OaktownBear;842843837 said:

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Geez

Now THAT is over sensitive. No one talked about banning you or punishing you or being offended. You expressed a strong opinion and got strong opinions in response. I'm sorry if that offends you.

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Nothing you said offended me in the least OTB. MB seemed truly offended, which I find funny since there are certain posters that ARE offensive and get a free pass.

Just trying to explain that I'm not trashing the retro look, just think UA phoned it in on the gimmicky 'Sather Stripe.'

NewYorkCityBear;842843850 said:

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Nothing you said offended me in the least OTB. MB seemed truly offended, which I find funny since there are certain posters that ARE offensive and get a free pass.

Just trying to explain that I'm not trashing the retro look, just think UA phoned it in on the gimmicky 'Sather Stripe.'

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The Sather Stripe is an improvement on the Sandy Slash (I'm talking about those awful irregular stripes on the football uniform, you degenerates).

MoragaBear;842843853 said:

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Truly offended? Yet again, no.

Don't mistake your outrage at my observations for deep offense taken by me.

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I save my 'outrage' for more important things (and there are plenty of things to feel outraged about these days).

Peace MB.

NYCGOBEARS;842843854 said:

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The Sather Stripe is an improvement on the Sandy Slash (I'm talking about those awful irregular stripes on the football uniform, you degenerates).

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At least Nike didn't try to justify those slashes with a long treatise explaining that they were symbolic of 'the irregularity of the Cal experience, and the jagged edges of the slash are meant to evoke the sharp stick with which Cal fans often wish to poke themselves in the eyes.'

At first, I didn't like the stripes but after reading the Sather Stripe story and looking at the Campanile in new light, I think it's unique and I like it. Am I the only one who never thought of the Campanile as Sather Tower?

Calfans;842843870 said:

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At first, I didn't like the stripes but after reading the Sather Stripe story and looking at the Campanile in new light, I think it's unique and I like it. Am I the only one who never thought of the Campanile as Sather Tower?

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It will always be the World's largest Mickey Mouse watch to me since I was a Junior when this happened.
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stu;842843727 said:

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Then it must be time to turn this thread to politics.

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OK; I'll take you up on that, by defending the Monkees, whose relatively prolific output contained a lot of actually interesting music - decent quality hits; and I remember especially a song (and a really good one) that was actually in 7/8 meter (and, with the total aesthetic of which - including the lyrics and the melody, the odd meter actually made aesthetic and emotional sense - kind of expressing an intentionally uncomfortable, not terribly happy, emotion -- NB: Of course County Music does that all the time, e.g., She stomped on my heart, and she mashed that sucker, flat) - an adventurism that hasn't even now been attempted in pop music. So, from a pop culture perspective, you could say that the Stones were, culturally, more cutting edge (for white people), and the Monkees more (unapologetically) "commercial", and therefore say that, in relation to the Stones, the Monkees were "lame"; but, from a more cosmic perspective, one could say the same thing about the Stones in relation to Bo Diddly, and Howlin' Wolf, and Muddy Waters, and Robert Johnson, and Sonny Boy Williamson, and Lightnin' Hopkins, Son House, BB King, etc., etc., etc., etc.

NewYorkCityBear;842843863 said:

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I save my 'outrage' for more important things (and there are plenty of things to feel outraged about these days).

Peace MB.

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Covfefe, NYCB.

mikecohen;842843884 said:

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OK; I'll take you up on that, by defending the Monkees, whose relatively prolific output contained a lot of actually interesting music - decent quality hits; and I remember especially a song (and a really good one) that was actually in 7/8 meter (and, with the total aesthetic of which - including the lyrics and the melody, the odd meter actually made aesthetic and emotional sense - kind of expressing an intentionally uncomfortable, not terribly happy, emotion -- NB: Of course County Music does that all the time, e.g., She stomped on my heart, and she mashed that sucker, flat) - an adventurism that hasn't even now been attempted in pop music. So, from a pop culture perspective, you could say that the Stones were, culturally, more cutting edge (for white people), and the Monkees more (unapologetically) "commercial", and therefore say that, in relation to the Stones, the Monkees were "lame"; but, from a more cosmic perspective, one could say the same thing about the Stones in relation to Bo Diddly, and Howlin' Wolf, and Muddy Waters, and Robert Johnson, and Sonny Boy Williamson, and Lightnin' Hopkins, Son House, BB King, etc., etc., etc., etc.

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If the Monkees actually played any of their music maybe they wouldn't be lame. After all, they were the young generation and they had something to say. And that curse of the monkey's paw episode was real creepy. Almost as creepy as Davey Jones on the Brady Bunch

mikecohen;842843884 said:

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OK; I'll take you up on that, by defending the Monkees, whose relatively prolific output contained a lot of actually interesting music - decent quality hits; and I remember especially a song (and a really good one) that was actually in 7/8 meter (and, with the total aesthetic of which - including the lyrics and the melody, the odd meter actually made aesthetic and emotional sense - kind of expressing an intentionally uncomfortable, not terribly happy, emotion -- NB: Of course County Music does that all the time, e.g., She stomped on my heart, and she mashed that sucker, flat) - an adventurism that hasn't even now been attempted in pop music. So, from a pop culture perspective, you could say that the Stones were, culturally, more cutting edge (for white people), and the Monkees more (unapologetically) "commercial", and therefore say that, in relation to the Stones, the Monkees were "lame"; but, from a more cosmic perspective, one could say the same thing about the Stones in relation to Bo Diddly, and Howlin' Wolf, and Muddy Waters, and Robert Johnson, and Sonny Boy Williamson, and Lightnin' Hopkins, Son House, BB King, etc., etc., etc., etc.

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Exactly.

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OaktownBear;842843939 said:

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If the Monkees actually played any of their music maybe they wouldn't be lame. After all, they were the young generation and they had something to say. And that curse of the monkey's paw episode was real creepy. Almost as creepy as Davey Jones on the Brady Bunch

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Actually, they did play their music - especially that 7/8 tune -- but, really, most of it, and all of it after the first season -- and Nesmith went on to pioneer music videos -- Check out his, I think, first, called RIO -- It works, even now, even with its obvious innocence

NYCGOBEARS;842843854 said:

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The Sather Stripe is an improvement on the Sandy Slash (I'm talking about those awful irregular stripes on the football uniform, you degenerates).

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Count me among the low brows who like the new Sather Stripe. It would be great if used vertically on the sides (armpit to hem) of the jerseys for basketball and football or along the pants; it will be terrible if it runs front to back on the football helmets.

For the record, I always hated the bizarre skinny fonts with two shop corners and two rounded corners. It looked silly and was difficult to read. I also couldn't stand the horrible bear logo (a rip off from UCR) and the bizarre stripes of the Sandy era. Good riddance to her and to Nike.