Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
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The pre Mark Madsen memories still stick but he is turning the ship around. Enjoy the win, but still a work in progress. It is so hard to have patience after so many years in the gutter post Cuonzo. Stat wise better. Pretty, still not there. Sissoko stepped up big last night.
BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
Just saw this after posting on Shocky's thread about the attendance being low. I'm glad you thought there was great energy at Haas last night, but I can't wait for it to return to how it really used to rock, with a full house almost every game. I hope we can get back to those days soon!
OdontoBear66 said:
The pre Mark Madsen memories still stick but he is turning the ship around. Enjoy the win, but still a work in progress. It is so hard to have patience after so many years in the gutter post Cuonzo. Stat wise better. Pretty, still not there. Sissko stepped up big last night.
Sissoko was a man amongst boys last night. What a monster game in the final home game of his collegiate career!
Anyone notice their small guard freshmen from Japan who just torched us in a flurry to (14 points in 14 minutes on 5-8 shooting including 1-1 from 3)?
How many mid-range pull-ups did he hit in a row?
How many mid-range pull-ups did he hit in a row?
Hmm… I did not see Hasse stand up so I didn't see what kind of shape he is in but I wonder if he could run up and down the court all night like officials have to.Addicted-to-TopDog said:
Haase says he should be an official if the broadcasting or coaching thing doesn't work out. He'd probably be terrible at that too. Maybe has a better shot with that though?
Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
Is Ola Joseph injured? Hopefully not for long.
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
I was in the building from the tip-off though I missed the senior ceremony before. I thought the energy was low at the beginning but improved greatly as the game got close then we pulled away. I didn't count the attendees.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
It was a Tale of Two Teams last night: the team that we have been seeing all year that makes fundamental mistakes and blows 10-point leads in a blink of the eye, and the team that plays with heart, as represented by Mady's force-of-nature performance - one that refuses to let a less talented team get the better of them.
I feel like if we had seen the version of Mady we saw last night the whole season, combined with the balanced offensive production (3 other guys in double figures, 49% shooting), then we'd have 4 or 5 more wins.
When do we hear about Mady's application for another year of eligibility?
We have a shot at win No. 14 next Sat. against Notre Dame (I've written off the Louisville game, but I'll take a miracle, too).
No one will call this season a success, but if we have a good offseason with recruiting, we may look back on this year 5 years from now as the start of something good.
I feel like if we had seen the version of Mady we saw last night the whole season, combined with the balanced offensive production (3 other guys in double figures, 49% shooting), then we'd have 4 or 5 more wins.
When do we hear about Mady's application for another year of eligibility?
We have a shot at win No. 14 next Sat. against Notre Dame (I've written off the Louisville game, but I'll take a miracle, too).
No one will call this season a success, but if we have a good offseason with recruiting, we may look back on this year 5 years from now as the start of something good.
Actually it was a two-minute clip - can watch it here - ESPN Recapbarsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
Not passing judgement, just generally curious since the highlights show a lot of empty seats.
HKBear97! said:Actually it was a two-minute clip - can watch it here - ESPN Recapbarsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
Not passing judgement, just generally curious since the highlights show a lot of empty seats.
Yes, great power of observation, when a 12,000-seat arena is filled with a crowd of 5.020, there are a lot of empty seats.
RedlessWardrobe said:Gee guys, it was 30 years ago. Just maybe it's time to get over it.Big C said:BearSD said:Addicted-to-TopDog said:
Haase says he should be an official if the broadcasting or coaching thing doesn't work out. He'd probably be terrible at that too. Maybe has a better shot with that though?
If Haase was assigned to officiate a Kansas game, would he make a deal before the game to go work for KU after the game?
;-)
I'll never forget Haase' extra-long consoling from Roy Williams after we lost to Kansas. I was thinking at the time, whoa, that's weird. Sure enough, he transfers there.a few weeks later.
Never!
laughing out loud at berating people for being glass half empty folks while lauding attendance that left the stands literally more than half empty. By simple math, calling the glass (er...arena) half empty would be an optimistic view.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
The highlights made it look more like 500, not 5,000.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Actually it was a two-minute clip - can watch it here - ESPN Recapbarsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
Not passing judgement, just generally curious since the highlights show a lot of empty seats.
