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Madsen wasn't on the post game show on KGO radio. It was the associate Mazerei. All he said about the three men out was that we had some injuries. Of course the announcer Justin Alegri didn't ask him about the injuries. Great reporting.

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Bring back John Wheeler

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Are you referencing Bear Talk with Marty Lurie, Dave Bollwinkel and John Wheeler? I could hardly wait to get to my car after the game to fire it up. My favorite caller was Ivan from wherever. He was a serious hoop junkie.

When the popular post game show ended, I spoke to Dave Bollwinkel about it (we were members of the same gym). Dave told me that the Cal hoop program got the show dropped for being "too negative." The Ghost of Mario Savio cried.

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I did. I cried.

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bearister said:

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Madsen wasn't on the post game show on KGO radio. It was the associate Mazerei. All he said about the three men out was that we had some injuries. Of course the announcer Justin Alegri didn't ask him about the injuries. Great reporting.

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Bring back John Wheeler

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Are you referencing Bear Talk with Marty Lurie, Dave Bollwinkel and John Wheeler? I could hardly wait to get to my car after the game to fire it up. My favorite caller was Ivan from wherever. He was a serious hoop junkie.

When the popular post game show ended, I spoke to Dave Bollwinkel about it (we were members of the same gym). Dave told me that the Cal hoop program got the show dropped for being "too negative." The Ghost of Mario Savio cried.

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I did. I cried.

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Was very insightful. Loved it.

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Golden One said:

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Cal Straw Hat Band is not in Haas tonight. They're playing piped in music, and it is HORRIBLY loud.

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Band should be at every home game, no excuses. I don't care if the band won the International Pep Band competition and are playing Wembley Stadium, 10 people stay behind to support the team. Just to be clear, I have no idea where they actually are, just making a point.

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Cmon man, this happens every single year during big game week. Traditionally alumni band fills in, guess they couldn't round up enough this year.

Maybe next year you can volunteer. Do you play the cymbals?

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I play the sax, and of course I would have filled a slot if I had been asked (turns out, nobody cared enough to ask for volunteers). Clearly you're speaking from a position of zero knowledge about college bands if you think that the band can't split into two squads during Big Game week.
Supporting the major teams (NOT just football) is literally the primary job of the band. When they don't show, and the fans are as sparse as they were tonight, and the cheerleaders are just standing still on the floor because they have only practiced moves on band songs, not super loud recorded crap over the speakers - - well, it says a lot to the outside world about Cal sports, that's all I'm saying. Time to stop saying "c'mon, it's always been this way" and start saying, "How do we make the Haas experience worthy of the ACC, something to be proud of again?"

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1. Cal Band alumni were recruited to perform at the game, and they did at Wednesday's women's game, but they didn't get enough people for last night's men's game.
2. The band does split into smaller groups and perform at many events during Big Game week, but they also need rehearsal time for the whole band, which may be why they weren't able to come to this game.

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barsad said:

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barsad said:

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Golden One said:

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Cal Straw Hat Band is not in Haas tonight. They're playing piped in music, and it is HORRIBLY loud.

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Band should be at every home game, no excuses. I don't care if the band won the International Pep Band competition and are playing Wembley Stadium, 10 people stay behind to support the team. Just to be clear, I have no idea where they actually are, just making a point.

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Cmon man, this happens every single year during big game week. Traditionally alumni band fills in, guess they couldn't round up enough this year.

Maybe next year you can volunteer. Do you play the cymbals?

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I play the sax, and of course I would have filled a slot if I had been asked (turns out, nobody cared enough to ask for volunteers). Clearly you're speaking from a position of zero knowledge about college bands if you think that the band can't split into two squads during Big Game week.
Supporting the major teams (NOT just football) is literally the primary job of the band. When they don't show, and the fans are as sparse as they were tonight, and the cheerleaders are just standing still on the floor because they have only practiced moves on band songs, not super loud recorded crap over the speakers - - well, it says a lot to the outside world about Cal sports, that's all I'm saying. Time to stop saying "c'mon, it's always been this way" and start saying, "How do we make the Haas experience worthy of the ACC, something to be proud of again?"

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1. Cal Band alumni were recruited to perform at the game, and they did at Wednesday's women's game, but they didn't get enough people for last night's men's game.
2. The band does split into smaller groups and perform at many events during Big Game week, but they also need rehearsal time for the whole band, which may be why they weren't able to come to this game.

