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hanky1 said:

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Fresno St would give everyone in the PAC problems.

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The type of problems that would make them tied with a mediocre Pac 12 team on a neutral field at half time?

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They jut beat a 7-5 PAC-12 team by 11 points. Would Cal even score 11 points versus Arizona State?

We need a proven coach like that...

Honestly though, does he leave Fresno, or is this his legacy work?

hanky1 said:

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They jut beat a 7-5 PAC-12 team by 11 points. Would Cal even score 11 points versus Arizona State?

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Plus Fresno beat UCLA 38-14 this year. Cal, well...

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JT was tearing up in the post game. I don't blame him so was I. Record 12 wins and beat a classy guy in Herm. It was poetic. I grew up in Fresno. I followed JT when he was a player. I am so happy for him. Full circle moment. You are looking at a self made stud right there. Downey CA raised by a single mom. A nothing.

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His older brother deserves a shout out as well.......

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Congrats to Jeff Tedford on a 12-win season.

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Amen! The resurrection of Jeff Tedford is complete and well-deserved. It's refreshing to see a team display a good offense AND a good defense! Hope we can get to that point next season.

Wut? Fresno State scored the last 14 points of the game.

71Bear said:

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upsetof86 said:

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JT was tearing up in the post game. I don't blame him so was I. Record 12 wins and beat a classy guy in Herm. It was poetic. I grew up in Fresno. I followed JT when he was a player. I am so happy for him. Full circle moment. You are looking at a self made stud right there. Downey CA raised by a single mom. A nothing.

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His older brother deserves a shout out as well.......

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Hell yes to Dennis

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oski003 said:

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hanky1 said:

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Fresno St would give everyone in the PAC problems.

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The type of problems that would make them tied with a mediocre Pac 12 team on a neutral field at half time?

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They jut beat a 7-5 PAC-12 team by 11 points. Would Cal even score 11 points versus Arizona State?

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Yes, Cal would score 11+ against ASU. I didn't realize beating ASU minus their best player and a few key defenders was the gold standard for being competitive in the Pac 12. For the record, I took FSU minus 5 points and won.

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Great game, great atmosphere, Fresno fans love their dogs! Happy for Teddy and the Fresno community! Like to see the bears get one more win and that will be the capper for a good football season if you root for Cal alumni and ex coaches. Go bears!

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I don't root for ex Cal coaches. I root for current Cal coaches and good guys. JT qualifies as a good guy.

71Bear said:

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DLSbear said:

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Great game, great atmosphere, Fresno fans love their dogs! Happy for Teddy and the Fresno community! Like to see the bears get one more win and that will be the capper for a good football season if you root for Cal alumni and ex coaches. Go bears!

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I don't root for ex Cal coaches. I root for current Cal coaches and good guys. JT qualifies as a good guy.

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Tedford gave many Cal fans their best memories of Cal football. Those early years were great times. Would it kill you to root for a guy who once provided you w joy following Cal football?

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71Bear said:

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DLSbear said:

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Great game, great atmosphere, Fresno fans love their dogs! Happy for Teddy and the Fresno community! Like to see the bears get one more win and that will be the capper for a good football season if you root for Cal alumni and ex coaches. Go bears!

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I don't root for ex Cal coaches. I root for current Cal coaches and good guys. JT qualifies as a good guy.

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Tedford gave many Cal fans their best memories of Cal football. Those early years were great times. Would it kill you to root for a guy who once provided you w joy following Cal football?

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????

71Bear said:

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hanky1 said:

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71Bear said:

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DLSbear said:

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Great game, great atmosphere, Fresno fans love their dogs! Happy for Teddy and the Fresno community! Like to see the bears get one more win and that will be the capper for a good football season if you root for Cal alumni and ex coaches. Go bears!

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I don't root for ex Cal coaches. I root for current Cal coaches and good guys. JT qualifies as a good guy.

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Tedford gave many Cal fans their best memories of Cal football. Those early years were great times. Would it kill you to root for a guy who once provided you w joy following Cal football?

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hanky and TheFiatLux have the same trouble reading your posts

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Actually, Tedford had everything to do with his own demise at Cal. He put excessive pressure on himself and gave an immature coach too much authority over recruiting. In turn, this led to recruiting guys who had no business at Cal. Things completely spiraled out of control from there. He later acknowledged the beginning of the end was when he went away from signing players who were a good fit at Cal.

