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1:56p, 1/30/23
OK. time to speculate. I tried to do some research

P5/Majors that will be In the market

Texas
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-basketball/texas-basketball-coaching-search-who-are-top-candidates-to-replace-chris-beard

Old Miss
https://www.coachesdatabase.com/college-basketball-hot-seat-report/
(Even if just to acknowledge that an underperforming 63 year old coach is in trouble)

Georgetown (But unsure that it is really a good job anymore since no football and the 1980s are not calling for big monday anymore).


Who else do you think will be "in the market"? As of today I am actually pretty happy because Cal COULD be in the market in a year when you don't have a ton of schools competing.

(here in the west coast Oregon State is the unknown. I just don't think a change is coming with the uncertainty over football and the existential threat that poses for Oregon State but I could be wrong).


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In reply to socaltownie • 2:15p, 1/30/23
socaltownie said:
OK. time to speculate. I tried to do some research

P5/Majors that will be In the market

Texas
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-basketball/texas-basketball-coaching-search-who-are-top-candidates-to-replace-chris-beard

Old Miss
https://www.coachesdatabase.com/college-basketball-hot-seat-report/
(Even if just to acknowledge that an underperforming 63 year old coach is in trouble)

Georgetown (But unsure that it is really a good job anymore since no football and the 1980s are not calling for big monday anymore).


Who else do you think will be "in the market"? As of today I am actually pretty happy because Cal COULD be in the market in a year when you don't have a ton of schools competing.

(here in the west coast Oregon State is the unknown. I just don't think a change is coming with the uncertainty over football and the existential threat that poses for Oregon State but I could be wrong).




Stanford and UW

Hopkins won PAC-12 COY his first two years at UW but has bombed out the last three. He is yet another example of a defense first guy (scrapper himself as a player) who follows a decent recruiter and achieves better or great success by getting the existing talented players to play better defense (in his case a good defensive system)), but his style and personality makes him a poor recruiter (especially on the West Coast) and his results go down from there. Fox's pattern at Nevada, Georgia and Cal is similar (though we had a MUCH lower bump because Fox is a retread and known entity so the players fled). Plus, the PAC-12 is now familiar with the Syracuse zone. Hopkins' middling results now are what Knowlton hoped for from Fox, but is not acceptable at UW.
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In reply to calumnus • 3:06p, 1/30/23
calumnus said:
socaltownie said:
OK. time to speculate. I tried to do some research

P5/Majors that will be In the market

Texas
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-basketball/texas-basketball-coaching-search-who-are-top-candidates-to-replace-chris-beard

Old Miss
https://www.coachesdatabase.com/college-basketball-hot-seat-report/
(Even if just to acknowledge that an underperforming 63 year old coach is in trouble)

Georgetown (But unsure that it is really a good job anymore since no football and the 1980s are not calling for big monday anymore).


Who else do you think will be "in the market"? As of today I am actually pretty happy because Cal COULD be in the market in a year when you don't have a ton of schools competing.

(here in the west coast Oregon State is the unknown. I just don't think a change is coming with the uncertainty over football and the existential threat that poses for Oregon State but I could be wrong).




Stanford and UW

Hopkins won PAC-12 COY his first two years at UW but has bombed out the last three. He is yet another example of a defense first guy (scrapper himself as a player) who follows a decent recruiter and achieves better or great success by getting the existing talented players to play better defense (in his case a good defensive system)), but his style and personality makes him a poor recruiter (especially on the West Coast) and his results go down from there. Fox's pattern at Nevada, Georgia and Cal is similar (though we had a MUCH lower bump because Fox is a retread and known entity so the players fled). Plus, the PAC-12 is now familiar with the Syracuse zone. Hopkins' middling results now are what Knowlton hoped for from Fox, but is not acceptable at UW.
I don't think Haas is gone but definately on hot seat.
Hopkins is interesting. His compensation makes both expectations AND buyout so expensive. Lesson learned to be cautious about handing out HUGE extensions after one good seaon.
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3:52p, 1/30/23
This was brought up on another thread. What would y'all think about Pitino
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In reply to eastcoastcal • 3:59p, 1/30/23
eastcoastcal said:
This was brought up on another thread. What would y'all think about Pitino
I would assume that Pitino has too much baggage for a place like Cal (I'm assuming you mean the elder Pitino, not his son). When Wyking was the coach here there was at least some talk of whether he had any role in Pitino's wrongdoings at Louisville; I find it hard to believe that Pitino would be palatable to anyone in the administration here.

