Fox was able to scrounge up some Zachary's gift cards and a couple of Top Dog t-shirts. Not sure if that will be enough.rkt88edmo said:Agree, it's hard to imagine us coming up with enough to beat out overseas play but by stayingoskidunker said:
Why would Kelly stay even if he gets some money? More money probably in Europe plus no studying . They are going to have to come up with a-lot.
-familiar language
-familiar team
But I'd think the deciding factor would be, does another year at Cal get him closer to the NBA compared to his other options?
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i doubt Fox can get him....
#WSU's Tyrell Roberts, a 31-game starter as a junior and first-year Coug sharpshooter last year, is in the portal. https://t.co/PXckOQpyvZ
— Colton Clark (@SpokesmanClark) April 29, 2022
Wazzu's top three returning scorers all in the portal. 6 players in all. I thought Kyle Smith was building something there?
See the "Pay to Play" thread. Eventually I'll even get tired of complaining about it here and, after10+ years, will shift my attention completely away from this league and give it the same attention that I do to the G League and the Spanish Professional league (whatever it's called). That is none.
agree. I've already shifting to other Cal sports like softballparentswerebears said:
See the "Pay to Play" thread. Eventually I'll even get tired of complaining about it here and, after10+ years, will shift my attention completely away from this league and give it the same attention that I do to the G League and the Spanish Professional league (whatever it's called). That is none.
as for Roberts, I thought he already transferred once... I guess a player can transfer once as an undergrad with immediate eligibility, and again as a grad transfer with immediate eligibility
WSU will have a tough time without those 3 players
2023 RJ Jones(John Paul II/@drivenationeybl) has locked in an Official Visit with Cal for 4/29.
— Endless Motor Sports (@endless_motor) April 18, 2022
Shotmaking 6’3 guard with outstanding academic resume is a priority prospect for Golden Bear HC Mark Fox. pic.twitter.com/RMaPRMOFU0
I counted the total stars of the 12 players left on the roster inc, the two frosh coming in. I left out Kelly. 12 players = 30 stars total. Verbal commits.com is a great, but depressing site if your teams the one with no talent. Nebraska has two 4 and one 5 star coming in. Cal and Oregon St. Are the two worst P5 teams in college hoops.
And at least OSU had the elite 8 run last year. We really may be the absolute worst program in P5 basketball.Ccajon2 said:
I counted the total stars of the 12 players left on the roster inc, the two frosh coming in. I left out Kelly. 12 players = 30 stars total. Verbal commits.com is a great, but depressing site if your teams the one with no talent. Nebraska has two 4 and one 5 star coming in. Cal and Oregon St. Are the two worst P5 teams in college hoops.
FWIW VC lists R.J.Jones as a 2-star SG from Texas with offers from (oldest to newest):
TCU
Tulsa
UT Arlington
Texas Rio Grande Valley
St Louis
USC
Texas Tech
Texas A&M
Old Dominion
Oklahoma State
Illinois
Missouri (!)
Xavier
SMU
TCU
Tulsa
UT Arlington
Texas Rio Grande Valley
St Louis
USC
Texas Tech
Texas A&M
Old Dominion
Oklahoma State
Illinois
Missouri (!)
Xavier
SMU
Yes and depressing for sure. Leaving Kelly out, is likely the right assumption. Latest is that trips are planned to visit Florida, Ohio St. and UCSB (due to strong relationship with Coach Pasternak first recruiting go around). Likely going to come down to NIL along with comfort with HC.Ccajon2 said:
I counted the total stars of the 12 players left on the roster inc, the two frosh coming in. I left out Kelly. 12 players = 30 stars total. Verbal commits.com is a great, but depressing site if your teams the one with no talent. Nebraska has two 4 and one 5 star coming in. Cal and Oregon St. Are the two worst P5 teams in college hoops.
Wooow, if Pasternak or Golden lands him. What a gut punch by 2 coaches we identified years ago as feasible candidates.
Can we get some good news?
Can we get some good news?
NOBC Calfan said:
Wooow, if Pasternak or Golden lands him. What a gut punch by 2 coaches we identified years ago as feasible candidates.
Can we get some good news?
