Totally agree. Don't overthink this, go get Amir
don't base hiring a coach on whether he can bring Ajay, plenty of guards available
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I just hope we don't lose out on both of them.
the NIL part rings true, but why are agents' endorsements important ?
i've known agents to get in players ears and give them bad advice that benefit the agent, not the player or school
i've known agents to get in players ears and give them bad advice that benefit the agent, not the player or school
4thGenCal said:NIL effectiveness is tied to a coach's existing relationship with wealthy program's backers/alums and His experience in fund raising for their program. Pasternack has raised $10M specifically for the UCSB program during his tenure there. He also has strong existing ties to some Cal alums that will put up significant NIL monies to help the program, because they believe in Him - fact. Fox simply was lazy and rarely reached out to (nor was effective in closing on needed funds) key capable alums for financial support. Yes each program has a "fund raiser" (w/in the dept) but frankly the one's in that role have not carried much persuasive ability/follow up to close on needed monies over past several years. Another correction - it takes years to develop loyal/trusting relationships with the key agents, programs - the program director's of both Oakland Soldiers and Prolific Prep are tight with JP. Fox's staff failed miserably over a 4 year timeframe to develop the necessary relationships at these programs. Key sports agents such as Omar Wilkes, Calvin Andrews and Bill Duffy all are supporters of JP. While other staff's can certainly make some in roads, its a stretch to think that happens with key local recruits in the near term.Cal8285 said:In what way is he "extremely versed in the NIL landscape"?? He has studied it? Whatever UCSB has done in terms of NIL, it is insignificant compared to what would need to be done at Cal.dan1997 said:
We need the best fit for Cal and it's Pasternack. In 6 seasons at UCSB, he has a .714 win percentage and set a school record with 27 wins this season. He's been to NCAA Tournament 2 of last 3 years. He is extremely versed in the NIL landscape and has had to deal with tough admissions. He has recruited to a high level at both Cal and Arizona, plus beat high majors for recruits at UCSB. Most importantly for Cal, he engineered the greatest turnaround in the history of college basketball, inheriting a 6-win team and won 23 games in his first season at UCSB.
Abdur-Rahim has had one good season and has a .378 win percentage in 4 years at Kennesaw State, he is 29 games below .500. He was impressive but has only one good season. Doesn't have the west coast ties, especially in California, which is critical to success at Cal. Plus, has not had to deal academics like Pasternack has.
Let's face it, NIL is just getting started, and really, NOBODY is "extremely versed in the NIL landscape" yet. Starting to get it figured out? Sure. And it is different to "embrace" NIL versus understanding it.
In that respect, all we need is someone smart enough to understand and figure it out as best as anybody can figure it out. Any intelligent coach, whether Pasternack or AAR or someone else with brains, can get enough help to figure out how to navigate the NIL landscape, as long as they are interested in doing so. If power conference NIL had been around for 10 years, I might say we want someone who has been at a power conference school to understand NIL. Which still could be Pasternack or AAR or someone else. But since it is still in its infancy, neither Pasternack nor AAR has power conference experience with NIL, which is more important than mid-major experience.
West coast ties are very helpful in hitting the ground running, but I care more about the long term, a good coach will build west coast ties fast, plus, with the right assistants, there will be some west coast ties right away.
The best argument for JP in your post is experience with academic issues.
I don't know who the best choice is, I'm hoping those helping Knowlton can figure it out and persuade Knowlton. But I'm not sure it matters who the best choice is, because I'm not confident Knowlton will pick the best choice.
HoopDreams said:
the NIL part rings true, but why are agents' endorsements important ?