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In reply to eastcoastcal • 4:01p, 1/30/23
eastcoastcal said:
This was brought up on another thread. What would y'all think about Pitino
HATE Pitino. HATE it. The problem is that the scandal will be a lightening rod for all the sports haters on campus. Same thing with bay area media. Mysogny and all that. He is a great coach but can't work here.

(And it isn't even that they get a veto....it is that we will never get past that story. It will hurt fundraising. It will detract from the product on the court. Probably work to the detriment of Student athletes).
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4:02p, 1/30/23
Look here for the competition:
https://www.coachesdatabase.com/college-basketball-hot-seat-report/
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In reply to socaltownie • 4:15p, 1/30/23
socaltownie said:
eastcoastcal said:
This was brought up on another thread. What would y'all think about Pitino
HATE Pitino. HATE it. The problem is that the scandal will be a lightening rod for all the sports haters on campus. Same thing with bay area media. Mysogny and all that. He is a great coach but can't work here.

(And it isn't even that they get a veto....it is that we will never get past that story. It will hurt fundraising. It will detract from the product on the court. Probably work to the detriment of Student athletes).
This is true - Pitino is a really bad cultural fit for Cal. But in looking at his bio on wikipedia, I saw Mark Pope who started his college playing career at UW, finished at UK under Pitino (winning a NC), and is now the successful HC at BYU. Looking at Pope's bio, after a short NBA career he apparently went to med school at Columbia, so a smart guy. However he did not complete it because he was lured to be an assistant coach at Georgia under . . . Mark Fox.
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In reply to calumnus • 4:57p, 1/30/23
calumnus said:
socaltownie said:
OK. time to speculate. I tried to do some research

P5/Majors that will be In the market

Texas
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-basketball/texas-basketball-coaching-search-who-are-top-candidates-to-replace-chris-beard

Old Miss
https://www.coachesdatabase.com/college-basketball-hot-seat-report/
(Even if just to acknowledge that an underperforming 63 year old coach is in trouble)

Georgetown (But unsure that it is really a good job anymore since no football and the 1980s are not calling for big monday anymore).


Who else do you think will be "in the market"? As of today I am actually pretty happy because Cal COULD be in the market in a year when you don't have a ton of schools competing.

(here in the west coast Oregon State is the unknown. I just don't think a change is coming with the uncertainty over football and the existential threat that poses for Oregon State but I could be wrong).




Stanford and UW

Hopkins won PAC-12 COY his first two years at UW but has bombed out the last three. He is yet another example of a defense first guy (scrapper himself as a player) who follows a decent recruiter and achieves better or great success by getting the existing talented players to play better defense (in his case a good defensive system)), but his style and personality makes him a poor recruiter (especially on the West Coast) and his results go down from there. Fox's pattern at Nevada, Georgia and Cal is similar (though we had a MUCH lower bump because Fox is a retread and known entity so the players fled). Plus, the PAC-12 is now familiar with the Syracuse zone. Hopkins' middling results now are what Knowlton hoped for from Fox, but is not acceptable at UW.
Hopkins is exactly the kind of guy Knowlton would go for as the next Cal MBB head coach.
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In reply to Golden One • 5:07p, 1/30/23
Golden One said:
calumnus said:
socaltownie said:
OK. time to speculate. I tried to do some research

P5/Majors that will be In the market

Texas
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-basketball/texas-basketball-coaching-search-who-are-top-candidates-to-replace-chris-beard

Old Miss
https://www.coachesdatabase.com/college-basketball-hot-seat-report/
(Even if just to acknowledge that an underperforming 63 year old coach is in trouble)

Georgetown (But unsure that it is really a good job anymore since no football and the 1980s are not calling for big monday anymore).


