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I saw this and recall the one released several weeks ago, and am a little confused. Are these previews of a full movie/documentary to be released, or are these the thing itself. Maybe the previous one was a preview and this ("Part 1 of 7") is the thing? Do I have that right? Am I telling you my age without telling you my age?

In any case, I'm loving it. I remember that first class, the year before JK. I was so excited. Already, you knew something different was happening with Cal hoops. I loved that class. They didn't have a great freshman season, iirc, but they showed flashes of major potential to come. And of course, I think it was during that season that talk of JK coming the following season was a possibility. Very fun and exciting times.
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I posted on another thread (before seeing this post) that these are great!
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Keith Smith is probably the most underrated Bear of all time. He was F@UCKING AWESOME!

Keith Smith College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com


https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/keith-smith-47.html

* I have not seen a better stop and pop move on a fast break to this day. He was Lou's favorite.
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bearister said:

Keith Smith is probably the most underrated Bear of all time. He was F@UCKING AWESOME!

Keith Smith College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com


https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/keith-smith-47.html

* I have not seen a better stop and pop move on a fast break to this day. He was Lou's favorite.

Well, I think KJ would have something to say about that. I didn't notice how Keith Smith came up, but he is absolutely one of my all-time favorites. My personal Cal hoops Mt. Rushmore is, not necessarily in this order, Keith Smith, Brian Hendrick, Jason Kidd, and Jorge Gutierrez. Smith was SO smooth. I was at Cal '87'91. That team that beat Indiana in the NCAA holds a very special place in my heart.
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I was depressed when J.Kidd left. I figured I would never look that forward to going to a Cal hoop game again (I attended Kidd's high school games). I was wrong. Ed Gray was just as fun to watch. The man was a whirling dervish scoring machine.


Ed Gray College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com


https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/ed-gray-1.html

Cal Basketball: On His 45th Birthday, We Relive Ed Gray's 48-Point Outburst vs. WSU | Sports Illustrated Cal Bears News, Analysis and More


https://www.si.com/college/cal/basketball/ed-gray-scores-48-points

"On a Thursday night at Pullman, Washington, Gray broke Cal's 25-year-old single-game scoring record with 48 points against Washington State.

The senior guard did it in just 25 minutes on the floor, missing time in the first half after getting into foul trouble, and sitting out the final 1 minute, 14 seconds after breaking his right foot."

* He was awarded the 1997 Pac-10 Player of the Year during his senior season at Cal averaging 24.8 ppg. Wikipedia
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bearister said:

I was depressed when J.Kidd left. I figured I would never look that forward to going to a Cal hoop game again (I attended Kidd's high school games). I was wrong. Ed Gray was just as fun to watch. The man was a whirling dervish scoring machine.


Ed Gray College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com


https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/ed-gray-1.html

Cal Basketball: On His 45th Birthday, We Relive Ed Gray's 48-Point Outburst vs. WSU | Sports Illustrated Cal Bears News, Analysis and More


https://www.si.com/college/cal/basketball/ed-gray-scores-48-points

"On a Thursday night at Pullman, Washington, Gray broke Cal's 25-year-old single-game scoring record with 48 points against Washington State.

The senior guard did it in just 25 minutes on the floor, missing time in the first half after getting into foul trouble, and sitting out the final 1 minute, 14 seconds after breaking his right foot."

* He was awarded the 1997 Pac-10 Player of the Year during his senior season at Cal averaging 24.8 ppg. Wikipedia

Loved Ed Gray. No conscience, but that's exactly what that team of role players needed. Can only imagine "what if" he hadn't gotten injured. Loved that team, too. Monster rebounding.
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Like Santa Clara's Kevin Foster, another prolific scorer (he finished his collegiate career as Santa Clara's all-time leading scorer with 2,423 points, which is also the most in San Francisco Bay Area Division I history ), Ed unsuccessfully battled weight issues.
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bearister said:

Like Santa Clara's Kevin Foster, another prolific scorer (he finished his collegiate career as Santa Clara's all-time leading scorer with 2,423 points, which is also the most in San Francisco Bay Area Division I history ), Ed unsuccessfully battled weight issues.

Haven't we all …
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When I was in college I couldn't put any weight on. I took a weight lifting class which did make me stronger but I actually lost a few pounds.

Those days and those problems are long gone.
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The late Quintin Dailey (whose Bay Area college scoring record Kevin Foster broke), also battled a weight problem. The Bulls cut him shortly after, during a game, he was caught eating food on the bench he had a kid buy from a vendor. He did, however, play 9 years in the NBA and averaged 14 PPG.
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i was at Cal 91-95. my course load was vicious and often demoralizing. Basketball (and football) kept me going. Incredible years
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bearister said:

The late Quintin Dailey (whose Bay Area college scoring record Kevin Foster broke), also battled a weight problem. The Bulls cut him shortly after, during a game, he was caught eating food on the bench he had a kid buy from a vendor. He did, however, play 9 years in the NBA and averaged 14 PPG.


