Could Cal MBB beat CCSF?

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GMP
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I took my kids to the CCSF basketball game today. Their opponent was overmatched. But they had some very good athletes and played very active, swarming defense. At one point late in the first half they were up 40-9. They were well coached and for the most part knew what they wanted to do offensively and defensively, as a team.

It had me wondering. Could Cal beat this team? I think the odds are not good.

Also, I realize things are very different at the JUCO level but the CCSF coach has quite the resume and I wonder how often a JUCO coach has made a successful transition to D1. Anyone have any insight there?
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GMP said:

I took my kids to the CCSF basketball game today. Their opponent was overmatched. But they had some very good athletes and played very active, swarming defense. At one point late in the first half they were up 40-9. They were well coached and for the most part knew what they wanted to do offensively and defensively, as a team.

It had me wondering. Could Cal beat this team? I think the odds are not good.

Also, I realize things are very different at the JUCO level but the CCSF coach has quite the resume and I wonder how often a JUCO coach has made a successful transition to D1. Anyone have any insight there?
I bet the Top 25 type JUCOs could beat Cal and may other D1 programs. JUCOS for many sports have D1 caliber players who didn't have grades or needed some time to develop.
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Yeah, good point.

Also, the CCSF coach's bio says he is tied with Tarkanian for the most state titles, with four. I didn't know Tark started at JUCO, but he coached at three different JUCOs over ten years before he got to LBSU. So that's a pretty good example of a coach making the transition, but it was also almost sixty years ago.
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GMP said:

Yeah, good point.

Also, the CCSF coach's bio says he is tied with Tarkanian for the most state titles, with four. I didn't know Tark started at JUCO, but he coached at three different JUCOs over ten years before he got to LBSU. So that's a pretty good example of a coach making the transition, but it was also almost sixty years ago.
Also Tark was a big proponent of recruiting the best JUCOs like Larry Johnson. Man what a run he had.
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This former CCSF hoop coach did color for the KTVU college telecasts in the 80's with Steve Physioc on play by play.
Duggan sounded like Bill Murray with a heat on. He was hysterical and had serious hoop and local SF knowledge.

WHERE ARE THEY NOW / Ex-coach still drives in high gear


https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/WHERE-ARE-THEY-NOW-Ex-coach-still-drives-in-2865463.php

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Here's a hypothetical: Could Cal beat Luka Doncic?
Alkiadt
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GMP said:

I took my kids to the CCSF basketball game today. Their opponent was overmatched. But they had some very good athletes and played very active, swarming defense. At one point late in the first half they were up 40-9. They were well coached and for the most part knew what they wanted to do offensively and defensively, as a team.

It had me wondering. Could Cal beat this team? I think the odds are not good.

Also, I realize things are very different at the JUCO level but the CCSF coach has quite the resume and I wonder how often a JUCO coach has made a successful transition to D1. Anyone have any insight there?

Justin Labaugh was a walk on at Cal.
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Alkiadt said:

GMP said:

I took my kids to the CCSF basketball game today. Their opponent was overmatched. But they had some very good athletes and played very active, swarming defense. At one point late in the first half they were up 40-9. They were well coached and for the most part knew what they wanted to do offensively and defensively, as a team.

It had me wondering. Could Cal beat this team? I think the odds are not good.

Also, I realize things are very different at the JUCO level but the CCSF coach has quite the resume and I wonder how often a JUCO coach has made a successful transition to D1. Anyone have any insight there?

Justin Labaugh was a walk on at Cal.


Yes, was waiting for someone to mention he is a Cal alum.
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i think the two cal players who were kicked off the team played there for a year and may have won a state championship (not sure)

netflix has an excellent series on juco ball ( last chance u ). east LA juco has two former D1 players, the star is 7 foot center from UW

they featured this team for two seasons and SFCC has been the 800lb gorilla
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calumnus said:

Alkiadt said:

GMP said:

I took my kids to the CCSF basketball game today. Their opponent was overmatched. But they had some very good athletes and played very active, swarming defense. At one point late in the first half they were up 40-9. They were well coached and for the most part knew what they wanted to do offensively and defensively, as a team.

It had me wondering. Could Cal beat this team? I think the odds are not good.

Also, I realize things are very different at the JUCO level but the CCSF coach has quite the resume and I wonder how often a JUCO coach has made a successful transition to D1. Anyone have any insight there?

Justin Labaugh was a walk on at Cal.


Yes, was waiting for someone to mention he is a Cal alum.
Would he be interested in coaching at Cal?

https://ccsfathletics.com/sports/mbkb/coaches/Justin_Labagh?view=bio
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KoreAmBear said:

GMP said:

Yeah, good point.

Also, the CCSF coach's bio says he is tied with Tarkanian for the most state titles, with four. I didn't know Tark started at JUCO, but he coached at three different JUCOs over ten years before he got to LBSU. So that's a pretty good example of a coach making the transition, but it was also almost sixty years ago.
Also Tark was a big proponent of recruiting the best JUCOs like Larry Johnson. Man what a run he had.
He had a great run. Like Tom Osborne and Bill Snyder, Tark thrived at a time before the NCAA instituted more stringent academic standards for athletes, and he had a lot of key players that other teams wouldn't recruit.