Yes, great power of observation, when a 12,000-seat arena is filled with a crowd of 5.020, there are a lot of empty seats.
HKBear97! said:The highlights made it look more like 500, not 5,000.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Actually it was a two-minute clip - can watch it here - ESPN Recapbarsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
Not passing judgement, just generally curious since the highlights show a lot of empty seats.
Yes, great power of observation, when a 12,000-seat arena is filled with a crowd of 5.020, there are a lot of empty seats.
If we get an nit game expect 500
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
oskidunker said:HKBear97! said:The highlights made it look more like 500, not 5,000.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Actually it was a two-minute clip - can watch it here - ESPN Recapbarsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
Not passing judgement, just generally curious since the highlights show a lot of empty seats.
Yes, great power of observation, when a 12,000-seat arena is filled with a crowd of 5.020, there are a lot of empty seats.
If we get an nit game expect 500
And yes, we all already know you won't be one of them..,.
Alkiadt said:oskidunker said:HKBear97! said:The highlights made it look more like 500, not 5,000.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Actually it was a two-minute clip - can watch it here - ESPN Recapbarsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
Not passing judgement, just generally curious since the highlights show a lot of empty seats.
Yes, great power of observation, when a 12,000-seat arena is filled with a crowd of 5.020, there are a lot of empty seats.
If we get an nit game expect 500
And yes, we all already know you won't be one of them..,.
No, I will be there. I have season tickets.
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
i have attended every home game since 1986,;except when on vacation. One of my favorite things to do.oskidunker said:Alkiadt said:oskidunker said:HKBear97! said:The highlights made it look more like 500, not 5,000.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Actually it was a two-minute clip - can watch it here - ESPN Recapbarsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
Not passing judgement, just generally curious since the highlights show a lot of empty seats.
Yes, great power of observation, when a 12,000-seat arena is filled with a crowd of 5.020, there are a lot of empty seats.
If we get an nit game expect 500
And yes, we all already know you won't be one of them..,.
No, I will be there. I have season tickets.
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
oskidunker said:i have attended every home game since 1986,;except when on vacation. One of my favorite things to do.oskidunker said:Alkiadt said:oskidunker said:HKBear97! said:The highlights made it look more like 500, not 5,000.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Actually it was a two-minute clip - can watch it here - ESPN Recapbarsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
Not passing judgement, just generally curious since the highlights show a lot of empty seats.
Yes, great power of observation, when a 12,000-seat arena is filled with a crowd of 5.020, there are a lot of empty seats.
If we get an nit game expect 500
And yes, we all already know you won't be one of them..,.
No, I will be there. I have season tickets.
Vacation?
NIT?
You actually have to be a pretty good basketball team to get invited to that. Last year, there were 3 ACC schools in it: Wake Forest, VA Tech, and BC with 20, 19, and 18 wins respectively. This year, think Wake Forest, SMU, UNC, maybe Furd. All of those schools and a few more would have to decline for us to get in.
For Cal, it's see ya NEXT year.
You actually have to be a pretty good basketball team to get invited to that. Last year, there were 3 ACC schools in it: Wake Forest, VA Tech, and BC with 20, 19, and 18 wins respectively. This year, think Wake Forest, SMU, UNC, maybe Furd. All of those schools and a few more would have to decline for us to get in.
For Cal, it's see ya NEXT year.
While your mathematics justifies your opinion, the fact that you go by "BearlyCareAnymore" in turn disqualifies it. Kind of curious, were you part of the "there group" or part of the "not there group"? Which was it?BearlyCareAnymore said:laughing out loud at berating people for being glass half empty folks while lauding attendance that left the stands literally more than half empty. By simple math, calling the glass (er...arena) half empty would be an optimistic view.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
While your "tale of two teams" observation is valid, the simple truth is that for most of this season "the team that plays with heart" team generally only shows up against the mediocre-at best teams. Most of this year's results have still been determined by talent on the floor. Hopefully that changes next year.barsad said:
It was a Tale of Two Teams last night: the team that we have been seeing all year that makes fundamental mistakes and blows 10-point leads in a blink of the eye, and the team that plays with heart, as represented by Mady's force-of-nature performance - one that refuses to let a less talented team get the better of them.
