Cal (Askew) makes one of two, Chico misses, fouls and Roberson makes 2 FT, and that's your final, Cal "holds on" for a 62-55 win.
Will there be a scoreboard feed of the Chico State game on Wed?
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62-55 Cal!
Whew!
Whew!
Played like a d2 team, crowd looked like a d3 team, our coach belongs in NAIA
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People follow the basketball team? Yikes…
Call me when we've fired Fox
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Okafor with 11 points, 5 rebounds and an assist in 9 min?
We will see how he does against bigger teams but that is an impressive debut.
We will see how he does against bigger teams but that is an impressive debut.
touchdownbears43 said:
People follow the basketball team? Yikes…
Call me when we've fired Fox
You're here…. So I guess they do.
Fire Fox. A 7 point game to a D3 team? Are we sure there's a chance we finish anywhere but last?
I'm somewhat pissed because it wasn't even like we looked properly coached or prepped-- our shots were bad. I found myself at times wondering who the hell is teaching our players to shoot? Bad misses, horrible form, just so pathetic
Overall what a **** basketball program. Screw any of the donors who defend him because of our "liabilities" like no practice facility or NIL. I can show you a dozen high school coaches who can prep their players better than what we showed tonight. I'm going to the next game with a Firefox sign and I'm going to verbally abuse Fox from the student section
Overall what a **** basketball program. Screw any of the donors who defend him because of our "liabilities" like no practice facility or NIL. I can show you a dozen high school coaches who can prep their players better than what we showed tonight. I'm going to the next game with a Firefox sign and I'm going to verbally abuse Fox from the student section
I feel like that was a reasonable turnout for this game
eastcoastcal said:
I'm somewhat pissed because it wasn't even like we looked properly coached or prepped-- our shots were bad. I found myself at times wondering who the hell is teaching our players to shoot? Bad misses, horrible form, just so pathetic
Overall what a **** basketball program. Screw any of the donors who defend him because of our "liabilities" like no practice facility or NIL. I can show you a dozen high school coaches who can prep their players better than what we showed tonight. I'm going to the next game with a Firefox sign and I'm going to verbally abuse Fox from the student section
Yeah, I'm sure D2 Chico State has a "fantastic" practice facility, that is why they hung with us at Haas and why D2 UCSD beat us last year.
What Cal athletics needs is some young blood, some people with vision who understand an accept the modern world and players. Instead we have a coach pining for Midwest basketball of the 1950s, an AD pining for Western Massachusetts and Army hockey with "tough coaches" a chancellor who pines for the Victorian era and they all seem to be surrounded by even older Cal sycophants who defend them and want to raise hundreds of $millions for obsolete weapons used to fight the last war.
Cal wins!!! Impressive showings by Thiemann, Okafor, Roberson, Alajiki and Askew!
(Okay, we didn't look that good, but I've learned to not draw conclusions from an exhibitions like this.)
Louisville lost a scrimmage to a d2 team, guess their season is over too.
uplandbear said:
Louisville lost a scrimmage to a d2 team, guess their season is over too.
Yeah this win should at least get us into the 'also receiving votes' range.
We got out-hustled. Chico State played harder and faster than we did. And the outcome was in doubt with a minute left, even though their best center was out with an injury and the backup was playing with 4 fouls.
Our offense looked just like last season. Pointless motion, slow cuts, passes begging to be picked off. We had only 8 assists and shot just 38%, 11% on threes. I think we generally played better on defense but that end was far from perfect.
Askew impressed me in the first half. In the second I don't think he made a FG and on defense his man blew by him time after time. I didn't see Clayton do anything noteworthy. OTOH Okafor and Newell looked pretty good for their first college game.
Thiemann looked solid, as he should against Chico State. I thought Roberson showed the most improvement among the returnees. Frankly I don't think any of the rest looked notably different. Kuany did have a highlight follow dunk but nothing else.
The refs called too many meaningless fouls, but I was amused by a Chico State guard getting a 3 second call when he picked up his dribble at the top of the key and couldn't find an open teammate. Tough night for that guy, twice on wide open breaks we ran him down and prevented him from scoring.
Altogether I'd say we played like less than the sum of our parts. Not what I was hoping to see.
Shout out to our woman's team for coming to support the men!
