2022 Recruiting Thread

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sluggo
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News on the recruiting front is quiet, to say the least, other than the Mahaney commitment to St. Mary's. I decided to post everything I have gathered, which is almost nothing, but is not exactly nothing. Maybe others have more to add.

Prince Aligbe is a 6'6'' power wing from Minnehaha Academy in Minneapolis, the school of Jalen Suggs and Chet Holmgren. I read somewhere that he has known coach Francis for many years, and he has expressed interest in visiting Cal. But he probably has not visited yet because there is nothing on the internet about him visiting. I watched his video and like him a lot, even though he can't shoot. I hope he is the first to commit to make it safe for others.

Milos Uzan is a 6'4'' four star point guard from Las Vegas. He announced on twitter that Cal made his final 8. But there are higher ranked schools in that 8, like SC, Utah and ASU. Seems like he would be a tough get. I don't know of any connection to Cal. Maybe he likes harsh covid restrictions, that can be the Cal selling point.

I have seen offers to various randoms. I have not heard of any of those randoms being interested. Anyone know anything?
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Crickets on this front. We are going to be a team of walk-ons soon.

In fact, I hope Fox starts checking out pick-up basketball games at nearby parks to get some highly-touted walk-ons. I think we can dominate recruiting in this niche market for low-level talent.
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Hook Mitchell. Kinda old now, though.

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Until Fox infuses some recruiting lifeblood into our program, we may be headed to BDW status for the next few years. Prove me wrong Coach.
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I had previously posted about Aligbe's visit. There is also zero info on his upcoming visit to BC on the internet. So at least that's consistent.


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philbert said:

I had previously posted about Aligbe's visit. There is also zero info on his upcoming visit to BC on the internet. So at least that's consistent.



Philbert, you are my biggest source for the very little recruiting info there is. I should have mentioned that in my initial post. Please post in this thread when you learn stuff.

A twitter "thinks for the visit coach" is standard. Not seeing one made me think the visit was delayed. But there could be other reasons.
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sluggo said:

News on the recruiting front is quiet, to say the least, other than the Mahaney commitment to St. Mary's. I decided to post everything I have gathered, which is almost nothing, but is not exactly nothing. Maybe others have more to add.

Prince Aligbe is a 6'6'' power wing from Minnehaha Academy in Minneapolis, the school of Jalen Suggs and Chet Holmgren. I read somewhere that he has known coach Francis for many years, and he has expressed interest in visiting Cal. But he probably has not visited yet because there is nothing on the internet about him visiting. I watched his video and like him a lot, even though he can't shoot. I hope he is the first to commit to make it safe for others.

Milos Uzan is a 6'4'' four star point guard from Las Vegas. He announced on twitter that Cal made his final 8. But there are higher ranked schools in that 8, like SC, Utah and ASU. Seems like he would be a tough get. I don't know of any connection to Cal. Maybe he likes harsh covid restrictions, that can be the Cal selling point.

I have seen offers to various randoms. I have not heard of any of those randoms being interested. Anyone know anything?



I thought he was taller. If Aligbe is 6'6" and cannot shoot he would appear to be a redundant addition to next year's roster. We have plenty of athletic wings who cannot shoot. We need big men, shooters and a PG.
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calumnus said:

sluggo said:

News on the recruiting front is quiet, to say the least, other than the Mahaney commitment to St. Mary's. I decided to post everything I have gathered, which is almost nothing, but is not exactly nothing. Maybe others have more to add.

Prince Aligbe is a 6'6'' power wing from Minnehaha Academy in Minneapolis, the school of Jalen Suggs and Chet Holmgren. I read somewhere that he has known coach Francis for many years, and he has expressed interest in visiting Cal. But he probably has not visited yet because there is nothing on the internet about him visiting. I watched his video and like him a lot, even though he can't shoot. I hope he is the first to commit to make it safe for others.

Milos Uzan is a 6'4'' four star point guard from Las Vegas. He announced on twitter that Cal made his final 8. But there are higher ranked schools in that 8, like SC, Utah and ASU. Seems like he would be a tough get. I don't know of any connection to Cal. Maybe he likes harsh covid restrictions, that can be the Cal selling point.

I have seen offers to various randoms. I have not heard of any of those randoms being interested. Anyone know anything?



