OFFICIAL BEARINSIDER LAKER PLAYOFF THREAD

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Anarchistbear
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Lakers better get a blow out soon so the old man can get some rest.
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Loved LeBron flop on Jokic where replay showed no contact and LeBron reacted like he just got taken out by a linebacker and flew 10 feet…..the Joker then returned the favor by flopping on LeBron on the other end.



* LeBron James has missed 19 straight 3-pointers in the fourth quarter, the longest streak of any player in the last 25 postseasons, per ESPN.
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We'll see if it was the altitude in game 3 but I thought it would show up in the GS series. Maybe I was a bit early in my prediction.

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bearister said:

Pistol Lite had virtually the same stats in Game 2 that he had in Game 1:
50% from the field; 55% from arc with 22 points (identical shooting percentages in Game 1 with 23 points).

https://media.tenor.com/2TQobrJeGiwAAAAC/austin-reaves-lakers.gif
Larry Bird once trash talked Pete Maravich in his rookie season at the end of Maravich's career.

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Lebron has made no threes in both games. Hexes automatic against Warriors. Sigh…
Go Bears!
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The flow of each game has been different but the bottom line is that the Lakers have had uphill battles in both games and not made plays at the end when it really mattered. To me that's indicative of the fact the Nuggets are better. The Lakers are good and can beat them but their margin of error is thin. If you want to pull off an upset you have to be the clutch team … and they've been the opposite.
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Boston loses two home games

Jaylen had two bad games:

Game 1:
10-21, 1-6 from 3. Team high 9 rebounds. +3
(5 assists, 6 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Game 2:
7-23, 1-7 from 3. Took the most shots, and had the worst +/-
(4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Every year it looks like it could be Boston's year, but they seem to get knocked off along the way. Not sure if they have the right core
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Which maybe the rumors with the Dubs. Think I saw something involving Brown and Brogdon for Poole and someone else?
Start Slowly and taper off
GMP
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So, who is gonna start the Nuggets Finals thread next week? ColoradoBear?
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HoopDreams said:

Boston loses two home games

Jaylen had two bad games:

Game 1:
10-21, 1-6 from 3. Team high 9 rebounds. +3
(5 assists, 6 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Game 2:
7-23, 1-7 from 3. Took the most shots, and had the worst +/-
(4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Every year it looks like it could be Boston's year, but they seem to get knocked off along the way. Not sure if they have the right core


Tatum is a great player, but not sure he is good enough to build a championship team around. He would be an awesome 2nd star to pair with a great point guard or big man. I think Tatum and Brown are too similar to each other. You can't win with your two best players being wings. I can't recall the last team that did.

The other problem with Boston is that while Brown and Tatum are excellent, they don't have a lot of talent after that. They could win if they had a decent point guard or big man to take some pressure off.



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HoopDreams said:

Boston loses two home games

Jaylen had two bad games:

Game 1:
10-21, 1-6 from 3. Team high 9 rebounds. +3
(5 assists, 6 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Game 2:
7-23, 1-7 from 3. Took the most shots, and had the worst +/-
(4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Every year it looks like it could be Boston's year, but they seem to get knocked off along the way. Not sure if they have the right core

Jimmy Butler is hard and a closer. Tatum is soft and a choke. It's like the 1996 Masters. Norman had a 6 stroke lead over Faldo going into the final round on Sunday….and Faldo puts up a final 18 hole round 11 strokes lower than Norman winning the Masters by 5 strokes (a 67 vs 78).
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dimitrig said:

HoopDreams said:

Boston loses two home games

Jaylen had two bad games:

Game 1:
10-21, 1-6 from 3. Team high 9 rebounds. +3
(5 assists, 6 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Game 2:
7-23, 1-7 from 3. Took the most shots, and had the worst +/-
(4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Every year it looks like it could be Boston's year, but they seem to get knocked off along the way. Not sure if they have the right core


Tatum is a great player, but not sure he is good enough to build a championship team around. He would be an awesome 2nd star to pair with a great point guard or big man. I think Tatum and Brown are too similar to each other. You can't win with your two best players being wings. I can't recall the last team that did.

The other problem with Boston is that while Brown and Tatum are excellent, they don't have a lot of talent after that. They could win if they had a decent point guard or big man to take some pressure off.






