MoragaBear;842672904 said:

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Wiaf's obviously offering a contrary opinion with inside knowledge.

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If it's so obvious, are you being redundant, condescending or both?

MoragaBear;842672920 said:

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That's an exaggeration, to say the least.

There's a big gulf between those that think he'll quite likely start and be better than people think vs those that think he's a limited minutes backup.

I've seen exactly zero people hype him as an all-conference caliber player.

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+1. ALL our guards need to do is....

Penetrate and dish
Keep teams honest by forcing a man to guard them out top.

They don't need to be all conference with the weapons we have.

BTW - who else is getting happy every day that passes and we don't see an announcement from our Frosh. <Raises hand>

socaltownie;842672932 said:

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BTW - who else is getting happy every day that passes and we don't see an announcement from our Frosh. <Raises hand>

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the rules state that if you declare and go get an evaluation, including the tryout camp and what not, and you decide to return to college, you can do it again and again. That's new for this year. Therefore, why not do that each and every year?!

you should anticipate them declaring, bird and mathews too, I would think, and then if you want to be a complete bear fan, wait until the last-day-to-withdraw-your-name date, and see if they do indeed withdraw from the draft and return to Cal.

Is Martin's contract close to being finalized?

socaltownie;842672932 said:

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+1. ALL our guards need to do is....

Penetrate and dish
Keep teams honest by forcing a man to guard them out top.

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And play defense.

MoragaBear;842672920 said:

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That's an exaggeration, to say the least.

There's a big gulf between those that think he'll quite likely start and be better than people think vs those that think he's a limited minutes backup.

I've seen exactly zero people hype him as an all-conference caliber player.

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I think the SC guards, Holder and Allen get the mentions for all conference. I don't think anyone outside Cal even knows about Coleman.

MoragaBear;842672956 said:

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He was talking about people here supposedly touting him that way

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Oh, got it. Yea, the coaching staff didn't say he was the a lll conference. Just that they are expecting him to surprise and play a lot.

wifeisafurd;842672958 said:

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Oh, got it. Yea, the coaching staff didn't say he was the a lll conference. Just that they are expecting him to surprise and play a lot.

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Ivan had said in an interview that roman davis was going to be real good, with raised eyebrows and eyes wide open, like upside surprise.
Did the people/person you speak to add anything here?

MoragaBear;842672920 said:

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I've seen exactly zero people hype him as an all-conference caliber player.

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And how many have you seen say he will be a limited minutes backup guy?

For the record, I've seen one poster in this thread compare him to all-conference level players.

CC Cajon isn't looking, so I'm gonna place my bets here: Coleman starts by Jan 1. and thru Pac12 conference play.

MoragaBear;842673217 said:

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There's a lot more than that, too. So obviously plenty view him that way.

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Have you seen him play? How would you come to an opinion that he's a "likely starter"?

Those are pretty funny comments, all of us.
We haven't seen him play yet, so we are once again talking out of one side of our collective brain.
Anyways, ya know what I'm really forward to?
Hearing about how the kids from the south likes it out west.
The west is the best, you know! His mind will EXPLODE! (Never mind my personal bias.)

MoragaBear;842673234 said:

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Have you seen him play? How would you come to the opinion that his upside might be somewhat better than a major bust like Emerson?

Eventually starting over Singer next season's not exactly a super high bar.

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There's footage of him playing on YouTube. I wish I had those 30+ minutes of my life back as it was a bad JC game.

And how exactly was Emerson a bust? The guy was a late-signing period reach. He turned out exactly the way he was supposed to. He actually looked better in his film than Coleman does, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

Eventually starting over Singer is a high bar for Coleman, a lightly recruited player, considering Singer will be a senior and is a pretty good player that has starting experience and played well when he actually got a chance to run the show. And according to Martin, he should have been an All Defense this past season. There's no logic, based on the information that's out there, that supports Coleman supplanting Singer as the starter. Maybe you're right and Coleman surprises.

MoragaBear;842673217 said:

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There's a lot more than that, too. So obviously plenty view him that way.

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Ah, I took limited minutes backup guy to mean more limited than a backup guy. Yes, lots of posters are predicting he will back up Singer next year. To me there is no slight in that. I count one poster that rated Coleman less than that.

Happy B-Day to Coleman ...

MoragaBear;842673263 said:

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No, no slight in thinking he'll back up a senior Singer. No one knows what will happen for certain. I just think some are underselling him to a decent extreme.

There are plenty of guys that have played for Cal in recent years or currently that those close to the program didn't project to start but Coleman's not one of them, for the most part.

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Justin Cobbs averaged only 2.1 ppg as a frosh at Minnesota.
He was a starter to great effect at Cal.

BearBackerinLA;842674730 said:

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He'll be just fine at Cal.

NYCGOBEARS;842674750 said:

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He'll be just fine at Cal.

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I totally like this kid already.

When I saw this tweet, I knew... I agree, he seems like a cool kid.

Except it was Kam

BluesandGold2;842675282 said:

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Except it was Kam

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Exactly!!!

concordtom;842675285 said:

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Exactly!!!

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+1 Nice to see Kam make the pass to put it right where the shooter needs it. #everystepmatters