Cal vs Usc 1975 just put up by Cal.

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oskidunker
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Cal wins with Joe Roth and Chuck Muncie.


They actually show the Cal Band performing at half time. No hyped up sports center talking about games we dont care about. I forgot how nic the broadcasts were then. If you were in the band you might see yourself as there are many close ups.
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I was there. I was a senior. I knew when my mouth a-getting dry I was plenty high
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So that's what it was like before Justin Wilcox and I were born. Wow,
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Is that Peggy Fleming at the beginning?
Marty
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What a great game. I was in junior high and it was probably the best and most satisfying Cal game I had experienced up to that point, and still one of the best I can recall. The SC fans who were there were VERY cranky as they made their way out of the stadium after the game, which was icing on the cake. Mike White and Chuck Muncie came out onto the balcony above the north end entrance after the game and spoke to a huge gathering of happy fans. A great afternoon in Strawberry Canyon.
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The unending fusillade of water balloons from our side to theirs during the game had to contribute to their crankiness, including a near-miss on coach McKay himself.
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Very memorable game. I was a freshman and attended all home games that year. I think student season passes were $10. Heck, quarterly tuition that year and the next was $212.50. Went up to $232.50 the two years after that. Best deal ever!

Not sure if true but was told that the Cal students were so loud the broadcasters had a hard time hearing each other. I remember walking back to the dorms afterwards. Everyone was so stoked. I called a friend who was a freshman at USC after the game. I think that's the last time I spoke with him.

I have written this before but I recall toward the end of the game that Muncie (who had a great game) fumbled and that Ricky Bell trotted onto the field after SC recovered to help him up. That was a tremendous show of sportsmanship and respect.

Just checked and at 2:40:40 you can see Bell run up to Muncie just as he was getting up and basically giving him some encouragement. From what I have heard, Ricky Bell was really a great guy and I recall being impressed by his gesture on that day. It was clear he was not trash talking but providing encouragement and respect to another great competitor.

Sadly, Bell died at the age of 29.
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What a game. What a game.

Go Bears!
BancroftBear93
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What a great team, but especially the offense. I might take Muncie over Lynch, I didn't realize his hands were so soft and the size of the dude. Roth was accurate as hell too.
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Pat Micco played in this game. He just passed away. I don't know any more.
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I was a senior in HS with plans to attend USC. I now watch replays of this game and have a completely different feeling to the one I had back then.
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I was there; I'm probably in one of those student section crowd shots. In my list of Top 10 All Time Games.

So weird that USC was terrible at passing that year.

Also weird to watch a broadcast without a constant down & distance and clock on the screen.
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Joe Starkey was doing the play by play then and now he's still doing it. Amazing.
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And boy oh boy were those commercials old.
Chuck was going in for another touchdown when he fumbled that ball and Cal still could've won by three scores had they chosen to do that. I wish they had.
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I was a senior and went to the game with a massive hangover (my hangovers have always been massive, which is why I'm a moderate drinker). The game was November 1, meaning the previous night was Halloween we had an awesome party at the Stebbins Hall co-op, but I was one sick Golden Bear walking up to the game the next day. I do remember mood in the student section was electric and they erupted when the Cal band entered. I got this huge adrenaline rush and instantly felt better. That game has to be in my top 3 ever. When the team wears those jerseys for the Joe Roth game, I always think about it.
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Wow! Thanks for posting - just finished watching. So much talent on the field! That's the first full Joe Roth and/or Chuck Muncie game I've ever seen - everything else has been just snippets of great plays.
What happened to Wes Walker? Why'd he disappear? Was he hurt?
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HearstMining said:

I was a senior and went to the game with a massive hangover (my hangovers have always been massive, which is why I'm a moderate drinker). The game was November 1, meaning the previous night was Halloween we had an awesome party at the Stebbins Hall co-op, but I was one sick Golden Bear walking up to the game the next day. I do remember mood in the student section was electric and they erupted when the Cal band entered. I got this huge adrenaline rush and instantly felt better. That game has to be in my top 3 ever. When the team wears those jerseys for the Joe Roth game, I always think about it.



Hopefully you went to Big Art's that evening and had a hair of the dog. I'm sure I did.
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BancroftBear93 said:

What a great team, but especially the offense. I might take Muncie over Lynch, I didn't realize his hands were so soft and the size of the dude. Roth was accurate as hell too.


Muncie was the runner-up For the Heisman Trophy that year. Archie Griffin won it for the second year in a row. Muncie deserved it.