Don't know the <last> Championship team whose two best players were wings, but Jordan and Pippin immediately comes to mind.
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dimitrig said:

HoopDreams said:

Boston loses two home games

Jaylen had two bad games:

Game 1:
10-21, 1-6 from 3. Team high 9 rebounds. +3
(5 assists, 6 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Game 2:
7-23, 1-7 from 3. Took the most shots, and had the worst +/-
(4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Every year it looks like it could be Boston's year, but they seem to get knocked off along the way. Not sure if they have the right core


Tatum is a great player, but not sure he is good enough to build a championship team around. He would be an awesome 2nd star to pair with a great point guard or big man. I think Tatum and Brown are too similar to each other. You can't win with your two best players being wings. I can't recall the last team that did.

The other problem with Boston is that while Brown and Tatum are excellent, they don't have a lot of talent after that. They could win if they had a decent point guard or big man to take some pressure off.




I think what Boston needs is Jordan poole, wiggins and kuminga
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dimitrig said:

HoopDreams said:

Boston loses two home games

Jaylen had two bad games:

Game 1:
10-21, 1-6 from 3. Team high 9 rebounds. +3
(5 assists, 6 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Game 2:
7-23, 1-7 from 3. Took the most shots, and had the worst +/-
(4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Every year it looks like it could be Boston's year, but they seem to get knocked off along the way. Not sure if they have the right core


Tatum is a great player, but not sure he is good enough to build a championship team around. He would be an awesome 2nd star to pair with a great point guard or big man. I think Tatum and Brown are too similar to each other. You can't win with your two best players being wings. I can't recall the last team that did.

The other problem with Boston is that while Brown and Tatum are excellent, they don't have a lot of talent after that. They could win if they had a decent point guard or big man to take some pressure off.






Brogdon is 6 th man of the year, Smart is a DPOY, White is a versatile guard and all NBA defensive player, Williams/ Horford provide rim protection and 3 point shooting. Their supporting cast is fine- certainly better than Miami's and enough talent to make the finals

The problem is they can't seem to close out games especially at home. As you point out Tatum and Brown are both wings but neither of them respond well to ball pressure and this results in a lot of turnovers, or attempts to bully three people. This gets worse as the game goes on. If they aren't hitting 3's they aren't winning.

Contrast that with Jimmy Butler and the no names where Butler gets the ball, everybody knows what he will do and he still scores or makes a pass to a teammate who does. The guy is fantastically tough and rises to challenges. The Celtics are soft.
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calumnus said:

dimitrig said:

HoopDreams said:

Boston loses two home games

Jaylen had two bad games:

Game 1:
10-21, 1-6 from 3. Team high 9 rebounds. +3
(5 assists, 6 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Game 2:
7-23, 1-7 from 3. Took the most shots, and had the worst +/-
(4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Every year it looks like it could be Boston's year, but they seem to get knocked off along the way. Not sure if they have the right core


Tatum is a great player, but not sure he is good enough to build a championship team around. He would be an awesome 2nd star to pair with a great point guard or big man. I think Tatum and Brown are too similar to each other. You can't win with your two best players being wings. I can't recall the last team that did.

The other problem with Boston is that while Brown and Tatum are excellent, they don't have a lot of talent after that. They could win if they had a decent point guard or big man to take some pressure off.






Don't know the <last> Championship team whose two best players were wings, but Jordan and Pippin immediately comes to mind.


That is probably the last team and Tatum and Brown ain't Jordan and Pippen.

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Anarchistbear said:

dimitrig said:

HoopDreams said:

Boston loses two home games

Jaylen had two bad games:

Game 1:
10-21, 1-6 from 3. Team high 9 rebounds. +3
(5 assists, 6 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Game 2:
7-23, 1-7 from 3. Took the most shots, and had the worst +/-
(4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Every year it looks like it could be Boston's year, but they seem to get knocked off along the way. Not sure if they have the right core


Tatum is a great player, but not sure he is good enough to build a championship team around. He would be an awesome 2nd star to pair with a great point guard or big man. I think Tatum and Brown are too similar to each other. You can't win with your two best players being wings. I can't recall the last team that did.

The other problem with Boston is that while Brown and Tatum are excellent, they don't have a lot of talent after that. They could win if they had a decent point guard or big man to take some pressure off.






