What is a Motivator?

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BearlyCareAnymore
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I'm going to start by saying that this is not a backhanded slap at Mark Madison. I don't know if he is a great motivator or not. Way too early to tell. However, it is a direct challenge to the reasons some have characterized him as a motivator versus other coaches.

A motivator is not a guy who gives a Knute Rockne speech. It isn't a guy that you talk to at an alumni function who makes you wish you were 20 years old so you can lace them up. It isn't a guy who "makes you want to run through a brick wall". This is a fallacy because these are singular events and it assumes that success comes from the game time and maybe the 10 minutes before. It doesn't. Game time success comes from all the work you put in when fans aren't watching.

Neither Bruce Snyder nor Jeff Tedford were guys with fiery personalities. But whatever they did to accomplish it, they had their players working their asses off and making tremendous progress in developing physically and from a skills perspective and both had many players who succeeded at a higher level than was expected out of high school. Both produced a lot of pro level players. You don't do that by getting them excited to run out of a locker room. You do that by understanding what it takes to succeed, understanding that all the little things you do every day add up to big things over time and show themselves on game day. You do that by getting your players to understand that and to be motivated 24/7.

Further, it doesn't matter how rah rah you can be if you can't back it up. If you run through that wall and there was no reason for it, you don't run through it a second time. Joe Kapp was exciting. In 1982 when he yelled "The Bear Will Not Quit! The Bear Will Not Die!" it was electric and everyone felt it. In 1985 when he did that, you were looking for rotten tomatoes and eggs to pelt him with and you felt like everyone else was too.

You cannot tell from watching a guy talk for a few minutes whether he is a motivator. A motivator doesn't send chills up your spine. A motivator gets you to bench press at 6 am or to put in a 1000 reps to improve your game. And a motivator knows how to pick players who will be motivated and motivate each other.

But most of all, the way you tell if a coach is a motivator is if his teams are motivated. Tedford's early teams were motivated. Snyder's late teams were motivated. And their performance also showed that they practiced and trained with motivation. A motivated team is technically sound and disciplined AND plays with spirit and they play for each other. When you see that, you will know your coach is a motivator.
calumnus
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BearlyCareAnymore said:

I'm going to start by saying that this is not a backhanded slap at Mark Madison. I don't know if he is a great motivator or not. Way too early to tell. However, it is a direct challenge to the reasons some have characterized him as a motivator versus other coaches.

A motivator is not a guy who gives a Knute Rockne speech. It isn't a guy that you talk to at an alumni function who makes you wish you were 20 years old so you can lace them up. It isn't a guy who "makes you want to run through a brick wall". This is a fallacy because these are singular events and it assumes that success comes from the game time and maybe the 10 minutes before. It doesn't. Game time success comes from all the work you put in when fans aren't watching.

Neither Bruce Snyder nor Jeff Tedford were guys with fiery personalities. But whatever they did to accomplish it, they had their players working their asses off and making tremendous progress in developing physically and from a skills perspective and both had many players who succeeded at a higher level than was expected out of high school. Both produced a lot of pro level players. You don't do that by getting them excited to run out of a locker room. You do that by understanding what it takes to succeed, understanding that all the little things you do every day add up to big things over time and show themselves on game day. You do that by getting your players to understand that and to be motivated 24/7.

Further, it doesn't matter how rah rah you can be if you can't back it up. If you run through that wall and there was no reason for it, you don't run through it a second time. Joe Kapp was exciting. In 1982 when he yelled "The Bear Will Not Quit! The Bear Will Not Die!" it was electric and everyone felt it. In 1985 when he did that, you were looking for rotten tomatoes and eggs to pelt him with and you felt like everyone else was too.

You cannot tell from watching a guy talk for a few minutes whether he is a motivator. A motivator doesn't send chills up your spine. A motivator gets you to bench press at 6 am or to put in a 1000 reps to improve your game. And a motivator knows how to pick players who will be motivated and motivate each other.

But most of all, the way you tell if a coach is a motivator is if his teams are motivated. Tedford's early teams were motivated. Snyder's late teams were motivated. And their performance also showed that they practiced and trained with motivation. A motivated team is technically sound and disciplined AND plays with spirit and they play for each other. When you see that, you will know your coach is a motivator.


Agree. It can be situational. What worked at one time for one group of players might not work for another group in a different situation. Even individuals within the group might respond differently.

What I will say is negative motivation and authoritarianism, which used to be common many decades ago, only works in the short run if at all. It is especially used in situations you can't escape; the military, prisons, cults, authoritarian countries and formerly D1 sports. Now we have the transfer portal. Players will leave abusive coaches. Mark Fox was a horrible coach for Berkeley in the 21st century. Only a guy who is a career army officer would think his paranoia, secrecy and even court side demeanor was worth hiring and extending. Bobby Knight was fired at Indiana decades ago. An administration that cares about positive coaching and it's student athletes would have fired McKeever years ago, not ignored the reports and given her $millions.

Madsen is the other extreme. Almost an extreme reaction to Fox. He is about the most positive, cheery guy out there. Some people even question if he is "for real." A real life Ted Lasso. A lot depends on results. There is always a danger players don't take a guy like that seriously if the team is losing. As I've said, we will see what we have in Madsen going forward. Are the players listening to his coaching and are they seeing that his coaching is helping them improve and helping the team win?

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A major part of motivating is knowing your audience. In a 40-year career, I can only recall hearing one great motivational speech. Our Director (our manager's boss) came unannounced into our team's meeting. He had a copy of the Corporate Objectives, and he just sat at the table and talked about each objective, why it was important, and how our team could contribute to it, either directly or indirectly. And he said that if we ever felt we were working on something that wasn't linked to one of those objectives, to talk to our manager, or him. For that audience, a group of hyper-analytical IT people, this was what we needed to hear: explain linkages and priorities to help us refocus. That same speech given to Sales, Marketing, or HR staffs would have probably fallen flat.

I recall reading that Leo Durocher was a fiery, in-your-face guy, as both a player and a manager. But he didn't act that way with rookie Willie Mays. He knew that the 20 year-old was incredibly talented, but still a sensitive kid who needed reassurance and guidance and that's what he provided.

Who knows what Madsen's motivation style is with players. Between who he inherited and who he recruited, the team may not all be his ideal type of player, but hopefully he has an approach that's genuine (because players can smell a fake) and flexible so he can reach every player.

EDIT: I see Calumnus has beat me to the punch with much the same statement. He's a smart guy.
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As a related sidelight to this, I think we get waaaaaay to concerned about what our coaches say to the press, especially right after a loss... parsing their words, "Wait, did that sound like he was throwing his players under the bus?!?" And of course, after a loss, pretty much everything is going to sound stupid, whereas after a win...

A good motivator is a good communicator. And we are only privy to a small, small fraction of the communication that is going on.
bearister
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A Motivator to me is someone passionate that Talks the Talk and Walked the Walk (played pro ball).
Dan Campbell falls in this category like Madsen. I don't know if he is much of an X's and O's guy either.


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