Cal (-9.5) vs Sometimes Men Make the Strangest Requests - AKA OSU game thread

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Shocky1
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3,012
sonofabear51
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Open the gates! Put butts in the seats! If we lived local I'd be there every home game. 400 miles is a bit much to travel.

If, and when Knowlton and his minions are fired, and things change, we will be there in a heartbeat,.

Until then, support is always there, albeit from afar.

Best we can do right now.

GO BEARS!!
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Shocky1
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51, agreed open the front doors not only for all berkeley students but all bay area students of any age for senior day
sonofabear51
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Yes sir!! Agree totally. The previous 6-7 years ruined the Bball program. Start it off with free tickets, create interest. The team is beginning a new era and is winning and playing exciting ball. I remember as a young man Cal Bball not being very good, this was late '70's and into the '80's before Campanelli, think Herrerrias, Padgett and Kuchen. But Harmon atmosphere was always off the charts. They would do well to recreate that atmosphere in Haas as well, but I know very well that will never happen. Watching it tonight, it is amazing how many empty front row seats there are. If AD management thinks this is working, they need to get a clue: ITS NOT! Fire them. NOW! Wake up dummies!
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barsad
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Great night for Cal basketball, erasing a crappy 1st half by showing resilience and grit and hot 3-pt shooting. I am not worried about the meager crowds, they will come back when the team starts winning more, and that will definitely happen in the next three years. Free student tickets will not make a significant difference in crowd size but it can't hurt.
This time I stuck around to watch Madsen and the team do their post-game walk-and-hug around the VIP seats (and student section) courtside, with Madsen on the mic giving a shout out to the crowd. I thought, can you picture Mark Fox doing something like this? Madsen has an authenticity that is rare, and we've got to do everything we can to keep him.
On firing JK, my understanding is that his contract runs to 2028 and the school would have to eat millions of dollars in guaranteed payouts. It was bad enough that we handed that kind of money to Fox and let him get away with it, we're not going to do it for JK, too.
My point is, we have the coach we need now, JK is not going to get in his way, so let's just look forward to that better future instead of running a constant "fire JK" campaign.
Shocky1
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barsad, pretty obvious that u bleed blue & gold but it's also pretty obvious that ur views ("not worried about the meager crowds") on attendance patterns r outdated, just winning more games won't result in more fans at haas pavilion, got it?...buying tixs to athletic events in berkeley isn't the same as it wuz decades ago

case in point, rugby wins national championships against yet there are only a couple of hundred fans on gamedays...the bears are winning basketball games yet only 3012 fans showed up, the mbb needs a less obstinate sales/marketing director (anybody other than markeisha) who will offer FREE tixs to all students to generate loud gameday energy & also build a pipeline to future season tix buyers & mega donors

and how do u successfully recruit when there's only 3012 fans in the haas?

bottom line there's zero chance madsen is gonna stick around long term without a dedicated basketball practice facility & there's zero chance that's gonna happen under general knowlton's watch which is contractually extended thru 2029 (not 2028)...the most financially viable solution is for the next chancellor (hopefully richard lyons) to fire him for his role with the suicidal women's swimmers...knowlton got no remorse for that tragedy/future lawsuits, he bragged in knowlton notes how he accompanied the evil as **** jennifer simon-o'neil to the recent acc planning session

stanford's next basketball coaching search (which could happen during the next 30 days) will likely include an actionable offer to mark but if u wanna just close ur eyes & hope that magically more fans r magically gonna start supporting the basketball programs & that madsen got a lifetime contract with no buyout that's ur choice but u might be disappointed when the easter bunny don't show up either
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On the overturned goal-tending call, why did possession go to OSU? A Cal player had procured the ball. If they called the foul before said procurement, it should have been a jump ball, no? It worked out for us but I was wondering what I missed.
OdontoBear66
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Bearprof said:

On the overturned goal-tending call, why did possession go to OSU? A Cal player had procured the ball. If they called the foul before said procurement, it should have been a jump ball, no? It worked out for us but I was wondering what I missed.
Once they blew the whistle calling and making the call, the possession by Cal was immaterial. Dead ball at the time of the whistle. It went to whomever had the possession arrow
RedlessWardrobe
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OdontoBear66 said:

Bearprof said:

