Only 38 places from #363 Hartford.

JB was a Chieftain said:

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So are we a bubble team for the CBI Tournament? Should I cancel my plans for selection Sunday?

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A bubble team for CBI would be in the 150 range. We're a couple hundred spots from there...

Well, we missed the opportunity for 30 losses. That would have been special.

stu said:

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Well, we missed the opportunity for 30 losses. That would have been special.

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True, it was a stretch goal, but 29 losses still beats Wyking's previous Cal record by 5!

stu said:

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Well, we missed the opportunity for 30 losses. That would have been special.

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I remember when 20 losses was a disaster of a season. Now, it's under our 6-year average.

Nowhere to go but up (but I said that a year ago, too).

To be fair, it isn't final RPI yet. While it may be fair to call it final once selection time hits, nothing is final until then.

It really is neck and neck to see who is the worst power conference team this year among all the computer rankings, Cal or Louisville.

The selection committee uses the NET rankings as their main computer ranking tool, and oh brother, is that close, with Cal at 310 and Louisville at 311. Even if both lose, the conference tournaments could cause Cal to take over as worst.

As indicated, the RPI currently has Cal 325, Louisville 308.

ESPN BPI has Cal 297, Louisville 293. Another possible flop after the conference tourneys are over, although harder to flop than NET rankings.

Sagarin clearly favors power conference teams and schedules over all the other rankings, as Cal is 237, with Louisville at 211. I really have trouble thinking either Cal or Louisville can be that high.

KenPom has Cal at 263, Louisville at 283.

Right now, Cal is worst in 3 out of those 5 computer rankings, but especially with NET so close, the race for consensus worst 2022-23 power conference team really hangs in the balance.

This race to the bottom is neck and neck in the home stretch!

In the NCAA's NET ranking, Cal is #310 and Louisville is #311.

Louisville's ACC tournament opponent is #167 Boston College.

Cal's Pac-12 tournament opponent is #70 Washington State.

Theoretically, if both bottom-feeders lose, and if the teams that beat them both lose their second game, then Louisville's loss will sink them more than Cal's loss.

Big C said:

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stu said:

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Well, we missed the opportunity for 30 losses. That would have been special.

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I remember when 20 losses was a disaster of a season. Now, it's under our 6-year average.

Nowhere to go but up (but I said that a year ago, too).

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AFAIK next season we'll still be in the PAC-12 and play at least 32 games so we'll have room to move in a direction other than up.

stu said:

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Big C said:

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stu said:

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Well, we missed the opportunity for 30 losses. That would have been special.

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I remember when 20 losses was a disaster of a season. Now, it's under our 6-year average.

Nowhere to go but up (but I said that a year ago, too).

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AFAIK next season we'll still be in the PAC-12 and play at least 32 games so we'll have room to move in a direction other than up.

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Sure, we could only win 0-2 games next season, but c'mon...

Big C said:

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stu said:

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Big C said:

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stu said:

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Well, we missed the opportunity for 30 losses. That would have been special.

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I remember when 20 losses was a disaster of a season. Now, it's under our 6-year average.

Nowhere to go but up (but I said that a year ago, too).

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AFAIK next season we'll still be in the PAC-12 and play at least 32 games so we'll have room to move in a direction other than up.

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Sure, we could only win 0-2 games next season, but c'mon...

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Going worse next year would be a REALLY tall order.

First, there are too many cream puffs on the OOC schedule, it is astoundingly difficult to go 1-10 OOC as the Bears did this year. Play enough basketball games, you will defeat some superior teams, and with those cream puffs, there are a lot of evenly matched teams. Even with a horrible coach and a bad roster, with the OOC schedules we play, the odds of winning 3-4 are pretty good. The Bears managed only one this year.

And even with clearly the worst team in conference, a horrible coach, and a bad roster, it is hard to win fewer than 2 games in conference. In basketball, weird things can happen on any given night. For instance, outside of the home game against Stanford, Cal shot 28% from 3 (30% including that game). At home against Stanford, Cal had its best 3 point shooting night in team history -- 16-22, 72.7%. Cal was a great 3 point shooting team for one night, in spite of being a very bad 3 point shooting team otherwise, which contributed heavily to beating the team that finished 10th in the conference. How do you explain it? It's basketball.

The Wyking Jones years were truly horrific. 8 wins each year, 2 and 3 conference wins. It is really hard to do worse, but Fox accomplished it. From a realistic standpoint, from 2022-23, there is no room to move anywhere but up.

I don't see any reason to expect the team will be much better next year unless there are some big changes to the roster.

dimitrig said:

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I don't see any reason to expect the team will be much better next year unless there are some big changes to the roster.

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New coach & transfer portal

JB was a Chieftain said:

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dimitrig said:

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I don't see any reason to expect the team will be much better next year unless there are some big changes to the roster.

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New coach & transfer portal

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When they see that BIG NIL money …

calumnus said:

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I don't know if people realize how historically, horrifically bad that is. An amazing achievement for a coach in year 4 at a P5 school.

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I've searched high and low on college hoops reference, and can't find another P5 thats done what Cal has. One of the top 2-3 worst seasons all time.

Cal's #1!

Louisville was 4-28 and 2-19 ACC, but with a first year coach.

Baylor went 0-17...in 1945. Can we count that?

Ccajon2 said:

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Louisville was 4-28 and 2-19 ACC, but with a first year coach.

Baylor went 0-17...in 1945. Can we count that?

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WW2 was a legitimate excuse.

Ccajon2 said:

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Louisville was 4-28 and 2-19 ACC, but with a first year coach.

Baylor went 0-17...in 1945. Can we count that?

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4-28 is better than 3-29.

Cal lead the country in home losses with 14.

Cal actually finished as the lowest scoring team, #363 in the entire country, at 58.3 points per game.

Nice to know if we quadrupled ncaa eligibility we still wouldn't make the tournament.