Raiders in Berkeley??? Moooo....

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bluehenbear
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I think there is no way in hell the city of Berkeley let this happen, but according to this deadspin article it's being thought about by somebody...

https://deadspin.com/no-one-knows-where-the-raiders-are-going-to-play-next-s-1831076278
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bluehenbear said:

I think there is no way in hell the city of Berkeley let this happen, but according to this deadspin article it's being thought about by somebody...

https://deadspin.com/no-one-knows-where-the-raiders-are-going-to-play-next-s-1831076278
I thought the deal with the Hill people precluded pro games from being played at Memorial.
UrsaMajor
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Kezar is perfect; intimate and good public transportation. Only seats 5000, but who needs more?
KenBurnski
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They should play a season in one of those mega slammer Texas HS stadiums.
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Money talks. They could payoff everybody and still mke money. NFL is big business and we could make a dent in stadium debt. Make it happen.
Another Bear
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The other rumor being tossed around is the Raiders playing in San Diego in the old Murph. That's a weird one given the old Raiders Chargers rivalry.

BTW, did SD approve/fund a new FB stadium for SDSU?
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Forget the Hill people and make it happen.
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Another Bear said:

The other rumor being tossed around is the Raiders playing in San Diego in the old Murph. That's a weird one given the old Raiders Chargers rivalry.

BTW, did SD approve/fund a new FB stadium for SDSU?


SD voters approved the first steps, but it's unclear to me how much negotiation is still needed. SDSU says they will self fund the project - but I bet the details are key to determine what the true cost to the city ends up being. Details like true market value for the land and transit/traffic mitigation.

Sounds like they are shooting for a 2020 start, so 2019 would be open for the raiders.

I don't see how the raiders play in CMS - the agreement was pretty specific about high capacity events.
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KTVU was reporting Mackay in Reno, too.

I think they are just throwing out words they know at this point in the process.
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I'd go to a Raider game at Memorial.
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71Bear said:

bluehenbear said:

I think there is no way in hell the city of Berkeley let this happen, but according to this deadspin article it's being thought about by somebody...

https://deadspin.com/no-one-knows-where-the-raiders-are-going-to-play-next-s-1831076278
I thought the deal with the Hill people precluded pro games from being played at Memorial.
In addition to limiting the number of non-Cal football events that can take place in Memorial, the settlement agreement explicitly states that under no circumstances can any NFL game take place there. Ever. Couldn't be clearer. You'd need to amend the settlement and given the somewhat amorphous nature of the group on the other side, that would be far easier said than done.

The settlement with the Hill People is idiotic on just about every level, but this particular stipulation is pretty understandable. I mean can you imagine the Raiders final season (much less final game) in the Bay Area taking place in our little "parking challenged" city? Add to that that it's Raider Nation? In Berkeley? In force? Wow. Boggles the mind.
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Levis Stadium

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2018/12/13/santa-clara-officials-preparing-in-case-raiders-eye-levis-stadium/amp/

Maybe some of those methhead Raider fans will fall over those low guard rails on the upper decks.
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71Bear said:

...I thought the deal with the Hill people precluded pro games from being played at Memorial.


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Raiders used to play their pre-season games at Memorial. I watched them play the Lions on early to mid-70s
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If we just managed to get out of this agreement we could pay off the stadium debt easily and let the Raiders play in Memorial full time.
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I'm with the Hill people! Screw the traitors!
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calpoly said:

I'm with the Hill people! Screw the traitors!


The sooner that diseased organization vacates the area, the better.
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Sebastabear said:

71Bear said:

bluehenbear said:

I think there is no way in hell the city of Berkeley let this happen, but according to this deadspin article it's being thought about by somebody...

https://deadspin.com/no-one-knows-where-the-raiders-are-going-to-play-next-s-1831076278
I thought the deal with the Hill people precluded pro games from being played at Memorial.
In addition to limiting the number of non-Cal football events that can take place in Memorial, the settlement agreement explicitly states that under no circumstances can any NFL game take place there. Ever. Couldn't be clearer. You'd need to amend the settlement and given the somewhat amorphous nature of the group on the other side, that would be far easier said than done.

