helltopay1 said:

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Offense: b-/
Defense: D
If everyone stays and if all the recruits come in, Cal will be a very high scoring team next year indeed. Every game will be 91-90. Cal will win more than 50% of their games next year if all thge players remain and all the recruits come in. Guaranteed!! The Ad needs to think long and hard about breaking up all the coaches, half the team and probably all the recruits. after this year. Long and hard. There will be plenty of time for dismantling the whole program if Cal finishes below 50% next year. 91-90 every game!!!Buy your cases of Bourbon now. Also stock up on your heart medicine.

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+1

EricBear said:

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Totally agree with Monty - McNeill alone on right side. They don't look at him. Paris needs to be aware of that and get him the ball for a heat check.

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Monty got mad at Paris when he forced a shot in the half court like he was his coach. He was like "come on Paris" lol.

I'll have to watch the replay but I thought we played really well in spurts and really poorly in sports
Seems like this a team that doesn't play well with a lead
They need to stay focused, stay disciplined, and continue to play hard

Roman had the two highlights ... the ally oop dunk off the Paris assist, and the monster swat on their best big
That was the type of performance I thought he was capable of. He blocked it, played active defense and even had a nice assist

Kelly as a freshmen was the best big on the floor with the double double
Hit a three, but has an array of moves
Might be the surprise player in the Pac-12
His spin move is tight, quick, powerful and in control

Bradley makes plays in crunch time

Paris 11-0 assist/TO

Bears shoot 80% FTs. I officially declare this years team as a good FT team

I thought SJ was a decent team with a bad perimeter defense. We had lots of open 3s

SJ's PG palms with every dribble. I know they don't call that any more but he was one of worst I've seen

Fun game to attend

KoreAmBear said:

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EricBear said:

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Totally agree with Monty - McNeill alone on right side. They don't look at him. Paris needs to be aware of that and get him the ball for a heat check.

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Monty got mad at Paris when he forced a shot in the half court like he was his coach. He was like "come on Paris" lol.

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Paris took a few bad shots
When he plays within himself he's good
When he plays hero ball not so much

HoopDreams said:

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KoreAmBear said:

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EricBear said:

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Totally agree with Monty - McNeill alone on right side. They don't look at him. Paris needs to be aware of that and get him the ball for a heat check.

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Monty got mad at Paris when he forced a shot in the half court like he was his coach. He was like "come on Paris" lol.

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Paris took a few bad shots
When he plays within himself he's good
When he plays hero ball not so much

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Yah he needs to take down his poster of Don Coleman.

HoopDreams said:

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I'll have to watch the replay but I thought we played really well in spurts and really poorly in sports
Seems like this a team that doesn't play well with a lead
They need to stay focused, stay disciplined, and continue to play hard

Roman had the two highlights ... the ally oop dunk off the Paris assist, and the monster swat on their best big
That was the type of performance I thought he was capable of. He blocked it, played active defense and even had a nice assist

Kelly as a freshmen was the best big on the floor with the double double
Hit a three, but has an array of moves
Might be the surprise player in the Pac-12
His spin move is tight, quick, powerful and in control

Bradley makes plays in crunch time

Paris 11-0 assist/TO

Bears shoot 80% FTs. I officially declare this years team as a good FT team

I thought SJ was a decent team with a bad perimeter defense. We had lots of open 3s

SJ's PG palms with every dribble. I know they don't call that any more but he was one of worst I've seen

Fun game to attend

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Just my luck: Been to all the games this season except... this one and SDSU.

Roman Davis, wow! Between tonight and that one game last season, the dude's contributed in TWO GAMES for Cal! That's two more than me! (unless you count my vocal contributions)

Pac 10 teams will not be playing San Jose State defense. Wait and see how we do with this offense against better teams.

When our team becomes proficient in getting the ball to Kelly, with Kelly's lmproving his establishing position to receive a pass, we will be a much better offensive team.

Does Wyking get It?

Eric got it right in the thread title, asking us to play defense. We didn't (AGAIN), and the game was closer than it needed to be. Cal gave up 80 points to a team that averages 71.8 points per game. If SJS had played any defense at all, maybe we lose this game. If we don't suck it up and start playing D, we could be in for a conference season like last year. In the remaining games, Cal will play these teams who score 79 or more points per game:

WSU - 85 points per game
Colorado - 84.3
Seattle - 82.1
ASU - 81
USC - 79.8
UCLA - 79.1

Cal has played 5 teams so far who average 79 or more points per game, and lost 4 out of 5, two by blowouts (USF and FSU). The only win was against Hampton.

