Arizona State Game Thread

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Because of the late start, I've got a bit more time between my actual job and game time.

So let's get this game thread going a bit early.

Cal is 2-8 in conference play and ASU is 1-5. The league standings are a bit wonky because of the different amount of games played (as can be seen in Cal and ASU's conference records above). But most standings have Cal and ASU at the bottom of the Pac-12.

If Cal can pull off the win tonight, that'll move them from 11th, where they are now, to ninth, displacing the Washington schools, which are each 2-7. That should be motivation enough to start the desert trip with a win.

Some thoughts as we await tip-off:

How healthy is Bradley? As covered in our preview of the ASU/Arizona games, not fully healthy. Fox indicated he didn't think Matt would be back to full-health for the rest of the season. It clearly showed in his return against USC as Bradley scored 11 points in 24 minutes, going 5-of-14 from the field, including 1-of-6 from three-point range while committing four fouls.

Bradley has been the best this year at attacking downhill and drawing the defense and fouls. ASU fouls a lot (ranking No. 327 for opponent free-throw to field goal rate). If the outside shot isn't falling like it hasn't been this year for Bradley, is his ankle feeling good enough to attack and draw some fouls (he didn't attempt a free-throw against USC)?

Stopping Remy Martin and Alonzo Verge. Both seniors have been brutal to Cal over the years. Verge, who is leading the Sun Devils in three-point percentage and is the returning Pac-12 Sixth Man of the Year, didn't play when the teams met in Berkeley last December. But he'll suit up tonight. Meanwhile, Martin did what Martin always seems to do to the Bears and dropped 22 points, leading all scorers and out-dueling Cal's Bradley.

If the Bears want to stay in this and have a chance and pulling off the win, they'll need to keep these two in check.

Turnovers and threes. Two of the biggest equalizers in college hoops. Arizona State has been bad at guarding the three (opponents are shooting 36.3% from long-range against them), but good at turning teams over (turnover rate of 22.1%, No. 45 in the country).

Cal, however, has been worse at guarding the three, giving up 40.7% to opponents and 42.5% to Pac-12 foes. The Sun Devils are one of the worst three-point shooting teams in the league, but have guys like Verge and stretch-four freshman Marcus Bagley that are capable of going off.

The team that can control the ball and knock down some threes early will gain the upper-hand in this one.

Pace. ASU plays fast (like No. 15 in the nation for pace). Cal plays slow (like No. 314 in the nation for pace). It'll be interesting to see which team can enforce its will. When the teams met in Berkeley, the pace was 71 possessions. That was ASU's second-slowest game of the year (Oregon State played them to 64 possessions). And it was probably a bit too fast. If Cal can keep the pace in the 65 to 70 possession range, it'll be helpful. If the pace is edging towards above 70, Cal is letting itself get sucked too much into how ASU wants to play.

Go Bears!
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I heard a rumor that Curtain of Distraction participants have been tested and quarantined and will make an appearance tonight.


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bearister said:

I heard a rumor that Curtain of Distraction participants have been tested and quarantined and will make an appearance tonight.



Probably wont bother Brown.
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Starters:

Brown
Hyder
Bradley
Anticevich
Kelly
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Casey Jacobsen is actually painful for me to listen to because it brings back memories of what a whiny Furd he was on the court.
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Bears smoked to layups
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The rims are going to need a medic. They are taking a battering.
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Bit of a slow start for the Bears' offense.
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3 turnovers, 2 wide open lay ups missed. Ugly so far. Lucky we are only down 4
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2 blown layups, 3 open 3- pointers clanged

13 cal points not on the scoreboard
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Bear8995 said:

3 turnovers, 2 wide open lay ups missed. Ugly so far. Lucky we are only down 4
Agreed. Cal's gotta feel good they're not already down double-digits after that start.
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Phantom foul
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Bears playing bad
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NathanAllen said:

Bear8995 said:

3 turnovers, 2 wide open lay ups missed. Ugly so far. Lucky we are only down 4
Agreed. Cal's gotta feel good they're not already down double-digits after that start.
Well they are now. What a horrendous effort so far.
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Good timeout by Fox.
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MoragaBear said:

NathanAllen said:

Bear8995 said:

3 turnovers, 2 wide open lay ups missed. Ugly so far. Lucky we are only down 4
Agreed. Cal's gotta feel good they're not already down double-digits after that start.
Well they are now. What a horrendous effort so far.
I jinxed them. Ugh.
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NathanAllen said:

Bear8995 said:

3 turnovers, 2 wide open lay ups missed. Ugly so far. Lucky we are only down 4
Agreed. Cal's gotta feel good they're not already down double-digits after that start.


And now we are down 10. shooting less than 20% will do that to you. This team is so frustrating to watch sometimes.
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Whatever they are doing for warm ups, it has to change.
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Bears hanging in there. If you're looking for a positive, Bears already have seven offensive boards to zero for ASU. Of course, Cal has had a lot more opportunities to grab their own misses, but still.
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Agree

Rebounding is a priority in our game plan today

2K not looking to shoot

NathanAllen said:

Bears hanging in there. If you're looking for a positive, Bears already have seven offensive boards to zero for ASU. Of course, Cal has had a lot more opportunities to grab their own misses, but still.
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We need to get to Kelly more
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That's a rather sudden turnaround. Arizona State player immediately shooting a brick after getting an offensive board burst the dam open. Bobby must have thrown a clot.
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Nice play Matt!
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The three-point shot is the ultimate equalizer in college hoops. Bears have made three, ASU has made zero. Thanks to all of the offensive boards, Cal has taken seven more field goal attempts than ASU. That's playing a huge role here as well.
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Nice run! Take care of the ball and hit some shots and we can win. Nice to have a rebounding advantage. Betley is going to have to play limited minutes. They are abusing his defense.
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Bradley looks like he doubled up pumping iron while healing. He looks FRIGGING JACKED!
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Celestine adds some nice length on defense.
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Celestine is dropping dimes!!
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The Bears are really competitive tonight.

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What an amazing half. Cal looked like they weren't even awake at the start and they lead at half.
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Asu is disciplined defending the post, but no where else

Right now ASU is less than the sum of their individual players

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Bear8995 said:

Celestine is dropping dimes!!
3 assists in 6 minutes!
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Kelly might disagree
Go Bears!
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When is the last time we killed an opponent on the boards like this?
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Cal up one at halftime. The way this started, that's kind of a miracle.

Revisiting some of the keys laid out at the beginning of the tread:

Bradley's health. Seven points, six rebounds, and just one foul is good. It hasn't been efficient (10 field goal attempts and just seven points), but it's been enough and Bradley looks mobile enough.

Contain Martin and Verge. So far, so good. Both have six so far as ASU's offense really stalled after the first 10 minutes and Fox put a zone on them.

Turnovers and threes. Just six turnovers to ASU's five and three three-pointers to ASU's zero. Solid.

Pace. They're currently right at about 68 possession pace. That's right where Cal wants it. After the first portion of the half when Cal looked a bit frantic, they settled in a bit. The zone has helped slow things down as well.

All in all, a solid half and Cal is doing what it needs to do so far to steal a road win.
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