I thought he was taller. If Aligbe is 6'6" and cannot shoot he would appear to be a redundant addition to next year's roster. We have plenty of athletic wings who cannot shoot. We need big men, shooters and a PG.
He is a 3/4 power wing, same as Alajiki and Anyanwu. But he is a much better player than either one, and I think he would end up being the best player on the team. I want him. Watch these highlights and tell me you don't.

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He can drive but it looks like his team is playing against the Washington Generals.
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sluggo said:

calumnus said:

sluggo said:

News on the recruiting front is quiet, to say the least, other than the Mahaney commitment to St. Mary's. I decided to post everything I have gathered, which is almost nothing, but is not exactly nothing. Maybe others have more to add.

Prince Aligbe is a 6'6'' power wing from Minnehaha Academy in Minneapolis, the school of Jalen Suggs and Chet Holmgren. I read somewhere that he has known coach Francis for many years, and he has expressed interest in visiting Cal. But he probably has not visited yet because there is nothing on the internet about him visiting. I watched his video and like him a lot, even though he can't shoot. I hope he is the first to commit to make it safe for others.

Milos Uzan is a 6'4'' four star point guard from Las Vegas. He announced on twitter that Cal made his final 8. But there are higher ranked schools in that 8, like SC, Utah and ASU. Seems like he would be a tough get. I don't know of any connection to Cal. Maybe he likes harsh covid restrictions, that can be the Cal selling point.

I have seen offers to various randoms. I have not heard of any of those randoms being interested. Anyone know anything?



I thought he was taller. If Aligbe is 6'6" and cannot shoot he would appear to be a redundant addition to next year's roster. We have plenty of athletic wings who cannot shoot. We need big men, shooters and a PG.
He is a 3/4 power wing, same as Alajiki and Anyanwu. But he is a much better player than either one, and I think he would end up being the best player on the team. I want him. Watch these highlights and tell me you don't.




4 stars, but just outside the top 100. Agree, we need talent. Hope he comes.v
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stu said:

He can drive but it looks like his team is playing against the Washington Generals.
That is funny. He does play for one of the best teams in the country. Even if he was alone on the court his movement is impressive. He is an athlete.
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According to twitter Milos Uzan is visiting UNLV this weekend. I guess he is from Las Vegas but playing high school ball in Arizona.

According to the article below Cal is in the top 4. Coach Fox coached his AAU coach. I hope Cal gets a visit before he commits.
https://www.on3.com/news/milos-uzan-2022-four-star-cuts-list-8/
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sluggo said:

calumnus said:

sluggo said:

News on the recruiting front is quiet, to say the least, other than the Mahaney commitment to St. Mary's. I decided to post everything I have gathered, which is almost nothing, but is not exactly nothing. Maybe others have more to add.

Prince Aligbe is a 6'6'' power wing from Minnehaha Academy in Minneapolis, the school of Jalen Suggs and Chet Holmgren. I read somewhere that he has known coach Francis for many years, and he has expressed interest in visiting Cal. But he probably has not visited yet because there is nothing on the internet about him visiting. I watched his video and like him a lot, even though he can't shoot. I hope he is the first to commit to make it safe for others.

Milos Uzan is a 6'4'' four star point guard from Las Vegas. He announced on twitter that Cal made his final 8. But there are higher ranked schools in that 8, like SC, Utah and ASU. Seems like he would be a tough get. I don't know of any connection to Cal. Maybe he likes harsh covid restrictions, that can be the Cal selling point.

I have seen offers to various randoms. I have not heard of any of those randoms being interested. Anyone know anything?



I thought he was taller. If Aligbe is 6'6" and cannot shoot he would appear to be a redundant addition to next year's roster. We have plenty of athletic wings who cannot shoot. We need big men, shooters and a PG.
He is a 3/4 power wing, same as Alajiki and Anyanwu. But he is a much better player than either one, and I think he would end up being the best player on the team. I want him. Watch these highlights and tell me you don't.



Yep, probably be the best player on the team!
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I didn't see any of the perimeter or midrange skills that you'd like to see in a 3. Looks like more of a 4, but Cal needs as much talent as it can get. Fox needs recruiting momentum. Hope they can sign him.
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calumnus said:

sluggo said:

News on the recruiting front is quiet, to say the least, other than the Mahaney commitment to St. Mary's. I decided to post everything I have gathered, which is almost nothing, but is not exactly nothing. Maybe others have more to add.