I feel like if we had seen the version of Mady we saw last night the whole season, combined with the balanced offensive production (3 other guys in double figures, 49% shooting), then we'd have 4 or 5 more wins.
When do we hear about Mady's application for another year of eligibility?
We have a shot at win No. 14 next Sat. against Notre Dame (I've written off the Louisville game, but I'll take a miracle, too).
No one will call this season a success, but if we have a good offseason with recruiting, we may look back on this year 5 years from now as the start of something good.
Attendance was slightly better than normal but for whatever reason, fans seemed more engaged. I'll actually give marketing some rare props here. They brought out the Swim-Diving and Women's gymnastics ACC champs to good ovations. The gymnastics team did a little dance routine with the cheerleaders which was fun to see---they got into it. Hafltime show was a cute little girls dance team that got a good reception. The Bearettes and the band were fantastic and seemed to be getting more praise than usual.HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
As for the game, it was competitive and free-flowing which kept fans involved. Maybe it was because of Senior Night? The Saturday night effect? Or maybe it was my pregame martini.
. Either way, a fun night in Haas and a reminder of the "sleeping giant" that Madsen referenced when he got hired. Definitely. Toews had a great impact of the bench. Hopefully we can nab some 6'4 combo guards that can shoot this offseason. Every team seems to have at least one of those players except us.HoopDreams said:
Anyone notice their small guard freshmen from Japan who just torched us in a flurry to (14 points in 14 minutes on 5-8 shooting including 1-1 from 3)?
How many mid-range pull-ups did he hit in a row?
100% in the "not there" group. Which puts me in the vast majority of alums, fans, former fans, and all members of the Cal community. After years of season tickets, Cal has to earn my entertainment dollar, something they have not done in years. If that disqualifies my opinion in your eyes, I can live with that. You may want to consider that a circle jerk of the handful of people going to every game is not going to reawaken Haas. I have literally no Cal friends left that still go to games and that includes several that I have spent hours at a time with in the past talking Cal sports. One I just caught up with didn't know who our coach was. These are all people I would have sworn would go to the grave as season ticket holders.RedlessWardrobe said:While your mathematics justifies your opinion, the fact that you go by "BearlyCareAnymore" in turn disqualifies it. Kind of curious, were you part of the "there group" or part of the "not there group"? Which was it?BearlyCareAnymore said:laughing out loud at berating people for being glass half empty folks while lauding attendance that left the stands literally more than half empty. By simple math, calling the glass (er...arena) half empty would be an optimistic view.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
Your focus is misdirected. The program is fundamentally unsound. That is your problem. Not whether I or anyone else is going to a game between the 15th place team and 17th place team in conference. Our program isn't unsound because people don't go to games. People don't go to games because our program is unsound. I think every single one of you who go to games is great. Live your best life. If you enjoy it no matter what product is put on the court, you do you. But if that is what it takes to be a member of the club, you are going to be left with people lauding the mere possibility of a 14 win/7 conference win season as an improvement over a 13 win/9 conference win season. And that is going to be an even smaller club than you have now.
Geez, I just asked you a simple question, a yes or no would have been fine.BearlyCareAnymore said:100% in the "not there" group. Which puts me in the vast majority of alums, fans, former fans, and all members of the Cal community. After years of season tickets, Cal has to earn my entertainment dollar, something they have not done in years. If that disqualifies my opinion in your eyes, I can live with that. You may want to consider that a circle jerk of the handful of people going to every game is not going to reawaken Haas. I have literally no Cal friends left that still go to games and that includes several that I have spent hours at a time with in the past talking Cal sports. One I just caught up with didn't know who our coach was. These are all people I would have sworn would go to the grave as season ticket holders.RedlessWardrobe said:While your mathematics justifies your opinion, the fact that you go by "BearlyCareAnymore" in turn disqualifies it. Kind of curious, were you part of the "there group" or part of the "not there group"? Which was it?BearlyCareAnymore said:laughing out loud at berating people for being glass half empty folks while lauding attendance that left the stands literally more than half empty. By simple math, calling the glass (er...arena) half empty would be an optimistic view.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
Your focus is misdirected. The program is fundamentally unsound. That is your problem. Not whether I or anyone else is going to a game between the 15th place team and 17th place team in conference. Our program isn't unsound because people don't go to games. People don't go to games because our program is unsound. I think every single one of you who go to games is great. Live your best life. If you enjoy it no matter what product is put on the court, you do you. But if that is what it takes to be a member of the club, you are going to be left with people lauding the mere possibility of a 14 win/7 conference win season as an improvement over a 13 win/9 conference win season. And that is going to be an even smaller club than you have now.