On the overturned goal-tending call, why did possession go to OSU? A Cal player had procured the ball. If they called the foul before said procurement, it should have been a jump ball, no? It worked out for us but I was wondering what I missed.
Once they blew the whistle calling and making the call, the possession by Cal was immaterial. Dead ball at the time of the whistle. It went to whomever had the possession arrow
My guess is that the rule doesn't cover the result, the way the NFL does. We're so used to seeing it in the NFL that it would just make make more sense for either a jump ball or a Cal possession.
Regardless of all that, it was an abolutely ridiculous call in the first place. Hopefully next year in the new conference the incompetency will go away.
drizzlybear
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HoopDreams said:

Not a good decision by brown on that heat check shot

He was checking others' heat, haha.
bearsandgiants
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With wsu's incredible win, should those rankings hold, we really need to get that 4 or 5 spot, and the 4 spot would mean one less game. We can do this.
75bear
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Btw - Was that Jalen Cone's sister who sang the national anthem (Joy Cone)? Either way, nice job!
Civil Bear
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RedlessWardrobe said:

OdontoBear66 said:

Bearprof said:

On the overturned goal-tending call, why did possession go to OSU? A Cal player had procured the ball. If they called the foul before said procurement, it should have been a jump ball, no? It worked out for us but I was wondering what I missed.
Once they blew the whistle calling and making the call, the possession by Cal was immaterial. Dead ball at the time of the whistle. It went to whomever had the possession arrow
My guess is that the rule doesn't cover the result, the way the NFL does. We're so used to seeing it in the NFL that it would just make make more sense for either a jump ball or a Cal possession.
Regardless of all that, it was an abolutely ridiculous call in the first place. Hopefully next year in the new conference the incompetency will go away.
It ended up being a "jump ball" possession arrow OSU. The whistle came before the Cal possession... supposedly.
barsad
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Bearprof said:

My guess is that the rule doesn't cover the result, the way the NFL does. We're so used to seeing it in the NFL that it would just make more sense for either a jump ball or a Cal possession.
Regardless of all that, it was an abolutely ridiculous call in the first place.

Was just talking about this with a friend, the idea of "declining a call with continuation advantage" like the NFL really should be part of the NCAA and NBA rules. It wasn't just the goaltending call that disadvantaged Cal last night, there was another play where they called a foul on the floor as the ball went to someone (Newell?) for a dunk. Those points were erased… the dead ball whistle without continuation encourages the defense to commit petty fouls on the floor to defend the basket.
In the case of goaltending that gets overturned, we're punished for a ref's mistake. With the simple rule in place, the refs would go over to Madsen, he'd say "call declined," and Cal retains possession. I can dream, can't I?
Civil Bear
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barsad said:

Bearprof said:

My guess is that the rule doesn't cover the result, the way the NFL does. We're so used to seeing it in the NFL that it would just make more sense for either a jump ball or a Cal possession.
Regardless of all that, it was an abolutely ridiculous call in the first place.

Was just talking about this with a friend, the idea of "declining a call with continuation advantage" like the NFL really should be part of the NCAA and NBA rules. It wasn't just the goaltending call that disadvantaged Cal last night, there was another play where they called a foul on the floor as the ball went to someone (Newell?) for a dunk. Those points were erased… the dead ball whistle without continuation encourages the defense to commit petty fouls on the floor to defend the basket.
In the case of goaltending that gets overturned, we're punished for a ref's mistake. With the simple rule in place, the refs would go over to Madsen, he'd say "call declined," and Cal retains possession. I can dream, can't I?

I would love to see delayed calls like delayed penalties in the NHL. The whistle isn't blown until after the possession. If the team scores it waived off. Just think what that would do for the flow of the game.
philbert
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RedlessWardrobe
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barsad said:

Bearprof said:

My guess is that the rule doesn't cover the result, the way the NFL does. We're so used to seeing it in the NFL that it would just make more sense for either a jump ball or a Cal possession.
Regardless of all that, it was an abolutely ridiculous call in the first place.

Was just talking about this with a friend, the idea of "declining a call with continuation advantage" like the NFL really should be part of the NCAA and NBA rules. It wasn't just the goaltending call that disadvantaged Cal last night, there was another play where they called a foul on the floor as the ball went to someone (Newell?) for a dunk. Those points were erased… the dead ball whistle without continuation encourages the defense to commit petty fouls on the floor to defend the basket.
In the case of goaltending that gets overturned, we're punished for a ref's mistake. With the simple rule in place, the refs would go over to Madsen, he'd say "call declined," and Cal retains possession. I can dream, can't I?
Your dream makes perfect sense. Who knows, someday we may see it. I'm just thankful that the current rule didn't come back to bite us last night.
bearsandgiants
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philbert said:




God I love Madsen. And this team. Please make a tourney bid happen. Would be the greatest story in many years. Up there with the kidd sweet16
 
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