Prince Aligbe is a 6'6'' power wing from Minnehaha Academy in Minneapolis, the school of Jalen Suggs and Chet Holmgren. I read somewhere that he has known coach Francis for many years, and he has expressed interest in visiting Cal. But he probably has not visited yet because there is nothing on the internet about him visiting. I watched his video and like him a lot, even though he can't shoot. I hope he is the first to commit to make it safe for others.

Milos Uzan is a 6'4'' four star point guard from Las Vegas. He announced on twitter that Cal made his final 8. But there are higher ranked schools in that 8, like SC, Utah and ASU. Seems like he would be a tough get. I don't know of any connection to Cal. Maybe he likes harsh covid restrictions, that can be the Cal selling point.

I have seen offers to various randoms. I have not heard of any of those randoms being interested. Anyone know anything?



I thought he was taller. If Aligbe is 6'6" and cannot shoot he would appear to be a redundant addition to next year's roster. We have plenty of athletic wings who cannot shoot. We need big men, shooters and a PG.
Amen to that.
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Prince was a baller.

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Thanks for starting this thread Sluggo.

Prince is a stud. We should be ECSTATIC to land him. He's a 4 Star for crissakes.

Uzan is on record last spring saying Cal was recruiting him the hardest (more than any other school). Who knows the current status. I thought that was interesting considering Mahaney was in play at the time. Hopefully that made an impression on Uzan. Uzan is rated higher than Mahaney by all the services. We should be ecstatic to land him as well.

Other than that, all the high/medium profile players we have offered in the past 6 months have either committed elsewhere or have shown little interest in us.

But who knows, Fox likes to keep a tight lid on recruiting and publicity which is an interesting strategy to say the least. Not sure what type of sales job he's attempting with that approach.

A rare post by Cal Hoops twitter had Fox giving a motivational speech at practice which sounded eerily similar to his disastrous first speech to the team when he was hired and lead to widespread transfers. (repeating "the magic is in the work" - sigh - better than "invest and attack" but still) Also on social, his brief interaction with Jaylen was kind of cringe. Perfect time for him to amplify his return to campus--yet nothing.

The 2021 recruiting class will tell us all we need to know.




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BC Calfan said:


A rare post by Cal Hoops twitter had Fox giving a motivational speech at practice which sounded eerily similar to his disastrous first speech to the team when he was hired and lead to widespread transfers. (repeating "the magic is in the work" - sigh - better than "invest and attack" but still) Also on social, his brief interaction with Jaylen was kind of cringe. Perfect time for him to amplify his return to campus--yet nothing.






The difference in charisma between Cuonzo and Fox is unreal. Cuonzo couldn't coach a YMCA offense but the players would run through a brick wall for him.
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If Fox can bring in these two 4-star recruits this would be his best class by far. We'ld still lack quality bigs and dead-eye shooters but we'd have something to build on. Should we know by November?
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stu said:

If Fox can bring in these two 4-star recruits this would be his best class by far. We'ld still lack quality bigs and dead-eye shooters but we'd have something to build on. Should we know by November?


It would be an absolute miracle if he landed BOTH of these recruits! Just getting close to one is a giant surprise.
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Off his video, he doesn't look like a player who'll boost the Bears' perimeter scoring should he come to Cal.
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BC Calfan said:


A rare post by Cal Hoops twitter had Fox giving a motivational speech at practice which sounded eerily similar to his disastrous first speech to the team when he was hired and lead to widespread transfers. (repeating "the magic is in the work" - sigh - better than "invest and attack" but still) Also on social, his brief interaction with Jaylen was kind of cringe. Perfect time for him to amplify his return to campus--yet nothing.






The difference in charisma between Cuonzo and Fox is unreal. Cuonzo couldn't coach a YMCA offense but the players would run through a brick wall for him.


Problem is, Fox's offensive skills are the same as Cuonzo's. They both are defense first coaches, but mostly due to trying to get their guys to play with a lot of energy on defense, then slow down on offense.

The difference is Cuonzo is charismatic and a good recruiter so he did it with highly rated players who were highly motivated and would "run through a brick wall for him." He had skilled players who could produce offense in their own. Whereas Fox is not charismatic, not a good recruiter, so he brings in lower rated althetic, but low skill guys that he tries to get to play tough defense by being a hard ass. He has run off nearly all the even moderately skilled players Wyking Jones brought in. He has found one reasonably skilled player in Celestine.