As far as my "focus" being "misdirected", I think you are overthinking things. I'm a Cal fan, so I participate on this website. If you "bearly care anymore", I don't understand why you even bother to spend your time here analyzing me and giving me advice. Its ironic, you tell me "live your best life" but based on your traumatic tone you might want to apply that line of thinking to yourself.
RedlessWardrobe said:Geez, I just asked you a simple question, a yes or no would have been fine.BearlyCareAnymore said:100% in the "not there" group. Which puts me in the vast majority of alums, fans, former fans, and all members of the Cal community. After years of season tickets, Cal has to earn my entertainment dollar, something they have not done in years. If that disqualifies my opinion in your eyes, I can live with that. You may want to consider that a circle jerk of the handful of people going to every game is not going to reawaken Haas. I have literally no Cal friends left that still go to games and that includes several that I have spent hours at a time with in the past talking Cal sports. One I just caught up with didn't know who our coach was. These are all people I would have sworn would go to the grave as season ticket holders.RedlessWardrobe said:While your mathematics justifies your opinion, the fact that you go by "BearlyCareAnymore" in turn disqualifies it. Kind of curious, were you part of the "there group" or part of the "not there group"? Which was it?BearlyCareAnymore said:laughing out loud at berating people for being glass half empty folks while lauding attendance that left the stands literally more than half empty. By simple math, calling the glass (er...arena) half empty would be an optimistic view.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
Your focus is misdirected. The program is fundamentally unsound. That is your problem. Not whether I or anyone else is going to a game between the 15th place team and 17th place team in conference. Our program isn't unsound because people don't go to games. People don't go to games because our program is unsound. I think every single one of you who go to games is great. Live your best life. If you enjoy it no matter what product is put on the court, you do you. But if that is what it takes to be a member of the club, you are going to be left with people lauding the mere possibility of a 14 win/7 conference win season as an improvement over a 13 win/9 conference win season. And that is going to be an even smaller club than you have now.
As far as my "focus" being "misdirected", I think you are overthinking things. I'm a Cal fan, so I participate on this website. If you "bearly care anymore", I don't understand why you even bother to spend your time here analyzing me and giving me advice. Its ironic, you tell me "live your best life" but based on your traumatic tone you might want to apply that line of thinking to yourself.
BCA still cares, but bearly. (statement and pun at the same time)
Where I agree with him is that we don't go to games out of "loyalty" (another poster in another thread exhorted us to do this, recently). We go because we feel the experience is worth our while. Twenty years ago, I went to all the football and basketball games and figured I always would. Then I had kids... Now I go to Big Game, often one other football game and about 70% of the basketball games. I enjoy the basketball games, even when we suck (sitting with old friends really helps). But maybe one day I won't. who knows, and then I'm out.
It's up to Cal to put out a product that will attract students, alums and general fans. I'm not opposed to NIL, but with that, coaches making huge bucks, $5 bottles of water, inane promotions, etc, I feel like the "loyalty thing" is a thing of the past... if it ever was a thing.
