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If he played for the Warriors or the Niners, we would know every last detail about his situation.

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If he played for the Warriors or the Niners, we would know every last detail about his situation.

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He's probably preserving his strength for the rigors of the journey through The Portal.

How many times can you enter the portal without eventually never exiting?

Very nice Time Tunnel reference. Friday nights, right after the Green Hornet on ABC. Got to stay up late to watch it in kindergarten, because it was on Friday. I have the series on DVD.

Sounds like foot issues are going to keep him out for some time.

StrawberryCanyon said:

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Sounds like foot issues are going to keep him out for some time.

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Good.

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Very nice Time Tunnel reference. Friday nights, right after the Green Hornet on ABC. Got to stay up late to watch it in kindergarten, because it was on Friday. I have the series on DVD.

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Still alive and kicking at 86.

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Very nice Time Tunnel reference. Friday nights, right after the Green Hornet on ABC. Got to stay up late to watch it in kindergarten, because it was on Friday. I have the series on DVD.

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Still alive and kicking at 86.

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Also a young Lee Meredith, before she became Barnaby Jones' secretary. We're really dating ourselves here.

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bearister said:

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Jeff82 said:

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Very nice Time Tunnel reference. Friday nights, right after the Green Hornet on ABC. Got to stay up late to watch it in kindergarten, because it was on Friday. I have the series on DVD.

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Still alive and kicking at 86.

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Also a young Lee Meredith, before she became Barnaby Jones' secretary. We're really dating ourselves here.

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Lee Meriwether wasn't THAT young on Time Tunnel, she won Miss America on September 11, 1954 at age 19, 12 years before Time Tunnel hit the air when she was a relatively ancient 31. She also played Catwoman in the Adam West Batman movie released the summer before Time Tunnel hit the air.

Meriwether was an ancient 37 by the time Barnaby Jones hit the air. She played Barnaby Jones' daughter-in-law as well as secretary, Barnaby having retired and left the detective agency to his son, but came out of retirement to solve his son's murder. William Conrad as Frank Cannon helped solve the murder.

While Meriwether had been in the spotlight for 12 years when Time Tunnel hit the air, the composer of the Time Tunnel theme, John Williams, at age 34, wasn't all that big a deal in 1966. The first episode of Time Tunnel involved a luxury liner disaster, the Titanic, and John William's movie career really started to take off after another luxury liner disaster, the Poseidon Adventure. After Time Tunnel and before Poseidon Adventure, Williams did get a couple of nominations for best score (Valley of the Dolls and Goodbye Mr. Chips), and won an Oscar for the score adaptation of Fiddler on the Roof, but it really was the Irwin Allen disaster films starting with Poseidon that helped him be bigger, get Sugarland Express with Spielberg, and then truly become "John Williams" with Jaws that got him his first Oscar for purely his own stuff.

I always thought that the captain of the Titanic deserved to die for not listening to Tony and Doug until realizing that apparently Project Tic-Toc brought Tony and Doug to an alternate universe, since the captain Tony and Doug tried to persuade was Captain Malcolm, and in our universe he was Captain Smith.

While I don't want to date either myself or you, somehow this is more fun than Cal basketball this season. I think Project Tic-Toc can change the past, do you think we can go back and get Mike Williams to hire Dennis Gates instead of Wyking Jones?

Askew is back.

Now, when is Clayton back? When is Alajiki back?

Bottom line is that we're going to have to take a chance on a Gates-like hire, in my opinion, if we ever manage to get rid of Fox. It's either going to be an assistant ready to move up, or someone that has had success in G5. Anyone from P5 is likely to be a retread.

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Bottom line is that we're going to have to take a chance on a Gates-like hire, in my opinion, if we ever manage to get rid of Fox. It's either going to be an assistant ready to move up, or someone that has had success in G5. Anyone from P5 is likely to be a retread.

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Please, no assistants either. Different job.

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Bottom line is that we're going to have to take a chance on a Gates-like hire, in my opinion, if we ever manage to get rid of Fox. It's either going to be an assistant ready to move up, or someone that has had success in G5. Anyone from P5 is likely to be a retread.

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Well, our default guy is going to be Pasternack. Then there's Legans. EricBear (Eric McDonough) has been suggesting the guy at Loyola Marymount (Stan Johnson). Maybe DeCuire is still interested, but I'm guessing he's sick of being 2nd choice.

Then there are the dozen or so guys around the country who fit that profile, but we don't know (yet).

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Jeff82 said:

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Bottom line is that we're going to have to take a chance on a Gates-like hire, in my opinion, if we ever manage to get rid of Fox. It's either going to be an assistant ready to move up, or someone that has had success in G5. Anyone from P5 is likely to be a retread.

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Well, our default guy is going to be Pasternack. Then there's Legans. EricBear (Eric McDonough) has been suggesting the guy at Loyola Marymount (Stanl Johnson). Maybe DeCuire is still interested, but I'm guessing he's sick of being 2nd choice.

Then there are the dozen or so guys around the country who fit that profile, but we don't know (yet).

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I posted a list of almost 60 candidates last year (and provided it to JK). Potential candidates aren't the issue.