Brogdon is 6 th man of the year, Smart is a DPOY, White is a versatile guard and all NBA defensive player, Williams/ Horford provide rim protection and 3 point shooting. Their supporting cast is fine- certainly better than Miami's and enough talent to make the finals

The problem is they can't seem to close out games especially at home. As you point out Tatum and Brown are both wings but neither of them respond well to ball pressure and this results in a lot of turnovers, or attempts to bully three people. This gets worse as the game goes on. If they aren't hitting 3's they aren't winning.

Contrast that with Jimmy Butler and the no names where Butler gets the ball, everybody knows what he will do and he still scores or makes a pass to a teammate who does. The guy is fantastically tough and rises to challenges. The Celtics are soft.


Smart and White are excellent defenders but both of them in the starting lineup is not ideal. Boston needs to be able to bring in another scorer, preferably one who can get into the paint. They rely on the outside shot too much and when it isn't falling they are sunk.


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Austin Reaves continues to kill it in playoffs….first half A+.
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bearister said:

Pistol Lite had virtually the same stats in Game 2 that he had in Game 1:
50% from the field; 55% from arc with 22 points (identical shooting percentages in Game 1 with 23 points).




Pistol Lite Game 3:

70% from field; 60% from arc for 23 points
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bearister said:

bearister said:

Pistol Lite had virtually the same stats in Game 2 that he had in Game 1:
50% from the field; 55% from arc with 22 points (identical shooting percentages in Game 1 with 23 points).

https://media.tenor.com/2TQobrJeGiwAAAAC/austin-reaves-lakers.gif


Pistol Lite Game 3:

70% from field; 60% from arc for 23 points
Pistol Lite 1 game from 1-2-3 Cancun
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Almost as good as the Nuggets beating the Lakers for the 3rd game in a row is knowing that all those celeb$$$ they showed before the game like Nicholson, Denzel, Hudson, Adele and more all got to go home as loser fans
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I'll drink to that!! BEAT LA!!
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His Playoffs performance is going to make him serious bank.

*Current contract:
Austin Reaves signed a 2 year / $2,488,776 contract with the Los Angeles Lakers, including $2,488,776 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $1,244,388.

* Austin Reaves has averaged 16.9 points, 4.7 assists and 4.6 rebounds in 15 games in the playoffs in his career.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/austin-reaves-playoff-stats
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All things considered it's been a very good year for the Lakers.

Now for ABB (anybody but Boston). Let's go Miami.
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If it's Miami vs Denver the NBA will inaugurate a new consolation championship in prime time
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3Cats4CAL said:

Almost as good as the Nuggets beating the Lakers for the 3rd game in a row is knowing that all those celeb$$$ they showed before the game like Nicholson, Denzel, Hudson, Adele and more all got to go home as loser fans
poor people. its so rough getting into the limo for the drive of shame back to beverly hills. what will they now do for entertainment. Might have to fly to the french riviera to get rid of the stench of finishing 7 in the west only to get bounced in the western conf finals by the #1 seed. how embarrassing.

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bearister said:

His Playoffs performance is going to make him serious bank.

*Current contract:
Austin Reaves signed a 2 year / $2,488,776 contract with the Los Angeles Lakers, including $2,488,776 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $1,244,388.

* Austin Reaves has averaged 16.9 points, 4.7 assists and 4.6 rebounds in 15 games in the playoffs in his career.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/austin-reaves-playoff-stats
Hopefully he doesn't have the Jordan Poole thing happen to him, but he's certainly been impressive.
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bearister said:


Jimmy Butler is hard and a closer.


Yup.
Jimmy Buckets is a flat out BALLER!

I think the Lakers "peaked" against the Dubs. They look tired and their shooting percentage is now in the dumpster.
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DiabloWags said:

bearister said:


Jimmy Butler is hard and a closer.


Yup.
Jimmy Buckets is a flat out BALLER!

I think the Lakers "peaked" against the Dubs. They look tired and their shooting percentage is now in the dumpster.

Maybe they should join the big 10
Go Bears!
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ducky23 said:

dimitrig said:

HoopDreams said:

Boston loses two home games

Jaylen had two bad games:

Game 1:
10-21, 1-6 from 3. Team high 9 rebounds. +3
(5 assists, 6 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Game 2:
7-23, 1-7 from 3. Took the most shots, and had the worst +/-
(4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Every year it looks like it could be Boston's year, but they seem to get knocked off along the way. Not sure if they have the right core


Tatum is a great player, but not sure he is good enough to build a championship team around. He would be an awesome 2nd star to pair with a great point guard or big man. I think Tatum and Brown are too similar to each other. You can't win with your two best players being wings. I can't recall the last team that did.

