RIP Bill Russell

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One of the 2 best BB players I ever saw live (Elgin Baylor was the other) and arguably the greatest interior defender who ever played is gone. I was at the infamous "stall" game when Pete Newell had Joe Hagler hold the ball near mid-court for several minutes so I didn't see what anyone would call a vintage Russell effort but he was a spectacular athlete. In warmups for that game he cut his head on the rim doing a 2 hand reverse dunk! He was a master at blocking shots in a way that let him recover the ball and start his offense down the floor and was an awkward looking but effective scorer. He is a classic example of the difficulty in comparing players across different eras. Would his defensive dominance be as impactful in today's game with its emphasis on outside shooting? Off the court he was an articulate and thoughtful commentator on the game and a wide variety of topics not sports related. He will be missed.
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When I first heard Bill Russell passed away, I expected there to be more discussion about his life on this board. Specifically, I thought SFCityBear would add some of his thoughts and recollections about Bill Russell (I was looking forward to reading them as I always enjoy his posts about pre-1980s basketball* as I learn so much from them).

*I came of age in the 1980-90s and learned basketball from watching the Showtime Lakers and listening to Chick Hearn analyze the game.
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01Bear said:

When I first heard Bill Russell passed away, I expected there to be more discussion about his life on this board. Specifically, I thought SFCityBear would add some of his thoughts and recollections about Bill Russell (I was looking forward to reading them as I always enjoy his posts about pre-1980s basketball* as I learn so much from them).

*I came of age in the 1980-90s and learned basketball from watching the Showtime Lakers and listening to Chick Hearn analyze the game.


My stories are more Stanford related because my dad played the same time as Russell was at USF, including the freshman teams. My dad was Russell's roommate in NYC for the East-West All Star Game at MSG. Russell called my dad "The biggest little man in basketball."
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01Bear said:

When I first heard Bill Russell passed away, I expected there to be more discussion about his life on this board. Specifically, I thought SFCityBear would add some of his thoughts and recollections about Bill Russell (I was looking forward to reading them as I always enjoy his posts about pre-1980s basketball* as I learn so much from them).

*I came of age in the 1980-90s and learned basketball from watching the Showtime Lakers and listening to Chick Hearn analyze the game.
Not a lot of us who were Russell era contemporaries are still alive and/or sentient and fewer still active on this board!
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"Bill Russell, the greatest winner in the history of team sports and one of the most important athletes to ever live, died Sunday at 88.

By the numbers: Russell's basketball legacy is beyond well-known. Yet reviewing his jaw-dropping accomplishments never gets old.

He won a record 11 NBA titles, all with the Celtics, and was a five-time MVP.

He never lost a winner-take-all game in the playoffs and was 10-0 in Game 7s.

He was an Olympic champion, a two-time NCAA champion, the first Black coach in major American sports, and the only player-coach to win an NBA title.

He was a defensive savant who revolutionized basketball and seemed to grab virtually every rebound: 22.5 career average. 51 in one game. 49 in two others.

Of note: Russell is just the fifth NBA MVP to pass away (Wilt Chamberlain, Moses Malone, Kobe Bryant, Wes Unseld) a reminder of just how young the league is, and of how much weight its legends carry.

The big picture: It would be a disservice to remember Russell as only a basketball player. Off the court, he was a civil rights icon, a humanitarian and a gentle giant with one of the most infectious laughs ever.

He sat just feet away for Martin Luther King Jr. during his "I Have A Dream" speech. He supported Muhammad Ali when he refused to go to Vietnam.

He hated autographs, preferring instead to invite fans to have a conversation. That was Bill, according to those who knew him: endlessly curious about human nature and life itself.

What they're saying:
Family statement: "[F]or all the winning, Bill's understanding of the struggle is what illuminated his life … Bill called out injustice with an unforgiving candor that … will forever inspire teamwork, selflessness and thoughtful change."

President Biden: "Bill Russell is one of the greatest athletes in our history an all-time champion of champions, and a good man and great American who did everything he could to deliver the promise of America for all Americans."

Ray Ratto, Defector: "He is that rarest of creatures, a man who wrote two autobiographies ('Go Up For Glory' and 'Second Wind') because one could not possibly contain enough of what he did or who he was."

The last word: "If you can take something to levels that very few other people can reach, then what you're doing becomes art," Russell told SI's Frank Deford in 1999. You painted a masterpiece, Bill." Axios
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01Bear said:

When I first heard Bill Russell passed away, I expected there to be more discussion about his life on this board. Specifically, I thought SFCityBear would add some of his thoughts and recollections about Bill Russell (I was looking forward to reading them as I always enjoy his posts about pre-1980s basketball* as I learn so much from them).

*I came of age in the 1980-90s and learned basketball from watching the Showtime Lakers and listening to Chick Hearn analyze the game.
Thanks for your kind words. There is a great deal on the internet about Bill Russell, and he's written two autobiographies. I can only add what would be personal experiences of mine, growing up and learning to love and learn basketball myself in the same part of the country. Russell arrived in Oakland at the age of 8, so I assume he learned to play the game here. We must remember that in those days, the big stars for us were the college players. The NBA was still in its infancy, and far away, mostly on the Eastern seaboard, with a few teams in the Midwest. There were no NBA teams on the West Coast. There was no TV of NBA games, and very few college games were televised. So there were few great players around in the Bay Area to emulate. The NBA was really struggling financially, and very few Bay Area college players traveled East to play in the NBA, as the salaries were very low. Many of them went to play in the AAU, or entered military service, and played for one of the service teams. There was a local league for good players, with teams sponsored by Stewart Chevrolet and Rossi Florists, and others. Cal's great Andy Wolfe played for Stewart Chevrolet.

Bill Russell attended McClymonds high in Oakland, and played for coach George Powles. As a junior, Russell was a member of the JV team, and was cut from that team. As a senior, he was picked up as the 16th player on the 15-man varsity. He started a few games, but he graduated at mid-season. Without him, McClymonds went on to win the Tournament of Champions, and three of his teammates made the 5-man All-TOC team. Another teammate, Frank Robinson, who went on to become a Hall of Fame baseball player. So while Russell did not accomplish much in high school, he was at least able to start some games on a team with some of the best high school players in the Bay Area.

No colleges were interested in Russell, but USF did invite him to their campus for a visit. Russell wrote in one of his books that he came over to San Francisco by bus, and got lost, so he never found the school that day, and had to return home. When he did arrive at USF, he played on the freshman team, averaging 20 points per game.

USF did not have a gym. Home games were played in an old run-down gym on Page st. By the time Russell arrived, the city had built a new gym, Kezar Pavilion, with glass backboards and a floor that was mounted on springs, which allowed all players to jump a few inches higher than the usual gym floor. I played most of my high school games at Kezar. It was the only place where I could dunk a ball, and I did it in the very last game I played there as a senior.

Kezar was 3 blocks from our apartment. I never saw any games there, probably due to the cost of a ticket. My dad was no USF fan. He had played on the Cal Frosh team, so whatever money we had for tickets, he spent it on Cal games.

Phil Woolpert was Russell's coach at USF. Woolpert was Pete Newell's backcourt teammate at Loyola in LA. Russell and the black players on USF threatened to boycott the games unless Woolpert would give the black players more playing time, which he did. After graduating, Russell would have nothing to do with USF.

The first time I saw Russell play was on TV, a rare TV game, which was the "stall" game. A low point in Newell's career. But Cal had only one long range shooter, Larry Friend, so there was probably nothing else to do against the great USF team, which would go on to win its 2nd straight NCAA title.

In high school, I played one summer for the St Agnes Youth Center. It was an undersized gym, with no seating other than a built-in bench on both sidelines, so when you sat on it, your feet would be inside the boundary of the court. In the summers, there were great pickup games, where the best players from all over the Bay Area would come to play, Meschery, LaCour, Shelby Dirks, Gene Womack, LaRoy Doss, Abe Woodson and Gary Lewis of the 49ers, and KC Jones and Hal Perry of USF. One day, the director announced that the center would be closed for a week (or two, I don't remember), because Bill Russell, and KC Jones, both now big NBA stars playing for the Celtics, had reserved it for their basketball skills camp. The kids would pay $100 each. All of us kids were upset. This was a lower class to lower middle class neighborhood, and most of us kids didn't have two quarters to rub together. Where were we going to get $100, and where were we going to go to find a gym with good competition? These two big stars, with all their money - didn't they remember where they grew up, the poor kids they once were? So the white kids with the wealthy parents from all over town and beyond began showing up at our little gym, and we resented it. But we were kids, and soon forgot the offense. They were idols, these players. After I graduated high school, I got into a pickup game at St Agnes with that very same KC Jones. He had just been named starting point guard for the Celtics, and he realized he could do anything he wanted with me on the court, but he chose mostly to take it easy, and not embarrass me. A real gentleman.

