Is Cal disadvantaged in the transfer market?

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HoopDreams
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Before Cal was disadvantaged in the grad transfer market due to very strict admissions and no one year programs

We still are disadvantaged there with high admissions standards but the one year post-grad certificate program helps

But are we also disadvantaged in the general transfer market?

Not just because of the academic grades admissions standards, but also because of core class eligibility?

For example, Cal's higher foreign language requirement?
tequila4kapp
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Maybe but IMO this is WAY WAY down on the list of our problems.
concernedparent
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We're disadvantaged because we're a moribund program with a coach who still thinks its 2005.
mbBear
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HoopDreams said:

Before Cal was disadvantaged in the grad transfer market due to very strict admissions and no one year programs

We still are disadvantaged there with high admissions standards but the one year post-grad certificate program helps

But are we also disadvantaged in the general transfer market?

Not just because of the academic grades admissions standards, but also because of core class eligibility?

For example, Cal's higher foreign language requirement?
I think the real answer "we don't know." Once they get to .500 or even better close to making the tournament, then you can see how this progresses. But right, the post-grad program was huge..
calumnus
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mbBear said:

HoopDreams said:

Before Cal was disadvantaged in the grad transfer market due to very strict admissions and no one year programs

We still are disadvantaged there with high admissions standards but the one year post-grad certificate program helps

But are we also disadvantaged in the general transfer market?

Not just because of the academic grades admissions standards, but also because of core class eligibility?

For example, Cal's higher foreign language requirement?
I think the real answer "we don't know." Once they get to .500 or even better close to making the tournament, then you can see how this progresses. But right, the post-grad program was huge..


The post grad program would have been "huge" if we had it at the beginning of the grad transfer rule. Unfortunately it took us years to get in place, just in time for the Transfer Portal to become far more important. I suspect that academics are an issue for transfers, but we don't know. We have lost far more talent to the Portal than we have brought in, even though the transfers in have a played a huge role on the team.
stu
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Whether freshmen, undergrad transfers, or grad transfers most good players aren't likely to be interested in a program consistently battling for 10th, 11th, and 12 place with no indication of improvement. And if there's a problem with a coach it doesn't look like the department will be of any help.
HoopDreams
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Would be a boost if we added a social media certificate and/or sports management certificate program

Both are big and growing industries and legit fields of study
Econ141
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What the heck are "certificates?" Just create a bunch of these useless things and get some ballers in here!
HoopDreams
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fat_slice said:

What the heck are "certificates?" Just create a bunch of these useless things and get some ballers in here!


Isn't that what these one year post grad programs called?
Big C
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HoopDreams said:

fat_slice said:

What the heck are "certificates?" Just create a bunch of these useless things and get some ballers in here!


Isn't that what these one year post grad programs called?

Yes. A year of specific, post-grad study not matriculating towards a masters or doctorate.

While an athlete can "use" this path in order to simply play another year, you can also see how a certificate -- especially one from "Berkeley" -- would look good on one's resume. For example, I believe Haas offers one and, for students not majoring in business as an undergrad, it might open a door or two. Win-win.
mbBear
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calumnus said:

mbBear said:

HoopDreams said:

Before Cal was disadvantaged in the grad transfer market due to very strict admissions and no one year programs

We still are disadvantaged there with high admissions standards but the one year post-grad certificate program helps

But are we also disadvantaged in the general transfer market?

Not just because of the academic grades admissions standards, but also because of core class eligibility?

For example, Cal's higher foreign language requirement?
I think the real answer "we don't know." Once they get to .500 or even better close to making the tournament, then you can see how this progresses. But right, the post-grad program was huge..


The post grad program would have been "huge" if we had it at the beginning of the grad transfer rule. Unfortunately it took us years to get in place, just in time for the Transfer Portal to become far more important. I suspect that academics are an issue for transfers, but we don't know. We have lost far more talent to the Portal than we have brought in, even though the transfers in have a played a huge role on the team.
I certainly meant for all sports. It took some work to get it. Right, don't know if it helps hoops.
wifeisafurd
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The football team will have Portal transfer players that have prominent roles this season, and a couple of them are expected to be on all conference teams. So whatever Wilcox is selling, it is working. Then there is Fox.
KoreAmBear
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wifeisafurd said:

The football team will have Portal transfer players that have prominent roles this season, and a couple of them are expected to be on all conference teams. So whatever Wilcox is selling, it is working. Then there is Fox.
Sirmon is gonna be a beast.
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