You should have seen him in the Big Game. If I recall he scored two rushing touchdowns one receiving and threw a pass for a Td. A friend of mine who went to Stanford still can't get over how Muncie was basically a man among boys that day. He was actually that way many days. I'm a big Marshawn fan but I think Muncie was better. He had speed and power. He was deceptively quick. He was tall and had a long stride so you couldn't easily tell how fast he was moving.

He would have done more in the NFL but for his drug habit. Years later he turned his life around and became a great mentor and benefactor for youth.
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I wish Cal had that 75 Big game film. I was there.
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I was too. Fantastic game. Most fun I have ever had in Palo Alto, despite the giant screw up with the student tickets. My memory is that somebody forged hundreds of them and there were so many students in the rooting section that people were sitting in the aisles. I remember, because I was on crutches and getting around was a nightmare. The days before ADA...
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My dad was on the field that day. Tackled Vince Evans on the 4th and 1 at the goal line just before halftime. We have a photo of him sitting on top of Evans with his hands raised in the air. I looked at the photo every day and hoped I could be like him!!

Fast forward to 2006 and myself and Cam Toler are the only two players that had fathers and sons earn a PAC 8/10 CHAMPIONSHIP at Cal... unfortunately the 75' Team should have earned it out right, damn UCLA . And we should have beat usc in 04' but it is what it is.
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Dam John McCay for passing on every down inside the 20 when they had run all the way down the field. And Mc Cay could have gone for the tie which would have put us in the Rosebowl but he didnt.
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Definitely one of the best days of my life.

Took the GMAT that morning in Hearst Gym (aced it, btw), ran all the way up to the stadium and made it in time for kickoff, invited to dinner at the Carnelian Room in SF that night with a little hottie and her family, and closed the deal with her a little later on.

Ah, memories.
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palisadesbear said:

Definitely one of the best days of my life.

Took the GMAT that morning in Hearst Gym (aced it, btw), ran all the way up to the stadium and made it in time for kickoff, invited to dinner at the Carnelian Room in SF that night with a little hottie and her family, and closed the deal with her a little later on.

Ah, memories.
Great.
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My senior year, although I didn't realize that $C was number #4 in the country and undefeated at the time. That should have been our Rose Bowl team. After a disastrous game the previous week in LA, where we fumbled twice in our own territory and gifted Ucla 14 points (the difference in the game), all $C had to do was tie or beat Ucla that year for us to go to the Rose Bowl. $c was initially ahead and was in field goal range at the end of the game for the tie, by McKay played for the win and lost. That was also before sudden death and a game could end in a tie. In those days, we weren't even allowed to go to a back up bowl. Still waiting for our trip to Pasadena on January 1.
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We were allowed to go to another bowl but The Liberty Bowl picked usc, even though we beat them. This was the first year other bowls were allowed but they could pick whoever they wanted. I was on vacation in Boston and checked the papers daily to see if we got an offer. I am still pissed about this. Ridiculous. Usc didvwinnthe Liberty Bowl but who cares.

I still cant believe Vince Evans was such a bad passer in College but did have an nfl career . My father said John McKay did not want Cal to go to the Rosebowl so he would not kick the tying field goal. You cant imagine the tension as we were watching that ucla usc game.
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I just watched the entire game. I recommend that any Cal fan do so, especially younger ones. I learned a lot. Other than the 1982 Big Game, this is the only pre-1990 Cal football game I've watched in full.

Here are my observations and questions for you older Bears.

- This was a very good game, although removing it from the context of the conference title chase, I wouldn't call it great. USC was a flawed team and barely attempted the forward pass in this game -- it is surprising (by today's standards, at least) to hear John McKay be so transparent about his flawed team's lack of passing in the interview they showed. This game was a battle in the trenches. Wesley Walker was rather quiet. Muncie was a stud, but unfortunately, he had an absolutely inexcusable fumble at 2:40:18 at USC's 10-yard line with Cal driving and up 7 points with only about 5 minutes to go (sigh...some things never change). I'd say Steve Rivera was the player of the game -- dude was repeatedly clutch and clearly was playing through injuries.

- In the lead in, the announcers state that San Francisco is the world's "most cosmopolitan" city. Even after googling it, I'm not exactly sure what "most cosmopolitan" means or how you'd measure it, but SF sure the heck isn't #1 anymore. Kinda sad.