i've known agents to get in players ears and give them bad advice the benefit the agent, the the layer or school4thGenCal said:NIL effectiveness is tied to a coach's existing relationship with wealthy program's backers/alums and His experience in fund raising for their program. Pasternack has raised $10M specifically for the UCSB program during his tenure there. He also has strong existing ties to some Cal alums that will put up significant NIL monies to help the program, because they believe in Him - fact. Fox simply was lazy and rarely reached out to (nor was effective in closing on needed funds) key capable alums for financial support. Yes each program has a "fund raiser" (w/in the dept) but frankly the one's in that role have not carried much persuasive ability/follow up to close on needed monies over past several years. Another correction - it takes years to develop loyal/trusting relationships with the key agents, programs - the program director's of both Oakland Soldiers and Prolific Prep are tight with JP. Fox's staff failed miserably over a 4 year timeframe to develop the necessary relationships at these programs. Key sports agents such as Omar Wilkes, Calvin Andrews and Bill Duffy all are supporters of JP. While other staff's can certainly make some in roads, its a stretch to think that happens with key local recruits in the near term.Cal8285 said:In what way is he "extremely versed in the NIL landscape"?? He has studied it? Whatever UCSB has done in terms of NIL, it is insignificant compared to what would need to be done at Cal.dan1997 said:
We need the best fit for Cal and it's Pasternack. In 6 seasons at UCSB, he has a .714 win percentage and set a school record with 27 wins this season. He's been to NCAA Tournament 2 of last 3 years. He is extremely versed in the NIL landscape and has had to deal with tough admissions. He has recruited to a high level at both Cal and Arizona, plus beat high majors for recruits at UCSB. Most importantly for Cal, he engineered the greatest turnaround in the history of college basketball, inheriting a 6-win team and won 23 games in his first season at UCSB.
Abdur-Rahim has had one good season and has a .378 win percentage in 4 years at Kennesaw State, he is 29 games below .500. He was impressive but has only one good season. Doesn't have the west coast ties, especially in California, which is critical to success at Cal. Plus, has not had to deal academics like Pasternack has.
Let's face it, NIL is just getting started, and really, NOBODY is "extremely versed in the NIL landscape" yet. Starting to get it figured out? Sure. And it is different to "embrace" NIL versus understanding it.
In that respect, all we need is someone smart enough to understand and figure it out as best as anybody can figure it out. Any intelligent coach, whether Pasternack or AAR or someone else with brains, can get enough help to figure out how to navigate the NIL landscape, as long as they are interested in doing so. If power conference NIL had been around for 10 years, I might say we want someone who has been at a power conference school to understand NIL. Which still could be Pasternack or AAR or someone else. But since it is still in its infancy, neither Pasternack nor AAR has power conference experience with NIL, which is more important than mid-major experience.
West coast ties are very helpful in hitting the ground running, but I care more about the long term, a good coach will build west coast ties fast, plus, with the right assistants, there will be some west coast ties right away.
The best argument for JP in your post is experience with academic issues.
I don't know who the best choice is, I'm hoping those helping Knowlton can figure it out and persuade Knowlton. But I'm not sure it matters who the best choice is, because I'm not confident Knowlton will pick the best choice.
Agents have always wanted to represent players on their future NBA contracts, so they front them money in college either because of a commitment to use them or hoping to get a commitment later. Before it was illegal. It is what the Gardners accused Bozeman of, funneling the money from their cousin, LA based sports agent Casey, to them, a few blocks away in LA, but via Bozeman in Berkeley. And it was all supposed to have been without Jelani's knowledge even though he would be the one hiring an agent, presumably. And no money to as ever documented or returned, but I digress….
Now agents can make NIL payments to players directly, and can even represent them in NIL negotiations and NIL marketing. That just segues into representing them in their "pro" contracts. Having good contacts with big agents and working with them is an important, now legal, skill for a head coach to have.
Why is anyone assuming that the "one player" thing is even a reason?mdbear said:I agree that both AAR and JP are appealing choices. Both turned around programs that had only won six games in the season before they were hired and eventually took them to the NCAA tournament. Between AAR and JP, it is hard to say who would be better. A lot will depend on how they interview and their visions for the program. Either one would bring HOPE for Cal fans of a turnaround, and we are in desperate need of that.stu said:
IMHO bring in a stud PG is a plus but not a deal maker.
To me both AAR and JP sound like massive improvements over our last two "coaches". I'd be more than happy if we hired either but I don't have the information or the skills to rank one over the other.
That's like assuming AAR is only being considered because he has the right last name.
If they were the same players in the same league with the same circumstances that might be a compelling argument.dan1997 said:Pasternack inherited a team that won 6 games the year before he arrived, won 23 games his first season. That's a 17-game turnaround. Abdul-Rahim won 1 game his first year and then 5 the next.stu said:AAR started with nothing and did better each year. His trajectory is a lot more impressive than his cumulative record.... said:
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Abdur-Rahim has had one good season and has a .378 win percentage in 4 years at Kennesaw State, he is 29 games below .500. He was impressive but has only one good season. Doesn't have the west coast ties, especially in California, which is critical to success at Cal. Plus, has not had to deal academics like Pasternack has.
Nothing against JP, all of his UCSB teams have done well and he has a longer track record.
