sycasey;842496774 said:

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Every team complains after every call; this is the NBA. To my eyes the Warriors don't seem particularly more demonstrative about this than any other team (the Clippers definitely are).

I simply noticed a very different slant in this game from the rest of the series. It's not too unusual to see this when the home team is trying to extend a series either.

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That is bs not every team complains after every call. And it is not just the complaining, it is how the demonstrative they are when they complain. If every team complained after every call then it wouldn't only be the Clippers that have that reputation.

btsktr;842496777 said:

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That is bs not every team complains after every call. And it is not just the complaining, it is how the demonstrative they are when they complain. If every team complained after every call then it wouldn't only be the Clippers that have that reputation.

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Haven't been watching basketball long?

bearister;842496736 said:

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The balance of your posts more than make up for it.

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Sorry, Sensy Sally.

sycasey;842496781 said:

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Haven't been watching basketball long?

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No I have been watching basketball for as long I can remember. And I watch a lot of it too. I have watched at least a half of every postseason game that has played this year.

And the Clippers have the reputation as the biggest whiners in the NBA. I remember Doc being interviewed after the game when the refs called the 3 shot foul on his son. He said something to the effect of "I'm not making excuses but the refs were awful tonight". And he got killed for that because he obviously was complaining about the refs and is known for whining during games. I think he even mentioned before this year that they needed to focus on complaining less.

And the difference I have noticed with the Warriors this year is that after almost every foul call, they throw up the hands and seem to be more demonstrative.

ducky23;842496237 said:

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........Is it actually possible that the dubs could face Houston? Houston???? Is God that giving?

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I am soooo rooting for Houston in Game 7 vs. the Clips. Much easier matchup for the GSW.

BGGB2;842496818 said:

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I am soooo rooting for Houston in Game 7 vs. the Clips. Much easier matchup for the GSW.

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Where was the self proclaimed MVP during the Rockets run to overtake the Clips?????? that's right... on the bench...

Who had a -21 plus/minus in a 12 point win?

Who was 25% from floor to help create the 19 point deficit?


go GSW
:gobears:

btsktr;842496805 said:

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And the difference I have noticed with the Warriors this year is that after almost every foul call, they throw up the hands and seem to be more demonstrative.

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Do not see it at all, sorry. Plenty of teams are as demonstrative as the Warriors or more so.

sycasey;842496861 said:

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Do not see it at all, sorry. Plenty of teams are as demonstrative as the Warriors or more so.

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The Grizzlies shot 29 free throws to the W's 5 at the end of three quarters. Maybe the W's were throwing up their hands in frustration because of the obvious disparity in calls favoring Memphis.

I love how the there's been a complete shift of power in the nba.

Celtics, Knicks, Lakers can enjoy the lottery.

Perennial doormats like the clips, Warriors, Atlanta, and Cleveland all have bright futures.

I think this is good for the nba. Although the Nba would probably disagree.

jyamada;842496869 said:

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The Grizzlies shot 29 free throws to the W's 5 at the end of three quarters. Maybe the W's were throwing up their hands in frustration because of the obvious disparity in calls favoring Memphis.

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There has only been one team that I have ever seen get hosed by the officials in the playoffs. And that is the 03 Kings vs the Lakers

ducky23;842496901 said:

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I love how the there's been a complete shift of power in the nba.

Celtics, Knicks, Lakers can enjoy the lottery.

Perennial doormats like the clips, Warriors, Atlanta, and Cleveland all have bright futures.

I think this is good for the nba. Although the Nba would probably disagree.

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They probably don't mind the Clippers and Warriors getting good. Those are big markets with lots of money.

sycasey;842496918 said:

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They probably don't mind the Clippers and Warriors getting good. Those are big markets with lots of money.

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The Clippers were for years just Donald Sterling's means of boosting his public profile and then making steady income. Even with the salary cap, they were always at the bottom of NBA salaries.

As for the rest of the discussion, the salary cap is actually quite an equalizer. Over the years it's allowed teams in relatively small markets to do well, including the Jazz and Kings. However, the one thing that big market teams have going for them is the outside income from endorsements. A player might be more valuable to Nike or Adidas playing in New York instead of Phoenix. The Lakers have been able to attract free agents like Shaq and Dwight Howard over the years.

sycasey;842496918 said:

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They probably don't mind the Clippers and Warriors getting good. Those are big markets with lots of money.

