Home and home with Wyoming, LOL. This is the "new and improved scheduling".

Look at the dates on those games! Man I'm glad I'm not involved with scheduling. No one can know who's going to be strong and who's not looking ahead that far. But Wyoming is a good venue and Minnesota is on an upward swing and might be good if they can keep things going there.

The Wyoming series was announced quite some time ago. The Minnesota series is a good one. We went to Minneapolis for a Cal/MN game several years ago and had a good time (it helped having Best playing at his best that day).

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Home and home with Wyoming, LOL. This is the "new and improved scheduling".

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Wyoming is still smarting from our 1990 Copper Bowl victory over them

MSaviolives said:

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BearSD said:

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Home and home with Wyoming, LOL. This is the "new and improved scheduling".

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Wyoming is still smarting from our 1990 Copper Bowl victory over them

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With inflation I'll bet the final score looks way worse to them today than the 17-15 from 1990...

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The Wyoming series was announced quite some time ago. The Minnesota series is a good one. We went to Minneapolis for a Cal/MN game several years ago and had a good time (it helped having Best playing at his best that day).

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I also attended that game. I agree with 71 that this is a nice addition to the schedule and I hope I can manage a return visit to Minneapolis for a golf and football road trip.

Interesting.... we already had a home and home with Minnesota in the not too distant past - I wonder why we're scheduling them again when there are lots of other Universities in that area I'd love to play (Michigan, Wisconsin, etc).

I traveled to Minneapolis last time and thoroughly enjoyed the wonderful city and new stadium, but might sit this one out. Then again, it's so far in the future I might forget about my last trip there and be jazzed for a new one.

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Interesting.... we already had a home and home with Minnesota in the not too distant past - I wonder why we're scheduling them again when there are lots of other Universities in that area I'd love to play (Michigan, Wisconsin, etc).

I traveled to Minneapolis last time and thoroughly enjoyed the wonderful city and new stadium, but might sit this one out. Then again, it's so far in the future I might forget about my last trip there and be jazzed for a new one.

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You do understand that scheduling requires both parties to agree, right? I suspect that Cal would love to play Michigan and/or Wisconsin. However, for whatever reason, it is unlikely that Cal's love is being reciprocated at this time.

Some of the brainiacs on this site apparently didn't watch college football last year. Two good programs
and a notch or two above PORTLAND State or Davis.

cal83dls79 said:

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Some of the brainiacs on this site apparently didn't watch college football last year. Two good programs
and a notch or two above PORTLAND State or Davis.

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Do you think we wont schedule a D1AA team in 2028 and 2029?

I am not 100% sure, but I dont think these two are replacing a D1AA home game.


My only issue is that we are giving a midmajor a home and home for some reason. Maybe I am old, but we should not return to Wyoming, or it should be a minimum 2 for 1.

Good thing I dont do scheduling or Cal would probably end up with the Pac12 schedule and no other games.

Well put Lunch. I knew I would be called out, but I do like those teams, they are a good test.

Pretty sure you are not getting mountain west teams to drop home and home requirements. No reason for them to do so - it is too hard to find replacements. Cal does not want to play 12 power 5 schools and pro an alt doesn't want to play non division 1 teams if it can help it. Presbyterian wasn't and option.

IMO this is a good option and I am sure a bunch of folks would rather go there than Fresno. I would have rather played Hawaii.

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Interesting.... we already had a home and home with Minnesota in the not too distant past - I wonder why we're scheduling them again when there are lots of other Universities in that area I'd love to play (Michigan, Wisconsin, etc).

I traveled to Minneapolis last time and thoroughly enjoyed the wonderful city and new stadium, but might sit this one out. Then again, it's so far in the future I might forget about my last trip there and be jazzed for a new one.

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You do understand that scheduling requires both parties to agree, right? I suspect that Cal would love to play Michigan and/or Wisconsin. However, for whatever reason, it is unlikely that Cal's love is being reciprocated at this time.

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If this is the case, then I would understand why we're scheduling the same home-and-home series again. But I'm curious - why would Ohio State play a home-and-home with us, but Michigan won't?

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71Bear said:

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75bear said:

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Interesting.... we already had a home and home with Minnesota in the not too distant past - I wonder why we're scheduling them again when there are lots of other Universities in that area I'd love to play (Michigan, Wisconsin, etc).

I traveled to Minneapolis last time and thoroughly enjoyed the wonderful city and new stadium, but might sit this one out. Then again, it's so far in the future I might forget about my last trip there and be jazzed for a new one.

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You do understand that scheduling requires both parties to agree, right? I suspect that Cal would love to play Michigan and/or Wisconsin. However, for whatever reason, it is unlikely that Cal's love is being reciprocated at this time.

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If this is the case, then I would understand why we're scheduling the same home-and-home series again. But I'm curious - why would Ohio State play a home-and-home with us, but Michigan won't?

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You would need to ask the Michigan AD that question. I would guess that there is no upside for UM to play Cal.

It happened in the 1960's.