Next two years could be rough.

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calumnus said:

concernedparent said:

BC Calfan said:


A rare post by Cal Hoops twitter had Fox giving a motivational speech at practice which sounded eerily similar to his disastrous first speech to the team when he was hired and lead to widespread transfers. (repeating "the magic is in the work" - sigh - better than "invest and attack" but still) Also on social, his brief interaction with Jaylen was kind of cringe. Perfect time for him to amplify his return to campus--yet nothing.






The difference in charisma between Cuonzo and Fox is unreal. Cuonzo couldn't coach a YMCA offense but the players would run through a brick wall for him.


Problem is, Fox's offensive skills are the same as Cuonzo's. They both are defense first coaches, but mostly due to trying to get their guys to play with a lot of energy on defense, then slow down on offense.

The difference is Cuonzo is charismatic and a good recruiter so he did it with highly rated players who were highly motivated and would "run through a brick wall for him." He had skilled players who could produce offense in their own. Whereas Fox is not charismatic, not a good recruiter, so he brings in lower rated althetic, but low skill guys that he tries to get to play tough defense by being a hard ass. He has run off nearly all the even moderately skilled players Wyking Jones brought in. He has found one reasonably skilled player in Celestine.

Next two years could be rough.


After not getting Mahaney and he won't get Lewis, that was his only real hope of turning this around. Can we just move on from Fox so we can hasten the process of getting back to being a good team in the Pac-12?
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KoreAmBear said:

calumnus said:

concernedparent said:

BC Calfan said:


A rare post by Cal Hoops twitter had Fox giving a motivational speech at practice which sounded eerily similar to his disastrous first speech to the team when he was hired and lead to widespread transfers. (repeating "the magic is in the work" - sigh - better than "invest and attack" but still) Also on social, his brief interaction with Jaylen was kind of cringe. Perfect time for him to amplify his return to campus--yet nothing.






The difference in charisma between Cuonzo and Fox is unreal. Cuonzo couldn't coach a YMCA offense but the players would run through a brick wall for him.


Problem is, Fox's offensive skills are the same as Cuonzo's. They both are defense first coaches, but mostly due to trying to get their guys to play with a lot of energy on defense, then slow down on offense.

The difference is Cuonzo is charismatic and a good recruiter so he did it with highly rated players who were highly motivated and would "run through a brick wall for him." He had skilled players who could produce offense in their own. Whereas Fox is not charismatic, not a good recruiter, so he brings in lower rated althetic, but low skill guys that he tries to get to play tough defense by being a hard ass. He has run off nearly all the even moderately skilled players Wyking Jones brought in. He has found one reasonably skilled player in Celestine.

Next two years could be rough.


After not getting Mahaney and he won't get Lewis, that was his only real hope of turning this around. Can we just move on from Fox so we can hasten the process of getting back to being a good team in the Pac-12?

Maybe. Check back in 5-6 months. Heck, maybe he will even surprise us! I suppose the worst would be "some improvement" where Knowlton wants to give him more time, but we're still spinning our wheels.
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Big C said:

KoreAmBear said:

calumnus said:

concernedparent said:

BC Calfan said:


A rare post by Cal Hoops twitter had Fox giving a motivational speech at practice which sounded eerily similar to his disastrous first speech to the team when he was hired and lead to widespread transfers. (repeating "the magic is in the work" - sigh - better than "invest and attack" but still) Also on social, his brief interaction with Jaylen was kind of cringe. Perfect time for him to amplify his return to campus--yet nothing.






The difference in charisma between Cuonzo and Fox is unreal. Cuonzo couldn't coach a YMCA offense but the players would run through a brick wall for him.


Problem is, Fox's offensive skills are the same as Cuonzo's. They both are defense first coaches, but mostly due to trying to get their guys to play with a lot of energy on defense, then slow down on offense.

The difference is Cuonzo is charismatic and a good recruiter so he did it with highly rated players who were highly motivated and would "run through a brick wall for him." He had skilled players who could produce offense in their own. Whereas Fox is not charismatic, not a good recruiter, so he brings in lower rated althetic, but low skill guys that he tries to get to play tough defense by being a hard ass. He has run off nearly all the even moderately skilled players Wyking Jones brought in. He has found one reasonably skilled player in Celestine.

Next two years could be rough.