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An idea to get older Alumni interested in performing. GET RID OF The REQUIREMENT WE HAVE TO STAND FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. Many friends would have come but too old to do this . WE NEVER DID THIS WHEN WE WERE IN THE BAND

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barsad said:

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Golden One said:

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Cal Straw Hat Band is not in Haas tonight. They're playing piped in music, and it is HORRIBLY loud.

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Band should be at every home game, no excuses. I don't care if the band won the International Pep Band competition and are playing Wembley Stadium, 10 people stay behind to support the team. Just to be clear, I have no idea where they actually are, just making a point.

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Cmon man, this happens every single year during big game week. Traditionally alumni band fills in, guess they couldn't round up enough this year.

Maybe next year you can volunteer. Do you play the cymbals?

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I play the sax, and of course I would have filled a slot if I had been asked (turns out, nobody cared enough to ask for volunteers). Clearly you're speaking from a position of zero knowledge about college bands if you think that the band can't split into two squads during Big Game week.
Supporting the major teams (NOT just football) is literally the primary job of the band. When they don't show, and the fans are as sparse as they were tonight, and the cheerleaders are just standing still on the floor because they have only practiced moves on band songs, not super loud recorded crap over the speakers - - well, it says a lot to the outside world about Cal sports, that's all I'm saying. Time to stop saying "c'mon, it's always been this way" and start saying, "How do we make the Haas experience worthy of the ACC, something to be proud of again?"

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I think sometimes we tend to forget is that these are STUDENTS who aren't getting paid or getting any class credit, and they are putting in an inordinate amount of time per week for band. And during big game week, it's even crazier where there's not really a single break. Each band member will typically attend 2-3 events per day during big game week, and that's not counting practice and rehearsal.

And as someone else mentioned, they are already being spread thin on big game week as they are broken up into groups to attend multiple events that are happening at the same time all throughout the week.

But if you believe in this strongly, which I respect, here is the email for the band director and Excomm and you can let them know your feelings. All I ask is that you post their reply.


:msadowski@berkeley.edu

:excomm@calband.org

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ducky23 said:

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Golden One said:

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Cal Straw Hat Band is not in Haas tonight. They're playing piped in music, and it is HORRIBLY loud.

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Band should be at every home game, no excuses. I don't care if the band won the International Pep Band competition and are playing Wembley Stadium, 10 people stay behind to support the team. Just to be clear, I have no idea where they actually are, just making a point.

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Cmon man, this happens every single year during big game week. Traditionally alumni band fills in, guess they couldn't round up enough this year.

Maybe next year you can volunteer. Do you play the cymbals?

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I play the sax, and of course I would have filled a slot if I had been asked (turns out, nobody cared enough to ask for volunteers). Clearly you're speaking from a position of zero knowledge about college bands if you think that the band can't split into two squads during Big Game week.
Supporting the major teams (NOT just football) is literally the primary job of the band. When they don't show, and the fans are as sparse as they were tonight, and the cheerleaders are just standing still on the floor because they have only practiced moves on band songs, not super loud recorded crap over the speakers - - well, it says a lot to the outside world about Cal sports, that's all I'm saying. Time to stop saying "c'mon, it's always been this way" and start saying, "How do we make the Haas experience worthy of the ACC, something to be proud of again?"

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I play Snare Drum but cant stand for two hours. If they are interested in older Band Alumni they could tell us that the band will be sitting

Have band members entered The Portal?

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barsad said:

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ducky23 said:

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barsad said:

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Golden One said:

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Cal Straw Hat Band is not in Haas tonight. They're playing piped in music, and it is HORRIBLY loud.

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Band should be at every home game, no excuses. I don't care if the band won the International Pep Band competition and are playing Wembley Stadium, 10 people stay behind to support the team. Just to be clear, I have no idea where they actually are, just making a point.

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Cmon man, this happens every single year during big game week. Traditionally alumni band fills in, guess they couldn't round up enough this year.

Maybe next year you can volunteer. Do you play the cymbals?

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I play the sax, and of course I would have filled a slot if I had been asked (turns out, nobody cared enough to ask for volunteers). Clearly you're speaking from a position of zero knowledge about college bands if you think that the band can't split into two squads during Big Game week.
Supporting the major teams (NOT just football) is literally the primary job of the band. When they don't show, and the fans are as sparse as they were tonight, and the cheerleaders are just standing still on the floor because they have only practiced moves on band songs, not super loud recorded crap over the speakers - - well, it says a lot to the outside world about Cal sports, that's all I'm saying. Time to stop saying "c'mon, it's always been this way" and start saying, "How do we make the Haas experience worthy of the ACC, something to be proud of again?"

