grats bears..way to finish the game

calbear80;842419511 said:

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Wallace as a PG is not doing it.

PG must have a pass first mentality. Wallace is shoot shoot shoot all the time. The rest of the team looks a little frustrated.

Now tied 22-22.

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Any other basketball theories you care to share?

Sluggo

Outscored the "Pack 39-26 in the second half. That's how you grind it out for the win!

Gotta love these Bears. CM has these guys in every game, playing together, despite people out and foul trouble. This team looks like it can fight, hang in a f'ugly game and then make a run when it's time. Really, really nice to see. Love the attitude.

Cal wins 63-56. Wallace with 29.

Cunzo is tough and the team is channeling his toughness.

We need Bird and Chauca back if we are going to make some noise in Pac-12.

But, 7-1 is beautiful. I love it.

UrsaMajor;842419554 said:

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Under the circumstances, a helluva win. Ty is a man among boys.

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if Wallace can find a way to improve his FTs....PAC12 POY. 2nd time he's carried this team already.

(i was surprised Nevada didn't foul Wallace again late in the game--even when we were in double bonus.)

Nice win, love the way they hung in there. Hope Wallace can shake his yips on the line, but he has turned into quite a baller.

This win and 7-1 just might get Cal ranked.

beeasyed;842419568 said:

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(i was surprised Nevada didn't foul Wallace again late in the game--even when we were in double bonus.)

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That was a BIG coaching error by Nevada. Around 30 seconds to go and one possession game and 1-1. Wallace had just missed the front end of 1-1 and last week had lost SIX FT in a row. Wallace the only reliable ball handler for Cal with Wallace fouled out and Bird and Chauca injured. You got a give yourself a chance.

MinotStateBeav;842419555 said:

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grats bears..way to finish the game

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Good news is the team is closing out games well.

UrsaMajor;842419554 said:

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Ty is a man among boys.

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he missed the front end of a 1 and 1 down the stretch AGAIN.
Would an NBA team take such a poor shooting guard???
Or does he have to prove he can shoot first?
I think he has to prove it, and thus must stay another year to do so.

beeasyed;842419568 said:

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if Wallace can find a way to improve his FTs....PAC12 POY. 2nd time he's carried this team already.

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To me, Wallace is looking like he is planning to leave after this year.

Thanks to Wallace's 29 point, we won, but, it was not easy.

calbear80;842419587 said:

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To me, Wallace is looking like he is planning to leave after this year.

Thanks to Wallace's 29 point, we won, but, it was not easy.

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Europe? Nevada is slated to finish 8th in Mountain West. Don't forget Mr. Wolf's words of wisdom from Pulp Fiction.

beelzebear;842419579 said:

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This win and 7-1 just might get Cal ranked.

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Nevada predicted to finish 8th in Moutain West.

bearister;842419625 said:

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Europe? Nevada is slated to finish 8th in Mountain West. Don't forget Mr. Wolf's words of wisdom from Pulp Fiction.

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People with more knowledge of the NBA who think Wallace is ready can fill me in on his position. In my mind, he needs to either 1) establish himself as a point guard and improve his decision making and distributing or 2) develop his shot (to play the 2). It seems to me developing those two are best done in college, but as I said, people with more specific knowledge can fill me in.

calumnus;842419637 said:

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People with more knowledge of the NBA who think Wallace is ready can fill me in on his position. In my mind, he needs to either 1) establish himself as a point guard and improve his decision making and distributing or 2) develop his shot (to play the 2). It seems to me developing those two are best done in college, but as I said, people with more specific knowledge can fill me in.

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Don't get me wrong. Wallace has the skills and aggression to be a top rate NCAA Div. 1 player. At 6'4/6'5 his current skills don't translate to NBA success. If he was Kravish's size he would be a lock. I also respect his rebounding ability. There is no way he leaves Cal early for the NBA. Not going to happen.

bearister;842419691 said:

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Don't get me wrong. Wallace has the skills and aggression to be a top rate NCAA Div. 1 player. At 6'4/6'5 his current skills don't translate to NBA success. If he was Kravish's size he would be a lock. I also respect his rebounding ability. There is no way he leaves Cal early for the NBA. Not going to happen.

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I think he's quickly getting close to a pretty scary (as in scary-good) NBA PG

beelzebear;842419579 said:

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This win and 7-1 just might get Cal ranked.

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Cal's RPI was 122 coming in to today.

Roger played some solid d today.

Civil Bear;842419712 said:

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Cal's RPI was 122 coming in to today.

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East coast bias!

:rollinglaugh:

Ty was da man!!!! I still want him to improve FT% though.

Well the current RPI rankings have a 4-2 Wisconsin Green Bay team as the #1 team in the nation. Safe to day the RPIs mean nothing right about now....unless maybe if you're a Buffalo fan. They're sitting pretty at 15. Still unfortunate to see us behind a 1-0 Incarnate Word team at 84 though.

dal9;842419708 said:

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I think he's quickly getting close to a pretty scary (as in scary-good) NBA PG

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I'm with Bearister. He's got to be able to establish a consistent shot, both from FT and perimeter set-shot/jumper. He's making his money right now for Cal by driving, and looks great that way. But let's just see the basic shooting skills before we consider the NBA. In the NBA, he's gonna have Dikembe Mutombo wagging his finger at him in the paint. And guards and SF's that are bigger and can defend stronger.
But no doubt, he's been lighting it up lately.
I think he's going to be given this message in April, and spend the entire summer desperately improving his J before his senior year.