Our offense looked just like last season. Pointless motion, slow cuts, passes begging to be picked off. We had only 8 assists and shot just 38%, 11% on threes. I think we generally played better on defense but that end was far from perfect.
Askew impressed me in the first half. In the second I don't think he made a FG and on defense his man blew by him time after time. I didn't see Clayton do anything noteworthy. OTOH Okafor and Newell looked pretty good for their first college game.
Thiemann looked solid, as he should against Chico State. I thought Roberson showed the most improvement among the returnees. Frankly I don't think any of the rest looked notably different. Kuany did have a highlight follow dunk but nothing else.
The refs called too many meaningless fouls, but I was amused by a Chico State guard getting a 3 second call when he picked up his dribble at the top of the key and couldn't find an open teammate. Tough night for that guy, twice on wide open breaks we ran him down and prevented him from scoring.
Altogether I'd say we played like less than the sum of our parts. Not what I was hoping to see.
Shout out to our woman's team for coming to support the men!
uplandbear said:
Louisville lost a scrimmage to a d2 team, guess their season is over too.
Yes, we lost to UCSD last year and…..
UCLA played Chico last year in an exhibition and beat them 100-61.
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It was my son's birthday and he requested dinner with the family at Pieology in Pleasant Hill so I only saw the last 15 minutes after dropping my boys off back in Berkeley but what I saw was sloppy and ugly. I tried to get some highlight vids to tweet out but had to keep deleting missed buckets and turnovers and only managed to get two that whole stretch.
I know a lot of D1 programs have sloppy games or even upset losses in exhibitions but they did not have the look of a team that even has a hope of challenging for .500 overall. Far from it unless they look a lot better in games to come. They just don't have the shooting they need to compete by the looks of things.
I know a lot of D1 programs have sloppy games or even upset losses in exhibitions but they did not have the look of a team that even has a hope of challenging for .500 overall. Far from it unless they look a lot better in games to come. They just don't have the shooting they need to compete by the looks of things.
stu said:
We got out-hustled. Chico State played harder and faster than we did. And the outcome was in doubt with a minute left, even though their best center was out with an injury and the backup was playing with 4 fouls.
Our offense looked just like last season. Pointless motion, slow cuts, passes begging to be picked off. We had only 8 assists and shot just 38%, 11% on threes. I think we generally played better on defense but that end was far from perfect.
Askew impressed me in the first half. In the second I don't think he made a FG and on defense his man blew by him time after time. I didn't see Clayton do anything noteworthy. OTOH Okafor and Newell looked pretty good for their first college game.
Thiemann looked solid, as he should against Chico State. I thought Roberson showed the most improvement among the returnees. Frankly I don't think any of the rest looked notably different. Kuany did have a highlight follow dunk but nothing else.
The refs called too many meaningless fouls, but I was amused by a Chico State guard getting a 3 second call when he picked up his dribble at the top of the key and couldn't find an open teammate. Tough night for that guy, twice on wide open breaks we ran him down and prevented him from scoring.
Altogether I'd say we played like less than the sum of our parts. Not what I was hoping to see.
Shout out to our woman's team for coming to support the men!
Your observations pretty much jibe with mine (I put 'em on the other thread that I started.).
I've learned to not draw too many conclusions from these exhibitions, but, yeah, we didn't play that well. Some of the guys just don't play what I would call "winning basketball", if that makes sense. Maybe they look good in the uniform, or flash a good move or two, but just don't play with poise, or are often a half step out of position. Well, we'll see what happens...
I agree, we are really bad. Like seriously bad. I do not buy that outlook that we could win more than last year. I really think it will be a struggle to stay out of 12th place. And I did not have this same outlook after the loss to Davis last year. This is just a very low-talent team.MoragaBear said:
It was my son's birthday and he requested dinner with the family at Pieology in Pleasant Hill so I only saw the last 15 minutes after dropping my boys off back in Berkeley but what I saw was sloppy and ugly. I tried to get some highlight vids to tweet out but had to keep deleting missed buckets and turnovers and only managed to get two that whole stretch.
I know a lot of D1 programs have sloppy games or even upset losses in exhibitions but they did not have the look of a team that even has a hope of challenging for .500 overall. Far from it unless they look a lot better in games to come. They just don't have the shooting they need to compete by the looks of things.
As an aside, happy birthday to your son!