- I was surprised that other than during the halftime show and during one injury break in the action, I didn't hear the Cal band once. Of course, a big part of that is how the microphones are set up, as it is easy to hear the USC band and USC cheers throughout the game. But the way we tend to reminisce on this board and complain about piped-in music, I would have guessed that it would have been far easier to hear the band "back in the day." YES, I am going to criticize the athletic department 45 years after the fact -- why didn't (and why don't) the AD exert some pressure so that the television broadcast isn't a virtual advertisement for the visiting team? Can't we insist that the networks mic up our band?

- After Muncie's inexcusable fumble at 2:40:18, the USC band plays "All Right Now." **** them.

- There are lots of impressionable young bears slurping up Memorial Stadium water at 1:59:07. I pray the pH of the water was OK in 1975.

- 2:38:56 is the first time I've ever seen the old north scoreboard without the primitive replay screen (i.e., the one put in no later than 1990). Frankly, it is easier to find down/distance and score than it is on today's scoreboard, and as a traditionalist, I'd prefer to have this old scoreboard today!

- At 2:26:44: an El Camino with seats that SWIVEL!!?? Absolutely genius! Why didn't that catch on?

- At 20:45: First and only appearance of a gorilla in Memorial? I assume that's a leftover from Halloween the day before? And, strangely, no sightings of Oski throughout the entire game. Maybe the gorilla scared him off.

- Throughout the game, there is a surprising amount of debris on the field -- I assume, thrown from the stands. For example, check out 2:24:30, when there is crap all over the end zone, and something actually bounces at the feet of a ref. I know the stories of the frozen fruit, but still, this surprises me. Was that sort of thing simply more tolerated back in the day?

- The constant and awkwardly lingering camera shots of the hottest women cheerleaders and fans in the crowd are classic. Apparently, back in the day it was perfectly fine for the announcers to play dirty grandpa. At 8:25: "There are a lot of those honies here in the stands today." At 1:55:25: Announcer #1 "I don't know her name." Announcer #2 "You wish you did." LOL. Pause. Announcer #3 "I wish my son did" (relieving some of the awkwardness).

- I notice Chuck Muncie and Ricky Bell both wore #42...I assume that is in tribute to Jackie Robinson? Was it a very common thing back then to do that, even in sports other than baseball?

- Memorial does come across as a fun family atmosphere throughout the game, relative to how it is today. It is a refreshing throwback to see young kids actively involved in the game, including bringing fresh footballs out to the refs (see 1:00:10). That is the type of thing that creates a true family atmosphere...not bull**** like the phony "Beargrowl" where every kid wins a prize.

- Here's an interesting and eye opening article on Wesley Walker from 2016. He lives in Long Island. Seeing how beat up Chuck Muncie and Steve Rivera are in this game, it is important to read his experience and keep in mind how these guys are sacrificing their bodies to play football. Yes, it's voluntary, but I don't feel 100% OK with it. The greedy *******s of the NFL should be ashamed they don't do more to help ex players.
http://lipulse.com/2016/01/22/the-dark-side-of-life-after-the-nfl/

- While I tend to love helmet stickers at places like Ohio State, I'm sorry, I just don't like the look of ours in 1975. The bear head is a little cheesy looking and, while it could be a trick of the camera, the stickers seemed to really alter the color of the helmet on those players who had many of them.

- Can someone provide a short summary of the "recruiting violation(s)" that led to White leaving Cal? In hindsight, was Cal a little premature in firing a guy who actually had a winning record during his tenure? I read a summary of his tenure at the "other web site," so I understand that there are very mixed feelings about White. But, the article didn't provide any info on the recruiting allegations. Were they so blatant that he had to be fired?

- I'm going to end with a rant. In 1975, note the lack of ads throughout the stadium, and the nice natural grass. I've posted it repeatedly: it is a shame that Cal won't go back to natural grass. If the University is truly going to cut a bunch of sports programs in the near future, out the window goes their excuse that "there are too many teams that need to practice at Memorial" for Memorial to have natural grass. With football having a massive outsized financial importance these days, and with attendance not doing so well, Cal should take a step back and re-examine its approach to the game day experience. I would love it if the AD found a wealthy donor to cut a check equal to the advertising revenue Cal gets for in-game ads. Then, remove ALL advertising from games. Return the field to natural grass. And embrace our 100+ years of football history, in the same way that Notre Dame does. Go traditional. Hard core traditional. No more BART race bull****. No more Bear Growl. No more "cams." No more introducing the CEO of Bayer during breaks in the action. Even though the design chosen is a little odd, I love how each endzone in 1975 is painted in a traditional manner, and in the appropriate colors of each team -- that's what college sports is all about. Figure out a way to double the size of the Cal band -- yes, provide scholarships if necessary. Note at 1:19:00 the announcer says that USC "tripled the size of their band over a four-year period." How did they do that?! Double the size of the band, AND LET THEM PLAY!!! Let's become Notre Dame of the West Coast. C'mon someone in the athletic department -- show some vision.

