The Official too bitter to start a National Championship Game Thread,Thread

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bearister
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Under the rules of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon are we one degree away from being National Champions if Matt & Co win this?

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HoopDreams
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one thing all these teams have in common are long athletic rim protectors
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SDSU is starting to get killed by UConn's size. This could get ugly.
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I'm getting sick and tired of Nantz nakedly rooting for U Conn.
His repeated negative comments sound like Starkey commenting on Cal's play in a football game.
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looks like there are 5 alpha dogs on both teams

did we have any? (maybe askew?)
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U Conn will gag if the Aztecs refuse to surrender to them.
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they are letting the bigs bang

did you see the two centers blatantly shoving each other to get position before the entry pass?
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sdsu shooting 26%

uconn shooting 63%

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HoopDreams said:

sdsu shooting 26%

uconn shooting 63%




U Conn should be up by 25. When you have someone against the ropes, you gotta KO them.

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agree in last 5 minutes they had a ton off turnovers and smoked 3 layups/shots directly under the basket

bearister said:

HoopDreams said:

sdsu shooting 26%

uconn shooting 63%




U Conn should be up by 25. When you have someone against the ropes, you gotta KO them.


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The game may turn on the first 2 minutes of the second half. U Conn can either break the Aztecs' resolve or…..that sucking sound is U Conn's collective cloaca puckering.
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bearister said:

HoopDreams said:

sdsu shooting 26%

uconn shooting 63%




U Conn should be up by 25. When you have someone against the ropes, you gotta KO them.




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HoopDreams
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the battle of the two centers are epic

bearister said:

bearister said:

HoopDreams said:

sdsu shooting 26%

uconn shooting 63%




U Conn should be up by 25. When you have someone against the ropes, you gotta KO them.





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I hope SDSU has a run in them, but mostly think they are just physically out matched and are doing well to keep it inside 15 points
HoopDreams
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SDSU is making a game of it as they've turned up the defense, but they will need to continue to get stops and score with time running short

still if they hit both FTs its a 2 possession game
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SDSU misses front end of 1 and 1 and then fouls player 40 feet from basket for 4 point swing

instead of 2 possession game they are in deep trouble
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SDSU was just out gunned but made it a game in the second half

I'm sure Bradley will be in One Shining Moment

Hopefully Cal will again soon
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This game was never really in question.

UCONN went on a 16 - 4 run after the Aztecs got it down to 5.

If youve watched UCONN all season long, you know how much offensive fire power they have.

And their Defense isnt bad either.
Held their last 4 opponents to less than 32%

DOMINANT!
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Why was Phil Simms coaching San Diego St?
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I was right that bradley would be in One Shining Moment but it was his face plant and didn't show up again besides being in the background of a group shot of a tip off
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DiabloWags said:

This game was never really in question.

UCONN went on a 16 - 4 run after the Aztecs got it down to 5.

If youve watched UCONN all season long, you know how much offensive fire power they have.

And their Defense isnt bad either.
Held their last 4 opponents to less than 32%

DOMINANT!


They won their six tournament games by scores of 24, 15, 23, 28, 13, and 17. Average margin of victory of 20 points. I am curious if that is the highest ever.

As an aside, I heard someone on TV ask last weekend if they're the greatest college team of all time because of how badly they had been dominating leading up to the Final 4. To me, that's an obvious no - almost laughable. How many NBA guys do they have? Maybe 1 or 2? No NBA superstars, IMO. But there's no denying I can't remember a team dominating the tournament this badly before.
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GMP said:

DiabloWags said:

This game was never really in question.

UCONN went on a 16 - 4 run after the Aztecs got it down to 5.

If youve watched UCONN all season long, you know how much offensive fire power they have.

And their Defense isnt bad either.
Held their last 4 opponents to less than 32%

DOMINANT!

As an aside, I heard someone on TV ask last weekend if they're the greatest college team of all time because of how badly they had been dominating leading up to the Final 4. To me, that's an obvious no - almost laughable. How many NBA guys do they have? Maybe 1 or 2? No NBA superstars, IMO. But there's no denying I can't remember a team dominating the tournament this badly before.
UCONN had an awesome run but these past few seasons have been weird because of the 2020 cancellation and a lot of guys taking extra years and hitting the portal, San Diego State had a bunch of older guys which certainly helped plus the other blue bloods were mostly absent in this tournament, except for the champs.
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bearister said:

I'm getting sick and tired of Nantz nakedly rooting for U Conn.
His repeated negative comments sound like Starkey commenting on Cal's play in a football game.
All three of the announcers were rooting for UConn, really - classic East Coast Bias. I think they were reliving their own glory days of the 1980s-1990s calling (or in Grant Hill's case, playing) Big East and ACC games that were the apex of college basketball. When Raftery gets wound up, you can't understand a word he says. It was nice to see SDSU close the gap on UConn, but the better team won.
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HearstMining said:

bearister said:

I'm getting sick and tired of Nantz nakedly rooting for U Conn.
His repeated negative comments sound like Starkey commenting on Cal's play in a football game.
It was nice to see SDSU close the gap on UConn, but the better team won.
Unless State came back with spectacular shooting they had no shot, and not only that they shot poorly while UCONN was blazing in the first half, it was hardly a contest.
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Big congrats to Matt Bradley for leading his team to the national title game. No one was going to beat UConn this tournament. He definitely made the right choice to leave Cal and picked the right school to transfer to. Best wishes in his future career!
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Great job supporting our players JK and MF (/s)
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bluehenbear said:



Great job supporting our players JK and MF (/s)
Such an indictment of MF. Matt seems like a great guy. Driven. Competitive. Smart (to get to Cal). The fact that MF ran a program that left MB feeling this way is just criminal and I hope that man NEVER coaches BB again. ****er.
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socaltownie said:

bluehenbear said:



Great job supporting our players JK and MF (/s)
Such an indictment of MF. Matt seems like a great guy. Driven. Competitive. Smart (to get to Cal). The fact that MF ran a program that left MB feeling this way is just criminal and I hope that man NEVER coaches BB again. ****er.


