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Once they blew the whistle calling and making the call, the possession by Cal was immaterial. Dead ball at the time of the whistle. It went to whomever had the possession arrowBearprof said:
On the overturned goal-tending call, why did possession go to OSU? A Cal player had procured the ball. If they called the foul before said procurement, it should have been a jump ball, no? It worked out for us but I was wondering what I missed.
My guess is that the rule doesn't cover the result, the way the NFL does. We're so used to seeing it in the NFL that it would just make make more sense for either a jump ball or a Cal possession.OdontoBear66 said:Once they blew the whistle calling and making the call, the possession by Cal was immaterial. Dead ball at the time of the whistle. It went to whomever had the possession arrowBearprof said:
On the overturned goal-tending call, why did possession go to OSU? A Cal player had procured the ball. If they called the foul before said procurement, it should have been a jump ball, no? It worked out for us but I was wondering what I missed.
HoopDreams said:
Not a good decision by brown on that heat check shot
It ended up being a "jump ball" possession arrow OSU. The whistle came before the Cal possession... supposedly.RedlessWardrobe said:My guess is that the rule doesn't cover the result, the way the NFL does. We're so used to seeing it in the NFL that it would just make make more sense for either a jump ball or a Cal possession.OdontoBear66 said:Once they blew the whistle calling and making the call, the possession by Cal was immaterial. Dead ball at the time of the whistle. It went to whomever had the possession arrowBearprof said:
On the overturned goal-tending call, why did possession go to OSU? A Cal player had procured the ball. If they called the foul before said procurement, it should have been a jump ball, no? It worked out for us but I was wondering what I missed.
Regardless of all that, it was an abolutely ridiculous call in the first place. Hopefully next year in the new conference the incompetency will go away.
Bearprof said:
My guess is that the rule doesn't cover the result, the way the NFL does. We're so used to seeing it in the NFL that it would just make more sense for either a jump ball or a Cal possession.
Regardless of all that, it was an abolutely ridiculous call in the first place.
barsad said:Bearprof said:
My guess is that the rule doesn't cover the result, the way the NFL does. We're so used to seeing it in the NFL that it would just make more sense for either a jump ball or a Cal possession.
Regardless of all that, it was an abolutely ridiculous call in the first place.
Was just talking about this with a friend, the idea of "declining a call with continuation advantage" like the NFL really should be part of the NCAA and NBA rules. It wasn't just the goaltending call that disadvantaged Cal last night, there was another play where they called a foul on the floor as the ball went to someone (Newell?) for a dunk. Those points were erased… the dead ball whistle without continuation encourages the defense to commit petty fouls on the floor to defend the basket.
In the case of goaltending that gets overturned, we're punished for a ref's mistake. With the simple rule in place, the refs would go over to Madsen, he'd say "call declined," and Cal retains possession. I can dream, can't I?
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Your dream makes perfect sense. Who knows, someday we may see it. I'm just thankful that the current rule didn't come back to bite us last night.barsad said:Bearprof said:
My guess is that the rule doesn't cover the result, the way the NFL does. We're so used to seeing it in the NFL that it would just make more sense for either a jump ball or a Cal possession.
Regardless of all that, it was an abolutely ridiculous call in the first place.
Was just talking about this with a friend, the idea of "declining a call with continuation advantage" like the NFL really should be part of the NCAA and NBA rules. It wasn't just the goaltending call that disadvantaged Cal last night, there was another play where they called a foul on the floor as the ball went to someone (Newell?) for a dunk. Those points were erased… the dead ball whistle without continuation encourages the defense to commit petty fouls on the floor to defend the basket.
In the case of goaltending that gets overturned, we're punished for a ref's mistake. With the simple rule in place, the refs would go over to Madsen, he'd say "call declined," and Cal retains possession. I can dream, can't I?
philbert said:Got the job done 👊#GoBears pic.twitter.com/cluz4akta6
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