Before the Philadelphia Warriors moved the franchise to the West Coast, they agreed to play an NBA league game at the Cow Palace in SF. It was the first time I saw Russell in a game in person. Russell had said in the newspaper before the game that Wilt was averaging 45 points and what he needed to do was hold Wilt to 41 or 42 points to give the Celtics a chance to win. He held him to 38, and even though Heinsohn scored 44 points, the Warriors won by 2 or 3 points. We sat in the 2nd row behind one basket, so we were about 12 feet away from the basket when the ball was at our end of the floor, so watching Russell guard a man much bigger, taller, stronger, and faster, was fascinating. Russell once said in an interview that he never played Wilt the same way twice. He had to try and play him differently every game, to try and keep him guessing or frustrated. Wilt once told Russell, "You were a better player than I was, because you made all your teammates better. My teammates all made me a better player."

Russell said that he studied all his opponents' shooting, especially where they usually missed (short, long, left, right) When he faced an opponent, he already knew that if he missed his shot, he would know exactly where the most likely missed shot would go, so he would be in the best position to rebound the miss. Maybe the smartest player who ever played.

I was visiting Boston a couple of years after I graduated, and doing some sightseeing. I was looking for the Boston Garden, when I saw Russell and KC Jones walking on the other side of the street. Russell was only 6-9 or 6-10, but he towered over the crowd.






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01Bear said:

When I first heard Bill Russell passed away, I expected there to be more discussion about his life on this board. Specifically, I thought SFCityBear would add some of his thoughts and recollections about Bill Russell (I was looking forward to reading them as I always enjoy his posts about pre-1980s basketball* as I learn so much from them).

*I came of age in the 1980-90s and learned basketball from watching the Showtime Lakers and listening to Chick Hearn analyze the game.
Thanks for your kind words. There is a great deal on the internet about Bill Russell, and he's written two autobiographies. I can only add what would be personal experiences of mine, growing up and learning to love and learn basketball myself in the same part of the country. Russell arrived in Oakland at the age of 8, so I assume he learned to play the game here. We must remember that in those days, the big stars for us were the college players. The NBA was still in its infancy, and far away, mostly on the Eastern seaboard, with a few teams in the Midwest. There were no NBA teams on the West Coast. There was no TV of NBA games, and very few college games were televised. So there were few great players around in the Bay Area to emulate. The NBA was really struggling financially, and very few Bay Area college players traveled East to play in the NBA, as the salaries were very low. Many of them went to play in the AAU, or entered military service, and played for one of the service teams. There was a local league for good players, with teams sponsored by Stewart Chevrolet and Rossi Florists, and others. Cal's great Andy Wolfe played for Stewart Chevrolet.

Bill Russell attended McClymonds high in Oakland, and played for coach George Powles. As a junior, Russell was a member of the JV team, and was cut from that team. As a senior, he was picked up as the 16th player on the 15-man varsity. He started a few games, but he graduated at mid-season. Without him, McClymonds went on to win the Tournament of Champions, and three of his teammates made the 5-man All-TOC team. Another teammate, Frank Robinson, who went on to become a Hall of Fame baseball player. So while Russell did not accomplish much in high school, he was at least able to start some games on a team with some of the best high school players in the Bay Area.

No colleges were interested in Russell, but USF did invite him to their campus for a visit. Russell wrote in one of his books that he came over to San Francisco by bus, and got lost, so he never found the school that day, and had to return home. When he did arrive at USF, he played on the freshman team, averaging 20 points per game.

USF did not have a gym. Home games were played in an old run-down gym on Page st. By the time Russell arrived, the city had built a new gym, Kezar Pavilion, with glass backboards and a floor that was mounted on springs, which allowed all players to jump a few inches higher than the usual gym floor. I played most of my high school games at Kezar. It was the only place where I could dunk a ball, and I did it in the very last game I played there as a senior.

Kezar was 3 blocks from our apartment. I never saw any games there, probably due to the cost of a ticket. My dad was no USF fan. He had played on the Cal Frosh team, so whatever money we had for tickets, he spent it on Cal games.

Phil Woolpert was Russell's coach at USF. Woolpert was Pete Newell's backcourt teammate at Loyola in LA. Russell and the black players on USF threatened to boycott the games unless Woolpert would give the black players more playing time, which he did. After graduating, Russell would have nothing to do with USF.

The first time I saw Russell play was on TV, a rare TV game, which was the "stall" game. A low point in Newell's career. But Cal had only one long range shooter, Larry Friend, so there was probably nothing else to do against the great USF team, which would go on to win its 2nd straight NCAA title.

In high school, I played one summer for the St Agnes Youth Center. It was an undersized gym, with no seating other than a built-in bench on both sidelines, so when you sat on it, your feet would be inside the boundary of the court. In the summers, there were great pickup games, where the best players from all over the Bay Area would come to play, Meschery, LaCour, Shelby Dirks, Gene Womack, LaRoy Doss, Abe Woodson and Gary Lewis of the 49ers, and KC Jones and Hal Perry of USF. One day, the director announced that the center would be closed for a week (or two, I don't remember), because Bill Russell, and KC Jones, both now big NBA stars playing for the Celtics, had reserved it for their basketball skills camp. The kids would pay $100 each. All of us kids were upset. This was a lower class to lower middle class neighborhood, and most of us kids didn't have two quarters to rub together. Where were we going to get $100, and where were we going to go to find a gym with good competition? These two big stars, with all their money - didn't they remember where they grew up, the poor kids they once were? So the white kids with the wealthy parents from all over town and beyond began showing up at our little gym, and we resented it. But we were kids, and soon forgot the offense. They were idols, these players. After I graduated high school, I got into a pickup game at St Agnes with that very same KC Jones. He had just been named starting point guard for the Celtics, and he realized he could do anything he wanted with me on the court, but he chose mostly to take it easy, and not embarrass me. A real gentleman.

Before the Philadelphia Warriors moved the franchise to the West Coast, they agreed to play an NBA league game at the Cow Palace in SF. It was the first time I saw Russell in a game in person. Russell had said in the newspaper before the game that Wilt was averaging 45 points and what he needed to do was hold Wilt to 41 or 42 points to give the Celtics a chance to win. He held him to 38, and even though Heinsohn scored 44 points, the Warriors won by 2 or 3 points. We sat in the 2nd row behind one basket, so we were about 12 feet away from the basket when the ball was at our end of the floor, so watching Russell guard a man much bigger, taller, stronger, and faster, was fascinating. Russell once said in an interview that he never played Wilt the same way twice. He had to try and play him differently every game, to try and keep him guessing or frustrated. Wilt once told Russell, "You were a better player than I was, because you made all your teammates better. My teammates all made me a better player."

Russell said that he studied all his opponents' shooting, especially where they usually missed (short, long, left, right) When he faced an opponent, he already knew that if he missed his shot, he would know exactly where the most likely missed shot would go, so he would be in the best position to rebound the miss. Maybe the smartest player who ever played.

I was visiting Boston a couple of years after I graduated, and doing some sightseeing. I was looking for the Boston Garden, when I saw Russell and KC Jones walking on the other side of the street. Russell was only 6-9 or 6-10, but he towered over the crowd.



Thanks for this, SFCB! It was pretty much exactly what I was hoping to read. It provides so much more context not just to basketball in that era, but also a very human touch with how you were personally affected. I very much enjoy reading your posts about Bay Area sports (especially basketball) from an era I never got to know.
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01Bear said:

SFCityBear said:

01Bear said:

When I first heard Bill Russell passed away, I expected there to be more discussion about his life on this board. Specifically, I thought SFCityBear would add some of his thoughts and recollections about Bill Russell (I was looking forward to reading them as I always enjoy his posts about pre-1980s basketball* as I learn so much from them).

