Rock Bottom

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sluggo
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I looked up Cal basketball season records ( https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/california/ ). The worst team ever by winning percentage was the 1978-79 team that was 6-21 (.222). The worse team this century was 2017-2018 was 8-24 (.250). I don't see this team doing as well as either.

The biggest problem I see is that they lack basketball savvy. Other than the two points, Askew and Brown, the other players look like the picked up a basketball only recently. This is closely followed by the lack of scoring ability. LT and Askew should be the fourth and fifth scorers rather than the first and second scorers. LT was credited with 5 turnovers against Davis, but it seemed more like 7 or 8. He can score against smaller players, but he can not be the go to scorer with all his turnovers. The same goes for Askew, who knows all of Chris Paul's moves, but does them with less athleticism and with erratic touch. Askew does have excellent vision and knows how to feed the post, which is something. He is the right point guard on the wrong team.

The one bright spot is Newell, who looks to have somewhere between decent and good touch and can already dribble right or left, something Kuany and Alajiki will never be able to do. I think he is going to be good. Okafor has good quickness and shot blocking ability but nothing else. He is a couple years away. Clayton shot in the 30s against low competition, so I don't expect much there. The idea that the team has depth without a Pac12 average starter is so absurd.

I love the Rodney Brown addition. I can see a team of R. Brown, Askew, Newell, Okafor and maybe three new recruits/transfers being mediocre. Right now, mediocre is a dream.
calfanz
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It's all but done that Fox is gone.

So it's time for all sunshine pumpers to make a list of go to coaches.

#1 Skill Recruiting.
#2 Skill Recruiting.

Big C
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sluggo said:

I looked up Cal basketball season records ( https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/california/ ). The worst team ever by winning percentage was the 1978-79 team that was 6-21 (.222). The worse team this century was 2017-2018 was 8-24 (.250). I don't see this team doing as well as either.

The biggest problem I see is that they lack basketball savvy. Other than the two points, Askew and Brown, the other players look like the picked up a basketball only recently. This is closely followed by the lack of scoring ability. LT and Askew should be the fourth and fifth scorers rather than the first and second scorers. LT was credited with 5 turnovers against Davis, but it seemed more like 7 or 8. He can score against smaller players, but he can not be the go to scorer with all his turnovers. The same goes for Askew, who knows all of Chris Paul's moves, but does them with less athleticism and with erratic touch. Askew does have excellent vision and knows how to feed the post, which is something. He is the right point guard on the wrong team.

The one bright spot is Newell, who looks to have somewhere between decent and good touch and can already dribble right or left, something Kuany and Alajiki will never be able to do. I think he is going to be good. Okafor has good quickness and shot blocking ability but nothing else. He is a couple years away. Clayton shot in the 30s against low competition, so I don't expect much there. The idea that the team has depth without a Pac12 average starter is so absurd.

I love the Rodney Brown addition. I can see a team of R. Brown, Askew, Newell, Okafor and maybe three new recruits/transfers being mediocre. Right now, mediocre is a dream.


Lacking basketball savvy, exactly. Not sure Joel Brown has much either. Askew yes, but he looks like he's trying to make a youtube video, not win a game. Every player on the roster is flawed.

Pathetic showing tonight.
Golden One
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This may be the worst Cal team in many decades. From what I've seen against Chico State and UCD, I'm not sure anyone on this team could make the rotation on any of the other 11 Pac-12 teams. The lack of talent is unbelieveable.
eastcoastcal
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(posted this on the game thread too)

Davis is 208 in Sagarin

Eastern Washington is 206. UT Arlington is 233. Southern is 300. UCSD (who we lost to last year) is 316.

So hopefully we get 4 wins. Of course, absolutely no guarantee that we do. Thing is, we'll probably get 1-2 surprise victories in-conference, plus OSU and Utah are likely pretty bad. We probably get a win from them at least once. Realistically I think we end up with 6ish wins. Historically bad for us and probably might set a record for worst 5-year win% in power-5 conference history for men's basketball
Big C
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Golden One said:

This may be the worst Cal team in many decades. From what I've seen against Chico State and UCD, I'm not sure anyone on this team could make the rotation on any of the other 11 Pac-12 teams. The lack of talent is unbelieveable.

Let's see...

Cal Football
Cal Basketball
Days getting shorter.
Weather getting colder.
Rain coming (we need it, but I don't like it)

Hibernation might be in order for us Bears.
KoreAmBear
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Big C said:

Golden One said:

This may be the worst Cal team in many decades. From what I've seen against Chico State and UCD, I'm not sure anyone on this team could make the rotation on any of the other 11 Pac-12 teams. The lack of talent is unbelieveable.

Let's see...

Cal Football
Cal Basketball
Days getting shorter.
Weather getting colder.
Rain coming (we need it, but I don't like it)

Hibernation might be in order for us Bears.


Add:
Inflation/recession
Bear market
calumnus
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KoreAmBear said:

Big C said:

Golden One said:

This may be the worst Cal team in many decades. From what I've seen against Chico State and UCD, I'm not sure anyone on this team could make the rotation on any of the other 11 Pac-12 teams. The lack of talent is unbelieveable.

Let's see...

Cal Football
Cal Basketball
Days getting shorter.
Weather getting colder.
Rain coming (we need it, but I don't like it)

Hibernation might be in order for us Bears.


Add:
Inflation/recession
Bear market


For many of us, the election result.
socaltownie
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Dumping in the Sierra and I got new all mountain skiis and two trips (and counting) planned. Think snow
Take care of your Chicken
bearister
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Big C said:

Golden One said:

This may be the worst Cal team in many decades. From what I've seen against Chico State and UCD, I'm not sure anyone on this team could make the rotation on any of the other 11 Pac-12 teams. The lack of talent is unbelieveable.

Let's see...

Cal Football
Cal Basketball
Days getting shorter.
Weather getting colder.
Rain coming (we need it, but I don't like it)

Hibernation might be in order for us Bears.


….you forgot to add that not an insignificant number of posters here are late in the second half to Overtime in life….time to load up on Nordic Noir, gummies and Woodford Reserve (and like De Niro in Deer Hunter, ask for 3, because at this point it isn't even reckless).
Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside
bearister
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I believe the Bears had a total of 19 Conference wins over my 4 years at Cal (1972-1976). At least we had a very good football team.
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BeachedBear
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calfanz said:

It's all but done that Fox is gone.

So it's time for all sunshine pumpers to make a list of go to coaches.

#1 Skill Recruiting.
#2 Skill Recruiting.


Sorry, but we did this last year and provided DOZENS of names.

Fox was given an extension.

True sunshine pumpers will need to focus on the pros of FOX - he isn't going anywhere soon unless his 20 year rebuild comes in early.
LudwigsFountain
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KoreAmBear said:

Big C said:

Golden One said:

This may be the worst Cal team in many decades. From what I've seen against Chico State and UCD, I'm not sure anyone on this team could make the rotation on any of the other 11 Pac-12 teams. The lack of talent is unbelieveable.

Let's see...



Cal Football
Cal Basketball
Days getting shorter.
Weather getting colder.



Rain coming (we need it, but I don't like it)

Hibernation might be in order for us Bears.



Add:
Inflation/recession
Bear market


At least you didn't go to the game with your son and several of his friends, all of whom are Davis alumni
oskithepimp
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Welp, at least my winter schedule cleared up by not having to watch basketball.
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