NewYorkCityBear said:He's making the Lakes look like fools for selecting Ingram over him.EricBear said:
I did, too.NewYorkCityBear said:Danny Ainge clearly did.bearister said:NewYorkCityBear said:He's making the Lakes look like fools for selecting Ingram over him.EricBear said:
Cuonzo didn't exactly coach him up and showcase his talent. Very few people who watched every one of JB's games for Cal saw this coming.
Right. Jaylen was generally considered a top-5 pick, so many did see this as a possibility.NewYorkCityBear said:Danny Ainge clearly did.bearister said:NewYorkCityBear said:He's making the Lakes look like fools for selecting Ingram over him.EricBear said:
Cuonzo didn't exactly coach him up and showcase his talent. Very few people who watched every one of JB's games for Cal saw this coming.
bearister said:concordtom said:I wonder what's going on with their FT%.EricBear said:
It's mental, and maybe the staff has found the predatory remedy.
Too bad guys like wilt and Shaq never overcame.
With regard to Shaq and Wilt, try shooting a FT with a softball. That is how small the ball felt in their hands.
Darn. I can't +1 a staff comment. Consider it done.EricBear said:Right. Jaylen was generally considered a top-5 pick, so many did see this as a possibility.NewYorkCityBear said:Danny Ainge clearly did.bearister said:NewYorkCityBear said:He's making the Lakes look like fools for selecting Ingram over him.EricBear said:
Cuonzo didn't exactly coach him up and showcase his talent. Very few people who watched every one of JB's games for Cal saw this coming.
The analytics were poor on him - FT%, 3FG%, turnovers, etc. It was difficult for many to reconcile what they saw (elite athleticism, top-end competitiveness, certain plays only the best can make) with the analytics. A couple months after the draft I had about a 45 minute conversation with the leadership of Second Spectrum (SecondSpectrum.com) regarding Jaylen. Their analytics had him much lower than where he went. I argued for why he was the right pick at 3 and why the analytics weren't entirely accurate on him. It was a fun conversation. Celtics have been at the forefront of the analytics movement, so obviously yes, Ainge saw a lot there beyond what some of the data was suggesting. Remember, Celtics fans were generally unhappy with the pick.
I agree with your physics analysis. I bent way low on my free throws for this reason! Wanted to ball to die with no kinetic energy left as it arrived on scene.calumnus said:bearister said:concordtom said:I wonder what's going on with their FT%.EricBear said:
It's mental, and maybe the staff has found the predatory remedy.
Too bad guys like wilt and Shaq never overcame.
With regard to Shaq and Wilt, try shooting a FT with a softball. That is how small the ball felt in their hands.
The problem is more that they are close to the same height as the basket. If you shoot from a lower point, the ball can reach the basket just after it reaches the top of its arcso the speed of the ball when it reaches the basket is minimized and you are more likely to get "the bounce." How'ever, if released from a higher point, the ball either has to have a lot of forward momentum (and is flat, likely to hit the heel and bounce off) or it has to arc higher and further from the basket, giving the ball a lot of downward momentum when it reaches the basket.
More big men should shoot free throws underhand.
Of course, this is entirely true, too.south bender said:
Physics may explain some of it, but there are too many tall guys who can make free throwsNowitzki, Durant, Jokic, to name a fewto see some significant disadvantage per se of height...
1. I think you missed the part in your own post where you said the "current Brown and Ivan Rabb". The current Brown and Rabb could have never played for Cal with Bird, Mathews, and Wallace.Big C said:
Gosh it woulda been nice to have had the current iteration of Jaylen Brown playing for us.
I wonder, though, if this past year's Cal team had had the current Jaylen Brown, if we would've even won half of our games.
Well, how about the current Brown and Ivan Rabb (both would still be juniors)? Geez, I guess you'd have to throw Ty Wallace in there, too, just to have somebody to run the show.
Well, you would still need more shooters, so you'd need Jabari Bird and Jordan Mathews. What a Dream Team!
Wait, we once had all those guys on the same roster?!?