*I came of age in the 1980-90s and learned basketball from watching the Showtime Lakers and listening to Chick Hearn analyze the game.
Thanks for your kind words. There is a great deal on the internet about Bill Russell, and he's written two autobiographies. I can only add what would be personal experiences of mine, growing up and learning to love and learn basketball myself in the same part of the country. Russell arrived in Oakland at the age of 8, so I assume he learned to play the game here. We must remember that in those days, the big stars for us were the college players. The NBA was still in its infancy, and far away, mostly on the Eastern seaboard, with a few teams in the Midwest. There were no NBA teams on the West Coast. There was no TV of NBA games, and very few college games were televised. So there were few great players around in the Bay Area to emulate. The NBA was really struggling financially, and very few Bay Area college players traveled East to play in the NBA, as the salaries were very low. Many of them went to play in the AAU, or entered military service, and played for one of the service teams. There was a local league for good players, with teams sponsored by Stewart Chevrolet and Rossi Florists, and others. Cal's great Andy Wolfe played for Stewart Chevrolet.

Bill Russell attended McClymonds high in Oakland, and played for coach George Powles. As a junior, Russell was a member of the JV team, and was cut from that team. As a senior, he was picked up as the 16th player on the 15-man varsity. He started a few games, but he graduated at mid-season. Without him, McClymonds went on to win the Tournament of Champions, and three of his teammates made the 5-man All-TOC team. Another teammate, Frank Robinson, who went on to become a Hall of Fame baseball player. So while Russell did not accomplish much in high school, he was at least able to start some games on a team with some of the best high school players in the Bay Area.

No colleges were interested in Russell, but USF did invite him to their campus for a visit. Russell wrote in one of his books that he came over to San Francisco by bus, and got lost, so he never found the school that day, and had to return home. When he did arrive at USF, he played on the freshman team, averaging 20 points per game.

USF did not have a gym. Home games were played in an old run-down gym on Page st. By the time Russell arrived, the city had built a new gym, Kezar Pavilion, with glass backboards and a floor that was mounted on springs, which allowed all players to jump a few inches higher than the usual gym floor. I played most of my high school games at Kezar. It was the only place where I could dunk a ball, and I did it in the very last game I played there as a senior.

Kezar was 3 blocks from our apartment. I never saw any games there, probably due to the cost of a ticket. My dad was no USF fan. He had played on the Cal Frosh team, so whatever money we had for tickets, he spent it on Cal games.

Phil Woolpert was Russell's coach at USF. Woolpert was Pete Newell's backcourt teammate at Loyola in LA. Russell and the black players on USF threatened to boycott the games unless Woolpert would give the black players more playing time, which he did. After graduating, Russell would have nothing to do with USF.

The first time I saw Russell play was on TV, a rare TV game, which was the "stall" game. A low point in Newell's career. But Cal had only one long range shooter, Larry Friend, so there was probably nothing else to do against the great USF team, which would go on to win its 2nd straight NCAA title.

In high school, I played one summer for the St Agnes Youth Center. It was an undersized gym, with no seating other than a built-in bench on both sidelines, so when you sat on it, your feet would be inside the boundary of the court. In the summers, there were great pickup games, where the best players from all over the Bay Area would come to play, Meschery, LaCour, Shelby Dirks, Gene Womack, LaRoy Doss, Abe Woodson and Gary Lewis of the 49ers, and KC Jones and Hal Perry of USF. One day, the director announced that the center would be closed for a week (or two, I don't remember), because Bill Russell, and KC Jones, both now big NBA stars playing for the Celtics, had reserved it for their basketball skills camp. The kids would pay $100 each. All of us kids were upset. This was a lower class to lower middle class neighborhood, and most of us kids didn't have two quarters to rub together. Where were we going to get $100, and where were we going to go to find a gym with good competition? These two big stars, with all their money - didn't they remember where they grew up, the poor kids they once were? So the white kids with the wealthy parents from all over town and beyond began showing up at our little gym, and we resented it. But we were kids, and soon forgot the offense. They were idols, these players. After I graduated high school, I got into a pickup game at St Agnes with that very same KC Jones. He had just been named starting point guard for the Celtics, and he realized he could do anything he wanted with me on the court, but he chose mostly to take it easy, and not embarrass me. A real gentleman.

Before the Philadelphia Warriors moved the franchise to the West Coast, they agreed to play an NBA league game at the Cow Palace in SF. It was the first time I saw Russell in a game in person. Russell had said in the newspaper before the game that Wilt was averaging 45 points and what he needed to do was hold Wilt to 41 or 42 points to give the Celtics a chance to win. He held him to 38, and even though Heinsohn scored 44 points, the Warriors won by 2 or 3 points. We sat in the 2nd row behind one basket, so we were about 12 feet away from the basket when the ball was at our end of the floor, so watching Russell guard a man much bigger, taller, stronger, and faster, was fascinating. Russell once said in an interview that he never played Wilt the same way twice. He had to try and play him differently every game, to try and keep him guessing or frustrated. Wilt once told Russell, "You were a better player than I was, because you made all your teammates better. My teammates all made me a better player."

Russell said that he studied all his opponents' shooting, especially where they usually missed (short, long, left, right) When he faced an opponent, he already knew that if he missed his shot, he would know exactly where the most likely missed shot would go, so he would be in the best position to rebound the miss. Maybe the smartest player who ever played.

I was visiting Boston a couple of years after I graduated, and doing some sightseeing. I was looking for the Boston Garden, when I saw Russell and KC Jones walking on the other side of the street. Russell was only 6-9 or 6-10, but he towered over the crowd.



Thanks for this, SFCB! It was pretty much exactly what I was hoping to read. It provides so much more context not just to basketball in that era, but also a very human touch with how you were personally affected. I very much enjoy reading your posts about Bay Area sports (especially basketball) from an era I never got to know.
You're welcome. A big thing to remember about Bill Russell is that he was the first player to play above the rim at both ends of the court. It completely changed the game of basketball.
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01Bear said:

SFCityBear said:

01Bear said:

When I first heard Bill Russell passed away, I expected there to be more discussion about his life on this board. Specifically, I thought SFCityBear would add some of his thoughts and recollections about Bill Russell (I was looking forward to reading them as I always enjoy his posts about pre-1980s basketball* as I learn so much from them).

*I came of age in the 1980-90s and learned basketball from watching the Showtime Lakers and listening to Chick Hearn analyze the game.
Thanks for your kind words. There is a great deal on the internet about Bill Russell, and he's written two autobiographies. I can only add what would be personal experiences of mine, growing up and learning to love and learn basketball myself in the same part of the country. Russell arrived in Oakland at the age of 8, so I assume he learned to play the game here. We must remember that in those days, the big stars for us were the college players. The NBA was still in its infancy, and far away, mostly on the Eastern seaboard, with a few teams in the Midwest. There were no NBA teams on the West Coast. There was no TV of NBA games, and very few college games were televised. So there were few great players around in the Bay Area to emulate. The NBA was really struggling financially, and very few Bay Area college players traveled East to play in the NBA, as the salaries were very low. Many of them went to play in the AAU, or entered military service, and played for one of the service teams. There was a local league for good players, with teams sponsored by Stewart Chevrolet and Rossi Florists, and others. Cal's great Andy Wolfe played for Stewart Chevrolet.

Bill Russell attended McClymonds high in Oakland, and played for coach George Powles. As a junior, Russell was a member of the JV team, and was cut from that team. As a senior, he was picked up as the 16th player on the 15-man varsity. He started a few games, but he graduated at mid-season. Without him, McClymonds went on to win the Tournament of Champions, and three of his teammates made the 5-man All-TOC team. Another teammate, Frank Robinson, who went on to become a Hall of Fame baseball player. So while Russell did not accomplish much in high school, he was at least able to start some games on a team with some of the best high school players in the Bay Area.

No colleges were interested in Russell, but USF did invite him to their campus for a visit. Russell wrote in one of his books that he came over to San Francisco by bus, and got lost, so he never found the school that day, and had to return home. When he did arrive at USF, he played on the freshman team, averaging 20 points per game.

USF did not have a gym. Home games were played in an old run-down gym on Page st. By the time Russell arrived, the city had built a new gym, Kezar Pavilion, with glass backboards and a floor that was mounted on springs, which allowed all players to jump a few inches higher than the usual gym floor. I played most of my high school games at Kezar. It was the only place where I could dunk a ball, and I did it in the very last game I played there as a senior.