.BC Calfan said:
Wooow, if Pasternak or Golden lands him. What a gut punch by 2 coaches we identified years ago as feasible candidates.
Can we get some good news?
No.
Pasternak, Golden or SueingBC Calfan said:
Wooow, if Pasternak or Golden lands him. What a gut punch by 2 coaches we identified years ago as feasible candidates.
Can we get some good news?
oskidunker said:And if no one else developed in to an inside scoring threat, Fox will put Kelly back in to the middle and screw his nba chances4thGenCal said:Exactly - Since Fox needs to overcome the perception of "my stock is as high as it can be". Kelly wants to showcase/develop his outside shot to be part of his package. The pay structure of playing overseas can fairly easily be neutralized by donor's chipping in with a NIL arrangement. AK is really more driven by Gleague/nba team tryouts (which is not going to happen in the way he would hope). AK is being advised by different people with different thoughts - He will not make any decision until after finals and even then he has flexibility to decide which path he will take. I would like to see him back not just for Cal, but also for his development, as he has improved under this staff and leaving is a risky move that does not always work out. His skill set would improve as he is a focal part of the team, versus being just a part elsewhere.calumnus said:rkt88edmo said:Agree, it's hard to imagine us coming up with enough to beat out overseas play but by stayingoskidunker said:
Why would Kelly stay even if he gets some money? More money probably in Europe plus no studying . They are going to have to come up with a-lot.
-familiar language
-familiar team
But I'd think the deciding factor would be, does another year at Cal get him closer to the NBA compared to his other options?
If he is going to play another year in college to get more attractive to the NBA, it would need to be at a program where he can play PF and away from the basket, especially demonstrating 3 pt shooting. With Grant struggling last year and Lars improving, we could have done that last year. However, with Grant now gone, maybe that is Fox's pitch?
Yep. He should have gotten SOME time at PF last year.
There is now two available, good luck to Andre Kelly as He will shortly announce his transfer decision. Hint - a coach who is a proven winner, put players in the NBA, has strong local ties and has gone to tournament.4thGenCal said:My understanding is that there is one now and only another opens up, if Kelly does not come back.KoreAmBear said:That would be interesting if we got Dre back and we have DJ's (medical retirement - aw man I was hoping for some good play from him) and Klonara's schollys available to use?4thGenCal said:DJ Thorpe scholarship is open (he keeps his aid due to medical retirement) and while Andre Kelly has been a longer shot to stay, its become close to 50/50 on him staying. Teammates are weighing on him and Coach Fox is trying to stir up a reasonable NIL deal. Interesting how roster's can swing some in fairly short time. Coach as it is required/expected, is out aggressively on the recruiting trail ie was in Indy over the weekend, to watch the Oakland Soldiers play. Still the many misses continues to be disappointing.sluggo said:He should be extended, since how is he supposed to succeed without a point guard?BC Calfan said:
-Fox is entering his 4th year with the program and has not brought in a point guard.
-We have lost recruits to St. Mary's, St. Bonaventure and Loyola Marymount this past year.
-As it stands now, our projected starting lineup averaged 25 ppg last year.
To be fair, there is only one spot, so it does not matter who he misses on, only who he gets.
I'm glad Andre escaped and will get a chance to showcase his game away from Fox.4thGenCal said:There is now two available, good luck to Andre Kelly as He will shortly announce his transfer decision. Hint - a coach who is a proven winner, put players in the NBA, has strong local ties and has gone to tournament.4thGenCal said:My understanding is that there is one now and only another opens up, if Kelly does not come back.KoreAmBear said:That would be interesting if we got Dre back and we have DJ's (medical retirement - aw man I was hoping for some good play from him) and Klonara's schollys available to use?4thGenCal said:DJ Thorpe scholarship is open (he keeps his aid due to medical retirement) and while Andre Kelly has been a longer shot to stay, its become close to 50/50 on him staying. Teammates are weighing on him and Coach Fox is trying to stir up a reasonable NIL deal. Interesting how roster's can swing some in fairly short time. Coach as it is required/expected, is out aggressively on the recruiting trail ie was in Indy over the weekend, to watch the Oakland Soldiers play. Still the many misses continues to be disappointing.sluggo said:He should be extended, since how is he supposed to succeed without a point guard?BC Calfan said:
-Fox is entering his 4th year with the program and has not brought in a point guard.
