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i heard that many college dorms now offer maid service, and have talked to parents that think that's a great idea

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We had maid service at Bowles many years ago. A sheet change once a week, with the top sheet going to the bottom and a clean one on the top; and so on week after week.

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Gross. I think I'd pay extra for two clean sheets.

That's rich. I just published my overused words/phrases of the year list and sadly left out optics and transparency. Not sure how I did this(they may have already been on prior lists) but should have consulted this board beforehand obviously. Other winners were:
- narrative
-conversation
- diaspora
- "lean in"
- "reach out"
- Smollet

Was in commercial RE since 83 so yeah I've seen a lot in that biz.

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i heard that many college dorms now offer maid service, and have talked to parents that think that's a great idea

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We had maid service at Bowles many years ago. A sheet change once a week, with the top sheet going to the bottom and a clean one on the top; and so on week after week.

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Who was the maid, Ma Behnen?

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That's not "optics". It's a well worn term. No?

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You obviously have never seen Rick in action. The Berkeley crowd would love him. He repeatedly uses words/phrases like optics, empowerment, proof of concept, transparency, etc. when discussing a real estate project. Super good in front of groups like local city councils who just eat this up. If you have never met Roski, he is old school and likely want to throw-up when he hears any of this. If only to be a fly on the wall during Trustee meetings....

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The Berkeley and Albany crowd kicked him out of town when he tried to build another faux European mall at the race track.

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wifeisafurd said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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That's not "optics". It's a well worn term. No?

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You obviously have never seen Rick in action. The Berkeley crowd would love him. He repeatedly uses words/phrases like optics, empowerment, proof of concept, transparency, etc. when discussing a real estate project. Super good in front of groups like local city councils who just eat this up. If you have never met Roski, he is old school and likely want to throw-up when he hears any of this. If only to be a fly on the wall during Trustee meetings....

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The Berkeley and Albany crowd kicked him out of town when he tried to build another faux European mall at the race track.

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They didn't like some progressive guy who used all the right buzz words? He even has a Feng Shui expect help design his faux European stuff, and he drives a Prius (seriously), . Come on, this guy is the perfect fit for Berkeley. Who cares what is product looks like, he is so PC.

wifeisafurd said:

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socaliganbear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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That's not "optics". It's a well worn term. No?

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You obviously have never seen Rick in action. The Berkeley crowd would love him. He repeatedly uses words/phrases like optics, empowerment, proof of concept, transparency, etc. when discussing a real estate project. Super good in front of groups like local city councils who just eat this up. If you have never met Roski, he is old school and likely want to throw-up when he hears any of this. If only to be a fly on the wall during Trustee meetings....

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The Berkeley and Albany crowd kicked him out of town when he tried to build another faux European mall at the race track.

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They didn't like some progressive guy who used all the right buzz words? He even has a Feng Shui expect help design his faux European stuff, and he drives a Prius (seriously), . Come on, this guy is the perfect fit for Berkeley. Who cares what is product looks like, he is so PC.

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He's a great LA fit. Berkeley, not so much, apparently.

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wifeisafurd said:

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socaliganbear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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That's not "optics". It's a well worn term. No?

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You obviously have never seen Rick in action. The Berkeley crowd would love him. He repeatedly uses words/phrases like optics, empowerment, proof of concept, transparency, etc. when discussing a real estate project. Super good in front of groups like local city councils who just eat this up. If you have never met Roski, he is old school and likely want to throw-up when he hears any of this. If only to be a fly on the wall during Trustee meetings....

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The Berkeley and Albany crowd kicked him out of town when he tried to build another faux European mall at the race track.

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They didn't like some progressive guy who used all the right buzz words? He even has a Feng Shui expect help design his faux European stuff, and he drives a Prius (seriously), . Come on, this guy is the perfect fit for Berkeley. Who cares what is product looks like, he is so PC.

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He's a great LA fit. Berkeley, not so much, apparently.

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I love it. #mywifeisaberkeleyen

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6164bear said:

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i heard that many college dorms now offer maid service, and have talked to parents that think that's a great idea

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We had maid service at Bowles many years ago. A sheet change once a week, with the top sheet going to the bottom and a clean one on the top; and so on week after week.

