HoopDreams said:

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calumnus said:

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MoragaBear said:

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4thGenCal said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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stu said:

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Speaking of coaching, this excerpt from a subscriber-only article by Jon Wilner:
https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/12/28/pac-12-basketball-hot-seat-update-as-the-conference-season-begins/

(I posted less than 1/2 of less than 1/12 of the text so I think it's fair use.)

Chance of a vacancy: 95 percent. Anywhere else, and the likelihood of dismissal would be eight trillion percent. (Actually, Fox already would have been fired by any other school … except Stanford). But Cal is a tough gig, the standards aren't exactly lofty, and the public pressure to make a change is modest.

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Sad when everyone knows the coach should be fired now except our AD.

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Agreed -its been posted before but I couldn't find it, but what is the buy out to terminate Fox after the season?. There are various dates that decrease the money owed and there are multiple payout areas beyond a straight salary. Would be very helpful to know the total amounts required to buy out the HC. Because as loyal/passionate alums/donors meet with the AD (now and after season) the first objection likely from the AD is well "we have X financial obligation and unless we get donor's to step up, how do we cover that obligation"? A donor did that to buy out Wyking's remaining 3 year salary and that will have to be the case here. Thanks to whomever has the accurate information and can post it when convenient.

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Fox's base salary is $275,000 annually. Here's how much he'll earn on an annual basis between his base salary and talent fee:

• Year One: $1.5 million
• Year Two: $1.575 million
• Year Three: $1.65 million
• Year Four: $1.725 million
• Year Five: $1.8 million

If Fox is terminated without cause, here's how much the university will owe him:

• Year One: 100% of the base salary and talent fee for the remainder of the contract year in which the termination occurs.
• Year Two: 100% of the base salary and talent fee for the next contract year
• Year Three: 75% of the base salary and talent fee for the next contract year
• Year Four: 50% of the base salary and talent fee for the next contract year
• Year Five: 25% of the base salary and talent fee for the next contract year

This was his original contract. Not sure how the 1 year extension affected the buyout, if at all.

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Yeah, I remember that article and it was a little confusing, especially with the extension (1 year or two?) but best guess is 50% of about $1.8 million or $900,000? Nothing like the Wilcox situation.

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also need to buyout the new coach ... unless he's been unemployed for a year

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Labaugh makes what, $80,000 at CCSF?

Run'n at or from?

i wasn't referring to SF City coach

he should get a mid major gig before cal considers him

would make a great cal assistant however

calumnus said:

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HoopDreams said:

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calumnus said:

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MoragaBear said:

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4thGenCal said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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stu said:

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Speaking of coaching, this excerpt from a subscriber-only article by Jon Wilner:
https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/12/28/pac-12-basketball-hot-seat-update-as-the-conference-season-begins/

(I posted less than 1/2 of less than 1/12 of the text so I think it's fair use.)

Chance of a vacancy: 95 percent. Anywhere else, and the likelihood of dismissal would be eight trillion percent. (Actually, Fox already would have been fired by any other school … except Stanford). But Cal is a tough gig, the standards aren't exactly lofty, and the public pressure to make a change is modest.

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Sad when everyone knows the coach should be fired now except our AD.

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Agreed -its been posted before but I couldn't find it, but what is the buy out to terminate Fox after the season?. There are various dates that decrease the money owed and there are multiple payout areas beyond a straight salary. Would be very helpful to know the total amounts required to buy out the HC. Because as loyal/passionate alums/donors meet with the AD (now and after season) the first objection likely from the AD is well "we have X financial obligation and unless we get donor's to step up, how do we cover that obligation"? A donor did that to buy out Wyking's remaining 3 year salary and that will have to be the case here. Thanks to whomever has the accurate information and can post it when convenient.

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Fox's base salary is $275,000 annually. Here's how much he'll earn on an annual basis between his base salary and talent fee:

• Year One: $1.5 million
• Year Two: $1.575 million
• Year Three: $1.65 million
• Year Four: $1.725 million
• Year Five: $1.8 million

If Fox is terminated without cause, here's how much the university will owe him:

• Year One: 100% of the base salary and talent fee for the remainder of the contract year in which the termination occurs.
• Year Two: 100% of the base salary and talent fee for the next contract year
• Year Three: 75% of the base salary and talent fee for the next contract year
• Year Four: 50% of the base salary and talent fee for the next contract year
• Year Five: 25% of the base salary and talent fee for the next contract year

This was his original contract. Not sure how the 1 year extension affected the buyout, if at all.

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Yeah, I remember that article and it was a little confusing, especially with the extension (1 year or two?) but best guess is 50% of about $1.8 million or $900,000? Nothing like the Wilcox situation.

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also need to buyout the new coach ... unless he's been unemployed for a year

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Labaugh makes what, $80,000 at CCSF?

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I agree HoopDreams, he would make for an excellent assistant coach. He knows the Bay Area and Northern California recruiting scene well. He has been so successful at SF City College for quite a while. He has a proud program. Love to see him at Cal as an Asst. Coach.

Gkhoury2325 said:

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I agree HoopDreams, he would make for an excellent assistant coach. He knows the Bay Area and Northern California recruiting scene well. He has been so successful at SF City College for quite a while. He has a proud program. Love to see him at Cal as an Asst. Coach.

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Probably better for his career to take a HC stop at USF or UOP - but that may not be what he wants. Based on his record, I'm surprised he hasn't made that move in prior years. Perhaps he's right where he wants to be.

Gkhoury2325 said:

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I agree HoopDreams, he would make for an excellent assistant coach. He knows the Bay Area and Northern California recruiting scene well. He has been so successful at SF City College for quite a while. He has a proud program. Love to see him at Cal as an Asst. Coach.

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If we had hired Dennis Gates he would have been a perfect complement. Still would be a good assistant for any coach coming from the East Coast.

Though his being at CCSF is a big advantage for a competent Cal coach.

calumnus said:

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Gkhoury2325 said:

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I agree HoopDreams, he would make for an excellent assistant coach. He knows the Bay Area and Northern California recruiting scene well. He has been so successful at SF City College for quite a while. He has a proud program. Love to see him at Cal as an Asst. Coach.

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If we had hired Dennis Gates he would have been a perfect complement. Still would be a good assistant for any coach coming from the East Coast.

Though his being at CCSF is a big advantage for a competent Cal coach.

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agree ... hire a young up and coming coach with a strong brand, and have SFCC coach be the first assistant

Maybe this question has been asked and answered already, but would Justin be interested in leaving CCSF and coming to Cal in any coaching position? He sounds like a great fit in almost any position.