-We have lost recruits to St. Mary's, St. Bonaventure and Loyola Marymount this past year.
-As it stands now, our projected starting lineup averaged 25 ppg last year.
To be fair, there is only one spot, so it does not matter who he misses on, only who he gets.
sounds like Santa Barbara4thGenCal said:There is now two available, good luck to Andre Kelly as He will shortly announce his transfer decision. Hint - a coach who is a proven winner, put players in the NBA, has strong local ties and has gone to tournament.4thGenCal said:My understanding is that there is one now and only another opens up, if Kelly does not come back.KoreAmBear said:That would be interesting if we got Dre back and we have DJ's (medical retirement - aw man I was hoping for some good play from him) and Klonara's schollys available to use?4thGenCal said:DJ Thorpe scholarship is open (he keeps his aid due to medical retirement) and while Andre Kelly has been a longer shot to stay, its become close to 50/50 on him staying. Teammates are weighing on him and Coach Fox is trying to stir up a reasonable NIL deal. Interesting how roster's can swing some in fairly short time. Coach as it is required/expected, is out aggressively on the recruiting trail ie was in Indy over the weekend, to watch the Oakland Soldiers play. Still the many misses continues to be disappointing.sluggo said:He should be extended, since how is he supposed to succeed without a point guard?BC Calfan said:
-Fox is entering his 4th year with the program and has not brought in a point guard.
-We have lost recruits to St. Mary's, St. Bonaventure and Loyola Marymount this past year.
-As it stands now, our projected starting lineup averaged 25 ppg last year.
To be fair, there is only one spot, so it does not matter who he misses on, only who he gets.
That was my guess as well....playing for the coach that should be at Cal instead of Fox.HoopDreams said:sounds like Santa Barbara4thGenCal said:There is now two available, good luck to Andre Kelly as He will shortly announce his transfer decision. Hint - a coach who is a proven winner, put players in the NBA, has strong local ties and has gone to tournament.4thGenCal said:My understanding is that there is one now and only another opens up, if Kelly does not come back.KoreAmBear said:That would be interesting if we got Dre back and we have DJ's (medical retirement - aw man I was hoping for some good play from him) and Klonara's schollys available to use?4thGenCal said:DJ Thorpe scholarship is open (he keeps his aid due to medical retirement) and while Andre Kelly has been a longer shot to stay, its become close to 50/50 on him staying. Teammates are weighing on him and Coach Fox is trying to stir up a reasonable NIL deal. Interesting how roster's can swing some in fairly short time. Coach as it is required/expected, is out aggressively on the recruiting trail ie was in Indy over the weekend, to watch the Oakland Soldiers play. Still the many misses continues to be disappointing.sluggo said:He should be extended, since how is he supposed to succeed without a point guard?BC Calfan said:
-Fox is entering his 4th year with the program and has not brought in a point guard.
-We have lost recruits to St. Mary's, St. Bonaventure and Loyola Marymount this past year.
-As it stands now, our projected starting lineup averaged 25 ppg last year.
To be fair, there is only one spot, so it does not matter who he misses on, only who he gets.
I can understand transferring for NIL money, but I don't think Santa Barbara would be the place. Plus the putting players in the NBA would not apply.HoopDreams said:sounds like Santa Barbara4thGenCal said:There is now two available, good luck to Andre Kelly as He will shortly announce his transfer decision. Hint - a coach who is a proven winner, put players in the NBA, has strong local ties and has gone to tournament.4thGenCal said:My understanding is that there is one now and only another opens up, if Kelly does not come back.KoreAmBear said:That would be interesting if we got Dre back and we have DJ's (medical retirement - aw man I was hoping for some good play from him) and Klonara's schollys available to use?4thGenCal said:DJ Thorpe scholarship is open (he keeps his aid due to medical retirement) and while Andre Kelly has been a longer shot to stay, its become close to 50/50 on him staying. Teammates are weighing on him and Coach Fox is trying to stir up a reasonable NIL deal. Interesting how roster's can swing some in fairly short time. Coach as it is required/expected, is out aggressively on the recruiting trail ie was in Indy over the weekend, to watch the Oakland Soldiers play. Still the many misses continues to be disappointing.sluggo said:He should be extended, since how is he supposed to succeed without a point guard?BC Calfan said:
-Fox is entering his 4th year with the program and has not brought in a point guard.