Kezar was 3 blocks from our apartment. I never saw any games there, probably due to the cost of a ticket. My dad was no USF fan. He had played on the Cal Frosh team, so whatever money we had for tickets, he spent it on Cal games.

Phil Woolpert was Russell's coach at USF. Woolpert was Pete Newell's backcourt teammate at Loyola in LA. Russell and the black players on USF threatened to boycott the games unless Woolpert would give the black players more playing time, which he did. After graduating, Russell would have nothing to do with USF.

The first time I saw Russell play was on TV, a rare TV game, which was the "stall" game. A low point in Newell's career. But Cal had only one long range shooter, Larry Friend, so there was probably nothing else to do against the great USF team, which would go on to win its 2nd straight NCAA title.

In high school, I played one summer for the St Agnes Youth Center. It was an undersized gym, with no seating other than a built-in bench on both sidelines, so when you sat on it, your feet would be inside the boundary of the court. In the summers, there were great pickup games, where the best players from all over the Bay Area would come to play, Meschery, LaCour, Shelby Dirks, Gene Womack, LaRoy Doss, Abe Woodson and Gary Lewis of the 49ers, and KC Jones and Hal Perry of USF. One day, the director announced that the center would be closed for a week (or two, I don't remember), because Bill Russell, and KC Jones, both now big NBA stars playing for the Celtics, had reserved it for their basketball skills camp. The kids would pay $100 each. All of us kids were upset. This was a lower class to lower middle class neighborhood, and most of us kids didn't have two quarters to rub together. Where were we going to get $100, and where were we going to go to find a gym with good competition? These two big stars, with all their money - didn't they remember where they grew up, the poor kids they once were? So the white kids with the wealthy parents from all over town and beyond began showing up at our little gym, and we resented it. But we were kids, and soon forgot the offense. They were idols, these players. After I graduated high school, I got into a pickup game at St Agnes with that very same KC Jones. He had just been named starting point guard for the Celtics, and he realized he could do anything he wanted with me on the court, but he chose mostly to take it easy, and not embarrass me. A real gentleman.

Before the Philadelphia Warriors moved the franchise to the West Coast, they agreed to play an NBA league game at the Cow Palace in SF. It was the first time I saw Russell in a game in person. Russell had said in the newspaper before the game that Wilt was averaging 45 points and what he needed to do was hold Wilt to 41 or 42 points to give the Celtics a chance to win. He held him to 38, and even though Heinsohn scored 44 points, the Warriors won by 2 or 3 points. We sat in the 2nd row behind one basket, so we were about 12 feet away from the basket when the ball was at our end of the floor, so watching Russell guard a man much bigger, taller, stronger, and faster, was fascinating. Russell once said in an interview that he never played Wilt the same way twice. He had to try and play him differently every game, to try and keep him guessing or frustrated. Wilt once told Russell, "You were a better player than I was, because you made all your teammates better. My teammates all made me a better player."

Russell said that he studied all his opponents' shooting, especially where they usually missed (short, long, left, right) When he faced an opponent, he already knew that if he missed his shot, he would know exactly where the most likely missed shot would go, so he would be in the best position to rebound the miss. Maybe the smartest player who ever played.

I was visiting Boston a couple of years after I graduated, and doing some sightseeing. I was looking for the Boston Garden, when I saw Russell and KC Jones walking on the other side of the street. Russell was only 6-9 or 6-10, but he towered over the crowd.



Thanks for this, SFCB! It was pretty much exactly what I was hoping to read. It provides so much more context not just to basketball in that era, but also a very human touch with how you were personally affected. I very much enjoy reading your posts about Bay Area sports (especially basketball) from an era I never got to know.
You're welcome. A big thing to remember about Bill Russell is that he was the first player to play above the rim at both ends of the court. It completely changed the game of basketball.
You might find some who would put Bob Kurland, from (then) Oklahoma A&M in the mid 1940s in this category.
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01Bear said:

SFCityBear said:

01Bear said:

When I first heard Bill Russell passed away, I expected there to be more discussion about his life on this board. Specifically, I thought SFCityBear would add some of his thoughts and recollections about Bill Russell (I was looking forward to reading them as I always enjoy his posts about pre-1980s basketball* as I learn so much from them).

*I came of age in the 1980-90s and learned basketball from watching the Showtime Lakers and listening to Chick Hearn analyze the game.
Thanks for your kind words. There is a great deal on the internet about Bill Russell, and he's written two autobiographies. I can only add what would be personal experiences of mine, growing up and learning to love and learn basketball myself in the same part of the country. Russell arrived in Oakland at the age of 8, so I assume he learned to play the game here. We must remember that in those days, the big stars for us were the college players. The NBA was still in its infancy, and far away, mostly on the Eastern seaboard, with a few teams in the Midwest. There were no NBA teams on the West Coast. There was no TV of NBA games, and very few college games were televised. So there were few great players around in the Bay Area to emulate. The NBA was really struggling financially, and very few Bay Area college players traveled East to play in the NBA, as the salaries were very low. Many of them went to play in the AAU, or entered military service, and played for one of the service teams. There was a local league for good players, with teams sponsored by Stewart Chevrolet and Rossi Florists, and others. Cal's great Andy Wolfe played for Stewart Chevrolet.

Bill Russell attended McClymonds high in Oakland, and played for coach George Powles. As a junior, Russell was a member of the JV team, and was cut from that team. As a senior, he was picked up as the 16th player on the 15-man varsity. He started a few games, but he graduated at mid-season. Without him, McClymonds went on to win the Tournament of Champions, and three of his teammates made the 5-man All-TOC team. Another teammate, Frank Robinson, who went on to become a Hall of Fame baseball player. So while Russell did not accomplish much in high school, he was at least able to start some games on a team with some of the best high school players in the Bay Area.

No colleges were interested in Russell, but USF did invite him to their campus for a visit. Russell wrote in one of his books that he came over to San Francisco by bus, and got lost, so he never found the school that day, and had to return home. When he did arrive at USF, he played on the freshman team, averaging 20 points per game.

USF did not have a gym. Home games were played in an old run-down gym on Page st. By the time Russell arrived, the city had built a new gym, Kezar Pavilion, with glass backboards and a floor that was mounted on springs, which allowed all players to jump a few inches higher than the usual gym floor. I played most of my high school games at Kezar. It was the only place where I could dunk a ball, and I did it in the very last game I played there as a senior.

Kezar was 3 blocks from our apartment. I never saw any games there, probably due to the cost of a ticket. My dad was no USF fan. He had played on the Cal Frosh team, so whatever money we had for tickets, he spent it on Cal games.

Phil Woolpert was Russell's coach at USF. Woolpert was Pete Newell's backcourt teammate at Loyola in LA. Russell and the black players on USF threatened to boycott the games unless Woolpert would give the black players more playing time, which he did. After graduating, Russell would have nothing to do with USF.

The first time I saw Russell play was on TV, a rare TV game, which was the "stall" game. A low point in Newell's career. But Cal had only one long range shooter, Larry Friend, so there was probably nothing else to do against the great USF team, which would go on to win its 2nd straight NCAA title.

In high school, I played one summer for the St Agnes Youth Center. It was an undersized gym, with no seating other than a built-in bench on both sidelines, so when you sat on it, your feet would be inside the boundary of the court. In the summers, there were great pickup games, where the best players from all over the Bay Area would come to play, Meschery, LaCour, Shelby Dirks, Gene Womack, LaRoy Doss, Abe Woodson and Gary Lewis of the 49ers, and KC Jones and Hal Perry of USF. One day, the director announced that the center would be closed for a week (or two, I don't remember), because Bill Russell, and KC Jones, both now big NBA stars playing for the Celtics, had reserved it for their basketball skills camp. The kids would pay $100 each. All of us kids were upset. This was a lower class to lower middle class neighborhood, and most of us kids didn't have two quarters to rub together. Where were we going to get $100, and where were we going to go to find a gym with good competition? These two big stars, with all their money - didn't they remember where they grew up, the poor kids they once were? So the white kids with the wealthy parents from all over town and beyond began showing up at our little gym, and we resented it. But we were kids, and soon forgot the offense. They were idols, these players. After I graduated high school, I got into a pickup game at St Agnes with that very same KC Jones. He had just been named starting point guard for the Celtics, and he realized he could do anything he wanted with me on the court, but he chose mostly to take it easy, and not embarrass me. A real gentleman.