The other problem with Boston is that while Brown and Tatum are excellent, they don't have a lot of talent after that. They could win if they had a decent point guard or big man to take some pressure off.




I think what Boston needs is Jordan poole, wiggins and kuminga


I do wonder if Boston would consider trading him. With both Tatum and Brown eligible for a Super max contract, will they want to pay both of them? The new CBA makes it harder to build a team if you have multiple big contracts like that.
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Tatum and Brown 1-14 from 3 and 6 turnovers. It's a team game.
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philbert said:

ducky23 said:

dimitrig said:

HoopDreams said:

Boston loses two home games

Jaylen had two bad games:

Game 1:
10-21, 1-6 from 3. Team high 9 rebounds. +3
(5 assists, 6 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Game 2:
7-23, 1-7 from 3. Took the most shots, and had the worst +/-
(4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Every year it looks like it could be Boston's year, but they seem to get knocked off along the way. Not sure if they have the right core


Tatum is a great player, but not sure he is good enough to build a championship team around. He would be an awesome 2nd star to pair with a great point guard or big man. I think Tatum and Brown are too similar to each other. You can't win with your two best players being wings. I can't recall the last team that did.

The other problem with Boston is that while Brown and Tatum are excellent, they don't have a lot of talent after that. They could win if they had a decent point guard or big man to take some pressure off.




I think what Boston needs is Jordan poole, wiggins and kuminga


I do wonder if Boston would consider trading him. With both Tatum and Brown eligible for a Super max contract, will they want to pay both of them? The new CBA makes it harder to build a team if you have multiple big contracts like that.


While my silly trade proposal was said in jest, I do believe that a sweep (or even gentleman's sweep) will really force Boston to reassess whether the two can play together (especially both at the max)

If brown demands the max, I really don't know what Boston does. Cause no matter what Boston does around the edges, it doesn't appear that Boston can win with the two of them as their best players

Unfortunately I don't think the warriors have the assets to entice Boston…(nor do I know if it's even a viable trade), but one can dream of Jaylen in blue and gold again. I can't think of s better complement to Steph on both ends of the court
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ducky23 said:

philbert said:

ducky23 said:

dimitrig said:

HoopDreams said:

Boston loses two home games

Jaylen had two bad games:

Game 1:
10-21, 1-6 from 3. Team high 9 rebounds. +3
(5 assists, 6 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Game 2:
7-23, 1-7 from 3. Took the most shots, and had the worst +/-
(4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Every year it looks like it could be Boston's year, but they seem to get knocked off along the way. Not sure if they have the right core


Tatum is a great player, but not sure he is good enough to build a championship team around. He would be an awesome 2nd star to pair with a great point guard or big man. I think Tatum and Brown are too similar to each other. You can't win with your two best players being wings. I can't recall the last team that did.

The other problem with Boston is that while Brown and Tatum are excellent, they don't have a lot of talent after that. They could win if they had a decent point guard or big man to take some pressure off.




I think what Boston needs is Jordan poole, wiggins and kuminga


I do wonder if Boston would consider trading him. With both Tatum and Brown eligible for a Super max contract, will they want to pay both of them? The new CBA makes it harder to build a team if you have multiple big contracts like that.


While my silly trade proposal was said in jest, I do believe that a sweep (or even gentleman's sweep) will really force Boston to reassess whether the two can play together (especially both at the max)

If brown demands the max, I really don't know what Boston does. Cause no matter what Boston does around the edges, it doesn't appear that Boston can win with the two of them as their best players

Unfortunately I don't think the warriors have the assets to entice Boston…(nor do I know if it's even a viable trade), but one can dream of Jaylen in blue and gold again. I can't think of s better complement to Steph on both ends of the court


This is a very impatient and too-in-the-moment take.