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Gross. I think I'd pay extra for two clean sheets.

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TWO clean sheets??? Easy there Mr. 1%er!!!

wifeisafurd said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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TheThat's not "optics". It's a well worn term. No?

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You obviously have never seen Rick in action. The Berkeley crowd would love him. He repeatedly uses words/phrases like optics, empowerment, proof of concept, transparency, etc. when discussing a real estate project. Super good in front of groups like local city councils who just eat this up. If you have never met Roski, he is old school and likely want to throw-up when he hears any of this. If only to be a fly on the wall during Trustee meetings....

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The Berkeley and Albany crowd kicked him out of town when he tried to build another faux European mall at the race track.

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They didn't like some progressive guy who used all the right buzz words? He even has a Feng Shui expect help design his faux European stuff, and he drives a Prius (seriously), . Come on, this guy is the perfect fit for Berkeley. Who cares what is product looks like, he is so PC.

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The big faux stuff doesn't play well in Berkeley or the Bay Area. Also while a Prius is good, the hardline environmentalists I know don't even own cars..they walk, cycle or bum rides or take public transpo. This includes a few Cal faculty or lecturers. A few having been doing this for 20 years.

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wifeisafurd said:

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socaliganbear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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TheThat's not "optics". It's a well worn term. No?

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You obviously have never seen Rick in action. The Berkeley crowd would love him. He repeatedly uses words/phrases like optics, empowerment, proof of concept, transparency, etc. when discussing a real estate project. Super good in front of groups like local city councils who just eat this up. If you have never met Roski, he is old school and likely want to throw-up when he hears any of this. If only to be a fly on the wall during Trustee meetings....

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The Berkeley and Albany crowd kicked him out of town when he tried to build another faux European mall at the race track.

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They didn't like some progressive guy who used all the right buzz words? He even has a Feng Shui expect help design his faux European stuff, and he drives a Prius (seriously), . Come on, this guy is the perfect fit for Berkeley. Who cares what is product looks like, he is so PC.

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The big faux stuff doesn't play well in Berkeley or the Bay Area. Also while a Prius is good, the hardline environmentalists I know don't even own cars..they walk, cycle or bum rides or take public transpo. This includes a few Cal faculty or lecturers. A few having been doing this for 20 years.

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it's entirely possible to not own a car in Berkeley without making a political statement....but why blow the opportunity?

That is so wrong. Maybe a good thesis about bed bugs came of it? In any event not sure about the order of replacement... I would think bottom sheet to replace top sheet rotation makes more sense?

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Dude, you are kiling me. I was almost a virgin at Cal until I had extra tix to the 82 Big Game at the Farm. Dated the Kappa and married the roommate

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82 BG was at Strawberry Canyon, maybe virgin status is still up in the air, not like there's anything wrong with it.

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I knew I should have looked that sh** up. In any event, it was. Rainy **** show down there and I'm still married to the kappa roommate afrer 30 years and don't do the damn math. The kappa was smarter and a brunette but the blonde 1680 SAT with 32 c cups poli sci major was ok.

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Your story is getting dodgier by the minute: SAT in the late '70s was a 200-1600 point test.

AunBear89 said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Dude, you are kiling me. I was almost a virgin at Cal until I had extra tix to the 82 Big Game at the Farm. Dated the Kappa and married the roommate

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82 BG was at Strawberry Canyon, maybe virgin status is still up in the air, not like there's anything wrong with it.

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I knew I should have looked that sh** up. In any event, it was. Rainy **** show down there and I'm still married to the kappa roommate afrer 30 years and don't do the damn math. The kappa was smarter and a brunette but the blonde 1680 SAT with 32 c cups poli sci major was ok.

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Your story is getting dodgier by the minute: SAT in the late '70s was a 200-1600 point test.

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That is how I remember it. What is max score now?

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Dude, you are kiling me. I was almost a virgin at Cal until I had extra tix to the 82 Big Game at the Farm. Dated the Kappa and married the roommate

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82 big game was at Cal...you know, the Play and all - five laterals for the victory.

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wifeisafurd said:

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socaliganbear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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TheThat's not "optics". It's a well worn term. No?