MoragaBear said:ND Okafor with the bucket. Cal 45 CSU 35 pic.twitter.com/E3DzRUUVCR
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Hey I like Okafor's footwork and his size
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KoreAmBear said:MoragaBear said:ND Okafor with the bucket. Cal 45 CSU 35 pic.twitter.com/E3DzRUUVCR
— Jim McGill (@BearInsider_com) November 3, 2022
Hey I like Okafor's footwork and his size
I think he will be our best inside scorer and rebounder. I could see him being a good PF on a team with good outside shooting, but a front court of Okafor, Newell (assuming he is as good as reported and the Chico game was first game jitters) and Alajiki has some promise. Add Celestine at SG and Askew at PG and next year we might not finish last, maybe as high as 8th with a better coach who can implement an offense.
I really believe that with the transfer portal it has never been easier to turn a program around for mens' hoops. Look at Iowa St-- went from 2-21 in 2021, one of the worst in the nation, to 22-12 and a sweet 16 appearance in 2022. This is part of what gives me hope that it doesn't have to be several years until we're good again. With the right coach we could be competitive next year. With Okafor, Celestine, Askew, Alajiki, and Newell, the right portal additions and coaching could turn the program right around.calumnus said:KoreAmBear said:MoragaBear said:ND Okafor with the bucket. Cal 45 CSU 35 pic.twitter.com/E3DzRUUVCR
— Jim McGill (@BearInsider_com) November 3, 2022
Hey I like Okafor's footwork and his size
I think he will be our best inside scorer and rebounder. I could see him being a good PF on a team with good outside shooting, but a front court of Okafor, Newell (assuming he is as good as reported and the Chico game was first game jitters) and Alajiki has some promise. Add Celestine at SG and Askew at PG and next year we might not finish last, maybe as high as 8th with a better coach who can implement an offense.
eastcoastcal said:I really believe that with the transfer portal it has never been easier to turn a program around for mens' hoops. Look at Iowa St-- went from 2-21 in 2021, one of the worst in the nation, to 22-12 and a sweet 16 appearance in 2022. This is part of what gives me hope that it doesn't have to be several years until we're good again. With the right coach we could be competitive next year. With Okafor, Celestine, Askew, Alajiki, and Newell, the right portal additions and coaching could turn the program right around.calumnus said:KoreAmBear said:MoragaBear said:ND Okafor with the bucket. Cal 45 CSU 35 pic.twitter.com/E3DzRUUVCR
— Jim McGill (@BearInsider_com) November 3, 2022
Hey I like Okafor's footwork and his size
I think he will be our best inside scorer and rebounder. I could see him being a good PF on a team with good outside shooting, but a front court of Okafor, Newell (assuming he is as good as reported and the Chico game was first game jitters) and Alajiki has some promise. Add Celestine at SG and Askew at PG and next year we might not finish last, maybe as high as 8th with a better coach who can implement an offense.
Yes, there is reason for optimism if Knowlton fires Fox and relies on the advice of younger Cal basketball alums and not the search firm.
eastcoastcal said:I really believe that with the transfer portal it has never been easier to turn a program around for mens' hoops. Look at Iowa St-- went from 2-21 in 2021, one of the worst in the nation, to 22-12 and a sweet 16 appearance in 2022. This is part of what gives me hope that it doesn't have to be several years until we're good again. With the right coach we could be competitive next year. With Okafor, Celestine, Askew, Alajiki, and Newell, the right portal additions and coaching could turn the program right around.calumnus said:KoreAmBear said:MoragaBear said:ND Okafor with the bucket. Cal 45 CSU 35 pic.twitter.com/E3DzRUUVCR
— Jim McGill (@BearInsider_com) November 3, 2022
Hey I like Okafor's footwork and his size
I think he will be our best inside scorer and rebounder. I could see him being a good PF on a team with good outside shooting, but a front court of Okafor, Newell (assuming he is as good as reported and the Chico game was first game jitters) and Alajiki has some promise. Add Celestine at SG and Askew at PG and next year we might not finish last, maybe as high as 8th with a better coach who can implement an offense.
I'm not so sure. I would rather wait until PAC-12 play to see how these guys look in league. Of the names you listed, only Celestine looked like a PAC-12 level starter. Alajiki showed some flashes last year, so will be interesting to see how does this year. We'll see how the others look once league play starts.
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