After not getting Mahaney and he won't get Lewis, that was his only real hope of turning this around. Can we just move on from Fox so we can hasten the process of getting back to being a good team in the Pac-12?

Maybe. Check back in 5-6 months. Heck, maybe he will even surprise us! I suppose the worst would be "some improvement" where Knowlton wants to give him more time, but we're still spinning our wheels.
I have a feeling we could be a .500 team because of the vets we have. But that's like the ceiling for a Fox team.
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Big C said:

KoreAmBear said:

calumnus said:

concernedparent said:

BC Calfan said:


A rare post by Cal Hoops twitter had Fox giving a motivational speech at practice which sounded eerily similar to his disastrous first speech to the team when he was hired and lead to widespread transfers. (repeating "the magic is in the work" - sigh - better than "invest and attack" but still) Also on social, his brief interaction with Jaylen was kind of cringe. Perfect time for him to amplify his return to campus--yet nothing.






The difference in charisma between Cuonzo and Fox is unreal. Cuonzo couldn't coach a YMCA offense but the players would run through a brick wall for him.


Problem is, Fox's offensive skills are the same as Cuonzo's. They both are defense first coaches, but mostly due to trying to get their guys to play with a lot of energy on defense, then slow down on offense.

The difference is Cuonzo is charismatic and a good recruiter so he did it with highly rated players who were highly motivated and would "run through a brick wall for him." He had skilled players who could produce offense in their own. Whereas Fox is not charismatic, not a good recruiter, so he brings in lower rated althetic, but low skill guys that he tries to get to play tough defense by being a hard ass. He has run off nearly all the even moderately skilled players Wyking Jones brought in. He has found one reasonably skilled player in Celestine.

Next two years could be rough.


After not getting Mahaney and he won't get Lewis, that was his only real hope of turning this around. Can we just move on from Fox so we can hasten the process of getting back to being a good team in the Pac-12?

Maybe. Check back in 5-6 months. Heck, maybe he will even surprise us! I suppose the worst would be "some improvement" where Knowlton wants to give him more time, but we're still spinning our wheels.


That is my hope. This time I really hope Knowlton outsources the search to a committee of Cal basketball alums like Kidd, Brown, Marks, Shareef, etc
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calumnus said:

Big C said:

KoreAmBear said:

calumnus said:

concernedparent said:

BC Calfan said:


A rare post by Cal Hoops twitter had Fox giving a motivational speech at practice which sounded eerily similar to his disastrous first speech to the team when he was hired and lead to widespread transfers. (repeating "the magic is in the work" - sigh - better than "invest and attack" but still) Also on social, his brief interaction with Jaylen was kind of cringe. Perfect time for him to amplify his return to campus--yet nothing.






The difference in charisma between Cuonzo and Fox is unreal. Cuonzo couldn't coach a YMCA offense but the players would run through a brick wall for him.


Problem is, Fox's offensive skills are the same as Cuonzo's. They both are defense first coaches, but mostly due to trying to get their guys to play with a lot of energy on defense, then slow down on offense.

The difference is Cuonzo is charismatic and a good recruiter so he did it with highly rated players who were highly motivated and would "run through a brick wall for him." He had skilled players who could produce offense in their own. Whereas Fox is not charismatic, not a good recruiter, so he brings in lower rated althetic, but low skill guys that he tries to get to play tough defense by being a hard ass. He has run off nearly all the even moderately skilled players Wyking Jones brought in. He has found one reasonably skilled player in Celestine.

Next two years could be rough.


After not getting Mahaney and he won't get Lewis, that was his only real hope of turning this around. Can we just move on from Fox so we can hasten the process of getting back to being a good team in the Pac-12?

Maybe. Check back in 5-6 months. Heck, maybe he will even surprise us! I suppose the worst would be "some improvement" where Knowlton wants to give him more time, but we're still spinning our wheels.


That is my hope. This time I really hope Knowlton outsources the search to a committee of Cal basketball alums like Kidd, Brown, Marks, Shareef, etc
I have to harken back to what you said about Fox in his treatment of Matt Bradley at the UCLA game last year.

Didn't play him in the 2nd half for some reason (we still don't fully know), basically showing him up in front of his teammates and coaches, and all his friends and family in LA watching on TV. Way to treat the only guy that could start for another Pac-12 team. You showed him!