In essence, he is a good guy who lost his way. I'm happy that he has found a place where he can thrive...

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He did? when?

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hanky1 said:

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Great game, great atmosphere, Fresno fans love their dogs! Happy for Teddy and the Fresno community! Like to see the bears get one more win and that will be the capper for a good football season if you root for Cal alumni and ex coaches. Go bears!

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I don't root for ex Cal coaches. I root for current Cal coaches and good guys. JT qualifies as a good guy.

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Tedford gave many Cal fans their best memories of Cal football. Those early years were great times. Would it kill you to root for a guy who once provided you w joy following Cal football?

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It's why I root for Dartmouth's Buddy Teevaans.

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Me too.

Honestly I'm convinced that Tedford's failings at Cal had nothing to do with him and everything to do with the fact that the University is filled with a bunch of losers. Not to mention the fan base. Many losers. Tedford's success at Fresno st validates my opinion.

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Pretty much.

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Great game, great atmosphere, Fresno fans love their dogs! Happy for Teddy and the Fresno community! Like to see the bears get one more win and that will be the capper for a good football season if you root for Cal alumni and ex coaches. Go bears!

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I don't root for ex Cal coaches. I root for current Cal coaches and good guys. JT qualifies as a good guy.

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Tedford gave many Cal fans their best memories of Cal football. Those early years were great times. Would it kill you to root for a guy who once provided you w joy following Cal football?

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hanky and TheFiatLux have the same trouble reading your posts

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Yeah, I noticed that, too.....

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71Bear said:

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Actually, Tedford had everything to do with his own demise at Cal. He put excessive pressure on himself and gave an immature coach too much authority over recruiting. In turn, this led to recruiting guys who had no business at Cal. Things completely spiraled out of control from there. He later acknowledged the beginning of the end was when he went away from signing players who were a good fit at Cal.

In essence, he is a good guy who lost his way. I'm happy that he has found a place where he can thrive...

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He did? when?

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Quite some time after he left he was interviewed about his tenure at Cal. He talked about what he would have done differently, etc. etc. etc.

Sebastabear said:

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Happy for JT. Really loved (most of) what he did at Cal. But honestly my first, second and last concerns in these games is what is good for Cal. We recruit against ASU - just lost a QB we badly wanted to them, ASU losing is good for Cal so ASU losing is good. Period. Go Bulldogs.

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Yep. Why some Cal fans root for other teams in the conference in bowl games is an enduring mystery......

I was gonna start a new thread, but I'll just say this here:

Arizona State vs. Fresno State was a good matchup to kick off bowl season.

The problem is the next day featuring a good bowl matchup -- or at least 1 Power 5 team -- is 10 days from today, the day of the Cheez It bowl.

I wonder why they string bowl season along with more compelling matchups each day, rather than but a bunch of Group of Fivers followed by a lot of Power 5 bowls bunched together.

Like next Saturday, there are 4 bowls, none of them are compelling (unless you're into Houston vs. Army).

There are 2 NFL games that day, with one of them being interesting.

I'm not against having too many bowls. I just wish they were spread out more.

Tedford is a finalist for coach of the year. Congrats to him- his turnaround of Fresno State might even be more stunning than the one he led 15 years ago at Cal.

https://247sports.com/college/fresno-state/Article/Fresno-State-football-head-coach-Jeff-Tedford-named-as-a-finalist-for-coach-of-the-year-award-Eddie-Robinson-coach-of-the-year-125946523/Amp/

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Tedford is a finalist for coach of the year. Congrats to him- his turnaround of Fresno State might even be more stunning than the one he led 15 years ago at Cal.

https://247sports.com/college/fresno-state/Article/Fresno-State-football-head-coach-Jeff-Tedford-named-as-a-finalist-for-coach-of-the-year-award-Eddie-Robinson-coach-of-the-year-125946523/Amp/

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As he should be. Damn good HC. I watched that team the year before his arrival, including a game in-person, and they were remarkably bad. For sure on par with our Holmoe team he turned-around...

That loss at Minnesota really should have been a win too. Their other loss at Boise State was dang close also. BSU got 14 4th quarter points for the win.

I imagine JT will be on many HC'ing wishlist...

