Gotta be top 5. Coach Hurley said the most all around player he ever coached. I hope FUCLA can squeak by Zona and wipe the smile off future All Turkish League Second Team Aaron Gordon. He won't be backing down guys in the paint in the NBA at his height---you have to take your defender head on at that height like Kyle does.

No way he's top five, especially when you have players like Parker, Wiggins, Embiid, Exum, Smart, Randle, and Vonleh in this draft. I see him as a late first round because it's difficult to assess how his game will translate to the nba

Seems it's more about the right team drafting him, a team that would know how to use him...but late first round does sound right. He can go high but if the wrong team takes him, he'll wallow in turd. I don't follow the NBA closely so I don't know what would be the best team.

Top ten

beelzebear;842293031 said:

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Seems it's more about the right team drafting him, a team that would know how to use him...but late first round does sound right. He can go high but if the wrong team takes him, he'll wallow in turd. I don't follow the NBA closely so I don't know what would be the best team.

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His problem is that he's too slow to be a 3 and not strong enough to be a 4. I love his game, but I just don't see it translating well enough to merit a lottery pick

emanbears24;842293033 said:

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His problem is that he's too slow to be a 3 and not strong enough to be a 4. I love his game, but I just don't see it translating well enough to merit a lottery pick

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Larry Bird was slow with a 10 inch vertical leap. Give me 6'9 with ball handling skills, a shot, a nose for rebounds, a high b ball IQ, and solid character and I want that player on my team. More than half the players listed above will be NBA footnotes. I called Klay early in college when most here said he sucked and I'm calling Kyle. He a baller.

He is no Larry Bird, IMO, not close

Bearprof;842293051 said:

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He is no Larry Bird, IMO, not close

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I knew Larry Bird, Larry Bird was a friend of mine, Kyle Anderson is no Larry Bird.

I did not mean to compare him to Larry Bird per se but was using Larry as an analogy. Everything is relative and on a relative scale Kyle is Larry like in comparison to his draft class. He is only 20 years old and is the type of player that will get even better. If I own a franchise, I want him. Forgot to add that he is a great passer and unselfish.

emanbears24;842293033 said:

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His problem is that he's too slow to be a 3 and not strong enough to be a 4. I love his game, but I just don't see it translating well enough to merit a lottery pick

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He plays point better than most point prospects these days.

emanbears24;842293033 said:

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His problem is that he's too slow to be a 3 and not strong enough to be a 4. I love his game, but I just don't see it translating well enough to merit a lottery pick

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Lucky for him, he'll play the point. He can play for a playoff team. When the game slows down in the playoffs and it becomes a half court game, he'll have value as a big player who can look over guards and deliver the ball where it needs to go. Spurs with Pop.

Best Point Guard in the Pac-12 this year. Hard for me to say it but the guy is clutch. A PG at the next level. He can distribute and score from anywhere. Should have gotten POY over Nick Johnson.

If he plays point guard in the NBA, then he will be a defensive liability. I hope I'm wrong because I really like his game, but I just don't see it

89Bear;842293061 said:

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Lucky for him, he'll play the point. He can play for a playoff team. When the game slows down in the playoffs and it becomes a half court game, he'll have value as a big player who can look over guards and deliver the ball where it needs to go. Spurs with Pop.

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If he goes to a playoff team, then he will definitely be a late first round pick

emanbears24;842293085 said:

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If he plays point guard in the NBA, then he will be a defensive liability. I hope I'm wrong because I really like his game, but I just don't see it

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"As long as Bird is around I will only be the second-worst defensive player in basketball." ~ Charles Barkley
Translation: Kyle's NBA team will make do somehow.

emanbears24;842293085 said:

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If he plays point guard in the NBA, then he will be a defensive liability. I hope I'm wrong because I really like his game, but I just don't see it

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I don't understand? He played PG today but did not defend TJ (Arizona's PG).

emanbears24;842293087 said:

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If he goes to a playoff team, then he will definitely be a late first round pick

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So?????

bearister;842293102 said:

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"As long as Bird is around I will only be the second-worst defensive player in basketball." ~ Charles Barkley
Translation: Kyle's NBA team will make do somehow.

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A humorous, if ignorant quote.

