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calumnus said:

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Big C said:

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sluggo said:

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sluggo said:

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Until Celestine comes back LT might be the #1 scoring option. On a more normal team he would be the #4 or #5 option, and I think he could thrive in such a role. Maybe next year if he stays.

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I don't think you can give LT the minutes needed to be the leading scorer. His hands, his inability to keep the ball high when he catches or rebounds it, his poor defense, and his penchant for bad TOs more than outweigh his scoring potential IMO.

I concur with you that he's at his best playing 10-15 minutes a game. Fox is in a tough spot relative to his minutes - damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

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We agree. Okafor is learning basketball. LT is a turnover machine but a decent rebounder and good inside scorer on a team with very little scoring. What do you do?

Cal needs a plug-and-play big man from the portal. Desperately. I think they Cal could be competitive next year, meaning not double digits, with such a player.

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One thing Cal could do to help LT out is get him out of the high post. His teammates never give him good options to pass either to cutters or for an open 3pt shot and they don't use him effectively as a screen if he hands off. All it does is take him out of rebounding position and give defenders a chance to slap the ball out of his hands which they've done repeatedly.

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Exactly. Lars can contribute now, but his role needs to be limited. The Davis game was a wakeup call there, hopefully.

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Exactly, let him focus on the low post skills he's been working on and where his 7' height is his advantage. Having him run the high post is asking far too much, it isn't fair to him or the team.

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Maybe Lars isn't great at running the high post offense, but he's done it plenty in the past. He also sets good screens and rarely gets called for a moving screen.

This is Fox's base offense, and unless he completely changes the offense for Lars I think we will continue to see it.

Whether that is right or wrong and Fox should change his scheme for his personnel is another question

I don't think Lars is our biggest problem. The fact that Lars will play so many minutes is out of necessity, as we really don't have many options.

Our biggest problem is the lack of shooting and players who can create which is going to make scoring in general extremely tough. Second biggest problem may be rebounding.

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Good observations! However, I think the bold item is our SECOND biggest problem. I would love to watch some of the early season practices, because I think our BIGGEST problem on both sides of the ball is fluidity. the players look they are thinking too much about what to do next. Too much pausing and hesitation under FOX.

Fluidity is the idea of executing (Xs or Os) while in the motion of your scheme - not pausing to think about what is next. This is a fundamental aspect of coaching and one that is DEADLY in todays' game if not handled well. At the youth level, a great example is passing drills that emphasize things like: consider your next pass, before you receive the ball so you aren't pausing - or - make your cut when the defense is vulnerable, don't wait for eye contact with the ball handler. Those are two very basic examples of fundamentals that are not natural and need to be learned and practiced as a team in pre-season. By the end of season two it was obvious that this is something that is not in FOX's repertoire. I'm not saying it is easy, but it is something that can be preached, practiced and coached. Coach K is a wizard. Monty emphasized it. Most successful coaches get it.

One can judge the coaching, by observing how a team develops during the season - if they start strong, the coach gets it. If they start slow and pick up some upsets late in the season - that is on the coach. Both Fox and Jones don't get it. Martin got it - at least on D. Monty got it. Braun was slow to teach it.

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This is fundamentally problematic -- a coach who's deficiency is recruiting that is supposedly fine at Xs & Os and a fair developer should not be having fluidity issues

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He is way below average at Xs and Os offensively. Defensively, he is probably average. And he brings in players with terrible fundamentals and no savvy, which further drags down his schemes.

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I was just contemplating the comment by an admin that one or two of our guys are easy to defend because although they can shoot they cannot beat you off the dribble. If Monty was coach those players would be running off well set screens until the cows came home and getting open shots. They would be used in a way that maximizes their limited skillset to the benefit of the team.

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sluggo said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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sluggo said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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This is fundamentally problematic -- a coach who's deficiency is recruiting that is supposedly fine at Xs & Os and a fair developer should not be having fluidity issues

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He is way below average at Xs and Os offensively. Defensively, he is probably average. And he brings in players with terrible fundamentals and no savvy, which further drags down his schemes.

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I was just contemplating the comment by an admin that one or two of our guys are easy to defend because although they can shoot they cannot beat you off the dribble. If Monty was coach those players would be running off well set screens until the cows came home and getting open shots. They would be used in a way that maximizes their limited skillset to the benefit of the team.

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Alajiki and Kuany are both fine at catch and shoot but neither can shoot on the move or use their left hand. They need the team to play inside and kick back out to the shooters, which was Monty's specialty. But Fox is playing this way too. Fox is actually good at strategy. They could do more off cutting to the basket, but that is hampered by the other team knowing it can sag. And Fox's team not doing much off the ball.

But this leads us back to LT being the only inside scorer. He needs to provide that scoring and is the key to inside-outside play. The team is not built to play any other way right now. Next year with R. Brown and hopefully Celestine back they can hopefully play a more wing dominated style.

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tequila4kapp said:

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sluggo said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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sluggo said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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This is fundamentally problematic -- a coach who's deficiency is recruiting that is supposedly fine at Xs & Os and a fair developer should not be having fluidity issues

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He is way below average at Xs and Os offensively. Defensively, he is probably average. And he brings in players with terrible fundamentals and no savvy, which further drags down his schemes.