Time for a Schlitz. Go Bears!!

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Issac Curtis, a receiver I think. Was paid money or his parents were. He was also a-track star and the Cal national championship in track was also removed. Our penalty was far stronger than most other schools would have received . We got no bowl games and no tv etc, something they would never do to anyone today.
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oskidunker said:

Issac Curtis, a receiver I think. Was paid money or his parents were. He was also a-track star and the Cal national championship in track was also removed. Our penalty was far stronger than most other schools would have received . We got no bowl games and no tv etc, something they would never do to anyone today.
grab from wikipedia, w/bonus space thrown in..
Quote:

The Isaac Curtis rule..

Because Isaac Curtis had world-class speed, there were not defensive backs who could keep up with him and all teams would double and sometimes even triple cover him. In 1973 in his first year, the Bengals won the Central Division and faced the eventual Super Bowl Champions, the Miami Dolphins.

Don Shula
's defensive backs did not have the speed to cover Curtis and Shula decided that he would have them push, bump, and hold him down the field. After that game, NFL defenses, including the Steelers, started doing the same thing to stop Curtis. Paul Brown wanted the rule changed, telling the NFL Competition Committee, "What good is it for us to have performers, if they aren't allowed to perform."

"The Isaac Curtis Rule" states that a defender is allowed to block a receiver within five yards of the line of scrimmage. After the initial yards, any contact will be considered holding, which is a five-yard penalty and an automatic first down.

"He changed the game," said former Bengals teammate and wide receiver Cris Collinsworth. "There's no question because no one could keep up with him. They put in the five-yard bump rules and all that crazy stuff that it all eventually became".

After football

Curtis is a sales executive for Winegardner and Hammons, Inc., a hotel management company in the Cincinnati suburb of Blue Ash. He has lived in the North Avondale section of Cincinnati for over 20 years.
much condensed bengal highlight reel '73 -> 84


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smh said:

oskidunker said:

Issac Curtis, a receiver I think. Was paid money or his parents were. He was also a-track star and the Cal national championship in track was also removed. Our penalty was far stronger than most other schools would have received . We got no bowl games and no tv etc, something they would never do to anyone today.
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The Isaac Curtis rule..
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Interesting Isaac Curtis info but an incorrect answer to the Mike White recruiting violations question on several counts:
  • Isaac Curtis was a Cal player and was the cause of recruiting violations, but that was all under Ray Willsey and Curtis transferred to San Diego St (and switched from RB to WR) before Mike White took the head-coaching position. I was in high school at the time but the story was that Cal arranged a special session for Curtis to take the SAT and the NCAA slammed them. Was there more to it than that? I don't know but maybe somebody else on BI does. If I recall, Cal played under some restrictions (No TV games, not sure what else) through 1973 or 1974.
  • Whatever recruiting violations or player eligibility shenanigans Mike White did commit at Cal are, as far as I know, largely unexplained. It would be great if somebody with real knowledge could specify the details. Ron Fimrite's excellent book on Cal football, "Golden Bears", doesn't reveal anything. Does anybody know the straight scoop here? Suffice to say that Athletic Director Dave Maggard fired White. Whether you liked White or not, Cal wouldn't share another Pac8/10 championship until 2006.

White ultimately became head coach in 1980 at U of Illinois which hadn't had successful football since the mid 1960s and he led them to the Rose Bowl a few years later. However, proving the old adage that where there's smoke, there's fire White eventually resigned due to . . . recruiting violations.

I really liked Mike White because he really made Cal football fun during the time I was a Cal student. Ray Willsey had some very good defenses, but it wasn't the same thing as watching a USC DBs bounce off of Muncie or Bartkowski throw a laser to Steve Rivera across the middle.
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Chapman_is_Gone said:

I just watched the entire game. I recommend that any Cal fan do so, especially younger ones. I learned a lot. Other than the 1982 Big Game, this is the only pre-1990 Cal football game I've watched in full.

Here are my observations and questions for you older Bears.