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I play Snare Drum but cant stand for two hours. If they are interested in older Band Alumni they could tell us that the band will be sitting

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They do not make alumni Band members stand for the whole game, but usually while playing. I think the Alumni Band leadership is pretty accommodating when they need to get certain instrumentation when students aren't available. Why not ask them if you can sit if that's what you need in order to be able to perform?

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It was nice to give some PT opportunity down the bench in a winnable game. AF seemed well coached, but out manned. They were gassed in the second half, but had a great spurt of energy at the end. Seeing this ambulance lineup filled me with these thoughts:

Sissoko/Dort is our two headed monster. Glad we have both of them, because I don't think either could last 25 minutes without fouling out.

Devin Curtis - 6 minutes. Not sure what to do with this guy. Looks good - seems to disappear on the court.

Mahoney - 7 minutes. I want to see more.

Wilkinson - he should start in place of Campbell. But against tougher competition, he may get exposed as ball dominant and prone to defensive mistakes. But I enjoy watching him play. Like Petraitis, he has an infectious energy that makes the team better.

Petraitis - As a starter or 6th man swiss-army knife. Love watching him play and he should be getting starters minutes.

Stojakovic - Becoming the face of the franchise. Seems to get a little better each game.

Tucker - backup PG at best. Glad he gave us 34 solid minutes when needed. Probably gets much less, when everyone is healthy.

Ola-Joseph - I thought he deserved more minutes last night, but happy for his contribution. Maybe he just looks better against that level of competition.

Blacksher - we need him back against tougher comp. Campbell - would rather see him come off the bench. Omot - I hope he feels better against tougher competition, I think we will need him.

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Sissoko had a nice little one-hand . . . sort of a cross between a jump-hook and a push shot from 3-4 feet out. I'd like to see him get to use that a few times/game and Dort should work on such a shot as his entire offense is the dunk shot. I've always thought that every center needs an inside shot that they can get off whether covered or free. Andre Kelly had that. And of course, the ultimate example was Kareem's sky-hook.

"Sissoko/Dort is our two headed monster. Glad we have both of them, because I don't think either could last 25 minutes without fouling out."

Agree, I love our big-man play so far this year, more athletic than we've had in a long time. But I am worried about the 3rd big man, because there seems to be a black hole there if we have Sissoko-Dort at 4 fouls apiece with 10 minutes left in the game. I guess Ola-Joseph in a pinch? Curtis a hard no, and it seems Larson got packed away and forgotten after his failed portal journey.

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"Sissoko/Dort is our two headed monster. Glad we have both of them, because I don't think either could last 25 minutes without fouling out."

Agree, I love our big-man play so far this year, more athletic than we've had in a long time. But I am worried about the 3rd big man, because there seems to be a black hole there if we have Sissoko-Dort at 4 fouls apiece with 10 minutes left in the game. I guess Ola-Joseph in a pinch? Curtis a hard no, and it seems Larson got packed away and forgotten after his failed portal journey.

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Larson was on the bench but not dressed last night. I'm assuming an injury.

I think Curtis is better than Larson.

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I think Curtis is better than Larson.

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I dunno, definitely wasn't the case last season.

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barsad said:

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"Sissoko/Dort is our two headed monster. Glad we have both of them, because I don't think either could last 25 minutes without fouling out."

Agree, I love our big-man play so far this year, more athletic than we've had in a long time. But I am worried about the 3rd big man, because there seems to be a black hole there if we have Sissoko-Dort at 4 fouls apiece with 10 minutes left in the game. I guess Ola-Joseph in a pinch? Curtis a hard no, and it seems Larson got packed away and forgotten after his failed portal journey.

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Larson was on the bench but not dressed last night. I'm assuming an injury.

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I am assuming dog house, not injury. Only 15 players are allowed to dress for any given game, we have 20 (for some reason I can't figure out) on our roster. Hence the 5-man dog house (when there are no injuries).
Curtis is definitely not better than Larson, Gus should be given a chance as the 3rd big.

Has anyone figured out the mysterious injury/illness to 3 starters last game? Why is it considered a state secret, isn't an injury report a standard set of notes the PR people send out to the press?