If this is not a wake-up call, Cal needs to play the kind of offense they displayed in the SJS game against some of the top defenses in the country to have a good chance to win:

#36 - Oregon
#57 - Arizona
#58 - Oregon State
#63 - Washington

Cal has played two of best defenses in the country so far, #9 USF and #79 St. Mary's, and we all know how those games turned out.

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When our team becomes proficient in getting the ball to Kelly, with Kelly's lmproving his establishing position to receive a pass, we will be a much better offensive team.

Does Wyking get It?

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I see where Kelly is leading all PAC12 players in 2-pt field goal percentage at 68%. I agree it is time to start taking advantage of this.

Does the men's game refer to two foot bank shots as "bunnies?" Im watching the women play UConn and I keep hearing this term.

Ha. I like that almost no fouls are called. Nice flow.

Dear Moraga: I looked and looked but could not see any evidence that Bradley had a perimeter shot. Where did you see evidence of this in his HS tapes?????

EricBear said:

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SFCityBear said:

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south bender said:

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When our team becomes proficient in getting the ball to Kelly, with Kelly's lmproving his establishing position to receive a pass, we will be a much better offensive team.

Does Wyking get It?

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I see where Kelly is leading all PAC12 players in 2-pt field goal percentage at 68%. I agree it is time to start taking advantage of this.

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Agreed, although Andre is second in the PAC-12, to Will Richardson of Oregon (71%).

Matt Bradley leads the PAC-12 (3rd in the nation) in 3FG %.

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I guess it depends on whose rankings we look at. Sports-reference.com has Kelly at #1 in 2pt FG%. Richardson is not ranked or listed, probably because he does not qualify for their minimum number of attempts. He has taken only 31 2-pt shots in 12 games and Kelly has taken 60 2pt shots in 11 games, about double what Richardson has taken. On the other hand, Moses Brown is ranked #1 on Sports-reference.com in overall FG% at 66.7%, while Kelly at 69.4% in overall FG% is not ranked, likely because Kelly did not take enough shots overall to qualify in that category. Kelly is ranked #1 in overall FG% by the PAC12 website and by ESPN. At least that is my reading.

SFCityBear said:

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south bender said:

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When our team becomes proficient in getting the ball to Kelly, with Kelly's lmproving his establishing position to receive a pass, we will be a much better offensive team.

Does Wyking get It?

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I see where Kelly is leading all PAC12 players in 2-pt field goal percentage at 68%. I agree it is time to start taking advantage of this.

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This belongs in the Official Andre Kelly Fan Club Thread.

One thing I noticed last night was that when Harris-Dyson got the ball on the wing, he clearly wanted to go to the basket. He is one of the few players we have with the quickness, hops, and body control to be successful, yet almost every time he got the ball WE had a player clogging the lane and blocking his path. If we are going to rely on a one-on-one offensive strategy, I would hope that at least once in awhile we would clear some space and let H-D do his thing.

IssyBear said:

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One thing I noticed last night was that when Harris-Dyson got the ball on the wing, he clearly wanted to go to the basket. He is one of the few players we have with the quickness, hops, and body control to be successful, yet almost every time he got the ball WE had a player clogging the lane and blocking his path. If we are going to rely on a one-on-one offensive strategy, I would hope that at least once in awhile we would clear some space and let H-D do his thing.

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Maybe he should learn to shoot a basketball

Supposedly he has been working on it and improved. So far no change.

Yogi Bear said:

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IssyBear said:

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One thing I noticed last night was that when Harris-Dyson got the ball on the wing, he clearly wanted to go to the basket. He is one of the few players we have with the quickness, hops, and body control to be successful, yet almost every time he got the ball WE had a player clogging the lane and blocking his path. If we are going to rely on a one-on-one offensive strategy, I would hope that at least once in awhile we would clear some space and let H-D do his thing.

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Maybe he should learn to shoot a basketball

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If he can learn to shoot from the outside by next Saturday, great! If not, I'd rather he limit his game to the thing that he already does well, and that the coaches find ways to help him to do it..