Who else do you think will be "in the market"? As of today I am actually pretty happy because Cal COULD be in the market in a year when you don't have a ton of schools competing.

(here in the west coast Oregon State is the unknown. I just don't think a change is coming with the uncertainty over football and the existential threat that poses for Oregon State but I could be wrong).




Stanford and UW

Hopkins won PAC-12 COY his first two years at UW but has bombed out the last three. He is yet another example of a defense first guy (scrapper himself as a player) who follows a decent recruiter and achieves better or great success by getting the existing talented players to play better defense (in his case a good defensive system)), but his style and personality makes him a poor recruiter (especially on the West Coast) and his results go down from there. Fox's pattern at Nevada, Georgia and Cal is similar (though we had a MUCH lower bump because Fox is a retread and known entity so the players fled). Plus, the PAC-12 is now familiar with the Syracuse zone. Hopkins' middling results now are what Knowlton hoped for from Fox, but is not acceptable at UW.
Hopkins is exactly the kind of guy Knowlton would go for as the next Cal MBB head coach.
#1 on the search firm's list, eh??
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5:15p, 1/30/23

We are probably looking for a young up-and-comer with people skills, who is going to work his azz off to recruit (especially) and also to promote the program (to donors and to prospective fans). X's and )'s gotta be at least "solid". Willing to work for lower-end-of-the-conference salary (still a lot!), knowing that more money will come with demonstrated success.

Probably should have demonstrated success as a HC, at some level. (This is why I didn't like Gates, until Cleveland St.)

If no connection to Cal, must at least be willing and able to quickly figure Cal out and adapt.

Probably should be able to recruit SoCal... hard.

Can't mention Pasternack (), so I will mention Shantay Legans.
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In reply to Big C • 5:21p, 1/30/23
Big C said:

We are probably looking for a young up-and-comer with people skills, who is going to work his azz off to recruit (especially) and also to promote the program (to donors and to prospective fans). X's and )'s gotta be at least "solid". Willing to work for lower-end-of-the-conference salary (still a lot!), knowing that more money will come with demonstrated success.

Probably should have demonstrated success as a HC, at some level. (This is why I didn't like Gates, until Cleveland St.)

If no connection to Cal, must at least be willing and able to quickly figure Cal out and adapt.

Probably should be able to recruit SoCal... hard.

Can't mention Pasternack (), so I will mention Shantay Legans.
We SHOULD be looking for the type of head coach you summarized; however, Ii doubt that would be the kind of coach Knowlton will be looking for. He seems to like retreads with a similar bland personality to his. The type of person he "can be comfortable with".
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5:32p, 1/30/23
not only outside the envelope, there is no envelope.

Coach K...a new challenge; 1-2 years to make his imprint on an academic school...great challenge.....

the straight jacket they just put on is a bit tight
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Pac 12 I suspect Hopkins and Hasse are gone. I think Haase was under an ultimatum to win or else. Hopkins only because Udub seems to have money to throw around.

Salary wise, I don't see thinking about who Texas is considering as relevant.

Dennis Gates, if he will have us and we will pay sufficiently, seems to check off a lot of boxes.

Mark Madsen at Utah Valley and NBA Development League would be an interesting choice. Light on D1 coaching obviously.

Drew Valentine at Loyola Chicago looks like a winner, but probably is not on the search firm's radar.

Legans at Portland and the guy mentioned in the OP any UCSB, though they both come with some Cal baggage.