By the way, given the Supreme Court's questioning of the legality of nearly all NCAA rules, the NCAA's academic standards for athletes are vulnerable to being overturned in court, if anyone feels like initiating such a lawsuit.
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HoopDreams said:

i think the two cal players who were kicked off the team played there for a year and may have won a state championship (not sure)

netflix has an excellent series on juco ball ( last chance u ). east LA juco has two former D1 players, the star is 7 foot center from UW

they featured this team for two seasons and SFCC has been the 800lb gorilla

Yes, love the show. Just finished Season 2, hence taking my kids to the game yesterday. I didn't know CCSF basketball is such a powerhouse. I live very close, so I am excited to go to more games.

I actually did not know Labagh went to Cal before this thread, but his name did seem weirdly familiar to me so it must have been rattling around in my brain somewhere.
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Lute Olson coached in high school for 13 years before moving to Long Beach City College for 4 years. He went to Long Beach St. to take over for Tarkanian before moving on to Iowa and of course, UA. Right now, I can't understand how anyone could discount a JC coach when the coach we have is clearly not even up to JC standards at this time. Labagh is definitely a good coach and would be a major upgrade for Cal right now.
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bearmanpg said:

Lute Olson coached in high school for 13 years before moving to Long Beach City College for 4 years. He went to Long Beach St. to take over for Tarkanian before moving on to Iowa and of course, UA. Right now, I can't understand how anyone could discount a JC coach when the coach we have is clearly not even up to JC standards at this time. Labagh is definitely a good coach and would be a major upgrade for Cal right now.

Not sure if you are implying I discounted him, so I just want to be clear that I did not. I assume the jobs are very different. In some ways, JUCO seems tougher, with near complete roster turnover every year and coaching kids with particular problems that have landed them there. But I also assume there are things a D1 coach has to do that a JUCO coach doesn't have to worry about, including far more competition in recruiting.

My specific question about Labagh is that with all his success, why is he still there? Maybe he likes it. But it's hard to believe D1 money wouldn't be too much to turn down, and so I am wondering if there is some reason no one has hired him away.
bearmanpg
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GMP said:

bearmanpg said:

Lute Olson coached in high school for 13 years before moving to Long Beach City College for 4 years. He went to Long Beach St. to take over for Tarkanian before moving on to Iowa and of course, UA. Right now, I can't understand how anyone could discount a JC coach when the coach we have is clearly not even up to JC standards at this time. Labagh is definitely a good coach and would be a major upgrade for Cal right now.

Not sure if you are implying I discounted him, so I just want to be clear that I did not. I assume the jobs are very different. In some ways, JUCO seems tougher, with near complete roster turnover every year and coaching kids with particular problems that have landed them there. But I also assume there are things a D1 coach has to do that a JUCO coach doesn't have to worry about, including far more competition in recruiting.

My specific question about Labagh is that with all his success, why is he still there? Maybe he likes it. But it's hard to believe D1 money wouldn't be too much to turn down, and so I am wondering if there is some reason no one has hired him away.
I wasn't implying you discounted Labagh, I was just wondering how anyone could discount him considering our current coach. I can't answer your question about Labagh not being hired by someone else but I have heard that he and his wife really like this area.
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bearmanpg said:

GMP said:

bearmanpg said:

Lute Olson coached in high school for 13 years before moving to Long Beach City College for 4 years. He went to Long Beach St. to take over for Tarkanian before moving on to Iowa and of course, UA. Right now, I can't understand how anyone could discount a JC coach when the coach we have is clearly not even up to JC standards at this time. Labagh is definitely a good coach and would be a major upgrade for Cal right now.

Not sure if you are implying I discounted him, so I just want to be clear that I did not. I assume the jobs are very different. In some ways, JUCO seems tougher, with near complete roster turnover every year and coaching kids with particular problems that have landed them there. But I also assume there are things a D1 coach has to do that a JUCO coach doesn't have to worry about, including far more competition in recruiting.

My specific question about Labagh is that with all his success, why is he still there? Maybe he likes it. But it's hard to believe D1 money wouldn't be too much to turn down, and so I am wondering if there is some reason no one has hired him away.
I wasn't implying you discounted Labagh, I was just wondering how anyone could discount him considering our current coach. I can't answer your question about Labagh not being hired by someone else but I have heard that he and his wife really like this area.

Bring him home, and bring all his JUCO players with him. Year 1 solved.
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Pretty rare to make the jump from JC to Pac 12 level. Did he play under Braun? Maybe BB could be his informal mentor, or maybe one of the guys on his staff could be the wise-old-owl type.

Eric McDonough has been suggesting the Loyola-Marymount coach, Stan Johnson, who is about the right age (early 40s) and also has two years as an assistant at ASU (so familiar with recruiting the West). There are lots of hungry young guys who want to move up, we just need an AD who can identify and make the right hire (big ask for us right now, I know).
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