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I was just contemplating the comment by an admin that one or two of our guys are easy to defend because although they can shoot they cannot beat you off the dribble. If Monty was coach those players would be running off well set screens until the cows came home and getting open shots. They would be used in a way that maximizes their limited skillset to the benefit of the team.

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Alajiki and Kuany are both fine at catch and shoot but neither can shoot on the move or use their left hand. They need the team to play inside and kick back out to the shooters, which was Monty's specialty. But Fox is playing this way too. Fox is actually good at strategy. They could do more off cutting to the basket, but that is hampered by the other team knowing it can sag. And Fox's team not doing much off the ball.

But this leads us back to LT being the only inside scorer. He needs to provide that scoring and is the key to inside-outside play. The team is not built to play any other way right now. Next year with R. Brown and hopefully Celestine back they can hopefully play a more wing dominated style.

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Because, why not... Here is Fox's "chin shuffle" offense: https://www.mensbasketballhoopscoop.com/mark-fox-georgia-bulldogs-chin-shuffle-action-by-adam-spinella/

Here is a version of the Stack Offense Monty ran: https://hoopstudent.com/basketball-stack-offense/#:~:text=The%20stack%20offense%20is%20a,for%20the%20team's%20best%20players.

Monty also ran something called the 5 Man Motion. I cannot find anything that diagrams that (I assume it is different than the 5 Out offense)

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HearstMining said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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sluggo said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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sluggo said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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This is fundamentally problematic -- a coach who's deficiency is recruiting that is supposedly fine at Xs & Os and a fair developer should not be having fluidity issues

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He is way below average at Xs and Os offensively. Defensively, he is probably average. And he brings in players with terrible fundamentals and no savvy, which further drags down his schemes.

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I was just contemplating the comment by an admin that one or two of our guys are easy to defend because although they can shoot they cannot beat you off the dribble. If Monty was coach those players would be running off well set screens until the cows came home and getting open shots. They would be used in a way that maximizes their limited skillset to the benefit of the team.

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Alajiki and Kuany are both fine at catch and shoot but neither can shoot on the move or use their left hand. They need the team to play inside and kick back out to the shooters, which was Monty's specialty. But Fox is playing this way too. Fox is actually good at strategy. They could do more off cutting to the basket, but that is hampered by the other team knowing it can sag. And Fox's team not doing much off the ball.

But this leads us back to LT being the only inside scorer. He needs to provide that scoring and is the key to inside-outside play. The team is not built to play any other way right now. Next year with R. Brown and hopefully Celestine back they can hopefully play a more wing dominated style.

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Because, why not... Here is Fox's "chin shuffle" offense: https://www.mensbasketballhoopscoop.com/mark-fox-georgia-bulldogs-chin-shuffle-action-by-adam-spinella/

Here is a version of the Stack Offense Monty ran: https://hoopstudent.com/basketball-stack-offense/#:~:text=The%20stack%20offense%20is%20a,for%20the%20team's%20best%20players.

Monty also ran something called the 5 Man Motion. I cannot find anything that diagrams that (I assume it is different than the 5 Out offense)

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In the "chin shuffle" video, Georgia shot 2-6. Yeah, I know shooting wasn't the point of the clips selected. In addition, Georgia players were rarely in position for an offensive rebound, which is an area you should emphasize if you don't have good shooters.

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Civil Bear said:

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HearstMining said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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sluggo said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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sluggo said:

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eastcoastcal said:

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This is fundamentally problematic -- a coach who's deficiency is recruiting that is supposedly fine at Xs & Os and a fair developer should not be having fluidity issues

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He is way below average at Xs and Os offensively. Defensively, he is probably average. And he brings in players with terrible fundamentals and no savvy, which further drags down his schemes.

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I was just contemplating the comment by an admin that one or two of our guys are easy to defend because although they can shoot they cannot beat you off the dribble. If Monty was coach those players would be running off well set screens until the cows came home and getting open shots. They would be used in a way that maximizes their limited skillset to the benefit of the team.

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Alajiki and Kuany are both fine at catch and shoot but neither can shoot on the move or use their left hand. They need the team to play inside and kick back out to the shooters, which was Monty's specialty. But Fox is playing this way too. Fox is actually good at strategy. They could do more off cutting to the basket, but that is hampered by the other team knowing it can sag. And Fox's team not doing much off the ball.

But this leads us back to LT being the only inside scorer. He needs to provide that scoring and is the key to inside-outside play. The team is not built to play any other way right now. Next year with R. Brown and hopefully Celestine back they can hopefully play a more wing dominated style.

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Because, why not... Here is Fox's "chin shuffle" offense: https://www.mensbasketballhoopscoop.com/mark-fox-georgia-bulldogs-chin-shuffle-action-by-adam-spinella/

Here is a version of the Stack Offense Monty ran: https://hoopstudent.com/basketball-stack-offense/#:~:text=The%20stack%20offense%20is%20a,for%20the%20team's%20best%20players.

Monty also ran something called the 5 Man Motion. I cannot find anything that diagrams that (I assume it is different than the 5 Out offense)

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In the "chin shuffle" video, Georgia shot 2-6. Yeah, I know shooting wasn't the point of the clips selected. In addition, Georgia players were rarely in position for an offensive rebound, which is an area you should emphasize if you don't have good shooters.

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They were also leading #1 ranked Kentucky in most of the clips.

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