Then there all the guys the stupid search firm will come-up with.

I really don't trust JK with this decision.
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In reply to CalLifer • 8:56p, 1/30/23
CalLifer said:
eastcoastcal said:
This was brought up on another thread. What would y'all think about Pitino
I would assume that Pitino has too much baggage for a place like Cal (I'm assuming you mean the elder Pitino, not his son). When Wyking was the coach here there was at least some talk of whether he had any role in Pitino's wrongdoings at Louisville; I find it hard to believe that Pitino would be palatable to anyone in the administration here.



Actually his son, Richard Pitino Jr. might be the better candidate anyway. His Minnesota record was kind of Fox like in results (with higher highs, lower lows, player scandals…) but but he currently has New Mexico at 19-3, #45 in Ken Pom but with the #35 offense. Also importantly, he is recruiting SoCal (plus Texas) aggressively.
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In reply to wifeisafurd • 9:02p, 1/30/23
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Pac 12 I suspect Hopkins and Hasse are gone. I think Haase was under an ultimatum to win or else. Hopkins only because Udub seems to have money to throw around.

Salary wise, I don't see thinking about who Texas is considering as relevant.

Dennis Gates, if he will have us and we will pay sufficiently, seems to check off a lot of boxes.

Mark Madsen at Utah Valley and NBA Development League would be an interesting choice. Light on D1 coaching obviously.

Drew Valentine at Loyola Chicago looks like a winner, but probably is not on the search firm's radar.

Legans at Portland and the guy mentioned in the OP any UCSB, though they both come with some Cal baggage.

Then there all the guys the stupid search firm will come-up with.

I really don't trust JK with this decision.


Shareef Abdur-Rahim for AD. His predecessor as president of the NBA G League, Malcolm Turner, stepped down to take the AD job at Vanderbilt. Shareef's son Jabri was a Top 30 player in the 2020 class and is currently Georgia's most valuable player statistically despite not having started once. He is leading the team in 3 pt shooting with a .392. Make Shareef AD, let him pick a HC and Jabri transfers to Cal.
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In reply to calumnus • 9:10p, 1/30/23
calumnus said:
wifeisafurd said:


Pac 12 I suspect Hopkins and Hasse are gone. I think Haase was under an ultimatum to win or else. Hopkins only because Udub seems to have money to throw around.

Salary wise, I don't see thinking about who Texas is considering as relevant.

Dennis Gates, if he will have us and we will pay sufficiently, seems to check off a lot of boxes.

Mark Madsen at Utah Valley and NBA Development League would be an interesting choice. Light on D1 coaching obviously.

Drew Valentine at Loyola Chicago looks like a winner, but probably is not on the search firm's radar.

Legans at Portland and the guy mentioned in the OP any UCSB, though they both come with some Cal baggage.

Then there all the guys the stupid search firm will come-up with.

I really don't trust JK with this decision.


Shareef Abdur-Rahim for AD
Why not Sean Marks for AD?
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In reply to eastcoastcal • 9:58p, 1/30/23
eastcoastcal said:
This was brought up on another thread. What would y'all think about Pitino


Which Pitino? Loverboy Pitino or little Pitino?
"Those who say don't know, and those who know don't say." - LT
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In reply to ncbears • 10:12p, 1/30/23
ncbears said:
calumnus said:
wifeisafurd said:


Pac 12 I suspect Hopkins and Hasse are gone. I think Haase was under an ultimatum to win or else. Hopkins only because Udub seems to have money to throw around.

Salary wise, I don't see thinking about who Texas is considering as relevant.

Dennis Gates, if he will have us and we will pay sufficiently, seems to check off a lot of boxes.

Mark Madsen at Utah Valley and NBA Development League would be an interesting choice. Light on D1 coaching obviously.

Drew Valentine at Loyola Chicago looks like a winner, but probably is not on the search firm's radar.

