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AZ has the two 6-11, 7-1 players, and also played extremely fast most of the game, running even on Cal made baskets

We lost the game due to:

AZ offensive rebounds that put our defense on scramble so AZ shooters got wide open shots

AZ's inside out passing with Cal defense trying to stop the AZ big, leading to wide-open shots

AZ run and gun, with Cal not being to keep pace

After slow start, Cal shot and scored well

But the speed of the game resulted in THREE Cal players cramping

So yes, our players left it all on the court despite being over matched

Mark Fox and Jim Knowlton - agents for the enemy.

No doubt Cal players are tough and battle all game - THEY DESERVE BETTER

Golden One said:

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Gotta give this Golden Bear team credit. They played hard and with lots of energy tonight. They were just matched against a vastly more talented team. Given the incredible talent disparity, I'm pleasantly surprised that we came as close as we did. The game was within 9 to 15 points for all of the game until the final few minutes.

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Sam started off the season slow, and I thought he wasn't fullfilling the potential I saw in his freshmen season, but he's turned it up a bit recently ... more assertive, yet playing under control, and making some big plays

Lars had a good game, but there was a play where a guard was defending him. He went up for a short hook and missed. Very reliable shot for him, but if he realized who was guarding him, he could have turned around and just dunked it

Grant has struggled lately. His reliable mid-range jumper isn't going down... maybe teams have focused on him more, or he is just going through one of those periods that all players have

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Starring at myself in the mirror in my room at the cheapest motel in Kelseyville, wonder if I should have moved 5 bills on the Bears at the Konocti Vista Casino….even though they had the spread wrong and gave me 30.

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No show at the Joe Mazzola Pavilion tonight? Also, I used to live in Kelseyville. There's only one motel there, but there is a nice brew pub on Main Street, or at least there was the last time I was there. Or you could go old school at the Brick Tavern, where Olympia is considered a microbrew.

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bearister said:

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Starring at myself in the mirror in my room at the cheapest motel in Kelseyville, wonder if I should have moved 5 bills on the Bears at the Konocti Vista Casino….even though they had the spread wrong and gave me 30.

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I went to high school in Kelseyville! Keggers in the pear orchards y'all

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You knw Bob Gomez? He was the principal at Kelseyville High, and then the superintendent of the school distrct. Nice man, decent tennis player.

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The b@stard they named the town after sexually abused and murdered many Pomo. When they finally arrow-ed him, the army slaughtered 200.

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Absolutely true. The Pomos didn't start to get even until the first Indian casinos opened. Unfortunately the people over in Clearlake Oaks created a problem when they started shooting at each other.

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bearister said:

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Starring at myself in the mirror in my room at the cheapest motel in Kelseyville, wonder if I should have moved 5 bills on the Bears at the Konocti Vista Casino….even though they had the spread wrong and gave me 30.

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No show at the Joe Mazzola Pavilion tonight? Also, I used to live in Kelseyville. There's only one motel there, but there is a nice brew pub on Main Street, or at least there was the last time I was there. Or you could go old school at the Brick Tavern, where Olympia is considered a microbrew.

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I did drop the 5 bills on Cal, paid extra vig to get 30, and covered by 7. I then spent most of it partying with my biker buddies up there.

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bearister said:

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Starring at myself in the mirror in my room at the cheapest motel in Kelseyville, wonder if I should have moved 5 bills on the Bears at the Konocti Vista Casino….even though they had the spread wrong and gave me 30.

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No show at the Joe Mazzola Pavilion tonight? Also, I used to live in Kelseyville. There's only one motel there, but there is a nice brew pub on Main Street, or at least there was the last time I was there. Or you could go old school at the Brick Tavern, where Olympia is considered a microbrew.

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I did drop the 5 bills on Cal, paid extra vig to get 30, and covered by 7. I then spent most of it partying with my biker buddies up there.

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Meth is cheap there, because you're close to the cooker.

I may have some work related travel to the Fremont/Union City area. What is the best pizza in those parts (I suppose you can include San Jose and parts of the Peninsula)?

Shout out to OD for being a real one.

KoreAmBear said:

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I may have some work related travel to the Fremont/Union City area. What is the best pizza in those parts (I suppose you can include San Jose and parts of the Peninsula)?

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I don't know Fremont well, but in San Jose, the best pizza, IMHO, is a hole-in-the-wall on Stevens Creek Boulevard called A Slice of New York. It's quite authentic, according to my stepmother who is from Brooklyn.

If you like Chicago-style, Patxi's is decent, but not as good as the now-closed Windy City in San Mateo, or Zachary's in Oakland.

Blue Line is also good, but not as good as A Slice of NY.

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Blue Line is also good, but not as good as A Slice of NY.

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Is it traditional NY style (the floppy kind) or Neopolitan style?

