Offseason Noise

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HoopDreams
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BC Calfan said:

One time recruit Michael Flowers ends up a cougar. Kyle Smith consistently out-recruiting us.



maybe true that Smith is out recruiting us, but not sure Flowers got an offer from Cal as he went to Southern Alabama

none of the schools recruiting him as a transfer are high-academic schools either
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Bad news.
Go Bears!
calumnus
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HoopDreams said:

BC Calfan said:

One time recruit Michael Flowers ends up a cougar. Kyle Smith consistently out-recruiting us.



maybe true that Smith is out recruiting us, but not sure Flowers got an offer from Cal as he went to Southern Alabama

none of the schools recruiting him as a transfer are high-academic schools either


WSU and OSU pulling away from us.
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Sign this guy:

A 7'0" Unicorn Named CHET, Who Embarrassed Steph Curry At His Own Camp Was Just Named The No. 1 Hoops Recruit In The Country | Barstool Sports


https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/2555057/a-70-unicorn-named-chet-who-embarrassed-steph-curry-at-his-own-camp-was-just-named-the-no-1-hoops-recruit-in-the-country
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bearister said:

Sign this guy:

A 7'0" Unicorn Named CHET, Who Embarrassed Steph Curry At His Own Camp Was Just Named The No. 1 Hoops Recruit In The Country | Barstool Sports


https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/2555057/a-70-unicorn-named-chet-who-embarrassed-steph-curry-at-his-own-camp-was-just-named-the-no-1-hoops-recruit-in-the-country
watch the first clip

the smallest guy on the court takes the 2 shots against CHET

the other two bigs are too afraid to take the shot and get embarrassed so keeps passing it to the other guy

hilarious
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bearister said:

Sign this guy:

A 7'0" Unicorn Named CHET, Who Embarrassed Steph Curry At His Own Camp Was Just Named The No. 1 Hoops Recruit In The Country | Barstool Sports


https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/2555057/a-70-unicorn-named-chet-who-embarrassed-steph-curry-at-his-own-camp-was-just-named-the-no-1-hoops-recruit-in-the-country
He's a strong Gonzaga lean...
“My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” - Winston Churchill
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BigDaddy said:

bearister said:

Sign this guy:

A 7'0" Unicorn Named CHET, Who Embarrassed Steph Curry At His Own Camp Was Just Named The No. 1 Hoops Recruit In The Country | Barstool Sports


https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/2555057/a-70-unicorn-named-chet-who-embarrassed-steph-curry-at-his-own-camp-was-just-named-the-no-1-hoops-recruit-in-the-country
He's a strong Gonzaga lean...


He is a good example of a kid for whom Berkeley's progressive politics and history of social activism could be a big draw. That and our E-sports dominance.

I just wish I had his problem: needing to gain weight. That would be fun.
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Chet is a 7-0 GUARD?!? Wow...
calumnus
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Big C said:


Chet is a 7-0 GUARD?!? Wow...


Has some guard skills, good cross-over, great passer, nice shot, but also great dunker and rim protector. His nickname "Unicorn" is fitting.
BC Calfan
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One-time recruit Terren Frank leaving TCU.

Terren Frank Leaving TCU



joe amos yaks
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A cross-over left and right?
BigDaddy
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“My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” - Winston Churchill
Chunger89
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Jemarl Baker transfers to Fresno St. Don't really understand him leaving Arizona as he's stepping down to a lower level conference and it's not necessarily closer to home either.
HoopDreams
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Chunger89 said:

Jemarl Baker transfers to Fresno St. Don't really understand him leaving Arizona as he's stepping down to a lower level conference and it's not necessarily closer to home either.
yeah, I don't get it either

he's probably leaving AZ due because they probably won't be eligible for post-season ... but why Fresno State???

can't be grades

where is Baker from? (NorCal?)
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HoopDreams said:

Chunger89 said:

Jemarl Baker transfers to Fresno St. Don't really understand him leaving Arizona as he's stepping down to a lower level conference and it's not necessarily closer to home either.
yeah, I don't get it either

he's probably leaving AZ due because they probably won't be eligible for post-season ... but why Fresno State???

can't be grades

where is Baker from? (NorCal?)

He's from the LA area, near Riverside
BigDaddy
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Eric Musselman just used Arizona to get a contract extension from Arkansas. UofA coaching search is a mess...


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BigDaddy
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“My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” - Winston Churchill
BeachedBear
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BigDaddy said:


evidence that Jeff Goodman thinks he can count!!
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philbert
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does Cal get any salary relief or is that only in the event that he gets another...HC job. (**cough**)
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philbert said:

does Cal get any salary relief or is that only in the event that he gets another...HC job. (**cough**)


I can't imagine we get anything. We might have even made a lump-sum settlement.
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No postseason ban = slap on the wrist
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HoopDreams
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BigDaddy said:



No postseason ban = slap on the wrist
not even loss of schollies

BearSD
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HoopDreams said:

BigDaddy said:

No postseason ban = slap on the wrist
not even loss of schollies
Based on the violations cited in the report -- no money was paid to either recruits or current players; the assistant coach was taking a bribe to push players to sign with a certain agent -- a slap on the wrist was the right call. If it had been found that the coach funneled money from the agent to players or recruits, that would warrant harsher sanctions.
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HoopDreams said:

BigDaddy said:



No postseason ban = slap on the wrist
not even loss of schollies


There was a loss of scholarships - after the fact - for the 18-19 season. And USC probably said "hey, we are losing the Mobleys, so we arent going to the postseason in 2022 anyways".
The penalties were:
  • Two years of probation.
  • A $5,000 fine plus 1% of the men's basketball program budget.
  • A reduction of men's basketball scholarships by a total of two during the 2018-19 academic year (self-imposed by the university).
  • A reduction of men's basketball official visits to 20 during the 2018-19/2019-20 rolling two-year period (self-imposed by the university).
  • A reduction in the number of men's basketball recruiting person days by 20 during the 2018-19 academic year (self-imposed by the university).
  • A three-year show-cause order for the former associate head coach. During that period, any NCAA member school employing him must restrict him from any athletically related duties unless it shows cause why the restrictions should not apply.
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BearSD said:

HoopDreams said:

BigDaddy said:

No postseason ban = slap on the wrist
not even loss of schollies
Based on the violations cited in the report -- no money was paid to either recruits or current players; the assistant coach was taking a bribe to push players to sign with a certain agent -- a slap on the wrist was the right call. If it had been found that the coach funneled money from the agent to players or recruits, that would warrant harsher sanctions.


The coach should be on a ten year ban and thereafter an order to show cause
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OaktownBear said:

BearSD said:

HoopDreams said:

BigDaddy said:

No postseason ban = slap on the wrist
not even loss of schollies
Based on the violations cited in the report -- no money was paid to either recruits or current players; the assistant coach was taking a bribe to push players to sign with a certain agent -- a slap on the wrist was the right call. If it had been found that the coach funneled money from the agent to players or recruits, that would warrant harsher sanctions.


The coach should be on a ten year ban and thereafter an order to show cause
I want to see how all of this turns out. Reading the stuff from the wiretaps, there is a number of cases where multiple schools were bidding on the same player. One school would win the auction (Arizona) and two or three schools (USC) would lose. The winner will have the money issue, but the others will not - even though they were all performing the same behavior, but lost the bidding war.

I expect the winner will be punished differently than losers - but it is all very hypocritical IMHO. If the colleges, NCAA and others were at all serious about any of this, they would do what you describe.

But they won't - because they're not.
BearSD
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BeachedBear said:

OaktownBear said:

BearSD said:

HoopDreams said:

BigDaddy said:

No postseason ban = slap on the wrist
not even loss of schollies
Based on the violations cited in the report -- no money was paid to either recruits or current players; the assistant coach was taking a bribe to push players to sign with a certain agent -- a slap on the wrist was the right call. If it had been found that the coach funneled money from the agent to players or recruits, that would warrant harsher sanctions.


The coach should be on a ten year ban and thereafter an order to show cause
I want to see how all of this turns out. Reading the stuff from the wiretaps, there is a number of cases where multiple schools were bidding on the same player. One school would win the auction (Arizona) and two or three schools (USC) would lose. The winner will have the money issue, but the others will not - even though they were all performing the same behavior, but lost the bidding war.

I expect the winner will be punished differently than losers - but it is all very hypocritical IMHO. If the colleges, NCAA and others were at all serious about any of this, they would do what you describe.

But they won't - because they're not.
I think it's more because the NCAA investigation power is limited, and it's limited because the NCAA membership wants it that way.

Would it be interesting if they had the power to get *all* of the personal financial records, phone records, and email, of assistant coaches and basketball staff members at Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, Arizona, etc., so that they could identify which staff members are bagmen? Of course it would. Will the schools ever permit the NCAA to dig that deep? Of course they won't.
HoopDreams
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BeachedBear said:

OaktownBear said:

BearSD said:

HoopDreams said:

BigDaddy said:

No postseason ban = slap on the wrist
not even loss of schollies
Based on the violations cited in the report -- no money was paid to either recruits or current players; the assistant coach was taking a bribe to push players to sign with a certain agent -- a slap on the wrist was the right call. If it had been found that the coach funneled money from the agent to players or recruits, that would warrant harsher sanctions.


The coach should be on a ten year ban and thereafter an order to show cause
I want to see how all of this turns out. Reading the stuff from the wiretaps, there is a number of cases where multiple schools were bidding on the same player. One school would win the auction (Arizona) and two or three schools (USC) would lose. The winner will have the money issue, but the others will not - even though they were all performing the same behavior, but lost the bidding war.

I expect the winner will be punished differently than losers - but it is all very hypocritical IMHO. If the colleges, NCAA and others were at all serious about any of this, they would do what you describe.

But they won't - because they're not.
... and this was just one situation. these teams were/are doing a lot of it, and they are getting slyer about how they do it ... the amazing thing is even with the FBI involved, they are getting away with it

... if there was a way to clearly see everything that is going on in college recruiting for every team, I think it would be very ugly ... and teams like AZ and USC will be some of the worst
BigDaddy
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“My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” - Winston Churchill
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bearister said:

Sign this guy:

A 7'0" Unicorn Named CHET, Who Embarrassed Steph Curry At His Own Camp Was Just Named The No. 1 Hoops Recruit In The Country | Barstool Sports


https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/2555057/a-70-unicorn-named-chet-who-embarrassed-steph-curry-at-his-own-camp-was-just-named-the-no-1-hoops-recruit-in-the-country
“My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” - Winston Churchill
bearister
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Fresh in from The Rich Get Richer Dept.

Another, "the one that got away" story for the Bears.

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BC Calfan
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All quiet on the recruiting front. I have a feeling we will add at least one player this spring. Anyone on this list would be a huge get. Unfortunately, not getting my hopes up.

Best Available Basketball Transfers, 3.0: Impact players still available
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Does anyone think Fox would try to add Akinjo? Would probably need to add a transfer wing as well to even be competitive next season.

BC Calfan said:

All quiet on the recruiting front. I have a feeling we will add at least one player this spring. Anyone on this list would be a huge get. Unfortunately, not getting my hopes up.

Best Available Basketball Transfers, 3.0: Impact players still available
 
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