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75bear said:

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71Bear said:

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75bear said:

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Interesting.... we already had a home and home with Minnesota in the not too distant past - I wonder why we're scheduling them again when there are lots of other Universities in that area I'd love to play (Michigan, Wisconsin, etc).

I traveled to Minneapolis last time and thoroughly enjoyed the wonderful city and new stadium, but might sit this one out. Then again, it's so far in the future I might forget about my last trip there and be jazzed for a new one.

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You do understand that scheduling requires both parties to agree, right? I suspect that Cal would love to play Michigan and/or Wisconsin. However, for whatever reason, it is unlikely that Cal's love is being reciprocated at this time.

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If this is the case, then I would understand why we're scheduling the same home-and-home series again. But I'm curious - why would Ohio State play a home-and-home with us, but Michigan won't?

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You would need to ask the Michigan AD that question. I would guess that there is no upside for UM to play Cal.

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That seems to be reading a lot into it.

They also play a 5 game conference home schedule on the same even year rotation that Cal does. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. Looking at past schedules, they don't play 2 ooc p5 teams that often. And they played a yearly game vs ND until 2014, so that means not a lot of OOC slots.

I see after the ND series went on hiatus, they have bought home games with both Oregon St and Colorado in the past 6 years (same two teams have sold games to tOSU recently too), had a series with Utah in 2015/14, and will play a home and home with UW, so they do travel and play p12.

If the goal is one P5 per year, everyone is getting scheduled up pretty far out. I would say it's worth Cal playing two ooc p5's in a year to get a p5 A team home game in 2025. (Not that it was ever likely, but Michigan is playing at OU that year). I don't think we should play two p5 A-teams in a season... and TCU, Auburn, Florida are those types of games.

I'm sure they would play us at their house only in any year after 2025 if we offered the same deal as ND got.

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cal83dls79 said:

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Some of the brainiacs on this site apparently didn't watch college football last year. Two good programs
and a notch or two above PORTLAND State or Davis.

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Do you think we wont schedule a D1AA team in 2028 and 2029?

I am not 100% sure, but I dont think these two are replacing a D1AA home game.


My only issue is that we are giving a midmajor a home and home for some reason. Maybe I am old, but we should not return to Wyoming, or it should be a minimum 2 for 1.

Good thing I dont do scheduling or Cal would probably end up with the Pac12 schedule and no other games.

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It's been a while since MWC teams have signed up a 2 for 1, IIRC. I remember their commish saying they (as a conference) would not favor doing 2 for 1's, but rather demand home and homes or sell one off road games to raise revenue.

If you think the p12 conference distribution is bad at $33 million/yr, the MWC schools get something like $4 million.

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cal83dls79 said:

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Some of the brainiacs on this site apparently didn't watch college football last year. Two good programs
and a notch or two above PORTLAND State or Davis.

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My only issue is that we are giving a midmajor a home and home for some reason. Maybe I am old, but we should not return to Wyoming, or it should be a minimum 2 for 1.

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I don't disagree with the sentiment in most cases. However, Wyoming plays at least one game in California every year (San Diego, San Jose, Fresno) and they don't have a problem scheduling home and homes with other teams.

Power 5 teams that have made the trip to Laramie in the past 10 years include Oregon, Washington State, Missouri, Texas and Nebraska.

Football trivia:
Cal started playing football in 1882, Wyoming started in 1893.
In 127 years, of the original Pac8 teams, 5 (Washington, USC, UCLA, Stanford and Cal) have never played at Wyoming.
UCLA and Cal have played them in bowl games, but never during the regular season.
The elite snobs from Palo Alto have never played the Cowboys.

For your future scheduling considerations, here's a list of the 57 FBS schools Cal has never played.

Cincinnati
UCF
South Florida
East Carolina
Connecticut
Memphis
Tulsa
Louisville
Wake Forest
Florida State
North Carolina State
Virginia
Oklahoma State
Florida Atlantic
Marshall
Western Kentucky
NC-Charlotte
Middle Tennessee
Florida International
Old Dominion
Alabama-Birmingham
UT-San Antonio
UT-El Paso
Liberty
Massachusetts
Miami (OH)
Ohio
Kent State
Buffalo
Bowling Green
Akron
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Ball State
Northern Illinois
Toledo
Eastern Michigan
Boise State
Utah State
New Mexico
UNLV
Kentucky
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
LSU
Auburn
Mississippi State
Appalachian State
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Troy
Coastal Carolina
Louisiana
Arkansas State
UL Monroe
Texas State
South Alabama

Probably only about a dozen or so of the teams would be at all desirable. One or two are on our future schedule. Cal has never played a team from the MAC or Sun Belt. I was surprised that Cal hadn't played that many teams, but there have been a lot of traditionally lower level schools moving up to FBS in recent years.

I'd only want Virginia, Vandy, and LSU for a home and home out of those. (We are set up with Auburn).

If it wasn't in the last 20 years, a repeat series with many schools is fine. Lots of teams in that category.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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For your future scheduling considerations, here's a list of the 57 FBS schools Cal has never played.