Christ needs to be replaced (I believe she wanted to retire this spring, but was convinced to hang on another year - until June 2024). Then the new Chancellor can replace Knowlton in 2025. Then Fox will be replaced. If anyone was wondering the REAL reason Fox/Knowlton were given extensions - that's your best timeline,

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Big C said:

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Jeff82 said:

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Bottom line is that we're going to have to take a chance on a Gates-like hire, in my opinion, if we ever manage to get rid of Fox. It's either going to be an assistant ready to move up, or someone that has had success in G5. Anyone from P5 is likely to be a retread.

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Well, our default guy is going to be Pasternack. Then there's Legans. EricBear (Eric McDonough) has been suggesting the guy at Loyola Marymount (Stanl Johnson). Maybe DeCuire is still interested, but I'm guessing he's sick of being 2nd choice.

Then there are the dozen or so guys around the country who fit that profile, but we don't know (yet).

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I posted a list of almost 60 candidates last year (and provided it to JK). Potential candidates aren't the issue.

Christ needs to be replaced (I believe she wanted to retire this spring, but was convinced to hang on another year - until June 2024). Then the new Chancellor can replace Knowlton in 2025. Then Fox will be replaced. If anyone was wondering the REAL reason Fox/Knowlton were given extensions - that's your best timeline,

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The one thing is that this overestimates the importance of the AD at _CAL_. Most schools they are the second most important administrator on campus....but at UCB I think that isn't true (at all). The scary thing is that a new chancellor might RETAIN JK because they want to focus on the core part of their job.

Really it is the swim scandal that could force everyone's hand. I remain frankly amazed that this isn't generating a HUGE amount of protest on campus but sadly I think gender and identity politics have minimized the protest momentum. Compare the lack of calling for a head on a pike to Yani. It boggles the mind. My hope is that the internal report just crushes JK and forces Christ to act.

PS. I just want to point out that Cal pays its SWIM COACH the highest salary in the nation (https://swimswam.com/dave-durden-received-a-110000-raise-to-take-over-cal-womens-team/). This is what drives me (and I think Shockey1) just BONKERS. Yes. $390K isn't the same as a football coach making 8 million. But fundamentally that is good coin for someone coaching ina sport that only a very few people care about. You can actually make an argument that Rugby is infinately more popular - at least there is a professional league. And it speaks to priorities when you decide you are willing to pay your swim guy the highest salary in the nation - and yet go ultra cheap on mens basketball. Hmmm....

My understanding, and I think you're aware of this also, is that the boosters that are supporting swimming are also fairly significant academic contributors, which makes that program pretty much sacrosanct. I don't know if the swim coaches' salaries are endowed, as the golf coach's is by a frequent poster on this site. In any event, what we are heading for, I think, is cuts to men's programs that don't support themselves, which in turn permits reductions in women's slots to meet Title IX numerically.

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...The one thing is that this overestimates the importance of the AD at _CAL_. Most schools they are the second most important administrator on campus....but at UCB I think that isn't true (at all). The scary thing is that a new chancellor might RETAIN JK because they want to focus on the core part of their job.....

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So true!

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My understanding, and I think you're aware of this also, is that the boosters that are supporting swimming are also fairly significant academic contributors, which makes that program pretty much sacrosanct. I don't know if the swim coaches' salaries are endowed, as the golf coach's is by a frequent poster on this site. In any event, what we are heading for, I think, is cuts to men's programs that don't support themselves, which in turn permits reductions in women's slots to meet Title IX numerically.

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Yes but......(and it gets even worse)

1) If we assume that swim isn't fully endowed (It may be but I mean ALL endowed - scholarships, salaries, maintenance, opportunity cost for facilities) then it requires subsidies from revenue sports.

2) It is great that they give to the general fund/academic side. Fantastic

3) But the result of that accounting is then in practice what is happening is that the revenue sports are subsidizing the acaedmic giving - draining resources that could be invested into BB and FB into swim and the endowment of chairs. Things that make one go hmmm.......

See #1. If they really have given enough so that there are no xsubidies, great.

(I also am pretty hard core on this. Having a kiddo participate in HS swim it is very much a world of pay to play and exhibits some of the worst aspects of how olympic sports are used to "game" the college admissions system - perpetuated in part because admission officers themselves are a product of this system. It is most definately not about the value of swimming as a phyiscal fitness activity)

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My understanding, and I think you're aware of this also, is that the boosters that are supporting swimming are also fairly significant academic contributors, which makes that program pretty much sacrosanct. I don't know if the swim coaches' salaries are endowed, as the golf coach's is by a frequent poster on this site. In any event, what we are heading for, I think, is cuts to men's programs that don't support themselves, which in turn permits reductions in women's slots to meet Title IX numerically.

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Are the swimming (or other non-revenue) boosters responsible for Knowlton's contract extension? Or for the silence on the McKeever situation? Do they want the revenue sports to decline?

These are questions, not insinuations, because I have no clue what any donors are doing.

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Jeff82 said:

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My understanding, and I think you're aware of this also, is that the boosters that are supporting swimming are also fairly significant academic contributors, which makes that program pretty much sacrosanct. I don't know if the swim coaches' salaries are endowed, as the golf coach's is by a frequent poster on this site. In any event, what we are heading for, I think, is cuts to men's programs that don't support themselves, which in turn permits reductions in women's slots to meet Title IX numerically.

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Are the swimming (or other non-revenue) boosters responsible for Knowlton's contract extension? Or for the silence on the McKeever situation? Do they want the revenue sports to decline?

These are questions, not insinuations, because I have no clue what any donors are doing.

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Drinking beer.