Before the Philadelphia Warriors moved the franchise to the West Coast, they agreed to play an NBA league game at the Cow Palace in SF. It was the first time I saw Russell in a game in person. Russell had said in the newspaper before the game that Wilt was averaging 45 points and what he needed to do was hold Wilt to 41 or 42 points to give the Celtics a chance to win. He held him to 38, and even though Heinsohn scored 44 points, the Warriors won by 2 or 3 points. We sat in the 2nd row behind one basket, so we were about 12 feet away from the basket when the ball was at our end of the floor, so watching Russell guard a man much bigger, taller, stronger, and faster, was fascinating. Russell once said in an interview that he never played Wilt the same way twice. He had to try and play him differently every game, to try and keep him guessing or frustrated. Wilt once told Russell, "You were a better player than I was, because you made all your teammates better. My teammates all made me a better player."

Russell said that he studied all his opponents' shooting, especially where they usually missed (short, long, left, right) When he faced an opponent, he already knew that if he missed his shot, he would know exactly where the most likely missed shot would go, so he would be in the best position to rebound the miss. Maybe the smartest player who ever played.

I was visiting Boston a couple of years after I graduated, and doing some sightseeing. I was looking for the Boston Garden, when I saw Russell and KC Jones walking on the other side of the street. Russell was only 6-9 or 6-10, but he towered over the crowd.



Thanks for this, SFCB! It was pretty much exactly what I was hoping to read. It provides so much more context not just to basketball in that era, but also a very human touch with how you were personally affected. I very much enjoy reading your posts about Bay Area sports (especially basketball) from an era I never got to know.
You're welcome. A big thing to remember about Bill Russell is that he was the first player to play above the rim at both ends of the court. It completely changed the game of basketball.
I am not old enough to have seen Russell in his day, but I have watched him on youtube. He was as light on his feet as any player I have ever seen, and his timing was amazing. Guys would get inside and he would lock eyes with them. The message was that their shot was getting blocked, the only question was when.

I just learned that he was a short-lived by amazing high jumper. 6'9.25 using a forward roll and without training is crazy. See https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Bill-Russell-s-66-year-old-University-of-San-17352796.php

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59bear said:

SFCityBear said:

01Bear said:

SFCityBear said:

01Bear said:

When I first heard Bill Russell passed away, I expected there to be more discussion about his life on this board. Specifically, I thought SFCityBear would add some of his thoughts and recollections about Bill Russell (I was looking forward to reading them as I always enjoy his posts about pre-1980s basketball* as I learn so much from them).

*I came of age in the 1980-90s and learned basketball from watching the Showtime Lakers and listening to Chick Hearn analyze the game.
Thanks for your kind words. There is a great deal on the internet about Bill Russell, and he's written two autobiographies. I can only add what would be personal experiences of mine, growing up and learning to love and learn basketball myself in the same part of the country. Russell arrived in Oakland at the age of 8, so I assume he learned to play the game here. We must remember that in those days, the big stars for us were the college players. The NBA was still in its infancy, and far away, mostly on the Eastern seaboard, with a few teams in the Midwest. There were no NBA teams on the West Coast. There was no TV of NBA games, and very few college games were televised. So there were few great players around in the Bay Area to emulate. The NBA was really struggling financially, and very few Bay Area college players traveled East to play in the NBA, as the salaries were very low. Many of them went to play in the AAU, or entered military service, and played for one of the service teams. There was a local league for good players, with teams sponsored by Stewart Chevrolet and Rossi Florists, and others. Cal's great Andy Wolfe played for Stewart Chevrolet.

Bill Russell attended McClymonds high in Oakland, and played for coach George Powles. As a junior, Russell was a member of the JV team, and was cut from that team. As a senior, he was picked up as the 16th player on the 15-man varsity. He started a few games, but he graduated at mid-season. Without him, McClymonds went on to win the Tournament of Champions, and three of his teammates made the 5-man All-TOC team. Another teammate, Frank Robinson, who went on to become a Hall of Fame baseball player. So while Russell did not accomplish much in high school, he was at least able to start some games on a team with some of the best high school players in the Bay Area.

No colleges were interested in Russell, but USF did invite him to their campus for a visit. Russell wrote in one of his books that he came over to San Francisco by bus, and got lost, so he never found the school that day, and had to return home. When he did arrive at USF, he played on the freshman team, averaging 20 points per game.

USF did not have a gym. Home games were played in an old run-down gym on Page st. By the time Russell arrived, the city had built a new gym, Kezar Pavilion, with glass backboards and a floor that was mounted on springs, which allowed all players to jump a few inches higher than the usual gym floor. I played most of my high school games at Kezar. It was the only place where I could dunk a ball, and I did it in the very last game I played there as a senior.

Kezar was 3 blocks from our apartment. I never saw any games there, probably due to the cost of a ticket. My dad was no USF fan. He had played on the Cal Frosh team, so whatever money we had for tickets, he spent it on Cal games.

Phil Woolpert was Russell's coach at USF. Woolpert was Pete Newell's backcourt teammate at Loyola in LA. Russell and the black players on USF threatened to boycott the games unless Woolpert would give the black players more playing time, which he did. After graduating, Russell would have nothing to do with USF.

The first time I saw Russell play was on TV, a rare TV game, which was the "stall" game. A low point in Newell's career. But Cal had only one long range shooter, Larry Friend, so there was probably nothing else to do against the great USF team, which would go on to win its 2nd straight NCAA title.

In high school, I played one summer for the St Agnes Youth Center. It was an undersized gym, with no seating other than a built-in bench on both sidelines, so when you sat on it, your feet would be inside the boundary of the court. In the summers, there were great pickup games, where the best players from all over the Bay Area would come to play, Meschery, LaCour, Shelby Dirks, Gene Womack, LaRoy Doss, Abe Woodson and Gary Lewis of the 49ers, and KC Jones and Hal Perry of USF. One day, the director announced that the center would be closed for a week (or two, I don't remember), because Bill Russell, and KC Jones, both now big NBA stars playing for the Celtics, had reserved it for their basketball skills camp. The kids would pay $100 each. All of us kids were upset. This was a lower class to lower middle class neighborhood, and most of us kids didn't have two quarters to rub together. Where were we going to get $100, and where were we going to go to find a gym with good competition? These two big stars, with all their money - didn't they remember where they grew up, the poor kids they once were? So the white kids with the wealthy parents from all over town and beyond began showing up at our little gym, and we resented it. But we were kids, and soon forgot the offense. They were idols, these players. After I graduated high school, I got into a pickup game at St Agnes with that very same KC Jones. He had just been named starting point guard for the Celtics, and he realized he could do anything he wanted with me on the court, but he chose mostly to take it easy, and not embarrass me. A real gentleman.

Before the Philadelphia Warriors moved the franchise to the West Coast, they agreed to play an NBA league game at the Cow Palace in SF. It was the first time I saw Russell in a game in person. Russell had said in the newspaper before the game that Wilt was averaging 45 points and what he needed to do was hold Wilt to 41 or 42 points to give the Celtics a chance to win. He held him to 38, and even though Heinsohn scored 44 points, the Warriors won by 2 or 3 points. We sat in the 2nd row behind one basket, so we were about 12 feet away from the basket when the ball was at our end of the floor, so watching Russell guard a man much bigger, taller, stronger, and faster, was fascinating. Russell once said in an interview that he never played Wilt the same way twice. He had to try and play him differently every game, to try and keep him guessing or frustrated. Wilt once told Russell, "You were a better player than I was, because you made all your teammates better. My teammates all made me a better player."

Russell said that he studied all his opponents' shooting, especially where they usually missed (short, long, left, right) When he faced an opponent, he already knew that if he missed his shot, he would know exactly where the most likely missed shot would go, so he would be in the best position to rebound the miss. Maybe the smartest player who ever played.

I was visiting Boston a couple of years after I graduated, and doing some sightseeing. I was looking for the Boston Garden, when I saw Russell and KC Jones walking on the other side of the street. Russell was only 6-9 or 6-10, but he towered over the crowd.