-We have lost recruits to St. Mary's, St. Bonaventure and Loyola Marymount this past year.
-As it stands now, our projected starting lineup averaged 25 ppg last year.
To be fair, there is only one spot, so it does not matter who he misses on, only who he gets.
Gabe Vincent has started much of the playoffs for the #1 seed in the East, Miami Heat.sluggo said:
I can understand transferring for NIL money, but I don't think Santa Barbara would be the place. Plus the putting players in the NBA would not apply.
JaQuori McLaughlin played a couple games for the Dallas Mavericks on a 2 Way before an injury sidelined him for the season. Both played for Pasternack.
I heard that Andre did visit UCSB
That coach description is everything our current coach is not.4thGenCal said:There is now two available, good luck to Andre Kelly as He will shortly announce his transfer decision. Hint - a coach who is a proven winner, put players in the NBA, has strong local ties and has gone to tournament.4thGenCal said:My understanding is that there is one now and only another opens up, if Kelly does not come back.KoreAmBear said:That would be interesting if we got Dre back and we have DJ's (medical retirement - aw man I was hoping for some good play from him) and Klonara's schollys available to use?4thGenCal said:DJ Thorpe scholarship is open (he keeps his aid due to medical retirement) and while Andre Kelly has been a longer shot to stay, its become close to 50/50 on him staying. Teammates are weighing on him and Coach Fox is trying to stir up a reasonable NIL deal. Interesting how roster's can swing some in fairly short time. Coach as it is required/expected, is out aggressively on the recruiting trail ie was in Indy over the weekend, to watch the Oakland Soldiers play. Still the many misses continues to be disappointing.sluggo said:He should be extended, since how is he supposed to succeed without a point guard?BC Calfan said:
-Fox is entering his 4th year with the program and has not brought in a point guard.
-We have lost recruits to St. Mary's, St. Bonaventure and Loyola Marymount this past year.
-As it stands now, our projected starting lineup averaged 25 ppg last year.
To be fair, there is only one spot, so it does not matter who he misses on, only who he gets.
My god, I hope it's not St. Mary's.
I hope it's not the other college that starts with an "S" - down the Peninsula . . .BC Calfan said:That coach description is everything our current coach is not.4thGenCal said:There is now two available, good luck to Andre Kelly as He will shortly announce his transfer decision. Hint - a coach who is a proven winner, put players in the NBA, has strong local ties and has gone to tournament.4thGenCal said:My understanding is that there is one now and only another opens up, if Kelly does not come back.KoreAmBear said:That would be interesting if we got Dre back and we have DJ's (medical retirement - aw man I was hoping for some good play from him) and Klonara's schollys available to use?4thGenCal said:DJ Thorpe scholarship is open (he keeps his aid due to medical retirement) and while Andre Kelly has been a longer shot to stay, its become close to 50/50 on him staying. Teammates are weighing on him and Coach Fox is trying to stir up a reasonable NIL deal. Interesting how roster's can swing some in fairly short time. Coach as it is required/expected, is out aggressively on the recruiting trail ie was in Indy over the weekend, to watch the Oakland Soldiers play. Still the many misses continues to be disappointing.sluggo said:He should be extended, since how is he supposed to succeed without a point guard?BC Calfan said:
-Fox is entering his 4th year with the program and has not brought in a point guard.
-We have lost recruits to St. Mary's, St. Bonaventure and Loyola Marymount this past year.
-As it stands now, our projected starting lineup averaged 25 ppg last year.
To be fair, there is only one spot, so it does not matter who he misses on, only who he gets.
My god, I hope it's not St. Mary's.
Dont care
Go Bears!
How about UCSD and playing with Bradley again?