- This was a very good game, although removing it from the context of the conference title chase, I wouldn't call it great. USC was a flawed team and barely attempted the forward pass in this game -- it is surprising (by today's standards, at least) to hear John McKay be so transparent about his flawed team's lack of passing in the interview they showed. This game was a battle in the trenches. Wesley Walker was rather quiet. Muncie was a stud, but unfortunately, he had an absolutely inexcusable fumble at 2:40:18 at USC's 10-yard line with Cal driving and up 7 points with only about 5 minutes to go (sigh...some things never change). I'd say Steve Rivera was the player of the game -- dude was repeatedly clutch and clearly was playing through injuries.

- In the lead in, the announcers state that San Francisco is the world's "most cosmopolitan" city. Even after googling it, I'm not exactly sure what "most cosmopolitan" means or how you'd measure it, but SF sure the heck isn't #1 anymore. Kinda sad.

- I was surprised that other than during the halftime show and during one injury break in the action, I didn't hear the Cal band once. Of course, a big part of that is how the microphones are set up, as it is easy to hear the USC band and USC cheers throughout the game. But the way we tend to reminisce on this board and complain about piped-in music, I would have guessed that it would have been far easier to hear the band "back in the day." YES, I am going to criticize the athletic department 45 years after the fact -- why didn't (and why don't) the AD exert some pressure so that the television broadcast isn't a virtual advertisement for the visiting team? Can't we insist that the networks mic up our band?

- After Muncie's inexcusable fumble at 2:40:18, the USC band plays "All Right Now." **** them.

- There are lots of impressionable young bears slurping up Memorial Stadium water at 1:59:07. I pray the pH of the water was OK in 1975.

- 2:38:56 is the first time I've ever seen the old north scoreboard without the primitive replay screen (i.e., the one put in no later than 1990). Frankly, it is easier to find down/distance and score than it is on today's scoreboard, and as a traditionalist, I'd prefer to have this old scoreboard today!

- At 2:26:44: an El Camino with seats that SWIVEL!!?? Absolutely genius! Why didn't that catch on?

- At 20:45: First and only appearance of a gorilla in Memorial? I assume that's a leftover from Halloween the day before? And, strangely, no sightings of Oski throughout the entire game. Maybe the gorilla scared him off.

- Throughout the game, there is a surprising amount of debris on the field -- I assume, thrown from the stands. For example, check out 2:24:30, when there is crap all over the end zone, and something actually bounces at the feet of a ref. I know the stories of the frozen fruit, but still, this surprises me. Was that sort of thing simply more tolerated back in the day?

- The constant and awkwardly lingering camera shots of the hottest women cheerleaders and fans in the crowd are classic. Apparently, back in the day it was perfectly fine for the announcers to play dirty grandpa. At 8:25: "There are a lot of those honies here in the stands today." At 1:55:25: Announcer #1 "I don't know her name." Announcer #2 "You wish you did." LOL. Pause. Announcer #3 "I wish my son did" (relieving some of the awkwardness).

- I notice Chuck Muncie and Ricky Bell both wore #42...I assume that is in tribute to Jackie Robinson? Was it a very common thing back then to do that, even in sports other than baseball?

- Memorial does come across as a fun family atmosphere throughout the game, relative to how it is today. It is a refreshing throwback to see young kids actively involved in the game, including bringing fresh footballs out to the refs (see 1:00:10). That is the type of thing that creates a true family atmosphere...not bull**** like the phony "Beargrowl" where every kid wins a prize.

- Here's an interesting and eye opening article on Wesley Walker from 2016. He lives in Long Island. Seeing how beat up Chuck Muncie and Steve Rivera are in this game, it is important to read his experience and keep in mind how these guys are sacrificing their bodies to play football. Yes, it's voluntary, but I don't feel 100% OK with it. The greedy *******s of the NFL should be ashamed they don't do more to help ex players.
http://lipulse.com/2016/01/22/the-dark-side-of-life-after-the-nfl/

- While I tend to love helmet stickers at places like Ohio State, I'm sorry, I just don't like the look of ours in 1975. The bear head is a little cheesy looking and, while it could be a trick of the camera, the stickers seemed to really alter the color of the helmet on those players who had many of them.
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- Can someone provide a short summary of the "recruiting violation(s)" that led to White leaving Cal? In hindsight, was Cal a little prematurein firing a guy who actually had a winning record during his tenure? I read a summary of his tenure at the "other web site," so I understand that there are very mixed feelings about White. But, the article didn't provide any info on the recruiting allegations. Were they so blatant that he had to be fired?