In his younger days in the NBA, Bird made second team all-NBA defense. It was because of Bird's unique ability to slump off his man and close down the paint that the NBA went to the rules about illegal defense.

I love Anderson, and understand and agree with the comparison, except as you have pointed out, he ain't no Bird.

Neither is McDermott.

Go Bears!

89Bear;842293110 said:

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So?????

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If you read my first comment, then you'll see that's where I claimed he would be drafted.

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A humorous, if ignorant quote.

In his younger days in the NBA, Bird made second team all-NBA defense. It was because of Bird's unique ability to slump off his man and close down the paint that the NBA went to the rules about illegal defense.

I love Anderson, and understand and agree with the comparison, except as you have pointed out, he ain't no Bird.

Neither is McDermott.

Go Bears!

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Bird was a good defensive rebounder but otherwise was a defensive liability--just look at Worthy's huge games v. the Celtics over the years or the Celtics struggling v. Dr. J's teams in the playoffs.

Reminds me of Evan Turner. Really good college player, ok NBA player. Anderson is a better passer/ballhandler than Turner but really needs the ball in his hands to be effective. Belongs in the NBA but not in the lottery IMO.

emanbears24;842293085 said:

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If he plays point guard in the NBA, then he will be a defensive liability. I hope I'm wrong because I really like his game, but I just don't see it

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He'll guard the 3 on D

I think his height advantage over pg's would be beneficial if he was more explosive than other teams' 3's. I think there are so many wing players that could guard him that I don't think he creates matchup problems since his team will still need someone else to cover the opposing 1

ilyn;842293242 said:

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I think his height advantage over pg's would be beneficial if he was more explosive than other teams' 3's. I think there are so many wing players that could guard him that I don't think he creates matchup problems since his team will still need someone else to cover the opposing 1

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Basically this

Looperbear;842293133 said:

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Bird was a good defensive rebounder but otherwise was a defensive liability--just look at Worthy's huge games v. the Celtics over the years or the Celtics struggling v. Dr. J's teams in the playoffs.

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I have a video in which Bird describes himself as being a not so good individual defender, but a really good team defender, and Red Auerbach agrees (of course Auerbach would agree, but still). That rings true to me. Having watched Bird live in many games, and on TV many more, he sure seemed important on defense to me. He was always in the right place at the right time, often getting a game changing steal or diving into a scrum for a loose ball, sacrificing his body (and he did, indeed, sacrifice his body).

And I have never bought into the idea the Bird was "slow". He was not a sprinter, perhaps, but he seemed extremely quick with his passes, reactions, and adjustments when shooting, etc. I think it is too simplistic to throw around terms like "fast" or "quick" vs "slow" in the case of basketball. Bird is the poster child for why this is the case.

Bearprof;842293249 said:

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I have a video in which Bird describes himself as being a not so good individual defender, but a really good team defender, and Red Auerbach agrees (of course Auerbach would agree, but still). That rings true to me. Having watched Bird live in many games, and on TV many more, he sure seemed important on defense to me. He was always in the right place at the right time, often getting a game changing steal or diving into a scrum for a loose ball, sacrificing his body (and he did, indeed, sacrifice his body).

And I have never bought into the idea the Bird was "slow". He was not a sprinter, perhaps, but he seemed extremely quick with his passes, reactions, and adjustments when shooting, etc. I think it is too simplistic to throw around terms like "fast" or "quick" vs "slow" in the case of basketball. Bird is the poster child for why this is the case.

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I know what you mean by Bird being a good team defender. He was very good on sliding over and double teams, arms extended. I can still see it now when McHale was in the low block...Bird would slide over and cause a lot of trouble.

As for slow...Magic Johnson was considered slow and had a crappy jumper early on...but being a 6'9" had advantages. I think Anderson can have the same advantage but he has to go to a team that can/will play him at PG, with the right players at 2-5.

Bearprof;842293249 said:

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I have a video in which Bird describes himself as being a not so good individual defender, but a really good team defender, and Red Auerbach agrees (of course Auerbach would agree, but still). That rings true to me. Having watched Bird live in many games, and on TV many more, he sure seemed important on defense to me. He was always in the right place at the right time, often getting a game changing steal or diving into a scrum for a loose ball, sacrificing his body (and he did, indeed, sacrifice his body).