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You obviously have never seen Rick in action. The Berkeley crowd would love him. He repeatedly uses words/phrases like optics, empowerment, proof of concept, transparency, etc. when discussing a real estate project. Super good in front of groups like local city councils who just eat this up. If you have never met Roski, he is old school and likely want to throw-up when he hears any of this. If only to be a fly on the wall during Trustee meetings....

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The Berkeley and Albany crowd kicked him out of town when he tried to build another faux European mall at the race track.

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They didn't like some progressive guy who used all the right buzz words? He even has a Feng Shui expect help design his faux European stuff, and he drives a Prius (seriously), . Come on, this guy is the perfect fit for Berkeley. Who cares what is product looks like, he is so PC.

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The big faux stuff doesn't play well in Berkeley or the Bay Area. Also while a Prius is good, the hardline environmentalists I know don't even own cars..they walk, cycle or bum rides or take public transpo. This includes a few Cal faculty or lecturers. A few having been doing this for 20 years.

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Oh pardon me. And they walked in the snow 10 miles to school.

wifeisafurd said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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socaliganbear said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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TheThat's not "optics". It's a well worn term. No?

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You obviously have never seen Rick in action. The Berkeley crowd would love him. He repeatedly uses words/phrases like optics, empowerment, proof of concept, transparency, etc. when discussing a real estate project. Super good in front of groups like local city councils who just eat this up. If you have never met Roski, he is old school and likely want to throw-up when he hears any of this. If only to be a fly on the wall during Trustee meetings....

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The Berkeley and Albany crowd kicked him out of town when he tried to build another faux European mall at the race track.

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They didn't like some progressive guy who used all the right buzz words? He even has a Feng Shui expect help design his faux European stuff, and he drives a Prius (seriously), . Come on, this guy is the perfect fit for Berkeley. Who cares what is product looks like, he is so PC.

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The big faux stuff doesn't play well in Berkeley or the Bay Area. Also while a Prius is good, the hardline environmentalists I know don't even own cars..they walk, cycle or bum rides or take public transpo. This includes a few Cal faculty or lecturers. A few having been doing this for 20 years.

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Oh pardon me. And they walked in the snow 10 miles to school.

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Yah sure! Yah, 10 miles and snow...at Cal. Look up Carl Anthony, former prof at Cal in Environmental Design and Natrural Resources. Met him in 1990 on a state humanities project. He didn't drive then and I believe it was for some time already. Yup, there are KOOKS in Berkeley, walking in the snow, and a few who put their money where their mouths are.

It really does look like a cheap knock off of off the Belagio. Where are the guys in the faux Gondolas?

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cal83dls79 said:

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oskirules said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Dude, you are kiling me. I was almost a virgin at Cal until I had extra tix to the 82 Big Game at the Farm. Dated the Kappa and married the roommate

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82 BG was at Strawberry Canyon, maybe virgin status is still up in the air, not like there's anything wrong with it.

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I knew I should have looked that sh** up. In any event, it was. Rainy **** show down there and I'm still married to the kappa roommate afrer 30 years and don't do the damn math. The kappa was smarter and a brunette but the blonde 1680 SAT with 32 c cups poli sci major was ok.

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Your story is getting dodgier by the minute: SAT in the late '70s was a 200-1600 point test.

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That is how I remember it. What is max score now?

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ok, i exaggerated her sat score ( think I thought the top end was 1800) but not her other measurables or my virginity. I wish our USA media would have as well honed fact checking machine as exists on this site. I mean, I thought I was a cal sports nerd but I'm clearly out of my league.

socaltownie said:

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AunBear89 said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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oskirules said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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Dude, you are kiling me. I was almost a virgin at Cal until I had extra tix to the 82 Big Game at the Farm. Dated the Kappa and married the roommate

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82 BG was at Strawberry Canyon, maybe virgin status is still up in the air, not like there's anything wrong with it.

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I knew I should have looked that sh** up. In any event, it was. Rainy **** show down there and I'm still married to the kappa roommate afrer 30 years and don't do the damn math. The kappa was smarter and a brunette but the blonde 1680 SAT with 32 c cups poli sci major was ok.

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Your story is getting dodgier by the minute: SAT in the late '70s was a 200-1600 point test.

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That is how I remember it. What is max score now?