Agreed. The last four years I have been saying that is who Mark Fox is, why people left immediately and why those who stayed were leaving the team, why he could not recruit no matter how many great salesmen are added to his staff. It is criminal that he got over almost $10 million (?) to do this to our team and our players. As 8283 said, "He won, we lost."

Like with McKeever, there are those who defended the bully and attacked the messengers, though in this case it should have been more obvious. Plus, unlike McKeever, he was setting records for losing in a far more visible sport.



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We've had a lot of coaches and players cycle through Cal over the years. While hitting on a winner for every player is unlikely due to a range of issues (I.e., injuries, academics, fit), when we miss hitting a winner on our coach we immediately run the risk that the coach's failures become propagated through the players they bring into the program. The same is true for our AD. A bad AD is likely to pick a bad coach. A bad coach is bad because of their inability to recruit to and apply a system that makes their players successful.

Cal's problems have and will continue to be its administration. Some on this board note that Christ has done more for Cal sports than any previous Chancellor, but there is something afoul when that same Chancellor hires a bad AD who hires a bad coach, who ends up running off the good players and employing a system that doesn't fit the players we do have. Christ may have made some positive choices about the balance sheet of the athletic department, but she has also made some historically bad choices regarding staffing. What this leads to is a failed program.

You can't look at the collective history of Cal Basketball and not see that our problems start at the top. You can't look at Cal Basketball and not see that we have been more in a mode of cleaning up the problems of our past rather than making decisions that seed our future for success. Building a winner is not done through a single coach, but through a succession of good coaches. The same needs to happen with the Chancellor and AD roles.

Be happy for Matt Bradley. He was smart enough to see Cal Basketball for what it isn't.
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GMP said:

DiabloWags said:

This game was never really in question.

UCONN went on a 16 - 4 run after the Aztecs got it down to 5.

If youve watched UCONN all season long, you know how much offensive fire power they have.

And their Defense isnt bad either.
Held their last 4 opponents to less than 32%

DOMINANT!


They won their six tournament games by scores of 24, 15, 23, 28, 13, and 17. Average margin of victory of 20 points. I am curious if that is the highest ever.

As an aside, I heard someone on TV ask last weekend if they're the greatest college team of all time because of how badly they had been dominating leading up to the Final 4. To me, that's an obvious no - almost laughable. How many NBA guys do they have? Maybe 1 or 2? No NBA superstars, IMO. But there's no denying I can't remember a team dominating the tournament this badly before.


It is the 3rd highest ever?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/march-madness-2023-why-no-4-seed-uconn-which-has-been-dominant-in-the-ncaa-tournament-wasnt-seeded-higher/amp/
socaltownie
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CALiforniALUM said:

We've had a lot of coaches and players cycle through Cal over the years. While hitting on a winner for every player is unlikely due to a range of issues (I.e., injuries, academics, fit), when we miss hitting a winner on our coach we immediately run the risk that the coach's failures become propagated through the players they bring into the program. The same is true for our AD. A bad AD is likely to pick a bad coach. A bad coach is bad because of their inability to recruit to and apply a system that makes their players successful.

Cal's problems have and will continue to be its administration. Some on this board note that Christ has done more for Cal sports than any previous Chancellor, but there is something afoul when that same Chancellor hires a bad AD who hires a bad coach, who ends up running off the good players and employing a system that doesn't fit the players we do have. Christ may have made some positive choices about the balance sheet of the athletic department, but she has also made some historically bad choices regarding staffing. What this leads to is a failed program.

You can't look at the collective history of Cal Basketball and not see that our problems start at the top. You can't look at Cal Basketball and not see that we have been more in a mode of cleaning up the problems of our past rather than making decisions that seed our future for success. Building a winner is not done through a single coach, but through a succession of good coaches. The same needs to happen with the Chancellor and AD roles.

Be happy for Matt Bradley. He was smart enough to see Cal Basketball for what it isn't.
Absolutely. And I again return to my constant theme that the disconnect is between an administration (and a general student body) that sees itself as a world class elite R1 educational instiution at which ANY student would give their eye tooth to be a part of and a revenue sports school at which Cal is "meh" and is largely a regional play. Over and over that disconnect expresses itself.

I have high hopes for Madsen. He is absolutely hitting the right notes. I do want to see him reach out to the soliders and prolic prep....and while I want traffic jams on the bay bridge and the Tunnel to see Cal what I REALLY want is for Cal to the be go to program for East Bay hoop fans can that is the "fence" we really need to put up in our recruiting battles.
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