socaltownie;842261297 said:

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You would have to look to be sure they are 5th year immediately eligible transfers. They may be hardships or JC's. As it has been suggested on this board in the past, the issue is that Cal's likely grad schools (Haas and the School of Ed....I guess also Public Policy and Public Health) will NOT make special admission pools for grad student NCAA athletes. Thus the student has to compete head to head _AND_ is at the mercy of these schools admission calendars. That can mean the kid could be waiting and SOL LONG after LOI day in even the Spring.

Again, I am skeptical that football actually did get guys in. If I am wrong do a service to the community and try to find from the media guide(s) what they were actually studying.

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I think taylor Krieg 2006 and Zach Smith 2007 from Duke were the only grad transfers

http://www.contracostatimes.com/colleges/ci_7125727?nclick_check=1%22

buster99;842261340 said:

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I think taylor Krieg 2006 and Zach Smith 2007 from Duke were the only grad transfers

http://www.contracostatimes.com/colleges/ci_7125727?nclick_check=1%22

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The article indicates the program in the School of Ed. Better minds than mine would know if the school has or hasn't tightened things up in respect to admissions.

socaltownie;842261347 said:

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The article indicates the program in the School of Ed. Better minds than mine would know if the school has or hasn't tightened things up in respect to admissions.

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Duke is a good school. I'd bet those two mostly qualified on their academic merits. But then the next question is how much did they really contribute to football, or did they use it as a way to get to Cal (one year OOS is not cheap either).

I've said this before, but the grad transfer rule doesn't bother me that much, mostly because its a decent reward for graduating - something that happens far too infrequently in CFB or MBB. One year rentals? There are ups and downs to that. Generally these will be 5th year SRs, so we're not talking NBA early entry potential generally. And often these might not be the best fits for the new team.

ColoradoBear1;842261349 said:

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Duke is a good school. I'd bet those two mostly qualified on their academic merits. But then the next question is how much did they really contribute to football, or did they use it as a way to get to Cal (one year OOS is not cheap either).

I've said this before, but the grad transfer rule doesn't bother me that much, mostly because its a decent reward for graduating - something that happens far too infrequently in CFB or MBB. One year rentals? There are ups and downs to that. Generally these will be 5th year SRs, so we're not talking NBA early entry potential generally. And often these might not be the best fits for the new team.

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Might not bother you but would drive the faculty at the grad schools to revolt. For the vast majority of faculty (including schools like Public Health which do not do undergrad) it is a sacred cow which would not be gored. Students would be in the same pool as others and while Duke is a "good school" it isn't at ALL clear that most Duke grads are going to be that competitive with the traditional profile of Cal's grad school applicants in the small programs.

both krieg & smith had 3.7-3.8 gpas at duke and were serious students...one of them was studying kinseology

neither one saw much pt while at cal but both left with their grad degrees

krieg's claim to fame was talking bears back up qb levy to running a td rushing play at the end of the holiday beatdown of texas a&m when tedford had told levy to take a knee...jt ran out on the field & grabbed levy by the facemask

krieg & smith were highly qualified student athlete transfers from a highly respected college, not a 2.5 gpa dumb azz at unlv with a strong interest in oregon's truck stop mgmt program

Shocky1;842261410 said:

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both krieg & smith had 3.7-3.8 gpas at duke and were serious students...one of them was studying kinseology

neither one saw much pt while at cal but both left with their grad degrees

krieg's claim to fame was talking bears back up qb levy to running a td rushing play at the end of the holiday beatdown of texas a&m when tedford had told levy to take a knee...jt ran out on the field & grabbed levy by the facemask

krieg & smith were highly qualified student athlete transfers from a highly respected college, not a 2.5 gpa dumb azz at unlv with a strong interest in oregon's truck stop mgmt program

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Shocky do you know which program they were admitted to? 3.7/3.8 from Duke probably competitive for the school of ed. Unlikely to school of public health. Definitely a no admit for most Cal terminal PhD programs. If you think undergrad admissions is competitive double that for admission to the doctorate programs.

socaltownie;842261420 said:

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Shocky do you know which program they were admitted to? 3.7/3.8 from Duke probably competitive for the school of ed. Unlikely to school of public health. Definitely a no admit for most Cal terminal PhD programs. If you think undergrad admissions is competitive double that for admission to the doctorate programs.

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Oh but one last thing. Timing is a big issue. I can't imagine any of the grad programs at Cal adjusting admission cycle to meet the needs of a college athlete. Plus it would be blatantly unfair to the rest of the applicants for said class. Typically admissions would be on the same timeline as undergrad - so applications do around the late fall with decisions announced sometime mid-Spring. You can check the respective school's web site for precise dates.

Dirtbag? Um ok.

Thought that Shocky would have given up on the "our athletes are far more intelligent than any other school in the country" act after seeing Cal's recent graduation rates in football.

socaltownie;842261407 said:

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Might not bother you but would drive the faculty at the grad schools to revolt. For the vast majority of faculty (including schools like Public Health which do not do undergrad) it is a sacred cow which would not be gored. Students would be in the same pool as others and while Duke is a "good school" it isn't at ALL clear that most Duke grads are going to be that competitive with the traditional profile of Cal's grad school applicants in the small programs.

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I meant the NCAA wide rule doesn't bother me. If Cal can't play that game due to entrance requirements, I'm not saying we should change. If it's a disadvantage, so be it.

The rule only really affects transfers in football, baseball, and basketball which the NCAA deems as low achieving in terms of academics. Thus the NCAA makes one sit out a year when transfering. Other sports, it allows one to transfer without sitting out. So again if a player actually graduates, should he be held back by the transfer rule the NCAA put in place because players in FB and BB were transferring but with no real chance of graduating?

alex illikainen, who will be officially visiting cal for the arizona game, just cancelled the official visit he was going to take to oregon earlier that week

oregon bb under dana altman is like a hot girl with herpes...the more you know, the less attractive she becomes

this is oregon basketball#
just do it#

BowDowntoWashington;842261616 said:

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Dirtbag? Um ok.

Thought that Shocky would have given up on the "our athletes are far more intelligent than any other school in the country" act after seeing Cal's recent graduation rates in football.

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agreed that cal's fb graduation rates are unacceptable...i started the "cal recruiting great students" thread because i was concerned about the #s of cal players with hs gpas under 3.0 gpa being recruited by lupus (with jt looking the other way)

lorenzo romar, who is a good man, jumped the shark when he allowed venroy overton to continue playing for the huskys when overton was charged with rape of an underage girl...overton has since been arrested for additonal charges including pimping underage girls into prostitution

lorenzo lost his mojo & good karma at that pt & husky bb recruting has gone downhill since then...as the oldest tenured pac 12 bb coach & a true family man, i hope lorenzo can turn it around

dana altman, is a whole different deal, he's bad news & a disgrace to the university of oregon