I will have to check that out. Yah for Chicago I still swear by Zachary's. Probably will have to hit that up too. Thanks!

MoragaBear said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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I may have some work related travel to the Fremont/Union City area. What is the best pizza in those parts (I suppose you can include San Jose and parts of the Peninsula)?

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I like Blue Line Pizza. They're next to San Jose in Campbell, though I've only been to the Danville location. They have good corn meal crust deep dish and also thin crust.

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Thanks Moraga. I will put that on my list.

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Blue Line is also good, but not as good as A Slice of NY.

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Is it traditional NY style (the floppy kind) or Neopolitan style?

I will have to check that out. Yah for Chicago I still swear by Zachary's. Probably will have to hit that up too. Thanks!

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Floppy. You flip the pointed end over, squeeze in the sides, and take a bite, trying not to scald the roof of your mouth in the process.

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KoreAmBear said:

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Jeff82 said:

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Blue Line is also good, but not as good as A Slice of NY.

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Is it traditional NY style (the floppy kind) or Neopolitan style?

I will have to check that out. Yah for Chicago I still swear by Zachary's. Probably will have to hit that up too. Thanks!

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Floppy. You flip the pointed end over, squeeze in the sides, and take a bite, trying not to scald the roof of your mouth in the process.

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Yes I grew up eating the fold over NY style slices. I like Neopolitan (which seems to have taken over as the dominant gourmet pizza), but real NY slices have a place in my heart and stomach.

KoreAmBear said:

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I may have some work related travel to the Fremont/Union City area. What is the best pizza in those parts (I suppose you can include San Jose and parts of the Peninsula)?

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Fremont might be the best place in the US to try Indian-style pizza, there might be five or six places, all pretty good (check the ratings).

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KoreAmBear said:

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I may have some work related travel to the Fremont/Union City area. What is the best pizza in those parts (I suppose you can include San Jose and parts of the Peninsula)?

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Fremont might be the best place in the US to try Indian-style pizza, there might be five or six places, all pretty good (check the ratings).

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I saw that. I want some good Indian food too. Hard to get in Hawaii.

MoragaBear said:

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I've rarely seen Neopoliton in the bay. Arinell offers it but I only see people buying slices. And Golden Boy in SF is known for it.

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The original Pizaria Delfina in the Mission is my favorite, but you can find Neapolitan-style pizza at just about every upscale authentic Italian (ie not American-Italian/red-gravy) restaurant in the Bay Area these days. Golden Boy does not offer Neopolitan. It's more like their version of a Sicilian (square focaccia).

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Civil Bear said:

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MoragaBear said:

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I've rarely seen Neopoliton in the bay. Arinell offers it but I only see people buying slices. And Golden Boy in SF is known for it.

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The original Pizaria Delfina in the Mission is my favorite, but you can find Neapolitan-style pizza at just about every upscale authentic Italian (ie not American-Italian/red-gravy) restaurant in the Bay Area these days. Golden Boy does not offer Neopolitan. It's more like their version of a Sicilian (square focaccia).

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I stand corrected. Regardless, I've always favored traditional slices but when it comes down to it, flavor is ultimately the most important element to me. I like a sweet San Marzano tomato sauce, some flavorful cheese and a couple tasty meat toppings and I'm good, though I'm okay with an occasional Margherita if it has good flavor and is not too plain.

I've never understood the idea of folding a slice. It's like a wall of crust to me. I want the flavor, not the crust.

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I'm with you there! Sounds like you are a fan of Neapolitan pizza when done right: tender yet crispy and airy crust, San Marzano tomato sauce, and fewer ingredients, all baked in a 900-degree oven within minutes. However, too much sauce and ingredients, or not cooked at high enough temps can leave the center soggy. I highly recommend seeking out Pizzaria Delfina, but I can only vouch for their original location in SF.

PS: Neopolitan-style pizza must be eaten on location, The more tender crust will not hold up to takeout.

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KoreAmBear said:

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I may have some work related travel to the Fremont/Union City area. What is the best pizza in those parts (I suppose you can include San Jose and parts of the Peninsula)?

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Fremont might be the best place in the US to try Indian-style pizza, there might be five or six places, all pretty good (check the ratings).

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You can't beat a good Native American pizza

Yes, was KUSD superintendent when I was in school

Civil Bear said:

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MoragaBear said:

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I've rarely seen Neopoliton in the bay. Arinell offers it but I only see people buying slices. And Golden Boy in SF is known for it.

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The original Pizaria Delfina in the Mission is my favorite, but you can find Neapolitan-style pizza at just about every upscale authentic Italian (ie not American-Italian/red-gravy) restaurant in the Bay Area these days. Golden Boy does not offer Neopolitan. It's more like their version of a Sicilian (square focaccia).

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I loved Delfina's other restaurant next door which I believe closed down a few years ago? They had this grilled calamari starter dish that was just amazing. And the pastas were really fresh and well made.