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The dubs being good is defineyeky good for the nba, especially after they move to the city. The dubs are also extremely popular in Asia because of the Bay Area connection.

Although the clips are in a big market, they kind of remind me of the A's. How many clips fans actually exist? Much better for the Nba if the lakers become good again. Don't see that happening though anytime soon.

jyamada;842496869 said:

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The Grizzlies shot 29 free throws to the W's 5 at the end of three quarters. Maybe the W's were throwing up their hands in frustration because of the obvious disparity in calls favoring Memphis.

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Watching the Warriors this season, to me it looks like they do not shoot many free throws when playing well. They are so good at moving without the ball and making the extra pass, that when they are running the offense well they often get uncontested looks at the basket.

ducky23;842496932 said:

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The dubs being good is defineyeky good for the nba, especially after they move to the city. The dubs are also extremely popular in Asia because of the Bay Area connection.

Although the clips are in a big market, they kind of remind me of the A's. How many clips fans actually exist? Much better for the Nba if the lakers become good again. Don't see that happening though anytime soon.

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The Clippers just tagged along when Staples Center was built. They've been consistently selling well because of where they're playing. This year they've actually had better attendance numbers than the Lakers. Everyone loves to be a frontrunner. I can see that now with how many people seem to be Giants fans.

ducky23;842496932 said:

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The dubs being good is defineyeky good for the nba, especially after they move to the city. ......

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btsktr;842496945 said:

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Watching the Warriors this season, to me it looks like they do not shoot many free throws when playing well. They are so good at moving without the ball and making the extra pass, that when they are running the offense well they often get uncontested looks at the basket.

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You bring up a good point. I still think Curry doesn't get a lot calls though.....hopefully this changes with him being crowned MVP. He should get more respect from the refs now.

jyamada;842497112 said:

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You bring up a good point. I still think Curry doesn't get a lot calls though.....hopefully this changes with him being crowned MVP. He should get more respect from the refs now.

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TBH though, Curry isn't really a driver to begin with. He doesn't use the dribble that way. He also has a tendency to shy away from contact instead of seeking it, like harden, who's a master of it.

tsubamoto2001;842497120 said:

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TBH though, Curry isn't really a driver to begin with. He doesn't use the dribble that way. He also has a tendency to shy away from contact instead of seeking it, like harden, who's a master of it.

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Harden is also trying to sell the foul, and will flail his arms and snap his head back. So he's giving up any pretense that he's trying to make the shot, he's severely reducing the likelihood of making the shot, and he's in a bad position to defend if he doesn't get the foul call. He'll even go straight into a defender rather than move into a position to get a better shot off.

Even when Curry is trying to sell a foul on contact, he will also try to keep his feet in position to defend if he misses - especially on 3s. Misses often result in long rebounds with fast break opportunities.

What I see is that Curry is trying to play basketball, while Harden is trying to get into a free throw shooting contest.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/sports/basketball/rockets-james-harden-bolsters-scoring-with-foul-shots.html?_r=0

BearClause;842497146 said:

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Harden is also trying to sell the foul, and will flail his arms and snap his head back. So he's giving up any pretense that he's trying to make the shot, he's severely reducing the likelihood of making the shot, and he's in a bad position to defend if he doesn't get the foul call. He'll even go straight into a defender rather than move into a position to get a better shot off.

Even when Curry is trying to sell a foul on contact, he will also try to keep his feet in position to defend if he misses - especially on 3s. Misses often result in long rebounds with fast break opportunities.

What I see is that Curry is trying to play basketball, while Harden is trying to get into a free throw shooting contest.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/sports/basketball/rockets-james-harden-bolsters-scoring-with-foul-shots.html?_r=0

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I actually agree with you. I'd much rather watch Steph play. He's the single most fun guy to watch in the game right now. I find the Rockets unwatchable at times because of Harden's propensity to go to the line and look for foul calls. It's like watching Floyd Mayweather fight--it efficient and gets the job done, but it's boring as heck.

hmm k

Warriors are 12 mins from the nba finals!

Yay

ducky23;842497186 said:

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Warriors are 12 mins from the nba finals!

Yay

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Hah, man, you are awfully confident.

grandmastapoop;842497190 said:

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Hah, man, you are awfully confident.

