http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi
"The Basketball Power Index (BPI) is a team rating system that accounts for the final score, pace of play, site, strength of opponent and absence of key players in every Division I men's game."

85.0 Arizona (#16)
81.0 Oregon (#24)
81.0 USC (#25)
79.2 California (#30)
76.3 Colorado (#46)
74.2 Utah (#53)
73.0 Arizona St. (#58)
72.2 UCLA (#61)
72.1 Stanford (#63)
71.1 Oregon St. (#70)
70.9 Washington (#73)
57.5 Washington St. (#140)

A top 4 finish in the conference is a reasonable goal. A first round bye in the conference tournament would be nice.


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/page/1/sort/RPI
RPI is the main tool used by the NCAA tournament selection committee and its primitive methodology is favoring the Pac-12 this year.

#7 Oregon (8-1 vs. top 50)
#17 USC (5-3)
#23 Colorado (2-4)
#24 Utah (3-5)
#26 Arizona (2-3)
#44 UCLA (3-4)
#47 Stanford (2-7)
#48 California (4-3)
#49 Arizona St. (1-5)
#52 Washington (5-2)
#57 Oregon St. (2-6)
#150 Washington St. (1-5)

Historically, a top 50 RPI with one or two "quality wins" is good enough to make the tournament. As crazy as it sounds, getting 10 Pac-12 teams into the NCAA tournament is a real possibility at this point.

R90;842638497 said:

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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi
"The Basketball Power Index (BPI) is a team rating system that accounts for the final score, pace of play, site, strength of opponent and absence of key players in every Division I men's game."

85.0 Arizona (#16)
81.0 Oregon (#24)
81.0 USC (#25)
79.2 California (#30)
76.3 Colorado (#46)
74.2 Utah (#53)
73.0 Arizona St. (#58)
72.2 UCLA (#61)
72.1 Stanford (#63)
71.1 Oregon St. (#70)
70.9 Washington (#73)
57.5 Washington St. (#140)

A top 4 finish in the conference is a reasonable goal. A first round bye in the conference tournament would be nice.


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/page/1/sort/RPI
RPI is the main tool used by the NCAA tournament selection committee and its primitive methodology is favoring the Pac-12 this year.

#7 Oregon (8-1 vs. top 50)
#17 USC (5-3)
#23 Colorado (2-4)
#24 Utah (3-5)
#26 Arizona (2-3)
#44 UCLA (3-4)
#47 Stanford (2-7)
#48 California (4-3)
#49 Arizona St. (1-5)
#52 Washington (5-2)
#57 Oregon St. (2-6)
#150 Washington St. (1-5)

Historically, a top 50 RPI with one or two "quality wins" is good enough to make the tournament. As crazy as it sounds, getting 10 Pac-12 teams into the NCAA tournament is a real possibility at this point.

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That #48 rpi is pre-Arizona victory. Cal is now #37 (approx, depending on the site).

Updated RPI according to realtimerpi.com

5 Oregon
16 Utah
23 Colorado
24 USC
29 Arizona
37 California
45 Oregon St.
52 Stanford
53 UCLA
71 Arizona St.
73 Washington
167 Washington St.

p.s. - Nice to see East Carolina get a road victory at Memphis yesterday.

the only 'bad' loss is WSU, but they are a tough out
every game is a battle, especially on the road

HoopDreams;842638536 said:

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the only 'bad' loss is WSU, but they are a tough out
every game is a battle, especially on the road

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Except we haven't lost to WSU yet. Wow, and I thought _I_ was the debbie downer sometimes ;-)

socaltownie;842638538 said:

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Except we haven't lost to WSU yet. Wow, and I thought _I_ was the debbie downer sometimes ;-)

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HD is not saying that we have, but rather he is being more general, saying losing to WSU is bad for any good Pac-12 team.

I hope I'm wrong, but fantasizing about 8 or 10 P12 teams making the tournament ignores the massive east coast bias that exists in college sports imo. If the Pac "deserves" 6 we will probably get 6. But if it's 8 ... we get 6. And if it's 10? 6 again. Pundits will be tripping over themselves to explain why traditional metrics like RPI "don't reveal the full picture" this season. Just wait.

OldBlue1999;842638548 said:

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I hope I'm wrong, but fantasizing about 8 or 10 P12 teams making the tournament ignores the massive east coast bias that exists in college sports imo. If the Pac "deserves" 6 we will probably get 6. But if it's 8 ... we get 6. And if it's 10? 6 again. Pundits will be tripping over themselves to explain why traditional metrics like RPI "don't reveal the full picture" this season. Just wait.

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This really isn't how it works anymore. The committee leans pretty heavily towards RPI these days. In 2013 they put in 5 Pac-12 teams and 5 Mountain West teams (!). No East Coast bias there. They got in because the RPI numbers were there.

We'll see. I hope you're right. I think there's a big difference between 5 teams from a single conference and 8 or 10 in terms of "sticker shock" for lack of a better term.

OldBlue1999;842638571 said:

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We'll see. I hope you're right. I think there's a big difference between 5 teams from a single conference and 8 or 10 in terms of "sticker shock" for lack of a better term.

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If that's what happens, then it's more a "conference overload" bias than an "east coast bias." But again, I don't think that's how the committee works these days. They don't pay much attention to conference affiliation.

Didn't the B1G get a bunch of teams in a few years ago? Anyways all hypothetical at this point, hopefully it won't become an issue.

2011 Big East set a new record for the most teams by one conference (seed):


[LIST=1]

Pittsburgh (1)

Notre Dame (2)

Connecticut (3)

Syracuse (3)

Louisville (4)

West Virginia (5)

St. John's (6)

Cincinnati (6)

Georgetown (6)

Villanova (9)

Marquette (11)



If the Pac12 gets in 10 teams, they certainly won't have as high a seeds. I think that is where the East Coast bias will be felt most prominently.