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In 2005 the SAT changed dramatically, with the old Verbal test being broken in to Reading and Writing. So now with three subjects (Math) the max score became 2400. Then, in 2016, the SAT changed again, making it more like the ACT in content and delivery, and returned to the 1600 point scale.

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It really does look like a cheap knock off of off the Belagio. Where are the guys in the faux Gondolas?

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We just visited the Bellagio - this is dead on.

Student Housing Telegraph style.

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It's like a Vegas hotelier opened up a college.

"Welcome to beautiful Venice!"

Actually, was Rick Caruso involves in this? Because it has all the fauxness of a Caruso project.

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It is my understanding that the surrounding community has
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Of course. But that's neither here nor there.

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Well, that is certainly Cal's philosophy with regard to its surrounding community.

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And what's Cal's philosophy on taking bribes to let in unqualified dunderheads into its school.

Seriously, you choose today to continue to your love affair with USC AND take shots at Cal? I see that USC humility has rubbed off on you.

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In the normal course of my business, I come into contact with a lot of SC students. I can confidently say that the ones I speak with are at least 120 degrees different from their counterparts in my day. They are smart, hardworking and liberal. And I find that's true without regards to race. And I even include a fair amount of Greeks in that description, too. Maybe I too have ingested some sort of SCKool-Aid. But this is my experience.

As for SC's new-old architecture: it is definitely a Disney-like interpretation of an old money, Eastern college campus. Every new building on campus has the faux ancient look. The design is now so ubiquitous, that it wears on the observer to the point of becoming boring and cliche.

That being said, University Village itself, as a venue and a service provider, is well-thought out. It includes Trader Joe's and Target. It contains lots of diverse eateries. The spaces are interesting and communal. It is safe, secure and defensible, without being overbearing or prison-like. I know others here have mentioned it to Chancellor Christ. It is well-worth studying as a modern model for student housing.

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It's like a Vegas hotelier opened up a college.

"Welcome to beautiful Venice!"

Actually, was Rick Caruso involves in this? Because it has all the fauxness of a Caruso project.

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It is my understanding that the surrounding community has
benefitted greatly from the employment opportunities.

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Of course. But that's neither here nor there.

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Well, that is certainly Cal's philosophy with regard to its surrounding community.

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And what's Cal's philosophy on taking bribes to let in unqualified dunderheads into its school.

Seriously, you choose today to continue to your love affair with USC AND take shots at Cal? I see that USC humility has rubbed off on you.

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In the normal course of my business, I come into contact with a lot of SC students. I can confidently say that the ones I speak with are at least 120 degrees different from their counterparts in my day. They are smart, hardworking and liberal. And I find that's true without regards to race. And I even include a fair amount of Greeks in that description, too. Maybe I too have ingested some sort of SCKool-Aid. But this is my experience.

As for SC's new-old architecture: it is definitely a Disney-like interpretation of an old money, Eastern college campus. Every new building on campus has the faux ancient look. The design is now so ubiquitous, that it wears on the observer to the point of becoming boring and cliche.

That being said, University Village itself, as a venue and a service provider, is well-thought out. It includes Trader Joe's and Target. It contains lots of diverse eateries. The spaces are interesting and communal. It is safe, secure and defensible, without being overbearing or prison-like. I know others here have mentioned it to Chancellor Christ. It is well-worth studying as a modern model for student housing.

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OaktownBear said:

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bearister said:

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socaliganbear said:

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bearister said:

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socaliganbear said:

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It's like a Vegas hotelier opened up a college.

"Welcome to beautiful Venice!"

Actually, was Rick Caruso involves in this? Because it has all the fauxness of a Caruso project.

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It is my understanding that the surrounding community has
benefitted greatly from the employment opportunities.

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Of course. But that's neither here nor there.

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Well, that is certainly Cal's philosophy with regard to its surrounding community.

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And what's Cal's philosophy on taking bribes to let in unqualified dunderheads into its school.

Seriously, you choose today to continue to your love affair with USC AND take shots at Cal? I see that USC humility has rubbed off on you.