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I can see why. The Warriors went 4-0 against the Rockets in the regular season, and none of the games were close. Granted, some of those were when Howard and/or Harden were out, but still -- they never gave the W's much of a challenge. New Orleans and Memphis both played Golden State tougher in the regular season.

They seem to have found a better team concept in these last few games against the Clippers (though hard to say how much is them getting better or the Clips simply wearing down and/or choking), but it's still hard for me to see them taking four games against the Dubs.

sycasey;842497204 said:

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I can see why. The Warriors went 4-0 against the Rockets in the regular season, and none of the games were close. Granted, some of those were when Howard and/or Harden were out, but still -- they never gave the W's much of a challenge. New Orleans and Memphis both played Golden State tougher in the regular season.

They seem to have found a better team concept in these last few games against the Clippers (though hard to say how much is them getting better or the Clips simply wearing down and/or choking), but it's still hard for me to see them taking four games against the Dubs.

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I am well aware of all of that. I still think his statement was over the top confident. Sports are weird and weird things can and do happen.

grandmastapoop;842497209 said:

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I am well aware of all of that. I still think his statement was over the top confident. Sports are weird and weird things can and do happen.

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It's true. You never know, someone could get hurt or something. Josh Smith could continue to hit step-back three-pointers.

grandmastapoop;842497209 said:

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I am well aware of all of that. I still think his statement was over the top confident. Sports are weird and weird things can and do happen.

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We can go matchup thru matchup to show how the Warriors have the advantage, but it's unbeccessary.

The only thing you need to look at is this;

Klay defends harden better than anyone in the league.

Jason terry guarding curry.

If someone can explain how terry is going to guard curry then I'll give you a medal.

And before you say 'oh put ariza on curry'. That makes the match ups even worse. Then you have harden on klay (klay will torch him) and then terry on Barnes? And I'm not even convinced ariza can stay with curry.

It's just an awful awful matchup for Houston.

Oh btw. Where's that dmitrig character at. I have a question.

What four teams lead the league in 3 pointers attempted?

I'll just answer my own question.

Golden state, Houston, Cleveland, Atlanta

ducky23;842497225 said:

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Oh btw. Where's that dmitrig character at. I have a question.

What four teams lead the league in 3 pointers attempted?

I'll just answer my own question.

Golden state, Houston, Cleveland, Atlanta

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You should include Phil Jackson in this call-out, too. He was talking junk not too long ago on Twitter.

ducky23;842497216 said:

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We can go matchup thru matchup to show how the Warriors have the advantage, but it's unbeccessary.

The only thing you need to look at is this;

Klay defends harden better than anyone in the league.

Jason terry guarding curry.

If someone can explain how terry is going to guard curry then I'll give you a medal.

And before you say 'oh put ariza on curry'. That makes the match ups even worse. Then you have harden on klay (klay will torch him) and then terry on Barnes? And I'm not even convinced ariza can stay with curry.

It's just an awful awful matchup for Houston.

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Maybe they can find the crew from Star Trek time traveling to our time and bringing their medical technology to allow them to heal injuries in minutes. I guess that's the only way Patrick Beverley comes in to play. But to be fair, they would also use that technology to heal all the minor undisclosed injuries that the Warriors have and they'd be even.

grandmastapoop;842497190 said:

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Hah, man, you are awfully confident.

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Vegas is awfully confident as well. Betting $1,100 on the Warriors to win the series will win you $100 net. Betting $100 on the Rockets will net you $700.

ducky23;842496237 said:

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.......Is it actually possible that the dubs could face Houston? Houston???? Is God that giving?

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Yes He is. Thank you, Lord!!! :p

ducky23;842497225 said:

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......What four teams lead the league in 3 pointers attempted?

I'll just answer my own question.

Golden state, Houston, Cleveland, Atlanta

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Close. But according to this source, it was GS, Houston, Cleveland, and Portland. Atlanta is tied for 5th (with the LAC), so your point is made.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-pointers-attempted-per-game

BGGB2;842497347 said:

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Close. But according to this source, it was GS, Houston, Cleveland, and Portland. Atlanta is tied for 5th (with the LAC), so your point is made.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-pointers-attempted-per-game

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And ESPN even disagrees with that:

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/offense-per-game/sort/avgThreePointFieldGoalsAttempted/seasontype/2

1. Houston, 2. Cleveland, 3. Portland, 4. GS, 5. LAC, 6. Philly, 7. Atlanta.

Nonetheless - the point remains - taking 3's is smart.