Legans at Portland and the guy mentioned in the OP any UCSB, though they both come with some Cal baggage.

Then there all the guys the stupid search firm will come-up with.

I really don't trust JK with this decision.


Shareef Abdur-Rahim for AD
Why not Sean Marks for AD?


Shareef Abdul-Rahim
Sean Marks
Amy Trask
Cynt Marshall
Paraag Marathe

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In reply to joe amos yaks • 10:12p, 1/30/23
joe amos yaks said:
eastcoastcal said:
This was brought up on another thread. What would y'all think about Pitino


Which Pitino? Loverboy Pitino or little Pitino?


I think the son at New Mexico is worth considering.
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In reply to calumnus • 10:22p, 1/30/23
son or no son, he would be the dream hire

calumnus said:
wifeisafurd said:


Pac 12 I suspect Hopkins and Hasse are gone. I think Haase was under an ultimatum to win or else. Hopkins only because Udub seems to have money to throw around.

Salary wise, I don't see thinking about who Texas is considering as relevant.

Dennis Gates, if he will have us and we will pay sufficiently, seems to check off a lot of boxes.

Mark Madsen at Utah Valley and NBA Development League would be an interesting choice. Light on D1 coaching obviously.

Drew Valentine at Loyola Chicago looks like a winner, but probably is not on the search firm's radar.

Legans at Portland and the guy mentioned in the OP any UCSB, though they both come with some Cal baggage.

Then there all the guys the stupid search firm will come-up with.

I really don't trust JK with this decision.


Shareef Abdur-Rahim for AD. His predecessor as president of the NBA G League, Malcolm Turner, stepped down to take the AD job at Vanderbilt. Shareef's son Jabri was a Top 30 player in the 2020 class and is currently Georgia's most valuable player statistically despite not having started once. He is leading the team in 3 pt shooting with a .392. Make Shareef AD, let him pick a HC and Jabri transfers to Cal.
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In reply to HoopDreams • 9:10a, 1/31/23
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son or no son, he would be the dream hire
Richard Pitino couldn't really cut it at his Power 5 gig at Minnesota. And aside from this season, his performance was trending downwards.

I don't like the fact that he doesn't have California ties but maybe he's developing them now at UNM. Gotta believe he's knows the importance of recruiting given his pedigree.

The good: he has P5 experience, he's young (40), he's a name that would energize the program.

The bad: Minnesota and Cal are similar in a lot of respects. That evidence there wouldn't suggest he would succeed here. He's an east coast guy; not familiar with UC and Berkeley dysfunction/hurdles.

He'd be a massive improvement over Fox (who wouldn't?). But I think we can do better.
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In reply to BC Calfan • 9:35a, 1/31/23
BC Calfan said:
HoopDreams said:
son or no son, he would be the dream hire
Richard Pitino couldn't really cut it at his Power 5 gig at Minnesota. And aside from this season, his performance was trending downwards.

I don't like the fact that he doesn't have California ties but maybe he's developing them now at UNM. Gotta believe he's knows the importance of recruiting given his pedigree.

The good: he has P5 experience, he's young (40), he's a name that would energize the program.

The bad: Minnesota and Cal are similar in a lot of respects. That evidence there wouldn't suggest he would succeed here. He's an east coast guy; not familiar with UC and Berkeley dysfunction/hurdles.

He'd be a massive improvement over Fox (who wouldn't?). But I think we can do better.
It is no contest between he who shall not be named (thread subject) and Richard P.

P5 HC experience is VASTLY overrated. See Fox (and JK's thinking)

1) Cal can't/won't compete in the same waters that UT plays in. So yeah - it would be GREAT to pick up a P5 coach who was successful and bring them to Cal. Not likely. So in our "budget" a P5 experience means experience with LOSING.

1.5) Martin and Monty were VERY unique cases. Monty after his trail run at the NBA and the Martin because of the *******ry of the UT fans. It also could be he case that Martin frankly got out while getting was good at UT - sorta his career trajectory :-)

2) Most P5 programs that do well in rebuilding find a good midmajor guy.