DIsagree. If it was the same players, he coached them better. If it was new players he went out and found them, signed them and coached them into a cohesive unit in short order. Either way, the coach deserves credit because he earned it.bluesaxe said:If they were the same players in the same league with the same circumstances that might be a compelling argument.dan1997 said:Pasternack inherited a team that won 6 games the year before he arrived, won 23 games his first season. That's a 17-game turnaround. Abdul-Rahim won 1 game his first year and then 5 the next.stu said:AAR started with nothing and did better each year. His trajectory is a lot more impressive than his cumulative record.... said:
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Abdur-Rahim has had one good season and has a .378 win percentage in 4 years at Kennesaw State, he is 29 games below .500. He was impressive but has only one good season. Doesn't have the west coast ties, especially in California, which is critical to success at Cal. Plus, has not had to deal academics like Pasternack has.
Nothing against JP, all of his UCSB teams have done well and he has a longer track record.
I believe bluesaxe means you can't compare the situations inherited by Abdur-Rahim and Pasternack. And I agree with him - it's difficult to say that one coach is better because his turnaround was quicker. There are so many variables at play.tequila4kapp said:DIsagree. If it was the same players, he coached them better. If it was new players he went out and found them, signed them and coached them into a cohesive unit in short order. Either way, the coach deserves credit because he earned it.bluesaxe said:If they were the same players in the same league with the same circumstances that might be a compelling argument.dan1997 said:Pasternack inherited a team that won 6 games the year before he arrived, won 23 games his first season. That's a 17-game turnaround. Abdul-Rahim won 1 game his first year and then 5 the next.stu said:AAR started with nothing and did better each year. His trajectory is a lot more impressive than his cumulative record.... said:
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Abdur-Rahim has had one good season and has a .378 win percentage in 4 years at Kennesaw State, he is 29 games below .500. He was impressive but has only one good season. Doesn't have the west coast ties, especially in California, which is critical to success at Cal. Plus, has not had to deal academics like Pasternack has.
Nothing against JP, all of his UCSB teams have done well and he has a longer track record.
Not my point. It's an apples and oranges comparison and I will admit I have no way of judging it, but simply pointing to a record at two different schools in two different conferences with different players, recruiting pluses/minuses, and overall very different circumstances doesn't mean much in my opinion. I'd say both coaches deserve credit for what they did, but whether the difference in how long it took was simply due to relative abilities is not something apparent from that single data point. It's simplistic.tequila4kapp said:DIsagree. If it was the same players, he coached them better. If it was new players he went out and found them, signed them and coached them into a cohesive unit in short order. Either way, the coach deserves credit because he earned it.bluesaxe said:If they were the same players in the same league with the same circumstances that might be a compelling argument.dan1997 said:Pasternack inherited a team that won 6 games the year before he arrived, won 23 games his first season. That's a 17-game turnaround. Abdul-Rahim won 1 game his first year and then 5 the next.stu said:AAR started with nothing and did better each year. His trajectory is a lot more impressive than his cumulative record.... said:
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Abdur-Rahim has had one good season and has a .378 win percentage in 4 years at Kennesaw State, he is 29 games below .500. He was impressive but has only one good season. Doesn't have the west coast ties, especially in California, which is critical to success at Cal. Plus, has not had to deal academics like Pasternack has.
Nothing against JP, all of his UCSB teams have done well and he has a longer track record.
And for the record, I'd be happy if either was hired. One would be a solid hire for a lot of reasons articulated by others here. The other would be a swing at a high upside with a guy who from everything I've read is a rather charismatic leader. And neither is an old retread hired because he's been fired for being mediocre at another big school.
Ah, thanks for the clarification, I missed that point you were making. Now that I'm tracking what you are saying, I respectfully disagree. 1 year turnaround vs 4 year turnaround is too substantial to dismiss. If we were comparing a 1 year vs 2 year turnaround, fine, there are differences that hedge the meaning. But 1 vs. 4 is too great a difference to ignore.bluesaxe said:Not my point. It's an apples and oranges comparison and I will admit I have no way of judging it, but simply pointing to a record at two different schools in two different conferences with different players, recruiting pluses/minuses, and overall very different circumstances doesn't mean much in my opinion. I'd say both coaches deserve credit for what they did, but whether the difference in how long it took was simply due to relative abilities is not something apparent from that single data point. It's simplistic.tequila4kapp said:DIsagree. If it was the same players, he coached them better. If it was new players he went out and found them, signed them and coached them into a cohesive unit in short order. Either way, the coach deserves credit because he earned it.bluesaxe said:If they were the same players in the same league with the same circumstances that might be a compelling argument.dan1997 said:Pasternack inherited a team that won 6 games the year before he arrived, won 23 games his first season. That's a 17-game turnaround. Abdul-Rahim won 1 game his first year and then 5 the next.stu said:AAR started with nothing and did better each year. His trajectory is a lot more impressive than his cumulative record.... said:
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Abdur-Rahim has had one good season and has a .378 win percentage in 4 years at Kennesaw State, he is 29 games below .500. He was impressive but has only one good season. Doesn't have the west coast ties, especially in California, which is critical to success at Cal. Plus, has not had to deal academics like Pasternack has.