You didn't ask a simple question. You made a statement that my opinion was disqualified. Then you asked a simple question that on its face seems intended to further prove your point that my opinion is disqualified. I answered your question then responded to your assertion that my opinion was disqualified. Whether your question was intended to bolster your assertion, the assertion was made and I responded to it. So no, a simple yes or no would not have been fine with me because telling someone their opinion is disqualified rather than simply stating your disagreement is objectionable. If you don't tell me my opinion is disqualified, we aren't having this conversation.RedlessWardrobe said:Geez, I just asked you a simple question, a yes or no would have been fine.BearlyCareAnymore said:100% in the "not there" group. Which puts me in the vast majority of alums, fans, former fans, and all members of the Cal community. After years of season tickets, Cal has to earn my entertainment dollar, something they have not done in years. If that disqualifies my opinion in your eyes, I can live with that. You may want to consider that a circle jerk of the handful of people going to every game is not going to reawaken Haas. I have literally no Cal friends left that still go to games and that includes several that I have spent hours at a time with in the past talking Cal sports. One I just caught up with didn't know who our coach was. These are all people I would have sworn would go to the grave as season ticket holders.RedlessWardrobe said:While your mathematics justifies your opinion, the fact that you go by "BearlyCareAnymore" in turn disqualifies it. Kind of curious, were you part of the "there group" or part of the "not there group"? Which was it?BearlyCareAnymore said:laughing out loud at berating people for being glass half empty folks while lauding attendance that left the stands literally more than half empty. By simple math, calling the glass (er...arena) half empty would be an optimistic view.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
Your focus is misdirected. The program is fundamentally unsound. That is your problem. Not whether I or anyone else is going to a game between the 15th place team and 17th place team in conference. Our program isn't unsound because people don't go to games. People don't go to games because our program is unsound. I think every single one of you who go to games is great. Live your best life. If you enjoy it no matter what product is put on the court, you do you. But if that is what it takes to be a member of the club, you are going to be left with people lauding the mere possibility of a 14 win/7 conference win season as an improvement over a 13 win/9 conference win season. And that is going to be an even smaller club than you have now.
As far as my "focus" being "misdirected", I think you are overthinking things. I'm a Cal fan, so I participate on this website. If you "bearly care anymore", I don't understand why you even bother to spend your time here analyzing me and giving me advice. Its ironic, you tell me "live your best life" but based on your traumatic tone you might want to apply that line of thinking to yourself.
I said to go ahead and live your best life assuming that is what you are doing. You are the one telling me how I should spend my time. There was nothing traumatic in either of my posts. I made a simple assertion that calling someone a half empty person for not joining in lauding a more than half empty arena was laughable. I don't see that opinion was traumatic or so negative that I should be disqualified from posting. I think if that does that for you, you should reevaluate your tolerance level.
And as BigC suggests, my name is "bearly" care, not "barely" care. Yes, the pun is intended, but the two words don't mean the same thing.
Wow, ok. Maybe you're taking all this stuff a bit too seriously. I enjoy Cal sports and go to games. Sounds like you've lost interest, which is fine. Don't go to the games if it doesn't do anything for you. But there's no need to be so hostile with those that do, really.BearlyCareAnymore said:You didn't ask a simple question. You made a statement that my opinion was disqualified. Then you asked a simple question that on its face seems intended to further prove your point that my opinion is disqualified. I answered your question then responded to your assertion that my opinion was disqualified. Whether your question was intended to bolster your assertion, the assertion was made and I responded to it. So no, a simple yes or no would not have been fine with me because telling someone their opinion is disqualified rather than simply stating your disagreement is objectionable. If you don't tell me my opinion is disqualified, we aren't having this conversation.RedlessWardrobe said:Geez, I just asked you a simple question, a yes or no would have been fine.BearlyCareAnymore said:100% in the "not there" group. Which puts me in the vast majority of alums, fans, former fans, and all members of the Cal community. After years of season tickets, Cal has to earn my entertainment dollar, something they have not done in years. If that disqualifies my opinion in your eyes, I can live with that. You may want to consider that a circle jerk of the handful of people going to every game is not going to reawaken Haas. I have literally no Cal friends left that still go to games and that includes several that I have spent hours at a time with in the past talking Cal sports. One I just caught up with didn't know who our coach was. These are all people I would have sworn would go to the grave as season ticket holders.RedlessWardrobe said:While your mathematics justifies your opinion, the fact that you go by "BearlyCareAnymore" in turn disqualifies it. Kind of curious, were you part of the "there group" or part of the "not there group"? Which was it?BearlyCareAnymore said:laughing out loud at berating people for being glass half empty folks while lauding attendance that left the stands literally more than half empty. By simple math, calling the glass (er...arena) half empty would be an optimistic view.barsad said:HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
My God there are some real glass-half-empty folks on this Forum, but I guess that's the whole online world, no different here.
