"but its bitter rival"

bitter mostly cuz they have had more winning teams lately and students were better at picking their rich parents

Do you hate CAL?

Any chance the donors can convince the administration to have someone, anyone other than Knowlton make the announcement? I do think Madsen can be successful here, but definitely don't want to give JK any credit for the hire.

In principle?

Write For California tweeted at 11:10 that its a DONE DEAL

graguna said:

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Write For California tweeted at 11:10 that its a DONE DEAL

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OKAY

85Bear said:

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Any chance the donors can convince the administration to have someone, anyone other than Knowlton make the announcement? I do think Madsen can be successful here, but definitely don't want to give JK any credit for the hire.

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he got the blame for MF, only fair he get the credit for MM if he does well

I actually think MM was a better choice, but had no clue that he was available as all the chatter was for JP and AAR ..

too many are hung up on the fact that he went to junior college .. I can't say I blame him for that choice

it was the end of the Bozeman years and MM was the furd coach (who as many have noted, hates recruiting) but is a great coach/teacher

Oakbear said:

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he got the blame for MF, only fair he get the credit for MM if he does well

I actually think MM was a better choice, but had no clue that he was available as all the chatter was for JP and AAR ..

too many are hung up on the fact that he went to junior college .. I can't say I blame him for that choice

it was the end of the Bozeman years and MM was the furd coach (who as many have noted, hates recruiting) but is a great coach/teacher

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Nothing against the choice of Madsen at all -- as I noted, I do think he can be successful here. My disdain for JK is the PROCESS in which he arrived at Madsen, through which he will saddle him with an uphill climb on the NIL front. I do believe Mark has the personality and character to win over the donors, but he will have to do some damage control - damage caused by JK's process.

Oakbear said:

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"but its bitter rival"

bitter mostly cuz they have had more winning teams lately and students were better at picking their rich parents

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I'm bitter about our last two coaches co-holding the school record of -16 in a row. We haven't had the standing to be bitter about anything else for a while now.

"My disdain for JK is the PROCESS in which he arrived at Madsen,"

I have no real idea what process he used as all I know is what people posted as opinon.

do you have first hand knowledge of the process he used?

If you have seen any of my posts on JK you will see that I don't care for him, see my 'what me worry" post, but fair is fair, if this is a good hire he gets credit as he got dumped on for MF

85Bear said:

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Oakbear said:

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he got the blame for MF, only fair he get the credit for MM if he does well

I actually think MM was a better choice, but had no clue that he was available as all the chatter was for JP and AAR ..

too many are hung up on the fact that he went to junior college .. I can't say I blame him for that choice

it was the end of the Bozeman years and MM was the furd coach (who as many have noted, hates recruiting) but is a great coach/teacher

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Nothing against the choice of Madsen at all -- as I noted, I do think he can be successful here. My disdain for JK is the PROCESS in which he arrived at Madsen, through which he will saddle him with an uphill climb on the NIL front. I do believe Mark has the personality and character to win over the donors, but he will have to do some damage control - damage caused by JK's process.

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"some damage control"

Ya think?

Bobodeluxe said:

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85Bear said:

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Nothing against the choice of Madsen at all -- as I noted, I do think he can be successful here. My disdain for JK is the PROCESS in which he arrived at Madsen, through which he will saddle him with an uphill climb on the NIL front. I do believe Mark has the personality and character to win over the donors, but he will have to do some damage control - damage caused by JK's process.

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"some damage control"

Ya think?

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Oops -- misspoke. MAJOR damage control.

bearister said:

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Oakbear said:

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"but its bitter rival"

bitter mostly cuz they have had more winning teams lately and students were better at picking their rich parents

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I'm bitter about our last two coaches co-holding the school record of -16 in a row. We haven't had the standing to be bitter about anything else for a while now.

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So instead of 3-29, 2-30 would been better as long as the losses were split up into 3 groups of 10? A coach that goes 1-30 would be better as long as there would be 15 losses before the win and 15 after?

Bearister you are one of my favorite posters but…

We don't hsve standing to be bitter about 3-29, worst record in the entire country? #363 Worst record in Cal history? We don't have standing to be bitter about being last in the country in scoring? #363? Losing to UCSD, twice? We don't have standing to be bitter that Fox got an extension AFTER setting the Cal record for PAC-12 losses? Adding another $1.9 million to the inevitable buyout? We don't have standing to be bitter Dennis Gates Is not our coach and had a great season elsewhere?