Nothing against JP, all of his UCSB teams have done well and he has a longer track record.
And for the record, I'd be happy if either was hired. One would be a solid hire for a lot of reasons articulated by others here. The other would be a swing at a high upside with a guy who from everything I've read is a rather charismatic leader. And neither is an old retread hired because he's been fired for being mediocre at another big school.
Pasternack inherited a team that went 14-17 the prior year and went 19-13 in his first year. But he then had back to back losing seasons before returning to the winning side of the ledger. If we want to use this as an alternative data point, fine / fair. Not good going backwards and having back to back losing seasons. Also, JP had back to back seasons of 10+ double digit losses. No sign of improvement during the two losing seasons. Not good. AAR's number of double digit losses was cut by @1/3 to 1/2 in the 1st and 2nd seasons (9 fewer games played thanks to Covid). Those data points favor AAR and are also fair, IMO.
You can't look at the New Orleans situation as a good example. No coach in the country has had to deal with what Pasternack went through. He won 19 games his first season, with wins at NC State and Colorado. On the eve of signing day in Year 2, his AD announced they were dropping out of D-1 athletics stemming from fallout of Hurricane Katrina. He had a terrific signing class that disintegrated, players that were signing with him ended up at Oklahoma, Memphis, LSU and Tulane. New Orleans enrollment dropped nearly 50% and the operating budget was completely slashed.tequila4kapp said:Ah, thanks for the clarification, I missed that point you were making. Now that I'm tracking what you are saying, I respectfully disagree. 1 year turnaround vs 4 year turnaround is too substantial to dismiss. If we were comparing a 1 year vs 2 year turnaround, fine, there are differences that hedge the meaning. But 1 vs. 4 is too great a difference to ignore.bluesaxe said:Not my point. It's an apples and oranges comparison and I will admit I have no way of judging it, but simply pointing to a record at two different schools in two different conferences with different players, recruiting pluses/minuses, and overall very different circumstances doesn't mean much in my opinion. I'd say both coaches deserve credit for what they did, but whether the difference in how long it took was simply due to relative abilities is not something apparent from that single data point. It's simplistic.tequila4kapp said:DIsagree. If it was the same players, he coached them better. If it was new players he went out and found them, signed them and coached them into a cohesive unit in short order. Either way, the coach deserves credit because he earned it.bluesaxe said:If they were the same players in the same league with the same circumstances that might be a compelling argument.dan1997 said:Pasternack inherited a team that won 6 games the year before he arrived, won 23 games his first season. That's a 17-game turnaround. Abdul-Rahim won 1 game his first year and then 5 the next.stu said:AAR started with nothing and did better each year. His trajectory is a lot more impressive than his cumulative record.... said:
...
Abdur-Rahim has had one good season and has a .378 win percentage in 4 years at Kennesaw State, he is 29 games below .500. He was impressive but has only one good season. Doesn't have the west coast ties, especially in California, which is critical to success at Cal. Plus, has not had to deal academics like Pasternack has.
Nothing against JP, all of his UCSB teams have done well and he has a longer track record.
And for the record, I'd be happy if either was hired. One would be a solid hire for a lot of reasons articulated by others here. The other would be a swing at a high upside with a guy who from everything I've read is a rather charismatic leader. And neither is an old retread hired because he's been fired for being mediocre at another big school.
Pasternack inherited a team that went 14-17 the prior year and went 19-13 in his first year. But he then had back to back losing seasons before returning to the winning side of the ledger. If we want to use this as an alternative data point, fine / fair. Not good going backwards and having back to back losing seasons. Also, JP had back to back seasons of 10+ double digit losses. No sign of improvement during the two losing seasons. Not good. AAR's number of double digit losses was cut by @1/3 to 1/2 in the 1st and 2nd seasons (9 fewer games played thanks to Covid). Those data points favor AAR and are also fair, IMO.