Thanks for this, SFCB! It was pretty much exactly what I was hoping to read. It provides so much more context not just to basketball in that era, but also a very human touch with how you were personally affected. I very much enjoy reading your posts about Bay Area sports (especially basketball) from an era I never got to know.
You're welcome. A big thing to remember about Bill Russell is that he was the first player to play above the rim at both ends of the court. It completely changed the game of basketball.
You might find some who would put Bob Kurland, from (then) Oklahoma A&M in the mid 1940s in this category.
You're right. I remember reading about Kurland. There were a few other players in the 1940s who were dunking basketballs in games. However, Russell said that he (himself) was the first player to play above the rim, and I think he was referring not just to dunking, but playing above the rim both offensively and defensively. There was no goal tending rule. If Russell was near the basket, and a teammate would put up a shot, Russell would go above the rim and guide the shot into the basket. Small disputes surfaced as to whether the shooter or Russell should be credited with making the basket. After one season of Russell and his teammates scoring lots of points in this way, the NCAA came up with the rule against offensive goal tending. Russell was also goal tending by constantly going up and blocking shots which were inside the imaginary cylinder directly above the basket, and the NCAA had to make a rule about that to keep Russell from having an unfair advantage. Maybe it was all in the same rule. I don't remember. Even after the rule changes, Russell was always soaring above the rim on his own shots and dunking, and he'd be up there on opponent shots as well, blocking the ones which were not inside the cylinder, and careful to avoid the ones that were inside it, just to let the opponent know he was there ready to block any shot. He still was pretty much alone up there in the stratosphere, until Wilt came along. Now everybody plays above the rim, or tries to.
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SFCityBear said:

59bear said:

SFCityBear said:

01Bear said:

SFCityBear said:

01Bear said:

When I first heard Bill Russell passed away, I expected there to be more discussion about his life on this board. Specifically, I thought SFCityBear would add some of his thoughts and recollections about Bill Russell (I was looking forward to reading them as I always enjoy his posts about pre-1980s basketball* as I learn so much from them).

*I came of age in the 1980-90s and learned basketball from watching the Showtime Lakers and listening to Chick Hearn analyze the game.
Thanks for your kind words. There is a great deal on the internet about Bill Russell, and he's written two autobiographies. I can only add what would be personal experiences of mine, growing up and learning to love and learn basketball myself in the same part of the country. Russell arrived in Oakland at the age of 8, so I assume he learned to play the game here. We must remember that in those days, the big stars for us were the college players. The NBA was still in its infancy, and far away, mostly on the Eastern seaboard, with a few teams in the Midwest. There were no NBA teams on the West Coast. There was no TV of NBA games, and very few college games were televised. So there were few great players around in the Bay Area to emulate. The NBA was really struggling financially, and very few Bay Area college players traveled East to play in the NBA, as the salaries were very low. Many of them went to play in the AAU, or entered military service, and played for one of the service teams. There was a local league for good players, with teams sponsored by Stewart Chevrolet and Rossi Florists, and others. Cal's great Andy Wolfe played for Stewart Chevrolet.

Bill Russell attended McClymonds high in Oakland, and played for coach George Powles. As a junior, Russell was a member of the JV team, and was cut from that team. As a senior, he was picked up as the 16th player on the 15-man varsity. He started a few games, but he graduated at mid-season. Without him, McClymonds went on to win the Tournament of Champions, and three of his teammates made the 5-man All-TOC team. Another teammate, Frank Robinson, who went on to become a Hall of Fame baseball player. So while Russell did not accomplish much in high school, he was at least able to start some games on a team with some of the best high school players in the Bay Area.

No colleges were interested in Russell, but USF did invite him to their campus for a visit. Russell wrote in one of his books that he came over to San Francisco by bus, and got lost, so he never found the school that day, and had to return home. When he did arrive at USF, he played on the freshman team, averaging 20 points per game.

USF did not have a gym. Home games were played in an old run-down gym on Page st. By the time Russell arrived, the city had built a new gym, Kezar Pavilion, with glass backboards and a floor that was mounted on springs, which allowed all players to jump a few inches higher than the usual gym floor. I played most of my high school games at Kezar. It was the only place where I could dunk a ball, and I did it in the very last game I played there as a senior.

Kezar was 3 blocks from our apartment. I never saw any games there, probably due to the cost of a ticket. My dad was no USF fan. He had played on the Cal Frosh team, so whatever money we had for tickets, he spent it on Cal games.

Phil Woolpert was Russell's coach at USF. Woolpert was Pete Newell's backcourt teammate at Loyola in LA. Russell and the black players on USF threatened to boycott the games unless Woolpert would give the black players more playing time, which he did. After graduating, Russell would have nothing to do with USF.

The first time I saw Russell play was on TV, a rare TV game, which was the "stall" game. A low point in Newell's career. But Cal had only one long range shooter, Larry Friend, so there was probably nothing else to do against the great USF team, which would go on to win its 2nd straight NCAA title.

In high school, I played one summer for the St Agnes Youth Center. It was an undersized gym, with no seating other than a built-in bench on both sidelines, so when you sat on it, your feet would be inside the boundary of the court. In the summers, there were great pickup games, where the best players from all over the Bay Area would come to play, Meschery, LaCour, Shelby Dirks, Gene Womack, LaRoy Doss, Abe Woodson and Gary Lewis of the 49ers, and KC Jones and Hal Perry of USF. One day, the director announced that the center would be closed for a week (or two, I don't remember), because Bill Russell, and KC Jones, both now big NBA stars playing for the Celtics, had reserved it for their basketball skills camp. The kids would pay $100 each. All of us kids were upset. This was a lower class to lower middle class neighborhood, and most of us kids didn't have two quarters to rub together. Where were we going to get $100, and where were we going to go to find a gym with good competition? These two big stars, with all their money - didn't they remember where they grew up, the poor kids they once were? So the white kids with the wealthy parents from all over town and beyond began showing up at our little gym, and we resented it. But we were kids, and soon forgot the offense. They were idols, these players. After I graduated high school, I got into a pickup game at St Agnes with that very same KC Jones. He had just been named starting point guard for the Celtics, and he realized he could do anything he wanted with me on the court, but he chose mostly to take it easy, and not embarrass me. A real gentleman.

Before the Philadelphia Warriors moved the franchise to the West Coast, they agreed to play an NBA league game at the Cow Palace in SF. It was the first time I saw Russell in a game in person. Russell had said in the newspaper before the game that Wilt was averaging 45 points and what he needed to do was hold Wilt to 41 or 42 points to give the Celtics a chance to win. He held him to 38, and even though Heinsohn scored 44 points, the Warriors won by 2 or 3 points. We sat in the 2nd row behind one basket, so we were about 12 feet away from the basket when the ball was at our end of the floor, so watching Russell guard a man much bigger, taller, stronger, and faster, was fascinating. Russell once said in an interview that he never played Wilt the same way twice. He had to try and play him differently every game, to try and keep him guessing or frustrated. Wilt once told Russell, "You were a better player than I was, because you made all your teammates better. My teammates all made me a better player."

Russell said that he studied all his opponents' shooting, especially where they usually missed (short, long, left, right) When he faced an opponent, he already knew that if he missed his shot, he would know exactly where the most likely missed shot would go, so he would be in the best position to rebound the miss. Maybe the smartest player who ever played.

I was visiting Boston a couple of years after I graduated, and doing some sightseeing. I was looking for the Boston Garden, when I saw Russell and KC Jones walking on the other side of the street. Russell was only 6-9 or 6-10, but he towered over the crowd.



Thanks for this, SFCB! It was pretty much exactly what I was hoping to read. It provides so much more context not just to basketball in that era, but also a very human touch with how you were personally affected. I very much enjoy reading your posts about Bay Area sports (especially basketball) from an era I never got to know.
You're welcome. A big thing to remember about Bill Russell is that he was the first player to play above the rim at both ends of the court. It completely changed the game of basketball.
You might find some who would put Bob Kurland, from (then) Oklahoma A&M in the mid 1940s in this category.
You're right. I remember reading about Kurland. There were a few other players in the 1940s who were dunking basketballs in games. However, Russell said that he (himself) was the first player to play above the rim, and I think he was referring not just to dunking, but playing above the rim both offensively and defensively. There was no goal tending rule. If Russell was near the basket, and a teammate would put up a shot, Russell would go above the rim and guide the shot into the basket. Small disputes surfaced as to whether the shooter or Russell should be credited with making the basket. After one season of Russell and his teammates scoring lots of points in this way, the NCAA came up with the rule against offensive goal tending. Russell was also goal tending by constantly going up and blocking shots which were inside the imaginary cylinder directly above the basket, and the NCAA had to make a rule about that to keep Russell from having an unfair advantage. Maybe it was all in the same rule. I don't remember. Even after the rule changes, Russell was always soaring above the rim on his own shots and dunking, and he'd be up there on opponent shots as well, blocking the ones which were not inside the cylinder, and careful to avoid the ones that were inside it, just to let the opponent know he was there ready to block any shot. He still was pretty much alone up there in the stratosphere, until Wilt came along. Now everybody plays above the rim, or tries to.
Although Russell ws largely responsible for the offensive goaltending rule, I'm pretty the defensive version of the rule came in before Russell, purportedly in response to Kurland's proficiency at swatting away shots (see wikipedia article on Kurland). Kurland had a very dominant career in his own right with 2 NCAA titles, 2 Olympic gold medals and 3 AAU titles. He never played in the NBA or any of its forerunners.