Now maybe the donors surprise. But I doubt they reach deep for a 3 to 4 million a year salary for someone amazing.
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In reply to wifeisafurd • 10:38a, 1/31/23
wifeisafurd said:


Pac 12 I suspect Hopkins and Hasse are gone. I think Haase was under an ultimatum to win or else. Hopkins only because Udub seems to have money to throw around.

Salary wise, I don't see thinking about who Texas is considering as relevant.

Dennis Gates, if he will have us and we will pay sufficiently, seems to check off a lot of boxes.

Mark Madsen at Utah Valley and NBA Development League would be an interesting choice. Light on D1 coaching obviously.

Drew Valentine at Loyola Chicago looks like a winner, but probably is not on the search firm's radar.

Legans at Portland and the guy mentioned in the OP any UCSB, though they both come with some Cal baggage.

Then there all the guys the stupid search firm will come-up with.

I really don't trust JK with this decision.
FWIW, I sent a list of 60 candidates to JK last year that included some of these. Drew Valentine and Todd Golden were two that I highlighted as deserving of priority scrutiny.
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In reply to ncbears • 11:11a, 1/31/23
ncbears said:
calumnus said:
wifeisafurd said:


Pac 12 I suspect Hopkins and Hasse are gone. I think Haase was under an ultimatum to win or else. Hopkins only because Udub seems to have money to throw around.

Salary wise, I don't see thinking about who Texas is considering as relevant.

Dennis Gates, if he will have us and we will pay sufficiently, seems to check off a lot of boxes.

Mark Madsen at Utah Valley and NBA Development League would be an interesting choice. Light on D1 coaching obviously.

Drew Valentine at Loyola Chicago looks like a winner, but probably is not on the search firm's radar.

Legans at Portland and the guy mentioned in the OP any UCSB, though they both come with some Cal baggage.

Then there all the guys the stupid search firm will come-up with.

I really don't trust JK with this decision.


Shareef Abdur-Rahim for AD
Why not Sean Marks for AD?
He has a better gig right now.
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In reply to Big C • 11:27a, 1/31/23
Big C said:

We are probably looking for a young up-and-comer with people skills, who is going to work his azz off to recruit (especially) and also to promote the program (to donors and to prospective fans). X's and )'s gotta be at least "solid". Willing to work for lower-end-of-the-conference salary (still a lot!), knowing that more money will come with demonstrated success.

Probably should have demonstrated success as a HC, at some level. (This is why I didn't like Gates, until Cleveland St.)

If no connection to Cal, must at least be willing and able to quickly figure Cal out and adapt.

Probably should be able to recruit SoCal... hard.

Can't mention Pasternack (), so I will mention Shantay Legans.
This absolutely is what Cal should be looking for. It is what Cal should have been looking for the last time around. And the time before that. Cal almost never does and I have zero faith Knowlton will even bother educating himself enough to understand what's actually needed.

To hell with P5 head coaching experience. I'd be looking at guys with head coaching experience at smaller programs, like Pasternack, Legans and Stan Johnson at Loyola Marymount. Or top assistants at good major programs. Retread head coaches from P5 schools tend to be available because they couldn't hack it AND more expensive.
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In reply to bluesaxe • 12:23p, 1/31/23
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To hell with P5 head coaching experience. I'd be looking at guys with head coaching experience at smaller programs, like Pasternack, Legans and Stan Johnson at Loyola Marymount.
That's the first (and last) place I'd look.