5.020 attended, 30% more than the season average 3,889. I was there, and the fans were into it on senior day, and the guys ultimately delivered the win we badly needed. Now I'll wait for those who want to discuss how attendance isn't the number of people in the stands, blah-blah, or those really informed people who were nowhere near Haas last night but have a strong opinion about the energy inside the building based on a 3-second clip they saw. Go ahead.
Your focus is misdirected. The program is fundamentally unsound. That is your problem. Not whether I or anyone else is going to a game between the 15th place team and 17th place team in conference. Our program isn't unsound because people don't go to games. People don't go to games because our program is unsound. I think every single one of you who go to games is great. Live your best life. If you enjoy it no matter what product is put on the court, you do you. But if that is what it takes to be a member of the club, you are going to be left with people lauding the mere possibility of a 14 win/7 conference win season as an improvement over a 13 win/9 conference win season. And that is going to be an even smaller club than you have now.
As far as my "focus" being "misdirected", I think you are overthinking things. I'm a Cal fan, so I participate on this website. If you "bearly care anymore", I don't understand why you even bother to spend your time here analyzing me and giving me advice. Its ironic, you tell me "live your best life" but based on your traumatic tone you might want to apply that line of thinking to yourself.
I said to go ahead and live your best life assuming that is what you are doing. You are the one telling me how I should spend my time. There was nothing traumatic in either of my posts. I made a simple assertion that calling someone a half empty person for not joining in lauding a more than half empty arena was laughable. I don't see that opinion was traumatic or so negative that I should be disqualified from posting. I think if that does that for you, you should reevaluate your tolerance level.
And as BigC suggests, my name is "bearly" care, not "barely" care. Yes, the pun is intended, but the two words don't mean the same thing.
I've been to every home game this season, and this one was definitely up there as far as energy is concerned. Not a big crowd, but very much engaged. Then I came home and watched the ESPNU broadcast I had recorded, and in large part that fan energy did not come through on TV. I complained on this Forum a lot during the game, but thanks to those two consecutive late threes by Andrej and Jeremiah and Mady's ferociousness, I really enjoyed this win.BC Calfan said:Attendance was slightly better than normal but for whatever reason, fans seemed more engaged. I'll actually give marketing some rare props here. They brought out the Swim-Diving and Women's gymnastics ACC champs to good ovations. The gymnastics team did a little dance routine with the cheerleaders which was fun to see---they got into it. Hafltime show was a cute little girls dance team that got a good reception. The Bearettes and the band were fantastic and seemed to be getting more praise than usual.HKBear97! said:Really? Didn't watch the game, but just watched the highlights on ESPN.com. Stands looked very empty.BC Calfan said:
Great energy at Haas last night. And this for a 13-16 team. If we can retain and improve for next season, look out.
As for the game, it was competitive and free-flowing which kept fans involved. Maybe it was because of Senior Night? The Saturday night effect? Or maybe it was my pregame martini.
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Agreed, it's much easier to evaluate the atmosphere of a game when you actually attend. Initially I think that's all Barsad was trying to point out. But BearlyCareAnymore (did I get the spelling right?), had an issue with it and unfortunately I got involved in the middle of it. Led to me being lectured and psycho analyzed on a board that's supposed to be about Cal basketball. Well, I guess everyone has to do their own thing, but again your analysis above was spot on.
Agreed, it's much easier to evaluate the atmosphere of a game when you actually attend. Initially I think that's all Barsad was trying to point out. But BearlyCareAnymore (did I get the spelling right?), had an issue with it and unfortunately I got involved in the middle of it. Led to me being lectured and psycho analyzed on a board that's supposed to be about Cal basketball. Well, I guess everyone has to do their own thing, but again your analysis above was spot on.
RedlessWardrobe said:
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Agreed, it's much easier to evaluate the atmosphere of a game when you actually attend. Initially I think that's all Barsad was trying to point out. But BearlyCareAnymore (did I get the spelling right?), had an issue with it and unfortunately I got involved in the middle of it. Led to me being lectured and psycho analyzed on a board that's supposed to be about Cal basketball. Well, I guess everyone has to do their own thing, but again your analysis above was spot on.
Did you get to lie on a couch?
Worth it!
Yes, Haas was pretty empty 
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