Pasternack stuck out his commitment to UNO, fulfilled the 4-year contract and then went to Arizona.
In some ways, I look at the UNO situation as the best thing about Pasternack. He stuck it out there, he didn't bail when he basically got screwed. Some want to point at a few seconds of reaction to a player falling on the Arizona bench as a sign of bad character, but far more relevant to me is the character he showed in the UNO situation.dan1997 said:You can't look at the New Orleans situation as a good example. No coach in the country has had to deal with what Pasternack went through. He won 19 games his first season, with wins at NC State and Colorado. On the eve of signing day in Year 2, his AD announced they were dropping out of D-1 athletics stemming from fallout of Hurricane Katrina. He had a terrific signing class that disintegrated, players that were signing with him ended up at Oklahoma, Memphis, LSU and Tulane. New Orleans enrollment dropped nearly 50% and the operating budget was completely slashed.tequila4kapp said:Ah, thanks for the clarification, I missed that point you were making. Now that I'm tracking what you are saying, I respectfully disagree. 1 year turnaround vs 4 year turnaround is too substantial to dismiss. If we were comparing a 1 year vs 2 year turnaround, fine, there are differences that hedge the meaning. But 1 vs. 4 is too great a difference to ignore.bluesaxe said:Not my point. It's an apples and oranges comparison and I will admit I have no way of judging it, but simply pointing to a record at two different schools in two different conferences with different players, recruiting pluses/minuses, and overall very different circumstances doesn't mean much in my opinion. I'd say both coaches deserve credit for what they did, but whether the difference in how long it took was simply due to relative abilities is not something apparent from that single data point. It's simplistic.tequila4kapp said:DIsagree. If it was the same players, he coached them better. If it was new players he went out and found them, signed them and coached them into a cohesive unit in short order. Either way, the coach deserves credit because he earned it.bluesaxe said:If they were the same players in the same league with the same circumstances that might be a compelling argument.dan1997 said:Pasternack inherited a team that won 6 games the year before he arrived, won 23 games his first season. That's a 17-game turnaround. Abdul-Rahim won 1 game his first year and then 5 the next.stu said:AAR started with nothing and did better each year. His trajectory is a lot more impressive than his cumulative record.... said:
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Abdur-Rahim has had one good season and has a .378 win percentage in 4 years at Kennesaw State, he is 29 games below .500. He was impressive but has only one good season. Doesn't have the west coast ties, especially in California, which is critical to success at Cal. Plus, has not had to deal academics like Pasternack has.
Nothing against JP, all of his UCSB teams have done well and he has a longer track record.
And for the record, I'd be happy if either was hired. One would be a solid hire for a lot of reasons articulated by others here. The other would be a swing at a high upside with a guy who from everything I've read is a rather charismatic leader. And neither is an old retread hired because he's been fired for being mediocre at another big school.
Pasternack inherited a team that went 14-17 the prior year and went 19-13 in his first year. But he then had back to back losing seasons before returning to the winning side of the ledger. If we want to use this as an alternative data point, fine / fair. Not good going backwards and having back to back losing seasons. Also, JP had back to back seasons of 10+ double digit losses. No sign of improvement during the two losing seasons. Not good. AAR's number of double digit losses was cut by @1/3 to 1/2 in the 1st and 2nd seasons (9 fewer games played thanks to Covid). Those data points favor AAR and are also fair, IMO.
Pasternack stuck out his commitment to UNO, fulfilled the 4-year contract and then went to Arizona.
Anybody who would use "backsliding" at UNO against Pasternack either doesn't understand the UNO situation or is looking for any argument to make against Pasternack. Between AAR and JP, I'm on the fence, but JP's UNO tenure is a positive in my book.