Cincinnati
UCF
South Florida
East Carolina
Connecticut
Memphis
Tulsa
Louisville
Wake Forest
Florida State
North Carolina State
Virginia
Oklahoma State
Florida Atlantic
Marshall
Western Kentucky
NC-Charlotte
Middle Tennessee
Florida International
Old Dominion
Alabama-Birmingham
UT-San Antonio
UT-El Paso
Liberty
Massachusetts
Miami (OH)
Ohio
Kent State
Buffalo
Bowling Green
Akron
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Ball State
Northern Illinois
Toledo
Eastern Michigan
Boise State
Utah State
New Mexico
UNLV
Kentucky
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
LSU
Auburn
Mississippi State
Appalachian State
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Troy
Coastal Carolina
Louisiana
Arkansas State
UL Monroe
Texas State
South Alabama

Probably only about a dozen or so of the teams would be at all desirable. One or two are on our future schedule. Cal has never played a team from the MAC or Sun Belt. I was surprised that Cal hadn't played that many teams, but there have been a lot of traditionally lower level schools moving up to FBS in recent years.

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But Cal has played several schools that were previously a member of the Sun Belt - NM State, No. Texas and, of course, a former fellow member of the Pacific Coast Conference from 1922-58 - Idaho.

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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For your future scheduling considerations, here's a list of the 57 FBS schools Cal has never played.

Cincinnati
UCF
South Florida
East Carolina
Connecticut
Memphis
Tulsa
Louisville
Wake Forest
Florida State
North Carolina State
Virginia
Oklahoma State
Florida Atlantic
Marshall
Western Kentucky
NC-Charlotte
Middle Tennessee
Florida International
Old Dominion
Alabama-Birmingham
UT-San Antonio
UT-El Paso
Liberty
Massachusetts
Miami (OH)
Ohio
Kent State
Buffalo
Bowling Green
Akron
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Ball State
Northern Illinois
Toledo
Eastern Michigan
Boise State
Utah State
New Mexico
UNLV
Kentucky
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
LSU
Auburn
Mississippi State
Appalachian State
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Troy
Coastal Carolina
Louisiana
Arkansas State
UL Monroe
Texas State
South Alabama

Probably only about a dozen or so of the teams would be at all desirable. One or two are on our future schedule. Cal has never played a team from the MAC or Sun Belt. I was surprised that Cal hadn't played that many teams, but there have been a lot of traditionally lower level schools moving up to FBS in recent years.

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But Cal has played several schools that were previously a member of the Sun Belt - NM State, No. Texas and, of course, a former fellow member of the Pacific Coast Conference from 1922-58 - Idaho.

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That's undoubtedly true and there maybe others. For a list of FBS schools, I used the 2019 conference standings at ESPN which just reflects the current conference configurations. I wasn't trying to be scholarly with this. I was curious and just did a quick and dirty list.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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For your future scheduling considerations, here's a list of the 57 FBS schools Cal has never played.

Cincinnati
UCF
South Florida
East Carolina
Connecticut
Memphis
Tulsa
Louisville
Wake Forest
Florida State
North Carolina State
Virginia
Oklahoma State
Florida Atlantic
Marshall
Western Kentucky
NC-Charlotte
Middle Tennessee
Florida International
Old Dominion
Alabama-Birmingham
UT-San Antonio
UT-El Paso
Liberty
Massachusetts
Miami (OH)
Ohio
Kent State
Buffalo
Bowling Green
Akron
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Ball State
Northern Illinois
Toledo
Eastern Michigan
Boise State
Utah State
New Mexico
UNLV
Kentucky
South Carolina
Vanderbilt
LSU
Auburn
Mississippi State
Appalachian State
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Troy
Coastal Carolina
Louisiana
Arkansas State
UL Monroe
Texas State
South Alabama

Probably only about a dozen or so of the teams would be at all desirable. One or two are on our future schedule. Cal has never played a team from the MAC or Sun Belt. I was surprised that Cal hadn't played that many teams, but there have been a lot of traditionally lower level schools moving up to FBS in recent years.

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Using your list, here's a list of teams that have been playing football as long as Wyoming (1893 or earlier) that Cal has never played (no guarantee of complete accuracy) :

Akron (1891) - Didn't join FBS until 1987
Auburn (1892)
Cincinnati (1885)
Eastern Michigan (1891)
Kentucky (1881)
LSU (1893)
Miami (OH) (1888)
New Mexico (1892)
South Carolina (1892)
UMass (1879) Joined FBS in 2012
Utah State (1892)
Vanderbilt (1890)
Virginia (1888)
Wake Forest (1888)

Seems like a few on that list should be scheduling priorities.
Kentucky is the only team playing FBS football longer than Cal that the Bears haven't played.

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I'd only want Virginia, Candy, and LSU for a home and home out of those. (We are set up with Auburn).

If it wasn't in the last 20 years, a repeat series with many schools is fine. Lots of teams in that category.

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Agree on all three and would prefer a repeat series with many more over any of the others on the list except the SEC schools. Beating any SEC school plus experiencing game days at their stadiums would be terrific.

Virginia would be a good game to schedule.