Nah the "proven winner" part.HearstMining said:I hope it's not the other college that starts with an "S" - down the Peninsula . . .BC Calfan said:That coach description is everything our current coach is not.4thGenCal said:There is now two available, good luck to Andre Kelly as He will shortly announce his transfer decision. Hint - a coach who is a proven winner, put players in the NBA, has strong local ties and has gone to tournament.4thGenCal said:My understanding is that there is one now and only another opens up, if Kelly does not come back.KoreAmBear said:That would be interesting if we got Dre back and we have DJ's (medical retirement - aw man I was hoping for some good play from him) and Klonara's schollys available to use?4thGenCal said:DJ Thorpe scholarship is open (he keeps his aid due to medical retirement) and while Andre Kelly has been a longer shot to stay, its become close to 50/50 on him staying. Teammates are weighing on him and Coach Fox is trying to stir up a reasonable NIL deal. Interesting how roster's can swing some in fairly short time. Coach as it is required/expected, is out aggressively on the recruiting trail ie was in Indy over the weekend, to watch the Oakland Soldiers play. Still the many misses continues to be disappointing.sluggo said:He should be extended, since how is he supposed to succeed without a point guard?BC Calfan said:
-Fox is entering his 4th year with the program and has not brought in a point guard.
-We have lost recruits to St. Mary's, St. Bonaventure and Loyola Marymount this past year.
-As it stands now, our projected starting lineup averaged 25 ppg last year.
To be fair, there is only one spot, so it does not matter who he misses on, only who he gets.
My god, I hope it's not St. Mary's.
That would be awesome if they both transferred to UCSD.3Cats4CAL said:
How about UCSD and playing with Bradley again?
BC Calfan said:That coach description is everything our current coach is not.4thGenCal said:There is now two available, good luck to Andre Kelly as He will shortly announce his transfer decision. Hint - a coach who is a proven winner, put players in the NBA, has strong local ties and has gone to tournament.4thGenCal said:My understanding is that there is one now and only another opens up, if Kelly does not come back.KoreAmBear said:That would be interesting if we got Dre back and we have DJ's (medical retirement - aw man I was hoping for some good play from him) and Klonara's schollys available to use?4thGenCal said:DJ Thorpe scholarship is open (he keeps his aid due to medical retirement) and while Andre Kelly has been a longer shot to stay, its become close to 50/50 on him staying. Teammates are weighing on him and Coach Fox is trying to stir up a reasonable NIL deal. Interesting how roster's can swing some in fairly short time. Coach as it is required/expected, is out aggressively on the recruiting trail ie was in Indy over the weekend, to watch the Oakland Soldiers play. Still the many misses continues to be disappointing.sluggo said:He should be extended, since how is he supposed to succeed without a point guard?BC Calfan said:
-Fox is entering his 4th year with the program and has not brought in a point guard.
-We have lost recruits to St. Mary's, St. Bonaventure and Loyola Marymount this past year.
-As it stands now, our projected starting lineup averaged 25 ppg last year.
To be fair, there is only one spot, so it does not matter who he misses on, only who he gets.
My god, I hope it's not St. Mary's.
That's what I was thinking, as an alternative to Santa Barbara. That or Montana. If he's going to grad transfer, hey that is his right, best wishes, but I don't want him playing for a conference or area rival.
Isnt Bradley out of eligibility?
Go Bears!
Bradley can play another year, if he chooses, because of "the COVID year".
Big C said:
Bradley can play another year, if he chooses, because of "the COVID year".
Bradley, Kelly, Vanover and Gordon were all freshmen together in Wyking's second/last year (2018-2019)
But wait. They are all going to the nba.
Go Bears!
Congrats to Andre Kelly on a great move to @UCSBbasketball. He’s obviously thrilled to be headed there. Wishing him all the best. https://t.co/b9ARlSRQoY
— Eric McDonough (@McDonoughEric) May 4, 2022
Embarrassing for us that Santa Barbara is a preferred place over Cal now. Congrats to Andre. Wonder what Knowlton thinks about our star player preferring to play at UCSB over Cal? Probably attributes it to COVID.
Maybe Knowlton thinks it's fine for Santa Barbara to have a better basketball team than Berkeley. As long as we're meeting his standards for excellence.
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