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Or top assistants at good major programs.
Dick Kuchen didn't do that well at Cal. Nor did any of our own assistants who were promoted to HC.
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1:24p, 1/31/23
What about Chris Mack? Recruited very well at Xavier & Louisville and I believe his violations were recording an assistant who attempted to extort him, which went against university policy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Mack_(basketball)

Don't know much about him but seems very successful at both coaching and recruiting, and his transgression seems minor, no? Someone can clue me in if this is accurate or not
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In reply to stu • 1:30p, 1/31/23
stu said:
bluesaxe said:
To hell with P5 head coaching experience. I'd be looking at guys with head coaching experience at smaller programs, like Pasternack, Legans and Stan Johnson at Loyola Marymount.
That's the first (and last) place I'd look.

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Or top assistants at good major programs.
Dick Kuchen didn't do that well at Cal. Nor did any of our own assistants who were promoted to HC.


You need someone who really understands what it takes to be a good head coach to see that in an assistant and promote them to head coach. Far safer to hire someone who has proven themselves as a head coach at a lower level.
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In reply to stu • 1:32p, 1/31/23
stu said:
bluesaxe said:
To hell with P5 head coaching experience. I'd be looking at guys with head coaching experience at smaller programs, like Pasternack, Legans and Stan Johnson at Loyola Marymount.
That's the first (and last) place I'd look.

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Or top assistants at good major programs.
Dick Kuchen didn't do that well at Cal. Nor did any of our own assistants who were promoted to HC.


DeCuire would have been good.
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In reply to calumnus • 2:09p, 1/31/23
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Pac 12 I suspect Hopkins and Hasse are gone. I think Haase was under an ultimatum to win or else. Hopkins only because Udub seems to have money to throw around.

Salary wise, I don't see thinking about who Texas is considering as relevant.

Dennis Gates, if he will have us and we will pay sufficiently, seems to check off a lot of boxes.

Mark Madsen at Utah Valley and NBA Development League would be an interesting choice. Light on D1 coaching obviously.

Drew Valentine at Loyola Chicago looks like a winner, but probably is not on the search firm's radar.

Legans at Portland and the guy mentioned in the OP any UCSB, though they both come with some Cal baggage.

Then there all the guys the stupid search firm will come-up with.

I really don't trust JK with this decision.


Shareef Abdur-Rahim for AD
Why not Sean Marks for AD?


Shareef Abdul-Rahim
Sean Marks
Amy Trask
Cynt Marshall
Paraag Marathe



Why not just throw Farhan Zaidi in there as well. Maybe Larry Baer?

Hell, bob myers will probably be looking for a new job by next year. Local kid, went to ucla. Why not
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In reply to eastcoastcal • 2:37p, 1/31/23
eastcoastcal said:
What about Chris Mack? Recruited very well at Xavier & Louisville and I believe his violations were recording an assistant who attempted to extort him, which went against university policy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Mack_(basketball)

Don't know much about him but seems very successful at both coaching and recruiting, and his transgression seems minor, no? Someone can clue me in if this is accurate or not
I like it! 3 Sweet 16s and an Elite Eight on his resume.


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In reply to stu • 9:10a, 2/1/23
stu said:
bluesaxe said:
To hell with P5 head coaching experience. I'd be looking at guys with head coaching experience at smaller programs, like Pasternack, Legans and Stan Johnson at Loyola Marymount.
That's the first (and last) place I'd look.

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Or top assistants at good major programs.
Dick Kuchen didn't do that well at Cal. Nor did any of our own assistants who were promoted to HC.
No. He didn't. But dredging up a name from the 70's to make a point seems a stretch. Let's counter with Jerome Tang and Tommy Lloyd.

My first choice was head coaches from smaller programs. Just don't give me some retread just because he was a head coach at a big school somewhere. Those guys aren't available if they were good at it.
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In reply to ducky23 • 10:07a, 2/1/23
Bob will never have to look for a job as long as Wasserman's alive. Made man.
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1:43p, 2/1/23
Shareef Abdur-Rahim for AD. LBJ for coach. Instead of playing with Bronny in the NBA, he can retire and coach Bronny and guide him to the NBA.

Bring in Jabri and Bronny.
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