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SFCityBear said:

01Bear said:

When I first heard Bill Russell passed away, I expected there to be more discussion about his life on this board. Specifically, I thought SFCityBear would add some of his thoughts and recollections about Bill Russell (I was looking forward to reading them as I always enjoy his posts about pre-1980s basketball* as I learn so much from them).

*I came of age in the 1980-90s and learned basketball from watching the Showtime Lakers and listening to Chick Hearn analyze the game.
Thanks for your kind words. There is a great deal on the internet about Bill Russell, and he's written two autobiographies. I can only add what would be personal experiences of mine, growing up and learning to love and learn basketball myself in the same part of the country. Russell arrived in Oakland at the age of 8, so I assume he learned to play the game here. We must remember that in those days, the big stars for us were the college players. The NBA was still in its infancy, and far away, mostly on the Eastern seaboard, with a few teams in the Midwest. There were no NBA teams on the West Coast. There was no TV of NBA games, and very few college games were televised. So there were few great players around in the Bay Area to emulate. The NBA was really struggling financially, and very few Bay Area college players traveled East to play in the NBA, as the salaries were very low. Many of them went to play in the AAU, or entered military service, and played for one of the service teams. There was a local league for good players, with teams sponsored by Stewart Chevrolet and Rossi Florists, and others. Cal's great Andy Wolfe played for Stewart Chevrolet.

Bill Russell attended McClymonds high in Oakland, and played for coach George Powles. As a junior, Russell was a member of the JV team, and was cut from that team. As a senior, he was picked up as the 16th player on the 15-man varsity. He started a few games, but he graduated at mid-season. Without him, McClymonds went on to win the Tournament of Champions, and three of his teammates made the 5-man All-TOC team. Another teammate, Frank Robinson, who went on to become a Hall of Fame baseball player. So while Russell did not accomplish much in high school, he was at least able to start some games on a team with some of the best high school players in the Bay Area.

No colleges were interested in Russell, but USF did invite him to their campus for a visit. Russell wrote in one of his books that he came over to San Francisco by bus, and got lost, so he never found the school that day, and had to return home. When he did arrive at USF, he played on the freshman team, averaging 20 points per game.

USF did not have a gym. Home games were played in an old run-down gym on Page st. By the time Russell arrived, the city had built a new gym, Kezar Pavilion, with glass backboards and a floor that was mounted on springs, which allowed all players to jump a few inches higher than the usual gym floor. I played most of my high school games at Kezar. It was the only place where I could dunk a ball, and I did it in the very last game I played there as a senior.

Kezar was 3 blocks from our apartment. I never saw any games there, probably due to the cost of a ticket. My dad was no USF fan. He had played on the Cal Frosh team, so whatever money we had for tickets, he spent it on Cal games.

Phil Woolpert was Russell's coach at USF. Woolpert was Pete Newell's backcourt teammate at Loyola in LA. Russell and the black players on USF threatened to boycott the games unless Woolpert would give the black players more playing time, which he did. After graduating, Russell would have nothing to do with USF.

The first time I saw Russell play was on TV, a rare TV game, which was the "stall" game. A low point in Newell's career. But Cal had only one long range shooter, Larry Friend, so there was probably nothing else to do against the great USF team, which would go on to win its 2nd straight NCAA title.

In high school, I played one summer for the St Agnes Youth Center. It was an undersized gym, with no seating other than a built-in bench on both sidelines, so when you sat on it, your feet would be inside the boundary of the court. In the summers, there were great pickup games, where the best players from all over the Bay Area would come to play, Meschery, LaCour, Shelby Dirks, Gene Womack, LaRoy Doss, Abe Woodson and Gary Lewis of the 49ers, and KC Jones and Hal Perry of USF. One day, the director announced that the center would be closed for a week (or two, I don't remember), because Bill Russell, and KC Jones, both now big NBA stars playing for the Celtics, had reserved it for their basketball skills camp. The kids would pay $100 each. All of us kids were upset. This was a lower class to lower middle class neighborhood, and most of us kids didn't have two quarters to rub together. Where were we going to get $100, and where were we going to go to find a gym with good competition? These two big stars, with all their money - didn't they remember where they grew up, the poor kids they once were? So the white kids with the wealthy parents from all over town and beyond began showing up at our little gym, and we resented it. But we were kids, and soon forgot the offense. They were idols, these players. After I graduated high school, I got into a pickup game at St Agnes with that very same KC Jones. He had just been named starting point guard for the Celtics, and he realized he could do anything he wanted with me on the court, but he chose mostly to take it easy, and not embarrass me. A real gentleman.

Before the Philadelphia Warriors moved the franchise to the West Coast, they agreed to play an NBA league game at the Cow Palace in SF. It was the first time I saw Russell in a game in person. Russell had said in the newspaper before the game that Wilt was averaging 45 points and what he needed to do was hold Wilt to 41 or 42 points to give the Celtics a chance to win. He held him to 38, and even though Heinsohn scored 44 points, the Warriors won by 2 or 3 points. We sat in the 2nd row behind one basket, so we were about 12 feet away from the basket when the ball was at our end of the floor, so watching Russell guard a man much bigger, taller, stronger, and faster, was fascinating. Russell once said in an interview that he never played Wilt the same way twice. He had to try and play him differently every game, to try and keep him guessing or frustrated. Wilt once told Russell, "You were a better player than I was, because you made all your teammates better. My teammates all made me a better player."

Russell said that he studied all his opponents' shooting, especially where they usually missed (short, long, left, right) When he faced an opponent, he already knew that if he missed his shot, he would know exactly where the most likely missed shot would go, so he would be in the best position to rebound the miss. Maybe the smartest player who ever played.

I was visiting Boston a couple of years after I graduated, and doing some sightseeing. I was looking for the Boston Garden, when I saw Russell and KC Jones walking on the other side of the street. Russell was only 6-9 or 6-10, but he towered over the crowd.








What you say about Russell as a high school player aligns with what the basketball coach at my high school claimed, when Russell's name appeared on somebody's list of great Bay Area high school basketball players: "Bill Russell?!? He didn't do anything in high school. Don't get me wrong,. He sure made up for lost time after that!"

Too bad for me: I got into basketball as a kid not too long after Russell hung up his high tops.
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When I first heard Bill Russell passed away, I expected there to be more discussion about his life on this board. Specifically, I thought SFCityBear would add some of his thoughts and recollections about Bill Russell (I was looking forward to reading them as I always enjoy his posts about pre-1980s basketball* as I learn so much from them).

*I came of age in the 1980-90s and learned basketball from watching the Showtime Lakers and listening to Chick Hearn analyze the game.
Thanks for your kind words. There is a great deal on the internet about Bill Russell, and he's written two autobiographies. I can only add what would be personal experiences of mine, growing up and learning to love and learn basketball myself in the same part of the country. Russell arrived in Oakland at the age of 8, so I assume he learned to play the game here. We must remember that in those days, the big stars for us were the college players. The NBA was still in its infancy, and far away, mostly on the Eastern seaboard, with a few teams in the Midwest. There were no NBA teams on the West Coast. There was no TV of NBA games, and very few college games were televised. So there were few great players around in the Bay Area to emulate. The NBA was really struggling financially, and very few Bay Area college players traveled East to play in the NBA, as the salaries were very low. Many of them went to play in the AAU, or entered military service, and played for one of the service teams. There was a local league for good players, with teams sponsored by Stewart Chevrolet and Rossi Florists, and others. Cal's great Andy Wolfe played for Stewart Chevrolet.