The settlement with the Hill People is idiotic on just about every level, but this particular stipulation is pretty understandable. I mean can you imagine the Raiders final season (much less final game) in the Bay Area taking place in our little "parking challenged" city? Add to that that it's Raider Nation? In Berkeley? In force? Wow. Boggles the mind.
Barbour screws Cal again....
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bluehenbear said:

I think there is no way in hell the city of Berkeley let this happen, but according to this deadspin article it's being thought about by somebody...

https://deadspin.com/no-one-knows-where-the-raiders-are-going-to-play-next-s-1831076278
Couldn't they just play at the local state penitentiary and cut out the middleman? Bring the game to the fans.
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oskirules said:

Forget the Hill people and make it happen.
Hey, leave my people alone.
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bearister said:

71Bear said:

...I thought the deal with the Hill people precluded pro games from being played at Memorial.



...squeal like a pig, li'l Mark...
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philbert said:

Sebastabear said:

71Bear said:

bluehenbear said:

I think there is no way in hell the city of Berkeley let this happen, but according to this deadspin article it's being thought about by somebody...

https://deadspin.com/no-one-knows-where-the-raiders-are-going-to-play-next-s-1831076278
I thought the deal with the Hill people precluded pro games from being played at Memorial.
In addition to limiting the number of non-Cal football events that can take place in Memorial, the settlement agreement explicitly states that under no circumstances can any NFL game take place there. Ever. Couldn't be clearer. You'd need to amend the settlement and given the somewhat amorphous nature of the group on the other side, that would be far easier said than done.

The settlement with the Hill People is idiotic on just about every level, but this particular stipulation is pretty understandable. I mean can you imagine the Raiders final season (much less final game) in the Bay Area taking place in our little "parking challenged" city? Add to that that it's Raider Nation? In Berkeley? In force? Wow. Boggles the mind.
Barbour screws Cal again....
Sandy Barbour did us no favors, but in fairness, the decision to accept the MOU with PHA was mostly Nathan Brostrom and Birgeneau; above Sandy's pay grade.

As for the Traiders, odds are overwhelming that they wind up staying in the Coliseum because of the lack of decent alternatives. They'll hate it and probably throw every home game just to spite Oakland fans, but there it is.
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Not going to happen. The two reasons Davis wont play in levi stadium is

1. Lack of tailgaiting
2. Horrible getting in and out of stadium
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
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UrsaMajor said:

philbert said:

Sebastabear said:

71Bear said:

bluehenbear said:

I think there is no way in hell the city of Berkeley let this happen, but according to this deadspin article it's being thought about by somebody...

https://deadspin.com/no-one-knows-where-the-raiders-are-going-to-play-next-s-1831076278
I thought the deal with the Hill people precluded pro games from being played at Memorial.
In addition to limiting the number of non-Cal football events that can take place in Memorial, the settlement agreement explicitly states that under no circumstances can any NFL game take place there. Ever. Couldn't be clearer. You'd need to amend the settlement and given the somewhat amorphous nature of the group on the other side, that would be far easier said than done.

The settlement with the Hill People is idiotic on just about every level, but this particular stipulation is pretty understandable. I mean can you imagine the Raiders final season (much less final game) in the Bay Area taking place in our little "parking challenged" city? Add to that that it's Raider Nation? In Berkeley? In force? Wow. Boggles the mind.
Barbour screws Cal again....
Sandy Barbour did us no favors, but in fairness, the decision to accept the MOU with PHA was mostly Nathan Brostrom and Birgeneau; above Sandy's pay grade.

As for the Traiders, odds are overwhelming that they wind up staying in the Coliseum because of the lack of decent alternatives. They'll hate it and probably throw every home game just to spite Oakland fans, but there it is.
The thing is, the governing body of the Colusium is suing the Raiders. Sure some of it's butthurt but some of it seems legit, like the Raiders still owning $80m. I don't think there will be any deals to stay until LV is ready unless the Raiders decide to pay the debt. My guess is they're trying to skip out on the bill.
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After the way the raiders treated Oakland, I'd laugh my butt off if they couldn't find somewhere to play. But they'll end up at the Coliseum.
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TomBear said:

After the way the radiers treated Oakland, I'd laugh my butt off if they couldn't find somewhere to play. But they'll end up at the Coliseum.