There are hundreds of quality ball players EVERY year that are on the fence. He's got a lot of competition with the elite to make it.
Here's rooting for Tyrone!

PS: Allen Crabbe and Jorge Gutierrez proved me wrong. Jerome Randle, Ryan Anderson did not.

PPS: Tyrone is a tweener for the style of his play. Not PG/SG skilled enough, per above. Not big enough to be a slashing PF.

Wallace's per a game AVERAGE after nine games:

19 Points (FG .500+, 3 Pointers .440+).
9 Rebounds
4.6 Assists a game

He leads the team in points, rebounds and assists. Those are pretty attractive numbers.

concordtom;842419749 said:

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I'm with Bearister. He's got to be able to establish a consistent shot, both from FT and perimeter set-shot/jumper. He's making his money right now for Cal by driving, and looks great that way. But let's just see the basic shooting skills before we consider the NBA. In the NBA, he's gonna have Dikembe Mutombo wagging his finger at him in the paint. And guards and SF's that are bigger and can defend stronger.
But no doubt, he's been lighting it up lately.
I think he's going to be given this message in April, and spend the entire summer desperately improving his J before his senior year.

There are hundreds of quality ball players EVERY year that are on the fence. He's got a lot of competition with the elite to make it.
Here's rooting for Tyrone!

PS: Allen Crabbe and Jorge Gutierrez proved me wrong. Jerome Randle, Ryan Anderson did not.

PPS: Tyrone is a tweener for the style of his play. Not PG/SG skilled enough, per above. Not big enough to be a slashing PF.

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You guys are so wrong. Is he going to leave after this year? Maybe, maybe not. But he's a draftable NBA talent through and through. Combo guards are really in vogue right now -especially ones that can handle, penetrate, with good size that can rebound and project to be a + defender. To the poster that said if he was Kravish's height he'd a "lock", if he was Kravish's height he would be a top 3 pick.

Ryan Anderson didn't prove you wrong? You mean Ryan Anderson that 2 years ago before his injury averaged 20 ppg?

concordtom;842419586 said:

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he missed the front end of a 1 and 1 down the stretch AGAIN.
Would an NBA team take such a poor shooting guard???
Or does he have to prove he can shoot first?
I think he has to prove it, and thus must stay another year to do so.

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Are you serious with this post? That's your response?

Wallace is hitting 50% from the field and 43% from three point land. Sure, the sub 60% mark from the line meeds to be improved but given his other shutting stats, I do t know how you can say he's not a good shooter.

And how about TW's overall improvement from last year. From 11 ppg to 18ppg. From 4 boards per game to NINE. And from 3 assists to 5. That's pretty remarkable. I'll worry about the NBA later and just enjoy what a great player he's turned into.

TheSouseFamily;842419739 said:

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Well the current RPI rankings have a 4-2 Wisconsin Green Bay team as the #1 team in the nation. Safe to day the RPIs mean nothing right about now....unless maybe if you're a Buffalo fan. They're sitting pretty at 15. Still unfortunate to see us behind a 1-0 Incarnate Word team at 84 though.

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The point was to provide some perspective on Cal's chances of getting ranked in the top 25 after today's win per beelzebear's assertion. I doubt it has ever come close to happening to a team with an RPI over 100, regardless of the point in the season.

is there a replay of the game we can watch somewhere? I have directtv so the Pac12 network is off limits to me. thanks in advance for any help if it's available

Go Bears

concernedparent;842419786 said:

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Ryan Anderson didn't prove you wrong? You mean Ryan Anderson that 2 years ago before his injury averaged 20 ppg?

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Didn't I type that Anderson proved me right?
I thought he'd do well in the NBA and he has! It was smart to leave early, didn't think he'd stick around for Monty and he didn't and he's doing great!

TheSouseFamily;842419806 said:

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Wallace is hitting 50% from the field and 43% from three point land. Sure, the sub 60% mark from the line meeds to be improved but given his other shutting stats, I do t know how you can say he's not a good shooter.

And how about TW's overall improvement from last year. From 11 ppg to 18ppg. From 4 boards per game to NINE. And from 3 assists to 5. That's pretty remarkable. I'll worry about the NBA later and just enjoy what a great player he's turned into.

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50% overall doesn't excite me so much because he is getting many on layups, impressive as they are(!) that will not be available vs. the big boys. But 43% from 3 will shut me up fast!
Get FT's to 75% and I'll shut up twice!

SFBearz;842419789 said:

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Are you serious with this post? That's your response?

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He had a great game!
I was breaking off to a tangential question that has been kicked around on this board.
Sorry.

concordtom;842420024 said:

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Didn't I type that Anderson proved me right?
I thought he'd do well in the NBA and he has! It was smart to leave early, didn't think he'd stick around for Monty and he didn't and he's doing great!

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You wrote that Crabbe and Gut proved you wrong, and that Randle and Anderson proved you right. Wrong about what? Right about what? It wasn't exactly clear from the context.