kriisa gotta drinking problem, hangs out at dirtbags near campus which contributed to him being recruited overSBGold said:
also AZ guard Kerr Kriisa entered the portal today
point is that there's nobody in the portal who is even anywhere near the facilitator/distributor of ajay mitchell
Sure, NIL effectiveness will be helped by existing relationship with backers and experience in fund raising, but the right coach will be able to develop relationships with backers. From what has been thrown around, either JP or AAR would have the ability to get funds raised, I don't know who best.4thGenCal said:NIL effectiveness is tied to a coach's existing relationship with wealthy program's backers/alums and His experience in fund raising for their program. Pasternack has raised $10M specifically for the UCSB program during his tenure there. He also has strong existing ties to some Cal alums that will put up significant NIL monies to help the program, because they believe in Him - fact. Fox simply was lazy and rarely reached out to (nor was effective in closing on needed funds) key capable alums for financial support. Yes each program has a "fund raiser" (w/in the dept) but frankly the one's in that role have not carried much persuasive ability/follow up to close on needed monies over past several years. Another correction - it takes years to develop loyal/trusting relationships with the key agents, programs - the program director's of both Oakland Soldiers and Prolific Prep are tight with JP. Fox's staff failed miserably over a 4 year timeframe to develop the necessary relationships at these programs. Key sports agents such as Omar Wilkes, Calvin Andrews and Bill Duffy all are supporters of JP. While other staff's can certainly make some in roads, its a stretch to think that happens with key local recruits in the near term.Cal8285 said:In what way is he "extremely versed in the NIL landscape"?? He has studied it? Whatever UCSB has done in terms of NIL, it is insignificant compared to what would need to be done at Cal.dan1997 said:
We need the best fit for Cal and it's Pasternack. In 6 seasons at UCSB, he has a .714 win percentage and set a school record with 27 wins this season. He's been to NCAA Tournament 2 of last 3 years. He is extremely versed in the NIL landscape and has had to deal with tough admissions. He has recruited to a high level at both Cal and Arizona, plus beat high majors for recruits at UCSB. Most importantly for Cal, he engineered the greatest turnaround in the history of college basketball, inheriting a 6-win team and won 23 games in his first season at UCSB.
Abdur-Rahim has had one good season and has a .378 win percentage in 4 years at Kennesaw State, he is 29 games below .500. He was impressive but has only one good season. Doesn't have the west coast ties, especially in California, which is critical to success at Cal. Plus, has not had to deal academics like Pasternack has.
Let's face it, NIL is just getting started, and really, NOBODY is "extremely versed in the NIL landscape" yet. Starting to get it figured out? Sure. And it is different to "embrace" NIL versus understanding it.
In that respect, all we need is someone smart enough to understand and figure it out as best as anybody can figure it out. Any intelligent coach, whether Pasternack or AAR or someone else with brains, can get enough help to figure out how to navigate the NIL landscape, as long as they are interested in doing so. If power conference NIL had been around for 10 years, I might say we want someone who has been at a power conference school to understand NIL. Which still could be Pasternack or AAR or someone else. But since it is still in its infancy, neither Pasternack nor AAR has power conference experience with NIL, which is more important than mid-major experience.
West coast ties are very helpful in hitting the ground running, but I care more about the long term, a good coach will build west coast ties fast, plus, with the right assistants, there will be some west coast ties right away.
The best argument for JP in your post is experience with academic issues.
I don't know who the best choice is, I'm hoping those helping Knowlton can figure it out and persuade Knowlton. But I'm not sure it matters who the best choice is, because I'm not confident Knowlton will pick the best choice.
But that is about how effective they will be with respect to NIL, and not how they are "versed in the NIL landscape." I still believe a) neither JP nor AAR has NIL experience at the power conference level, and b) it doesn't really matter that much, because NIL is so new that everybody is still learning, even those who have been at the power conference level since it started. I haven't seen anything that says JP has an advantage in being "versed in the NIL landscape."
Plenty of coaches with the right work ethic and personality have been able to develop relationship with programs pretty quickly. It is too late for much of anything this year besides a) retaining existing recruits, and b) the portal. Maybe JP has some advantage in this regard, but if AAR brings in an assistant with existing relationships, that advantage becomes less, and if AAR is good at his job, but a year or two, that is gone. If Fox had bothered to do his job, it wouldn't have taken four years to have the necessary relationships. I don't want extremely short-sighted decision making.
JP may be best in the long run, too, I don't know, I don't have a preference between JP and AAR right now, but I want the best long term fit, not just who is going to be best in the first six months.
Well, I get it. I get bbq at Holy Smokin's Butts and then head over to Dirtbag's for a good timeShocky1 said:kriisa gotta drinking problem, hangs out at dirtbags near campus which contributed to him being recruited overSBGold said:
also AZ guard Kerr Kriisa entered the portal today
point is that there's nobody in the portal who is even anywhere near the facilitator/distributor of ajay mitchell
and don't forget to brings donuts too, goldy
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