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MoragaBear said:

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Civil Bear said:

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MoragaBear said:

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I've rarely seen Neopoliton in the bay. Arinell offers it but I only see people buying slices. And Golden Boy in SF is known for it.

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The original Pizaria Delfina in the Mission is my favorite, but you can find Neapolitan-style pizza at just about every upscale authentic Italian (ie not American-Italian/red-gravy) restaurant in the Bay Area these days. Golden Boy does not offer Neopolitan. It's more like their version of a Sicilian (square focaccia).

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I stand corrected. Regardless, I've always favored traditional slices but when it comes down to it, flavor is ultimately the most important element to me. I like a sweet San Marzano tomato sauce, some flavorful cheese and a couple tasty meat toppings and I'm good, though I'm okay with an occasional Margherita if it has good flavor and is not too plain.

I've never understood the idea of folding a slice. It's like a wall of crust to me. I want the flavor, not the crust.

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I'm with you there! Sounds like you are a fan of Neapolitan pizza when done right: tender yet crispy and airy crust, San Marzano tomato sauce, and fewer ingredients, all baked in a 900-degree oven within minutes. However, too much sauce and ingredients, or not cooked at high enough temps can leave the center soggy. I highly recommend seeking out Pizzaria Delfina, but I can only vouch for their original location in SF.

PS: Neopolitan-style pizza must be eaten on location, The more tender crust will not hold up to takeout.

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Seems like Brooklyn became the default Neopolitan style capital of the world in recent years. Although I did go to Pizzeria Bianco in the Phoenix area, supposedly one of the top pizzas in the US (it is Neopolitan style), and it was great. But not sure I would go out there just to have it. Detroit-style pizza has made a recent push in popularity with good reason. We even have one that is decent here in Hawaii.

No mention of Internationally acclaimed and award winning Tony's Pizza Napoletano in North Beach?

https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/bay-area-pizzas-ranked-best-17457657.php

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No mention of Internationally acclaimed and award winning Tony's Pizza Napoletano in North Beach?

https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/bay-area-pizzas-ranked-best-17457657.php

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Janice?

the measure of our program is how much we talk about food

but we'll trending upward... up from burritos to pizza!

KoreAmBear said:

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Civil Bear said:

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MoragaBear said:

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I've rarely seen Neopoliton in the bay. Arinell offers it but I only see people buying slices. And Golden Boy in SF is known for it.

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The original Pizaria Delfina in the Mission is my favorite, but you can find Neapolitan-style pizza at just about every upscale authentic Italian (ie not American-Italian/red-gravy) restaurant in the Bay Area these days. Golden Boy does not offer Neopolitan. It's more like their version of a Sicilian (square focaccia).

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I loved Delfina's other restaurant next door which I believe closed down a few years ago? They had this grilled calamari starter dish that was just amazing. And the pastas were really fresh and well made.

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Glad to report Delfina is still going strong.

KoreAmBear said:

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Civil Bear said:

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MoragaBear said:

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Civil Bear said:

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MoragaBear said:

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I've rarely seen Neopoliton in the bay. Arinell offers it but I only see people buying slices. And Golden Boy in SF is known for it.

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The original Pizaria Delfina in the Mission is my favorite, but you can find Neapolitan-style pizza at just about every upscale authentic Italian (ie not American-Italian/red-gravy) restaurant in the Bay Area these days. Golden Boy does not offer Neopolitan. It's more like their version of a Sicilian (square focaccia).

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I stand corrected. Regardless, I've always favored traditional slices but when it comes down to it, flavor is ultimately the most important element to me. I like a sweet San Marzano tomato sauce, some flavorful cheese and a couple tasty meat toppings and I'm good, though I'm okay with an occasional Margherita if it has good flavor and is not too plain.

I've never understood the idea of folding a slice. It's like a wall of crust to me. I want the flavor, not the crust.

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I'm with you there! Sounds like you are a fan of Neapolitan pizza when done right: tender yet crispy and airy crust, San Marzano tomato sauce, and fewer ingredients, all baked in a 900-degree oven within minutes. However, too much sauce and ingredients, or not cooked at high enough temps can leave the center soggy. I highly recommend seeking out Pizzaria Delfina, but I can only vouch for their original location in SF.

PS: Neopolitan-style pizza must be eaten on location, The more tender crust will not hold up to takeout.

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Seems like Brooklyn became the default Neopolitan style capital of the world in recent years. Although I did go to Pizzeria Bianco in the Phoenix area, supposedly one of the top pizzas in the US (it is Neopolitan style), and it was great. But not sure I would go out there just to have it. Detroit-style pizza has made a recent push in popularity with good reason. We even have one that is decent here in Hawaii.

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The Mrs. came across a recipe for Detroit-style pizza on America's test kitchen and she's been making it ever since. It's interesting how things catch on.