IssyBear said:

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Yogi Bear said:

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IssyBear said:

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One thing I noticed last night was that when Harris-Dyson got the ball on the wing, he clearly wanted to go to the basket. He is one of the few players we have with the quickness, hops, and body control to be successful, yet almost every time he got the ball WE had a player clogging the lane and blocking his path. If we are going to rely on a one-on-one offensive strategy, I would hope that at least once in awhile we would clear some space and let H-D do his thing.

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Maybe he should learn to shoot a basketball

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If he can learn to shoot from the outside by next Saturday, great! If not, I'd rather he limit his game to the thing that he already does well, and that the coaches find ways to help him to do it..

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I'd rather they recruit guys who can shoot and leave the guys who can't on the bench where they belong

He should try a set shot as his jump shot from three is just a heave.

Yogi Bear said:

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IssyBear said:

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Yogi Bear said:

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IssyBear said:

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One thing I noticed last night was that when Harris-Dyson got the ball on the wing, he clearly wanted to go to the basket. He is one of the few players we have with the quickness, hops, and body control to be successful, yet almost every time he got the ball WE had a player clogging the lane and blocking his path. If we are going to rely on a one-on-one offensive strategy, I would hope that at least once in awhile we would clear some space and let H-D do his thing.

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Maybe he should learn to shoot a basketball

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If he can learn to shoot from the outside by next Saturday, great! If not, I'd rather he limit his game to the thing that he already does well, and that the coaches find ways to help him to do it..

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I'd rather they recruit guys who can shoot and leave the guys who can't on the bench where they belong

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Got it. Harris-Dyson you are benched for the year.

oskidunker said:

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He should try a set shot as his jump shot from three is just a heave.

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He's attempted one three-pointer all year. I doubt that will increase much until he gets the tape removed from his fingers.

Yogi Bear said:

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IssyBear said:

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Yogi Bear said:

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IssyBear said:

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One thing I noticed last night was that when Harris-Dyson got the ball on the wing, he clearly wanted to go to the basket. He is one of the few players we have with the quickness, hops, and body control to be successful, yet almost every time he got the ball WE had a player clogging the lane and blocking his path. If we are going to rely on a one-on-one offensive strategy, I would hope that at least once in awhile we would clear some space and let H-D do his thing.

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Maybe he should learn to shoot a basketball

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If he can learn to shoot from the outside by next Saturday, great! If not, I'd rather he limit his game to the thing that he already does well, and that the coaches find ways to help him to do it..

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I'd rather they recruit guys who can shoot and leave the guys who can't on the bench where they belong

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Yogi,

We would all like Cal to make every shot, but shooting is not Cal's problem. It is DEFENSE. This is not last year's team. Right now, Cal is ranked #1 in the PAC12 in 3-point shooting percentage, and ranked #3 in the PAC12 in overall field goal shooting percentage. And Cal is ranked #2 in free throw shooting percentage. If this team finishes the season with these percentages, it is probably one of the best shooting Cal teams in recent years, maybe in Cal history.

The problem with our offense is we don't take enough shots. We rank dead last in field goal attempts, dead last in assists, and dead last in offensive rebounds. We are the best in the PAC12 in not making turnovers, so the problem is in offensive structure, and/or execution. Our rebounding problem is quite simply lack of size up front.

Our main problem is defense. We are dead last in the PAC12 in points allowed, giving up nearly 80 per game. We are dead last in the PAC12 in rebounding margin, getting outrebounded nearly every game. We can maybe get by getting outrebounded, but no way we beat many teams, if we guarantee them nearly 80 points every night. The last time Cal was winning championships and playing in Elite 8s and Final Fours, they had a coach who felt that if you couldn't play defense, you didn't play for him. Defense is what usually wins championships.

So we don't need shooters. We need to recruit bigs, and more bigs. We need size and bigs who can play some defense and get some rebounds. We need better defenders at every position, and we need to start recruiting for defense. Offensively, we need players who are used to playing team basketball, used to sharing the ball, and moving without it to get open for high percentage shots.

SFCityBear said:

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Yogi Bear said:

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IssyBear said:

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Yogi Bear said:

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IssyBear said:

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One thing I noticed last night was that when Harris-Dyson got the ball on the wing, he clearly wanted to go to the basket. He is one of the few players we have with the quickness, hops, and body control to be successful, yet almost every time he got the ball WE had a player clogging the lane and blocking his path. If we are going to rely on a one-on-one offensive strategy, I would hope that at least once in awhile we would clear some space and let H-D do his thing.

