"I was actually really surprised," Boatwright said. "I haven't been that open in a long time."
oskidunker said:
"I was actually really surprised," Boatwright said. "I haven't been that open in a long time."
Or lack thereof.calumnus said:oskidunker said:
"I was actually really surprised," Boatwright said. "I haven't been that open in a long time."
Coaching
+1Big C said:
It pained me to see that clown laughing and smirking his way through the second half. I'm probably not being a very good sport, but I would've liked to have seen Bradly knock him on his ass
Your disapproval of the Cal coaching staff (which at this point, I share) is obscuring the issue at hand; an opponent who is acting like a jerk. The Cal team can't do anything about their own coaching staff, but they could make a point that they won't stand for being mocked.Northside91 said:
So the answer to crap leadership/mentorship is physical assault? I don't think so. The problem here isn't smirky opposing players pointing out your team's deficiencies. The problem here is your team's deficiencies, and specifically its dreadfully unqualified coaching staff.
I don't see why you say he was a clown. He was BY FAR the most impressive, enjoyable aspect of the, um, experience, last night. I was telling my friend I felt like a Knicks fan in Madison Square Garden, who watching their awful product once again, can at least see and respect an opponent's briliance.Big C said:
It pained me to see that clown laughing and smirking his way through the second half. I'm probably not being a very good sport, but I would've liked to have seen Bradly knock him on his ass.
Boatwright was awesome from beyond the arc yesterday, I'll give him that. I didn't care for his smirking and looking at our bench, though. Seeing an $C player gloat on our home court was definitely NOT enjoyable for me.TheFiatLux said:I don't see why you say he was a clown. He was BY FAR the most impressive, enjoyable aspect of the, um, experience, last night. I was telling my friend I felt like a Knicks fan in Madison Square Garden, who watching their awful product once again, can at least see and respect an opponent's briliance.Big C said:
It pained me to see that clown laughing and smirking his way through the second half. I'm probably not being a very good sport, but I would've liked to have seen Bradly knock him on his ass.
I was actually pissed at their coach for taking him out with more than four minutes left.
TheFiatLux said:I don't see why you say he was a clown. He was BY FAR the most impressive, enjoyable aspect of the, um, experience, last night. I was telling my friend I felt like a Knicks fan in Madison Square Garden, who watching their awful product once again, can at least see and respect an opponent's briliance.Big C said:
It pained me to see that clown laughing and smirking his way through the second half. I'm probably not being a very good sport, but I would've liked to have seen Bradly knock him on his ass.
I was actually pissed at their coach for taking him out with more than four minutes left.
Big C said:
Anyway, our two best match-ups against Boatwright were either Sueing or JHD. We should've had one of those guys on him. one-on-one, with specific instructions to not give him uncontested shots from out there.
HoopDreams said:
Thornton and Ravo killed us in the first game, but were held down in this second game.
Civil Bear said:
Midgley would have never let him get those shots off.
Boatwright was laughing because it was the worst defense he's ever experienced. The kid recognizes how comical the whole thing is. WJ & company have unfortunately earned that laughter.Big C said:
It pained me to see that clown laughing and smirking his way through the second half. I'm probably not being a very good sport, but I would've liked to have seen Bradly knock him on his ass.
You might be right, but it doesn't change the way I feel about the situation. If anything, it would make me more frustrated, which I would usually deal with by lashing out (perhaps irrationally) at the rival player in question. It'd be nice if all the Cal players could use this as incident as motivation in the future.Bear19 said:Boatwright was laughing because it was the worst defense he's ever experienced. The kid recognizes how comical the whole thing is. WJ & company have unfortunately earned that laughter.Big C said:
It pained me to see that clown laughing and smirking his way through the second half. I'm probably not being a very good sport, but I would've liked to have seen Bradly knock him on his ass.
case in point, WSU big also went off on Cal, but didn't do so with any disrespect to calBig C said:You might be right, but it doesn't change the way I feel about the situation. If anything, it would make me more frustrated, which I would usually deal with by lashing out (perhaps irrationally) at the rival player in question. It'd be nice if all the Cal players could use this as incident as motivation in the future.Bear19 said:Boatwright was laughing because it was the worst defense he's ever experienced. The kid recognizes how comical the whole thing is. WJ & company have unfortunately earned that laughter.Big C said:
It pained me to see that clown laughing and smirking his way through the second half. I'm probably not being a very good sport, but I would've liked to have seen Bradly knock him on his ass.
Eff Bennie Boatwright and all the U$C Trojans... and let me take this opportunity to throw in the Stanfurd Cardinal, just for good measure!
What exactly would you have the coaching staff do? We play zone, and that means we leave long range shooters open and look bad doing it. If we play man, we leave the rim and the area close to it unprotected, and we look bad doing it. You can play a combination of the two, like a box and one, or something, or switch defenses from zone to man from time to time. Do you think that that would fool the experienced USC coach and his experienced USC players?Northside91 said:
So the answer to crap leadership/mentorship is physical assault? I don't think so. The problem here isn't smirky opposing players pointing out your team's deficiencies. The problem here is your team's deficiencies, and specifically its dreadfully unqualified coaching staff.
not sure about some. I am the only one on the board who thought that was at least something to try, rather than see boatright pop 3s over our guards all nightSFCityBear said:
And some here want to send him out to guard 6-10 Boatwright?
again, I'm the guilty party on that one. I don't remember a lot of other posters advocating we mix in zone defenses when Monty and Martin coached.SFCityBear said:
I think if Jones had committed to playing man defense all season, and spent all the time usually spent on teaching defense in practice only on man defense, Cal would be a little better defensive team today. You did not find Cuonzo playing much zone defense, or Montgomery playing zone defense, even though many fans on the Bear Insider were pleading for them to do so. They stuck with man, and their defenses eventually were good defenses.