Bill Russell attended McClymonds high in Oakland, and played for coach George Powles. As a junior, Russell was a member of the JV team, and was cut from that team. As a senior, he was picked up as the 16th player on the 15-man varsity. He started a few games, but he graduated at mid-season. Without him, McClymonds went on to win the Tournament of Champions, and three of his teammates made the 5-man All-TOC team. Another teammate, Frank Robinson, who went on to become a Hall of Fame baseball player. So while Russell did not accomplish much in high school, he was at least able to start some games on a team with some of the best high school players in the Bay Area.

No colleges were interested in Russell, but USF did invite him to their campus for a visit. Russell wrote in one of his books that he came over to San Francisco by bus, and got lost, so he never found the school that day, and had to return home. When he did arrive at USF, he played on the freshman team, averaging 20 points per game.

USF did not have a gym. Home games were played in an old run-down gym on Page st. By the time Russell arrived, the city had built a new gym, Kezar Pavilion, with glass backboards and a floor that was mounted on springs, which allowed all players to jump a few inches higher than the usual gym floor. I played most of my high school games at Kezar. It was the only place where I could dunk a ball, and I did it in the very last game I played there as a senior.

Kezar was 3 blocks from our apartment. I never saw any games there, probably due to the cost of a ticket. My dad was no USF fan. He had played on the Cal Frosh team, so whatever money we had for tickets, he spent it on Cal games.

Phil Woolpert was Russell's coach at USF. Woolpert was Pete Newell's backcourt teammate at Loyola in LA. Russell and the black players on USF threatened to boycott the games unless Woolpert would give the black players more playing time, which he did. After graduating, Russell would have nothing to do with USF.

The first time I saw Russell play was on TV, a rare TV game, which was the "stall" game. A low point in Newell's career. But Cal had only one long range shooter, Larry Friend, so there was probably nothing else to do against the great USF team, which would go on to win its 2nd straight NCAA title.

In high school, I played one summer for the St Agnes Youth Center. It was an undersized gym, with no seating other than a built-in bench on both sidelines, so when you sat on it, your feet would be inside the boundary of the court. In the summers, there were great pickup games, where the best players from all over the Bay Area would come to play, Meschery, LaCour, Shelby Dirks, Gene Womack, LaRoy Doss, Abe Woodson and Gary Lewis of the 49ers, and KC Jones and Hal Perry of USF. One day, the director announced that the center would be closed for a week (or two, I don't remember), because Bill Russell, and KC Jones, both now big NBA stars playing for the Celtics, had reserved it for their basketball skills camp. The kids would pay $100 each. All of us kids were upset. This was a lower class to lower middle class neighborhood, and most of us kids didn't have two quarters to rub together. Where were we going to get $100, and where were we going to go to find a gym with good competition? These two big stars, with all their money - didn't they remember where they grew up, the poor kids they once were? So the white kids with the wealthy parents from all over town and beyond began showing up at our little gym, and we resented it. But we were kids, and soon forgot the offense. They were idols, these players. After I graduated high school, I got into a pickup game at St Agnes with that very same KC Jones. He had just been named starting point guard for the Celtics, and he realized he could do anything he wanted with me on the court, but he chose mostly to take it easy, and not embarrass me. A real gentleman.

Before the Philadelphia Warriors moved the franchise to the West Coast, they agreed to play an NBA league game at the Cow Palace in SF. It was the first time I saw Russell in a game in person. Russell had said in the newspaper before the game that Wilt was averaging 45 points and what he needed to do was hold Wilt to 41 or 42 points to give the Celtics a chance to win. He held him to 38, and even though Heinsohn scored 44 points, the Warriors won by 2 or 3 points. We sat in the 2nd row behind one basket, so we were about 12 feet away from the basket when the ball was at our end of the floor, so watching Russell guard a man much bigger, taller, stronger, and faster, was fascinating. Russell once said in an interview that he never played Wilt the same way twice. He had to try and play him differently every game, to try and keep him guessing or frustrated. Wilt once told Russell, "You were a better player than I was, because you made all your teammates better. My teammates all made me a better player."

Russell said that he studied all his opponents' shooting, especially where they usually missed (short, long, left, right) When he faced an opponent, he already knew that if he missed his shot, he would know exactly where the most likely missed shot would go, so he would be in the best position to rebound the miss. Maybe the smartest player who ever played.

I was visiting Boston a couple of years after I graduated, and doing some sightseeing. I was looking for the Boston Garden, when I saw Russell and KC Jones walking on the other side of the street. Russell was only 6-9 or 6-10, but he towered over the crowd.



Thanks for this, SFCB! It was pretty much exactly what I was hoping to read. It provides so much more context not just to basketball in that era, but also a very human touch with how you were personally affected. I very much enjoy reading your posts about Bay Area sports (especially basketball) from an era I never got to know.
You're welcome. A big thing to remember about Bill Russell is that he was the first player to play above the rim at both ends of the court. It completely changed the game of basketball.
You might find some who would put Bob Kurland, from (then) Oklahoma A&M in the mid 1940s in this category.
You're right. I remember reading about Kurland. There were a few other players in the 1940s who were dunking basketballs in games. However, Russell said that he (himself) was the first player to play above the rim, and I think he was referring not just to dunking, but playing above the rim both offensively and defensively. There was no goal tending rule. If Russell was near the basket, and a teammate would put up a shot, Russell would go above the rim and guide the shot into the basket. Small disputes surfaced as to whether the shooter or Russell should be credited with making the basket. After one season of Russell and his teammates scoring lots of points in this way, the NCAA came up with the rule against offensive goal tending. Russell was also goal tending by constantly going up and blocking shots which were inside the imaginary cylinder directly above the basket, and the NCAA had to make a rule about that to keep Russell from having an unfair advantage. Maybe it was all in the same rule. I don't remember. Even after the rule changes, Russell was always soaring above the rim on his own shots and dunking, and he'd be up there on opponent shots as well, blocking the ones which were not inside the cylinder, and careful to avoid the ones that were inside it, just to let the opponent know he was there ready to block any shot. He still was pretty much alone up there in the stratosphere, until Wilt came along. Now everybody plays above the rim, or tries to.
Although Russell ws largely responsible for the offensive goaltending rule, I'm pretty the defensive version of the rule came in before Russell, purportedly in response to Kurland's proficiency at swatting away shots (see wikipedia article on Kurland). Kurland had a very dominant career in his own right with 2 NCAA titles, 2 Olympic gold medals and 3 AAU titles. He never played in the NBA or any of its forerunners.


If one can believe the internet, there seems to be competing information there. The Wikipedia article you referenced says the defensive goaltending rule was because of Bob Kurland's play, but Wikipedia also has an article on goaltending itself, which states that the rule was made because of the play of George Mikan. The Wikipedia article on Mikan himself says the goal tending rule was made because of Mikan. I had forgotten about Mikan, who played college ball for DePaul at the same time as Kurland played at Oklahoma State, who might have been more famous than Kurland, largely due to his long NBA career. These two great players had some history, and I read where Kurland was the only big man in college who had much success against Mikan. Mikan and DePaul won NIT title in 1945, while Kurland and Oklahoma State won the NCAA in 1945 and 1946. The NIT tournament was considered more prestigious in those years and up into the early 1950s because it was strictly invitational and tried to invite the best teams, while the NCAA was inviting conference champions and maybe one or two independents. DePaul was and independent, and so maybe not invited to the NCAA during Kurland's years, or maybe not good enough to be invited. Kurland and Oklahoma State defeated the the Cal Bears (with Andy Wolfe) in the 1946 NCAA Tournament Semifinal, 52-35. The Cal center was 6'-5" Jim Smith, who scored only one point, while Kurland scored 29 points.

As for basket interference, or offensive goaltending, I found an article which says Chamberlain was the reason for banning basket interference in the NBA. That isn't likely, because it was banned in the NBA in 1956, and Wilt was still a freshman in college. It might very well have been banned due to Russell, because Russell was drafted in 1956, and began playing that year. Offensive goaltending was banned in the NCAA for the 1957-58 season, according to the 2007 NCAA Record book, and it might have been due to Chamberlain, who had been dominant during the previous 1956-57 season at Kansas.

Sorry for misleading you. The story is still a little muddled. At least we can say that Kurland and Mikan were the great players whose play probably resulted in the defensive goaltending rules. I am less sure about who was responsible for the offensive goaltending rule.
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