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KoreAmBear said:

calumnus said:

Big C said:

KoreAmBear said:

calumnus said:

concernedparent said:

BC Calfan said:


A rare post by Cal Hoops twitter had Fox giving a motivational speech at practice which sounded eerily similar to his disastrous first speech to the team when he was hired and lead to widespread transfers. (repeating "the magic is in the work" - sigh - better than "invest and attack" but still) Also on social, his brief interaction with Jaylen was kind of cringe. Perfect time for him to amplify his return to campus--yet nothing.






The difference in charisma between Cuonzo and Fox is unreal. Cuonzo couldn't coach a YMCA offense but the players would run through a brick wall for him.


Problem is, Fox's offensive skills are the same as Cuonzo's. They both are defense first coaches, but mostly due to trying to get their guys to play with a lot of energy on defense, then slow down on offense.

The difference is Cuonzo is charismatic and a good recruiter so he did it with highly rated players who were highly motivated and would "run through a brick wall for him." He had skilled players who could produce offense in their own. Whereas Fox is not charismatic, not a good recruiter, so he brings in lower rated althetic, but low skill guys that he tries to get to play tough defense by being a hard ass. He has run off nearly all the even moderately skilled players Wyking Jones brought in. He has found one reasonably skilled player in Celestine.

Next two years could be rough.


After not getting Mahaney and he won't get Lewis, that was his only real hope of turning this around. Can we just move on from Fox so we can hasten the process of getting back to being a good team in the Pac-12?

Maybe. Check back in 5-6 months. Heck, maybe he will even surprise us! I suppose the worst would be "some improvement" where Knowlton wants to give him more time, but we're still spinning our wheels.


That is my hope. This time I really hope Knowlton outsources the search to a committee of Cal basketball alums like Kidd, Brown, Marks, Shareef, etc
I have to harken back to what you said about Fox in his treatment of Matt Bradley at the UCLA game last year.

Didn't play him in the 2nd half for some reason (we still don't fully know), basically showing him up in front of his teammates and coaches, and all his friends and family in LA watching on TV. Way to treat the only guy that could start for another Pac-12 team. You showed him!




It seemed really strange. Bradley was the guy that stayed and then showed Fox the most loyalty, who said good things and was praised by all the insiders for his character.
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calumnus said:

KoreAmBear said:

calumnus said:

Big C said:

KoreAmBear said:

calumnus said:

concernedparent said:

BC Calfan said:


A rare post by Cal Hoops twitter had Fox giving a motivational speech at practice which sounded eerily similar to his disastrous first speech to the team when he was hired and lead to widespread transfers. (repeating "the magic is in the work" - sigh - better than "invest and attack" but still) Also on social, his brief interaction with Jaylen was kind of cringe. Perfect time for him to amplify his return to campus--yet nothing.






The difference in charisma between Cuonzo and Fox is unreal. Cuonzo couldn't coach a YMCA offense but the players would run through a brick wall for him.


Problem is, Fox's offensive skills are the same as Cuonzo's. They both are defense first coaches, but mostly due to trying to get their guys to play with a lot of energy on defense, then slow down on offense.

The difference is Cuonzo is charismatic and a good recruiter so he did it with highly rated players who were highly motivated and would "run through a brick wall for him." He had skilled players who could produce offense in their own. Whereas Fox is not charismatic, not a good recruiter, so he brings in lower rated althetic, but low skill guys that he tries to get to play tough defense by being a hard ass. He has run off nearly all the even moderately skilled players Wyking Jones brought in. He has found one reasonably skilled player in Celestine.

Next two years could be rough.


After not getting Mahaney and he won't get Lewis, that was his only real hope of turning this around. Can we just move on from Fox so we can hasten the process of getting back to being a good team in the Pac-12?

Maybe. Check back in 5-6 months. Heck, maybe he will even surprise us! I suppose the worst would be "some improvement" where Knowlton wants to give him more time, but we're still spinning our wheels.


That is my hope. This time I really hope Knowlton outsources the search to a committee of Cal basketball alums like Kidd, Brown, Marks, Shareef, etc
I have to harken back to what you said about Fox in his treatment of Matt Bradley at the UCLA game last year.

Didn't play him in the 2nd half for some reason (we still don't fully know), basically showing him up in front of his teammates and coaches, and all his friends and family in LA watching on TV. Way to treat the only guy that could start for another Pac-12 team. You showed him!