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In the normal course of my business, I come into contact with a lot of SC students. I can confidently say that the ones I speak with are at least 120 degrees different from their counterparts in my day. They are smart, hardworking and liberal. And I find that's true without regards to race. And I even include a fair amount of Greeks in that description, too. Maybe I too have ingested some sort of SCKool-Aid. But this is my experience.

As for SC's new-old architecture: it is definitely a Disney-like interpretation of an old money, Eastern college campus. Every new building on campus has the faux ancient look. The design is now so ubiquitous, that it wears on the observer to the point of becoming boring and cliche.

That being said, University Village itself, as a venue and a service provider, is well-thought out. It includes Trader Joe's and Target. It contains lots of diverse eateries. The spaces are interesting and communal. It is safe, secure and defensible, without being overbearing or prison-like. I know others here have mentioned it to Chancellor Christ. It is well-worth studying as a modern model for student housing.

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And there's a Wahlbergers!

New proposal for a building across from Edwards Stadium at the Touchless Car Wash site.

https://www.berkeleyside.com/2019/03/22/berkeleys-changing-landscape-the-2019-housing-and-development-round-up

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New proposal for a building across from Edwards Stadium at the Touchless Car Wash site.

https://www.berkeleyside.com/2019/03/22/berkeleys-changing-landscape-the-2019-housing-and-development-round-up

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Oh man, that was the only place to buy food at 4 am.

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oskirules said:

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New proposal for a building across from Edwards Stadium at the Touchless Car Wash site.

https://www.berkeleyside.com/2019/03/22/berkeleys-changing-landscape-the-2019-housing-and-development-round-up

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Oh man, that was the only place to buy food at 4 am.

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When this is completed, you might be able to get food there.

Looking at USC Village, something gnawed at my brain. Besides it being brick in earthquake country, something bugged me. Then I realized it...U$C must really like UCLA's iconic Royce Hall's brick. Once again $C, not a lot of original ideas.

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Looking at USC Village, something gnawed at my brain. Besides it being brick in earthquake country, something bugged me. Then I realized it...U$C must really like UCLA's iconic Royce Hall's brick. Once again $C, not a lot of original ideas.

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I always thought UCLA was the copycat (without a shred of proof). But the red brick and sandstone at the Southern Branch of the University of California really bothered me. The dominant building material evokes its hated rival.

Interestingly SC's new look is very Protestant churchy. Of course the school began under the auspices and authority of the Methodist Episcopal Church. Perhaps the current motif functions to both harken to the school's roots and to distinguish it from the Romanesque design at the campus core of its crosstown rival.

Some architectural styles at USC mentioned here (BTW, I have never seen a campus I liked more than Cal):

https://archpaper.com/2014/01/trojan-style-usc-shifts-from-romanesque-to-gothic/

https://archpaper.com/2017/08/usc-village-gothic-oxford-hogwarts/#gallery-0-slide-0

Just mad I forgot to drop "Gothic" in the mix. Props to the writer for "Collegiate Gothic". Nice turn of phrase.

cal83dls79 said:

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That's rich. I just published my overused words/phrases of the year list and sadly left out optics and transparency. Not sure how I did this(they may have already been on prior lists) but should have consulted this board beforehand obviously. Other winners were:
- narrative
-conversation
- diaspora
- "lean in"
- "reach out"
- Smollet

Was in commercial RE since 83 so yeah I've seen a lot in that biz.

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Yup, good list. Also "organic" now is being used a lot in RE.

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Some architectural styles at USC mentioned here (BTW, I have never seen a campus I liked more than Cal):

https://archpaper.com/2014/01/trojan-style-usc-shifts-from-romanesque-to-gothic/

https://archpaper.com/2017/08/usc-village-gothic-oxford-hogwarts/#gallery-0-slide-0

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If you like old school, Willam and Mary is just over the top beautiful. Nothing faux when everything is from the 1700's.

I find UCLA kind of underwhelming. Sure, there's Royce Hall and that big staircase and the bear, but that's about it, right? Unless I'm missing something.

UC Berkeley has a lot more visually to offer (both ugly and stunning).

Southern Branch Fun fact: Both Royce Hall and Powell Library, opposite each other on the main quad, are respectively based on the anterior and posterior of the Abbey Church of Sant'Ambrogio in Milan, Italy This creates the unique situation where the front of a building faces its back.