- I'm going to end with a rant. In 1975, note the lack of ads throughout the stadium, and the nice natural grass. I've posted it repeatedly: it is a shame that Cal won't go back to natural grass. If the University is truly going to cut a bunch of sports programs in the near future, out the window goes their excuse that "there are too many teams that need to practice at Memorial" for Memorial to have natural grass. With football having a massive outsized financial importance these days, and with attendance not doing so well, Cal should take a step back and re-examine its approach to the game day experience. I would love it if the AD found a wealthy donor to cut a check equal to the advertising revenue Cal gets for in-game ads. Then, remove ALL advertising from games. Return the field to natural grass. And embrace our 100+ years of football history, in the same way that Notre Dame does. Go traditional. Hard core traditional. No more BART race bull****. No more Bear Growl. No more "cams." No more introducing the CEO of Bayer during breaks in the action. Even though the design chosen is a little odd, I love how each endzone in 1975 is painted in a traditional manner, and in the appropriate colors of each team -- that's what college sports is all about. Figure out a way to double the size of the Cal band -- yes, provide scholarships if necessary. Note at 1:19:00 the announcer says that USC "tripled the size of their band over a four-year period." How did they do that?! Double the size of the band, AND LET THEM PLAY!!! Let's become Notre Dame of the West Coast. C'mon someone in the athletic department -- show some vision.

Time for a Schlitz. Go Bears!!


I am assuming the gorilla mentioned above is Bob Tuck, a former cheerleader. At the 1972 game against USC down at the Coliseum, which I went to, he ran on the field during the game, dressed as a gorilla, up to the huddles. He also climbed the goal posts and sat up in the stands for a while. The cops were pretty laid back about the whole thing, letting him run around a bit before making a concerted effort to catch him. They eventually did but he was able to escape. I don't think they caught him again. Nowadays they probably would have shot first and asked questions later. Tuck was truly legendary; I once saw him come to a basketball game at Harmon with what appeared to be an entire case of beer taped to his body inside a coat. Some Bears also know him as the guy who climbed up the sound poles during games and led cheers. As for this game, I was already out of school and don't remember if I was buying season tickets then or just getting a student ticket from someone who wasn't going to use it. Either way, I was there.
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Chapman_is_Gone said:

I just watched the entire game. I recommend that any Cal fan do so, especially younger ones. I learned a lot. Other than the 1982 Big Game, this is the only pre-1990 Cal football game I've watched in full.

Here are my observations and questions for you older Bears.

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- After Muncie's inexcusable fumble at 2:40:18, the USC band plays "All Right Now." **** them.


They play it after Joe Roth's Q1 interception, too. This is one of the 3 rules of the Trojan Band:

After a turnover, play All Right Now
After a 1st down, play Fight On
After a good defensive play* play Tribute to Troy

*Defined as anything other than an opponent's TD

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oskidunker said:

We were allowed to go to another bowl but The Liberty Bowl picked usc, even though we beat them. This was the first year other bowls were allowed but they could pick whoever they wanted. I was on vacation in Boston and checked the papers daily to see if we got an offer. I am still pissed about this. Ridiculous. Usc didvwinnthe Liberty Bowl but who cares.
In those days there wasn't the coordinations between bowls and conferences, and a pecking order of who gets to choose. So it was a Wild West scramble by the bowls to get the most attractive teams. The Liberty Bowl picked USC with 2 or 3 games remaining in the season -- all of which USC lost -- and we got shut out, despite having the best offense in the nation and ending the season on a 4-game winning streak.
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JSC 76 said:

This is one of the 3 rules of the Trojan Band:
After a turnover, play All Right Now
After a 1st down, play Fight On
After a good defensive play* play Tribute to Troy
*Defined as anything other than an opponent's TD
Thanks JSC. We gathered SpiritOfTroy's longtime director enjoyed a "Dick Tracey" reputation, less the Tracey bit? Reinforced at a pac bb tourney many years ago when, still in the middle of their game, a bandsman steamed or was banished to limbo ->
a few rows behind the rest.

snipped from wikiwiki..
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On November 22, 2019, an announcement was made on the USC website that the following day would be his last appearance as band director at a home football game in his career. "Bartner will then return for the 2020 football season in a reduced role in order to ensure an orderly transition to the new director. Bartner will officially retire on Jan. 1, 2021
muting more than 300 handles, turnaround is fair play
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