Less than a year ago, basically this same squad was two wins from winning the title. They didn't just suddenly forget how to win together. They're just having a bad series.
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GMP said:

ducky23 said:

philbert said:

ducky23 said:

dimitrig said:

HoopDreams said:

Boston loses two home games

Jaylen had two bad games:

Game 1:
10-21, 1-6 from 3. Team high 9 rebounds. +3
(5 assists, 6 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Game 2:
7-23, 1-7 from 3. Took the most shots, and had the worst +/-
(4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Every year it looks like it could be Boston's year, but they seem to get knocked off along the way. Not sure if they have the right core


Tatum is a great player, but not sure he is good enough to build a championship team around. He would be an awesome 2nd star to pair with a great point guard or big man. I think Tatum and Brown are too similar to each other. You can't win with your two best players being wings. I can't recall the last team that did.

The other problem with Boston is that while Brown and Tatum are excellent, they don't have a lot of talent after that. They could win if they had a decent point guard or big man to take some pressure off.




I think what Boston needs is Jordan poole, wiggins and kuminga


I do wonder if Boston would consider trading him. With both Tatum and Brown eligible for a Super max contract, will they want to pay both of them? The new CBA makes it harder to build a team if you have multiple big contracts like that.


While my silly trade proposal was said in jest, I do believe that a sweep (or even gentleman's sweep) will really force Boston to reassess whether the two can play together (especially both at the max)

If brown demands the max, I really don't know what Boston does. Cause no matter what Boston does around the edges, it doesn't appear that Boston can win with the two of them as their best players

Unfortunately I don't think the warriors have the assets to entice Boston…(nor do I know if it's even a viable trade), but one can dream of Jaylen in blue and gold again. I can't think of s better complement to Steph on both ends of the court


This is a very impatient and too-in-the-moment take.

Less than a year ago, basically this same squad was two wins from winning the title. They didn't just suddenly forget how to win together. They're just having a bad series.
Just out of curiosity, what's your take on the Dubs? Do they need to retool their roster? You could make a similar argument for them and they actually did win the title last year.

I don't know the correct answer for either team, although I think trading Poole away now while his value is low would be a mistake.
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GMP said:

ducky23 said:

philbert said:

ducky23 said:

dimitrig said:

HoopDreams said:

Boston loses two home games

Jaylen had two bad games:

Game 1:
10-21, 1-6 from 3. Team high 9 rebounds. +3
(5 assists, 6 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Game 2:
7-23, 1-7 from 3. Took the most shots, and had the worst +/-
(4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 TOs, no steals or blocks)

Every year it looks like it could be Boston's year, but they seem to get knocked off along the way. Not sure if they have the right core


Tatum is a great player, but not sure he is good enough to build a championship team around. He would be an awesome 2nd star to pair with a great point guard or big man. I think Tatum and Brown are too similar to each other. You can't win with your two best players being wings. I can't recall the last team that did.

The other problem with Boston is that while Brown and Tatum are excellent, they don't have a lot of talent after that. They could win if they had a decent point guard or big man to take some pressure off.




I think what Boston needs is Jordan poole, wiggins and kuminga


I do wonder if Boston would consider trading him. With both Tatum and Brown eligible for a Super max contract, will they want to pay both of them? The new CBA makes it harder to build a team if you have multiple big contracts like that.


While my silly trade proposal was said in jest, I do believe that a sweep (or even gentleman's sweep) will really force Boston to reassess whether the two can play together (especially both at the max)

If brown demands the max, I really don't know what Boston does. Cause no matter what Boston does around the edges, it doesn't appear that Boston can win with the two of them as their best players

Unfortunately I don't think the warriors have the assets to entice Boston…(nor do I know if it's even a viable trade), but one can dream of Jaylen in blue and gold again. I can't think of s better complement to Steph on both ends of the court


This is a very impatient and too-in-the-moment take.

Less than a year ago, basically this same squad was two wins from winning the title. They didn't just suddenly forget how to win together. They're just having a bad series.


They've been in the conference final 5 out of the last 7 years mostly they were young and gritty underdog. Not this year. Two all NBA players, second best record in the NBA., and the whole thing on a silver platter with Giannis out. They've had 3 bad series against inferior opponents- Atlanta in 6, Philly in 7 and now Miami in 4. No way this group remains intact- be it the coach or key players. This is an embarrassing loss and lack of effort and this group is not going to win a championship.
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The Boston Coach is getting schooled by Miami's coach.
He is just not ready for prime time.
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