Big C said:

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Great to have this! One thing: I feel like listing the walk-ons kind of muddies up the water.

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Ccajon2 said:

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Big C said:

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Great to have this! One thing: I feel like listing the walk-ons kind of muddies up the water.

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Agree, thanks It gives me a headache just to look at all these players in their ratings and their nil value I like the o n e site, though

Current projected Atlantic Coast conference wins next year:

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3 wins

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Big C said:

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Ccajon2 said:

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Big C said:

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Great to have this! One thing: I feel like listing the walk-ons kind of muddies up the water.

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Agree, thanks It gives me a headache just to look at all these players in their ratings and their nil value I like the o n e site, though

Current projected Atlantic Coast conference wins next year:

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3 wins

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Can't we win at least a couple more than last season? I mean, please?

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MiZery said:

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Not dj Campbell? Didn't he start to begin with last year ?

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barsad said:

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MiZery said:

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Not dj Campbell? Didn't he start to begin with last year ?

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Definitely could be DJ, but he's going to have to earn it in practice. I am guessing that Ruff will scrimmage better and get open for more shots, but it's a coin flip this early.

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BearGreg said:

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HoopDreams said:

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barsad said:

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MiZery said:

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Not dj Campbell? Didn't he start to begin with last year ?

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Definitely could be DJ, but he's going to have to earn it in practice. I am guessing that Ruff will scrimmage better and get open for more shots, but it's a coin flip this early.

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Ruff has a very unorthodox shot, and is built like Rodney Brown. That might be ok, but I don't expect him to be a big impact his first year. If he can provide some regular second team minutes that would be good. We first need to see his defense.

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I don't think that's correct. Jovani's got a much broader build and a thicker lower body. He's a body type that will add muscle easily.

Here's him going for 51 points a couple of months ago.

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HoopDreams said:

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BearGreg said:

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HoopDreams said:

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barsad said:

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MiZery said:

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Not dj Campbell? Didn't he start to begin with last year ?

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Definitely could be DJ, but he's going to have to earn it in practice. I am guessing that Ruff will scrimmage better and get open for more shots, but it's a coin flip this early.

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Ruff has a very unorthodox shot, and is built like Rodney Brown. That might be ok, but I don't expect him to be a big impact his first year. If he can provide some regular second team minutes that would be good. We first need to see his defense.

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I don't think that's correct. Jovani's got a much broader build and a thicker lower body. He's a body type that will add muscle easily.

Here's him going for 51 points a couple of months ago.

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Thanks for posting. I hadn't see that before. 51 points in 3 quarters is impressive.

He does look like he's filled out in the last year.

Unless I missed it, I didn't see any shot longer than 10 feet. Looks like he has a nice mid range, but in the ACC he will need to shoot from 18+ feet. Not sure if he improved in that area from a year ago.

Hope I'm wrong and he will have a bigger first year impact compared to Rodney Brown.

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HoopDreams said:

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thanks for posting the video

yes, it shows his shooting which looks pretty accurate. When I first saw his shot I compared it to LaMello Ball. Ball had a similar form and was a very good shooter. When he got to the nba he rebuilt his shot and improved a lot. It's very tough to completely rebuild your shot and if you are a good shooter it's probably not advisable in season.

And while I'm being devils advocate, a few things from watching that video:

- he played well vs a team with good talent

- Number 0, Alijah Arenas looks like the better player. That's no shame as he got a lot of High D1 offers and signed with USC, but I noticed his coach switched defenders on Arenas. Ruff started off defending him, but coach switched defenders after Arenas scored multiple times on Ruff. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean he's not a good defender, but it is an indication.

- Ruff wasn't able to get all the way to the rack on his drives, although his mid-range jumper looks pretty good

Top 50? You've seen him a lot more than me, so I'll defer to you on that ranking, but he looks top 150 to me, which is good

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Big C said:

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^ All these teams playing and Top 150 is only a "body"?

How many incoming freshman recruits in the past 7-8 years have we had that were even Top 150?

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Big C said:

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Great to have this! One thing: I feel like listing the walk-ons kind of muddies up the water.

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BearSD said:

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Big C said:

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Great to have this! One thing: I feel like listing the walk-ons kind of muddies up the water.

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Reminder that once the House settlement goes into effect -- the judge held the final hearing today re giving her approval to the settlement, and will issue an order soon -- the distinction between scholarship players and walk-ons effectively goes away. Each men's hoops team will have a maximum roster of 15 players and can give (or not give) athletic scholarships to any or all of them.

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BearSD said:

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Big C said:

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Great to have this! One thing: I feel like listing the walk-ons kind of muddies up the water.

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Reminder that once the House settlement goes into effect -- the judge held the final hearing today re giving her approval to the settlement, and will issue an order soon -- the distinction between scholarship players and walk-ons effectively goes away. Each men's hoops team will have a maximum roster of 15 players and can give (or not give) athletic scholarships to any or all of them.

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HearstMining said:

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I thought Madsen said he wanted to always have plenty of fresh bodies to challenge the rotation players in practice.

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barsad said:

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New projected lineup, based on my assumption that Madsen promised the Pippens (father and son) a starting slot. Man do we need some more size, Ilic isn't enough.
Pippen
Ames
Ilic
Stojakovic
Petraitis

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barsad said:

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Adjusting projected starters to bring in Yeanay (finally some size to pair with Ilic!)
Stojakovic SG
Pippen G
Petraitis F
Yeanay F
Ilic C
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I could see Petraitis losing his spot to Dorsey unless he learns how to score more consistently.

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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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It's not rocket science, you don't leave Michigan, ranked 21st on KenPom, to come to Cal, ranked 110th, for anything except guaranteed playing time or money. The Pippens don't need money.
It's true that he or his dad could have had a falling out with Dusty May, but in that case why choose Cal vs all the other schools above us unless he knows he will be starting or at least sharing PG duties?

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Would you think this if his name weren't Pippen? Players at better schools who get no playing time are the cliche transfer portal get for us, along side players who get plenty of playing time at lower level schools. It's not about the team you come from. It's about the teams you can go to.

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Intuit said:

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Right now, supposition has the 2025-26 roster incomplete and unfinished. It is expected that the existing squad will be materially benefited through the addition of an undeclared silent commit. Speculation is that Cal in addition to the silent continues to recruit the Portal seeking the best available talent to improve the projected roster.

Is Mark Madson keeping the identity of the silent unannounced in order to minimize the possibility of adverse recruiting designed to destabilize existing, potential or targeted Cal players.

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