Cal89 said:

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johngalenhoward said:

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Tedford is a finalist for coach of the year. Congrats to him- his turnaround of Fresno State might even be more stunning than the one he led 15 years ago at Cal.

https://247sports.com/college/fresno-state/Article/Fresno-State-football-head-coach-Jeff-Tedford-named-as-a-finalist-for-coach-of-the-year-award-Eddie-Robinson-coach-of-the-year-125946523/Amp/

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As he should be. Damn good HC. I watched that team the year before his arrival, including a game in-person, and they were remarkably bad. For sure on par with our Holmoe team he turned-around...

That loss at Minnesota really should have been a win too. Their other loss at Boise State was dang close also. BSU got 14 4th quarter points for the win.

I imagine JT will be on many HC'ing wishlist...

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Too late for this year. All the open P5 jobs have been filled.

I watched the game and was really, really impressed with JT's play calling. It was clever and almost always well executed. This with visibly smaller and slower players than what ASU had on the field. Shows what good coaching can do. Honestly it made a lot of our play calling this year look even more awful by comparison.

The impression I got from the articles about Tedford in the years after he left Cal, is that he gradually became too much of an X's and O's guy, vs. Jacks and Joes. He'd stay up all night writing plays, accompanied only by critters of the dark like raccoons. Meanwhile on game day players would have trouble with basics like hiking the ball and handoffs. I remember one game in 2011 where on a 3rd-and goal from the 2 or something, he used Isi Sofele instead of CJ Anderson as the tailback. Of course the O-line can't do something basic like block, and Isi being a scat-back can't push his way through the defensive penetration into the backfield. When later asked why Isi instead of CJ, Tedford said it was because Isi knew the playbook better. My thought his -- okay, but if your O-line can't block why bother using the small guy because he knows the way a play is supposed to work?

To say that Tedford failed at Cal because the administration doesn't support football isn't enlightening, because the same held true when he succeeded at Cal. My guess as to what happened is Tedford's psychological inclination to drift too far into an X's-and-O's emphasis. The articles I read said his time off from coaching helped him realize that.

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I watched the game and was really, really impressed with JT's play calling. It was clever and almost always well executed. This with visibly smaller and slower players than what ASU had on the field. Shows what good coaching can do. Honestly it made a lot of our play calling this year look even more awful by comparison.

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A reminder of the Insight Bowl when Cal faced clearly superior Va Tech (their team speed was very impressive).

Now, if he could just shake his lapses into conservative play calling at the wrong time...

71Bear said:

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Cal89 said:

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Tedford is a finalist for coach of the year. Congrats to him- his turnaround of Fresno State might even be more stunning than the one he led 15 years ago at Cal.

https://247sports.com/college/fresno-state/Article/Fresno-State-football-head-coach-Jeff-Tedford-named-as-a-finalist-for-coach-of-the-year-award-Eddie-Robinson-coach-of-the-year-125946523/Amp/

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As he should be. Damn good HC. I watched that team the year before his arrival, including a game in-person, and they were remarkably bad. For sure on par with our Holmoe team he turned-around...

That loss at Minnesota really should have been a win too. Their other loss at Boise State was dang close also. BSU got 14 4th quarter points for the win.

I imagine JT will be on many HC'ing wishlist...

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Too late for this year. All the open P5 jobs have been filled.

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Oops. Well, that clearly states how far behind I am on such news these days! Did the Syracuse HC go anywhere? I guess I can check...

Cal89 said:

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71Bear said:

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Cal89 said:

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johngalenhoward said:

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Tedford is a finalist for coach of the year. Congrats to him- his turnaround of Fresno State might even be more stunning than the one he led 15 years ago at Cal.

https://247sports.com/college/fresno-state/Article/Fresno-State-football-head-coach-Jeff-Tedford-named-as-a-finalist-for-coach-of-the-year-award-Eddie-Robinson-coach-of-the-year-125946523/Amp/

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As he should be. Damn good HC. I watched that team the year before his arrival, including a game in-person, and they were remarkably bad. For sure on par with our Holmoe team he turned-around...

That loss at Minnesota really should have been a win too. Their other loss at Boise State was dang close also. BSU got 14 4th quarter points for the win.

I imagine JT will be on many HC'ing wishlist...

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Too late for this year. All the open P5 jobs have been filled.

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Oops. Well, that clearly states how far behind I am on such news these days! Did the Syracuse HC go anywhere? I guess I can check...

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There's still time for guys to get fired.