Nah say it ain't so man.
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upsetof86 said:

bearister said:

The late Quintin Dailey (whose Bay Area college scoring record Kevin Foster broke), also battled a weight problem. The Bulls cut him shortly after, during a game, he was caught eating food on the bench he had a kid buy from a vendor. He did, however, play 9 years in the NBA and averaged 14 PPG.


Nah say it ain't so man.




*From Roger Daltrey's 1977 solo album, One of the Boys. I see in that video Moon the Loon on drums, John Entwistle on bass and Jimmy McCulloch on lead guitar (he played with Wings). All three of Roger's sidemen died of drug or alcohol abuse (Jimmy one year shy of the 27 Club).
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bearister said:

*From Roger Daltrey's 1977 solo album, One of the Boys. I see in that video Moon the Loon on drums, John Entwistle on bass and Jimmy McCulloch on lead guitar (he played with Wings). All three of Roger's sidemen died of drug or alcohol abuse (Jimmy one year shy of the 27 Club).
I remember the video for "One of the Boys" playing before Star Wars in the theaters in 1977. The first music video I had ever seen was Kiss's Rock and Roll All Night in 1975, and then Roger Daltrey's was 2nd. The concept of music video was so new (years before MTV) and it was so odd to have it play in a theater was unprecedented. It made a huge impression (I was in junior high) and the image of him as a punk rocker with safety pins in his face scared the hell out of me. And I imagined that all of London was like that...and that fear and danger obsessed and lured me like a moth to a flame to England and a lifelong affair with punk & British music/culture.


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udaman1 said:

i was at Cal 91-95. my course load was vicious and often demoralizing. Basketball (and football) kept me going. Incredible years


Watching? Or playing?

Maybe Tony G is the greatest of us all.
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"…and lured me like a moth to a flame to England and a lifelong affair with punk & British music/culture."

I'm in your club. In 1982 when The Who toured America, a dude 2 years ahead of me at O'Dowd, Tim Gorman, played keyboards on the tour.


Tim with Pete in 1982.

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….and Dave Meniketti was in my class. He wore a short haired wig to hide his Heavy Metal mane so he complied with O'Dowd hair regulations.

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part 2


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Hey, are you trying to gyroscope this thread back to basketball? Can't you see that this thread has taken a side journey down a crooked hallway?

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HoopDreams said:

part 2




I never heard of that. Must've been awesome. What an experience for those younger players and what I would give to watch.
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bearister said:

"…and lured me like a moth to a flame to England and a lifelong affair with punk & British music/culture."

I'm in your club. In 1982 when The Who toured America, a dude 2 years ahead of me at O'Dowd, Tim Gorman, played keyboards on the tour.
I hired Tim to compose and conduct a classical music score for a film I directed. He was telling me stories about that tour and The Clash who along with The Smiths are my musical Gods. I was lucky enough to see Clash and Smiths (and Who) live several times.
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Did you like the Pogues? Joe Strummer collaborated with them.

You would probably enjoy Tarantino's new book. He and I like the same movies. He was 8 or 9 when he saw them and I was a teenager (Bullitt, Dirty Harry, Deliverance, The Getaway, The Outfit, etc.). He dedicates entire chapters to those films.


Photo: Sam and Steve on set of The Getaway

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^^^ Sounds like Monty Buckley deserves a fair piece of credit for attracting Kidd to Cal. ^^^

For those who weren't around the Bay Area or Cal at the time, you gotta understand that there was nothing like Jason Kidd as a local high school hoops legend -- starting around the end of his freshman season at St. Joe's -- and when he announced he was coming to Cal, it was just insane.

And with the exception of us getting tripped up by Wisconsin GB in his final game as a Golden Bear, I'd have to say that the Jason Kidd Years at Cal absolutely did not disappoint. Just look at the passes in that video...
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All the men in the video have aged gracefully. Is Lamond morphing into Dr. Harry?
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part 4: Murray

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrMEwjBs6bg/




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SWEET sixteen


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Big C said:

^^^ Sounds like Monty Buckley deserves a fair piece of credit for attracting Kidd to Cal. ^^^

For those who weren't around the Bay Area or Cal at the time, you gotta understand that there was nothing like Jason Kidd as a local high school hoops legend -- starting around the end of his freshman season at St. Joe's -- and when he announced he was coming to Cal, it was just insane.
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Midnight madness kidd's freshman year, I was probably around 12. Waiting in line to get into Harmon, just everyone buzzing. It's up there as my favorite cal sports moment. I still have the Tshirt. It's iconic.
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HAHA yes that was awesome. I remember there was some dude in the stands screaming "JKIDD! JKIDD!" over and over again. It got annoying, but we all felt the same sentiment.
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I went to this by myself when I was in HS. I remember some of my friends snuck through the windows on the roof.
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^^^ When the Bears ran out onto the court from the NW corner, EVERY SINGLE eye in the place was on Jason Kidd! ^^^

I remember, we were like, "Where is he... which one is he... THERE HE IS... YES!!!"
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udaman1 said:

HAHA yes that was awesome. I remember there was some dude in the stands screaming "JKIDD! JKIDD!" over and over again. It got annoying, but we all felt the same sentiment.

I remember that too!
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