Joe Lacob f@cked Oakland over the cost of the Championship Parade and tried to skip on a $40 million obligation to Oakland on the way out of town but lost on that issue in an arbitration (not sure if it was binding). Despite his charity work I consider him an avarious POS that is a slick bidness man.
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bearister said:

TomBear said:

After the way the radiers treated Oakland, I'd laugh my butt off if they couldn't find somewhere to play. But they'll end up at the Coliseum.


Joe Lacob f@cked Oakland over the cost of the Championship Parade and tried to skip on a $40 million obligation to Oakland on the way out of town but lost on that issue in an arbitration (not sure if it was binding). Despite his charity work I consider him an avarious POS that is a slick bidness man.


Not as slick as he thought since Oakland won vs Lacob and now is getting out of the arena deal without (much) debt. They are getting hosed Mt Davis which ironically is now tarped.

Really hope the A's stay... and I have to say the Howard Terminal plan looks terrible, but they could and should start something at the colesium site. And soon enough to kick the raiders to a Podunk (non CMS) college stadium in 2019. I know that (A's break ground) won't happen soon with the EIR process.
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If, just if, the Raiders end up playing at Memorial, I hope we at least get a Videotron out of the deal.
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Point that giant video-tron towards the hills with jahvid best, marshawn, and desean Jackson highlights reels playing from midnight to 6 am.
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CALiforniALUM said:

If, just if, the Raiders end up playing at Memorial, I hope we at least get a Videotron out of the deal.


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Fresno RAIDERS
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Another Bear said:



Fresno RAIDERS


Bulldog Stadium holds 41,000. Too large.
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Another Bear said:

UrsaMajor said:

philbert said:

Sebastabear said:

71Bear said:

bluehenbear said:

I think there is no way in hell the city of Berkeley let this happen, but according to this deadspin article it's being thought about by somebody...

https://deadspin.com/no-one-knows-where-the-raiders-are-going-to-play-next-s-1831076278
I thought the deal with the Hill people precluded pro games from being played at Memorial.
In addition to limiting the number of non-Cal football events that can take place in Memorial, the settlement agreement explicitly states that under no circumstances can any NFL game take place there. Ever. Couldn't be clearer. You'd need to amend the settlement and given the somewhat amorphous nature of the group on the other side, that would be far easier said than done.

The settlement with the Hill People is idiotic on just about every level, but this particular stipulation is pretty understandable. I mean can you imagine the Raiders final season (much less final game) in the Bay Area taking place in our little "parking challenged" city? Add to that that it's Raider Nation? In Berkeley? In force? Wow. Boggles the mind.
Barbour screws Cal again....
Sandy Barbour did us no favors, but in fairness, the decision to accept the MOU with PHA was mostly Nathan Brostrom and Birgeneau; above Sandy's pay grade.

As for the Traiders, odds are overwhelming that they wind up staying in the Coliseum because of the lack of decent alternatives. They'll hate it and probably throw every home game just to spite Oakland fans, but there it is.
The thing is, the governing body of the Colusium is suing the Raiders. Sure some of it's butthurt but some of it seems legit, like the Raiders still owning $80m. I don't think there will be any deals to stay until LV is ready unless the Raiders decide to pay the debt. My guess is they're trying to skip out on the bill.
I believe, unless I'm mistaken, that it's the city of Oakland, not the Joint Powers Commission that's suing, although I'm not certain (maybe both are plaintiffs). Although the legal theory isn't totally strong, the city is in a good position, because unless the suit is dismissed on summary judgment, the discovery process would be very embarrassing to the league and owners, and they might decide to toss in 50-60 million just in hush money. If that happens soon enough, the Raiders could conceivably stay at the Coliseum one more year. If not, maybe they go to Modesto High School.
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bearister said:

Another Bear said:



Fresno RAIDERS
Bulldog Stadium holds 41,000. Too large.
Avaya Stadium in San Jose is just about the right size for the Raiders.

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Cal had to play all over place when we renovating Memorial because weak Raiders no let us use Coliseum.

Now they need stadium . . . Cal too STRONG for that.
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