It seemed really strange. Bradley was the guy that stayed and then showed Fox the most loyalty, who said good things and was praised by all the insiders for his character.
He seems to think sticking to his guns is going to work like he has a decade to right the ship. Really bad look. Can't believe how bad Cal basketball is on so many levels.
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BC Calfan said:

... A rare post by Cal Hoops twitter had Fox giving a motivational speech at practice which sounded eerily similar to his disastrous first speech to the team when he was hired and lead to widespread transfers. (repeating "the magic is in the work" - sigh - better than "invest and attack" but still) ...
If you mute the audio and scroll to hide the captions it's not that bad, just boring and pointless. IMHO we should attack the problem by investing in a better coach.
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stu said:

BC Calfan said:

... A rare post by Cal Hoops twitter had Fox giving a motivational speech at practice which sounded eerily similar to his disastrous first speech to the team when he was hired and lead to widespread transfers. (repeating "the magic is in the work" - sigh - better than "invest and attack" but still) ...
If you mute the audio and scroll to hide the captions it's not that bad, just boring and pointless. IMHO we should attack the problem by investing in a better coach.
Don't you think that sadly Fox is pretty much what JK wants?

This approach (and probably rightly so) would work well at the service academies given the kind of kids that decide they want to go that route and add on the challenges of playing D1 athletics while keeping up a ridiculous hard academic load (this isn't to say that Cal is easier - just that on top of demanding classes the academies require all the other "stuff" that goes into Military training. Still remember a visit on an academic conference to the AFA where the freshman had to wake up at 4 so they could play "alarm clock" starting at 530.

Where it doesn't work? With kids who aspire to going to the NBA from where on day 1 if they are a first round choice they are making as much or more than coach and CLEARLY have more power in at least 1/2 of the franchises.
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socaltownie said:

Don't you think that sadly Fox is pretty much what JK wants?

This approach (and probably rightly so) would work well at the service academies given the kind of kids that decide they want to go that route ...
I think you're right on both counts. I suspect that approach works in the military in general, not just at the academies. And I doubt either Fox or Knowlton realize Cal is neither.
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sluggo said:

According to twitter Milos Uzan is visiting UNLV this weekend. I guess he is from Las Vegas but playing high school ball in Arizona.

According to the article below Cal is in the top 4. Coach Fox coached his AAU coach. I hope Cal gets a visit before he commits.
https://www.on3.com/news/milos-uzan-2022-four-star-cuts-list-8/

Officially in the top 4. Still got a shot, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

Also, not a peep about Aligbe's visit to BC this past weekend, so at least he's being consistently silent (assuming he did visit Cal last weekend).


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philbert said:

sluggo said:

According to twitter Milos Uzan is visiting UNLV this weekend. I guess he is from Las Vegas but playing high school ball in Arizona.

According to the article below Cal is in the top 4. Coach Fox coached his AAU coach. I hope Cal gets a visit before he commits.
https://www.on3.com/news/milos-uzan-2022-four-star-cuts-list-8/

Officially in the top 4. Still got a shot, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

Also, not a peep about Aligbe's visit to BC this past weekend, so at least he's being consistently silent (assuming he did visit Cal last weekend).



Thanks for the update. I read at that link that Uzan plans to visit Cal this weekend. Maybe he will be swept away by a big win against WSU on Saturday. The competitors are UNLV, Oklahoma and Utah, all schools that have seen better days in basketball. (Much the same could be said about Cal.). UNLV may have a hometown advantage. Or maybe not.
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sluggo said:

philbert said:

sluggo said:

According to twitter Milos Uzan is visiting UNLV this weekend. I guess he is from Las Vegas but playing high school ball in Arizona.

According to the article below Cal is in the top 4. Coach Fox coached his AAU coach. I hope Cal gets a visit before he commits.
https://www.on3.com/news/milos-uzan-2022-four-star-cuts-list-8/

Officially in the top 4. Still got a shot, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

Also, not a peep about Aligbe's visit to BC this past weekend, so at least he's being consistently silent (assuming he did visit Cal last weekend).



Thanks for the update. I read at that link that Uzan plans to visit Cal this weekend. Maybe he will be swept away by a big win against WSU on Saturday. The competitors are UNLV, Oklahoma and Utah, all schools that have seen better days in basketball. (Much the same could be said about Cal.). UNLV may have a hometown advantage. Or maybe not.


We seem to be the outlier in that group if only based on academics and location. Hope that is a good sign.
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