Apparently the next college scandal

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wifeisafurd
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Per WSJ:

Amid an intense national furor over the fairness of college admissions, the Education Department is looking into a tactic that has been used in some suburbs, in which wealthy parents transfer legal guardianship of their college-bound children to relatives or friends so the teens can claim financial aid, say people familiar with the matter....

Wealthy parents say they followed the strategy laid out by a college consultant company called Destination College, based in Lincolnshire, Ill. The company says on its website it has saved families as much $40,000 a year per student. The website doesn't specify how...

The owner of the company, Lora Georgieva, didn't respond to requests for comment. Other people who said they are clients of the firm and spoke to the Journal said they were asked to sign a confidentiality agreement to not disclose her strategy of transferring guardianship.....

So far, several schools have been named: U of Chicago, Illinois, Michigan, etc. There is no evidence the schools knew, though there is some question if they should have known. Obviously, this means wealthy parents were basically stealing financial aid that could be used for lower income students that might not otherwise have the opportunity. In fact, this aid can often come from donor endowments or federal grants, so if I was an alum of these schools, or as a taxpayer, I'm not be a happy camper.

There is another factor at play here and the Varsity Blues scandal, in that college costs are so high they are inducing corrupt practices by both colleges and parents.

BearSD
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wifeisafurd said:

There is another factor at play here and the Varsity Blues scandal, in that college costs are so high they are inducing corrupt practices by both colleges and parents.
Ehhh. Blaming the high cost of tuition for what these parents are doing is like saying it's ok to steal a new car because they cost so much these days.
bluehenbear
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https://www.propublica.org/article/university-of-illinois-financial-aid-fafsa-parents-guardianship-children-students
wifeisafurd
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BearSD said:

wifeisafurd said:

There is another factor at play here and the Varsity Blues scandal, in that college costs are so high they are inducing corrupt practices by both colleges and parents.
Ehhh. Blaming the high cost of tuition for what these parents are doing is like saying it's ok to steal a new car because they cost so much these days.
Didn't say that, and in no way did I say it is okay. Just saying it induces conduct. Same thing happens when you raise taxes significanlty, more people cheat. Doesn't make it right.
okaydo
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bluehenbear said:

https://www.propublica.org/article/university-of-illinois-financial-aid-fafsa-parents-guardianship-children-students

To be clear: This was the original story. WSJ came after.
Oski87
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I mean, sure - this seems unethical. However I do not see that any of this is anything other than what all sorts of people do- follow the law for their best advantage. My parents paid nothing for me to go to Cal - it was two year before I became "independent" and could get more financial aid.

All sorts of kids declare independence from their parents for all sorts of reasons- some of them social reasons like abuse, and some of them for business reasons.

If they want to do something here change the law.
BearSD
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okaydo said:

bluehenbear said:

https://www.propublica.org/article/university-of-illinois-financial-aid-fafsa-parents-guardianship-children-students

To be clear: This was the original story. WSJ came after.
Wow, this is some next-level sleaze.
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ProPublica Illinois found more than 40 guardianship cases fitting this profile filed between January 2018 and June 2019 in the Chicago suburbs of Lake County alone. The parents involved in these cases include lawyers, a doctor and an assistant schools superintendent, as well as insurance and real estate agents. A number of the children are high-achieving scholars, athletes and musicians who attend or have been accepted to a range of universities, from large public institutions, including the University of Wisconsin, the University of Missouri and Indiana University, to smaller private colleges.

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Nearly all the cases identified by ProPublica Illinois were handled by one of two law firms: The Rogers Law Group in Deerfield, which handled most of them, and the Kabbe Law Group in Naperville. The only case filed by a different firm involved the family of Rick Rogers, of the Rogers Law Group.

The petitions filed by Rogers, whose firm specializes in real estate, are very similar, with language saying the guardianship would be in the minors' "best interest" and typically citing educational reasons.

Many, for example, say: "The Guardian can provide educational and financial support and opportunities to the minor that her parents could not otherwise provide."

Reached by phone, Rogers declined several times to comment about the families he represented, the process or why he sought a legal guardian for his son.
JimSox
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BearSD said:

wifeisafurd said:

There is another factor at play here and the Varsity Blues scandal, in that college costs are so high they are inducing corrupt practices by both colleges and parents.
Ehhh. Blaming the high cost of tuition for what these parents are doing is like saying it's ok to steal a new car because they cost so much these days.
It isn't?
wifeisafurd
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okaydo said:

bluehenbear said:

https://www.propublica.org/article/university-of-illinois-financial-aid-fafsa-parents-guardianship-children-students

To be clear: This was the original story. WSJ came after.
Thanks for posting the article.
Bobodeluxe
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I find it simply impossible to believe that any wealthy American would ever game the system to gain financially. That just doesn't happen.
Bear19
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Sky rocketing costs (for years) for colleges/universities have made them simply unaffordable to the vast majority of families with college bound kids.

Certainly you'll get a much better return on your career investment by taking that money, investing it conservatively, and attend community college & the lowest possible cost state funded schools.

The schools are pricing themselves beyond what anyone would consider to be reasonable. This sort of cheating was bound to happen; I'm surprised cheating hasn't become standard operating procedure for college families these days.
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