I think you are a loyal Cal alum who desperately wants the Bears to somehow get things turned around, even though everything you observe says that will never happen. You don't want to get angry at WJ, and certainly not the players, but the anger & frustration keeps building up. So Boatwright becomes a person upon whom to vent. I understand. His behavior didn't strike me as being nearly as egregious as it did you. Actually, since Monty & the other announcer kept saying how ineffective the defense scheme was, I sort of found it funny as well that the Bears kept at it so long in the face of such terrible results.Big C said:
Eff Bennie Boatwright and all the U$C Trojans... and let me take this opportunity to throw in the Stanfurd Cardinal, just for good measure!
That's fine, HoopDreams. I'm guilty of exaggerating to make a point. I thank you for your corrections and additions. I always respect what you have to say. We're good here.HoopDreams said:again, I'm the guilty party on that one. I don't remember a lot of other posters advocating we mix in zone defenses when Monty and Martin coached.SFCityBear said:
I think if Jones had committed to playing man defense all season, and spent all the time usually spent on teaching defense in practice only on man defense, Cal would be a little better defensive team today. You did not find Cuonzo playing much zone defense, or Montgomery playing zone defense, even though many fans on the Bear Insider were pleading for them to do so. They stuck with man, and their defenses eventually were good defenses.
However, I do not like zone defenses as a primary defense. I like it as a change up that works when the other teams are on a roll, and against some teams or line ups that can't shoot.
I don't remember any zone during Martin's seasons, but Monty did start mixing it in. I knew he didn't like it, but in one interview, I remember him saying as much, but admitting that against some teams it works pretty well.
I admired a lot about Monty, and one of those things was that he adjusted his schemes to his players and didn't get stuck in a particular thing just because he never did it. He instead was an elite basketball mind that could adjust based on the circumstances. The fact that he started to mix in zones after many years of being strictly a man defense coach impressed me.
helltopay1 said:
next year ( if everyone stays) expect to see much more man defenses because Cal will have more depth. Old adage: If you have thge horses, play man. if not, play zone. also, I was expecting to see a real difference between Coleman and Austin: They are more similar than different. Austin woulds rather drive than eat or sleep and he is not a good perimeter shooter. His local ties made him a easy recruit, but either Ford or Ferrari would have been a much better bet. I'm sorry if that seems harsh. I'm sure he's a great kid.
You know me like you're my Daddy! Truth be told, yes, that's me in a nutshell these days, with two qualifications:Bear19 said:I think you are a loyal Cal alum who desperately wants the Bears to somehow get things turned around, even though everything you observe says that will never happen. You don't want to get angry at WJ, and certainly not the players, but the anger & frustration keeps building up. So Boatwright becomes a person upon whom to vent. I understand. His behavior didn't strike me as being nearly as egregious as it did you. Actually, since Monty & the other announcer kept saying how ineffective the defense scheme was, I sort of found it funny as well that the Bears kept at it so long in the face of such terrible results.Big C said:
Eff Bennie Boatwright and all the U$C Trojans... and let me take this opportunity to throw in the Stanfurd Cardinal, just for good measure!
i agree, good lord. Who was the last Cal basketball player to get under the opponents skin? Jorge? Justin? Duck? Midge? The fact someone has to defend tough physical play especially after that kids gloating (and yes disrespect) is part of the participation trophy culture we live in.HearstMining said:Your disapproval of the Cal coaching staff (which at this point, I share) is obscuring the issue at hand; an opponent who is acting like a jerk. The Cal team can't do anything about their own coaching staff, but they could make a point that they won't stand for being mocked.Northside91 said:
So the answer to crap leadership/mentorship is physical assault? I don't think so. The problem here isn't smirky opposing players pointing out your team's deficiencies. The problem here is your team's deficiencies, and specifically its dreadfully unqualified coaching staff.
I'm sure Big C didn't mean for Bradley literally slug Boatwright, but there are numerous ways to make a physical point on the court: running the guy into a screen, a well-placed hip when going for a rebound, even driving right into the defender and drawing an offensive foul. I suspect we've all done it in a game and no, it's not physical assault.
understatement candidate for the year award goes to....suspense ...superbear99 said:
I am reading all of this trying to picture us in man to man.
At least at this stage, Connor cannot play D. At all.
Everyone could shoot over Austin. Well most anyway. And you cant hide Austin when you are trying to hide Connor. Might work when kelly is in, but most teams are much taller than us as we all know.
As many noted, we just dont have a lot of horses.
indeed she was, just ask Steven Weed. We named a closet after him(where he was figured to be tied up or cowering). Professor Slottman came up with the name of "the priests" as we would have him over for dinner many times(being catholic and all). He was great for Cal Sports. I went back to cal one day, to a game and popped into Henry's and the bartender informed that he had passed. I was devastated. Drank heavily in his memory. Did not run into Sean Marks that night. Could have been the Bakersfield NIT night.oskidunker said:
Patty Hurst was cute in the 70,s