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Maybe he should learn to shoot a basketball

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If he can learn to shoot from the outside by next Saturday, great! If not, I'd rather he limit his game to the thing that he already does well, and that the coaches find ways to help him to do it..

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I'd rather they recruit guys who can shoot and leave the guys who can't on the bench where they belong

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Yogi,

We would all like Cal to make every shot, but shooting is not Cal's problem. It is DEFENSE. This is not last year's team. Right now, Cal is ranked #1 in the PAC12 in 3-point shooting percentage, and ranked #3 in the PAC12 in overall field goal shooting percentage. And Cal is ranked #2 in free throw shooting percentage. If this team finishes the season with these percentages, it is probably one of the best shooting Cal teams in recent years, maybe in Cal history.

The problem with our offense is we don't take enough shots. We rank dead last in field goal attempts, dead last in assists, and dead last in offensive rebounds. We are the best in the PAC12 in not making turnovers, so the problem is in offensive structure, and/or execution. Our rebounding problem is quite simply lack of size up front.

Our main problem is defense. We are dead last in the PAC12 in points allowed, giving up nearly 80 per game. We are dead last in the PAC12 in rebounding margin, getting outrebounded nearly every game. We can maybe get by getting outrebounded, but no way we beat many teams, if we guarantee them nearly 80 points every night. The last time Cal was winning championships and playing in Elite 8s and Final Fours, they had a coach who felt that if you couldn't play defense, you didn't play for him. Defense is what usually wins championships.

So we don't need shooters. We need to recruit bigs, and more bigs. We need size and bigs who can play some defense and get some rebounds. We need better defenders at every position, and we need to start recruiting for defense. Offensively, we need players who are used to playing team basketball, used to sharing the ball, and moving without it to get open for high percentage shots.

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Perfectly stated.

NYCGOBEARS said:

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SFCityBear said:

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Yogi Bear said:

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IssyBear said:

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Yogi Bear said:

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IssyBear said:

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One thing I noticed last night was that when Harris-Dyson got the ball on the wing, he clearly wanted to go to the basket. He is one of the few players we have with the quickness, hops, and body control to be successful, yet almost every time he got the ball WE had a player clogging the lane and blocking his path. If we are going to rely on a one-on-one offensive strategy, I would hope that at least once in awhile we would clear some space and let H-D do his thing.

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Maybe he should learn to shoot a basketball

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If he can learn to shoot from the outside by next Saturday, great! If not, I'd rather he limit his game to the thing that he already does well, and that the coaches find ways to help him to do it..

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I'd rather they recruit guys who can shoot and leave the guys who can't on the bench where they belong

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Yogi,

We would all like Cal to make every shot, but shooting is not Cal's problem. It is DEFENSE. This is not last year's team. Right now, Cal is ranked #1 in the PAC12 in 3-point shooting percentage, and ranked #3 in the PAC12 in overall field goal shooting percentage. And Cal is ranked #2 in free throw shooting percentage. If this team finishes the season with these percentages, it is probably one of the best shooting Cal teams in recent years, maybe in Cal history.

The problem with our offense is we don't take enough shots. We rank dead last in field goal attempts, dead last in assists, and dead last in offensive rebounds. We are the best in the PAC12 in not making turnovers, so the problem is in offensive structure, and/or execution. Our rebounding problem is quite simply lack of size up front.

Our main problem is defense. We are dead last in the PAC12 in points allowed, giving up nearly 80 per game. We are dead last in the PAC12 in rebounding margin, getting outrebounded nearly every game. We can maybe get by getting outrebounded, but no way we beat many teams, if we guarantee them nearly 80 points every night. The last time Cal was winning championships and playing in Elite 8s and Final Fours, they had a coach who felt that if you couldn't play defense, you didn't play for him. Defense is what usually wins championships.

So we don't need shooters. We need to recruit bigs, and more bigs. We need size and bigs who can play some defense and get some rebounds. We need better defenders at every position, and we need to start recruiting for defense. Offensively, we need players who are used to playing team basketball, used to sharing the ball, and moving without it to get open for high percentage shots.

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Perfectly stated.

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Note to GMP. That is what a strawman looks like.

SFCB, do you think we have the type of mobile players that should be able to get the players on the other team in foul trouble?

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