And I have never bought into the idea the Bird was "slow". He was not a sprinter, perhaps, but he seemed extremely quick with his passes, reactions, and adjustments when shooting, etc. I think it is too simplistic to throw around terms like "fast" or "quick" vs "slow" in the case of basketball. Bird is the poster child for why this is the case.

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Bird had the fastest basketball mind I have ever witnessed. On top of that he had amazing shooting skill, both regarding accuracy, but even more mind boggling, in the variety of shots he commanded.

He would be a great fit for the warriors as PG alongside Curry,
and then you have klay or iguadala as the wing -- and Kyle will guard the other team's wing i agree.

I predict he will be picked 11th and will be an every-year all-star starting his third year (unless he goes to a really bad team with nobody to finish his assists).

89Bear;842293061 said:

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Lucky for him, he'll play the point

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LOL. Not happening.

Intermezzo;842293393 said:

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LOL. Not happening.

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All around basketball players with good fundamentals are a rare commodity these days. Kyle will be a test of whether 60's and 70's style players can complete in the modern day NBA with low character, low B ball IQ , super athletes. This old goat says yea and I will be the first to admit I am a lousy judge of talent if he is a bust.

bearister;842293408 said:

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All around basketball players with good fundamentals are a rare commodity these days. Kyle will be a test of whether 60's and 70's style players can complete in the modern day NBA with low character, low B ball IQ , super athletes. This old goat says yea and I will be the first to admit I am a lousy judge of talent if he is a bust.

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I don't think he's a bust at all. I think he's absolutely an NBA player, just like Kevin Love was a hard to place player, but still an NBA player. But the biggest question for him is - who is he going to guard in the NBA where it's very difficult to hide a defender? He certainly isn't going to be guarding NBA guards. He reminds a bit on Antawn Jamison, who had a very unorthodox offensive game, was too short to be an NBA 4, too slow to guard an NBA 3, and got drafted a bit too high because he played at North Carolina.

I think ultimately he becomes a sixth man in the NBA where he matches up against guys that aren't quite as good as the starters and where defensive ability isn't quite as important and does well in that role.

I completely blew it with Kevin Love . I never saw his NBA success coming . It blind sided me.

Intermezzo;842293410 said:

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I don't think he's a bust at all. I think he's absolutely an NBA player, just like Kevin Love was a hard to place player, but still an NBA player. But the biggest question for him is - who is he going to guard in the NBA where it's very difficult to hide a defender? He certainly isn't going to be guarding NBA guards. He reminds a bit on Antawn Jamison, who had a very unorthodox offensive game, was too short to be an NBA 4, too slow to guard an NBA 3, and got drafted a bit too high because he played at North Carolina.

I think ultimately he becomes a sixth man in the NBA where he matches up against guys that aren't quite as good as the starters and where defensive ability isn't quite as important and does well in that role.

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He seems too slow to be an impact player in the NBA.

A much more skilled jared dudley. And Dudley had carved out a nice NBA career for himself.

Bearprof;842293429 said:

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He seems too slow to be an impact player in the NBA.

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The vast majority of NBA talent evaluators agree with you----but then again they are direct descendants of the lads who thought it was a brilliant idea to draft Shawn Bradley 2nd overall pick in the 1993 NBA Draft.

bearister;842293044 said:

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Larry Bird was slow with a 10 inch vertical leap. Give me 6'9 with ball handling skills, a shot, a nose for rebounds, a high b ball IQ, and solid character and I want that player on my team. More than half the players listed above will be NBA footnotes. I called Klay early in college when most here said he sucked and I'm calling Kyle. He a baller.

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Sounds like Adam Morrison?

Larry Bird is my favorite all time player but he had two skills that separated him from Anderson. He was a rugged rebounder and a lights out shooter.

Anderson might be a very good pro, his ball handling and passing skills are special but I worry he's not strong enough nor a good enough shooter to be a great NBA player. I do not think he's a top 10 pick much less top 5. Feels like 12-20 is the range for him.

How much of what he can do in college is because he's not playing against super athletic, bigger and stronger players. I always like to look at his box score against ultra athletic teams filled with future NBA prospects like Arizona.

He had two very good games against them so perhaps that does speak well of his pro prospects, however, McConnell and Johnson are undersized guards (for the NBA).