concordtom said:

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Guys, he ain't coming to Cal. He's all about the NBA.

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Exactly. If Kidd had any interest in coaching at Cal, we all would know that by now. From what I can tell, his team's in the NBA seem to do better after he leaves.

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ClayK said:

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Kidd: DUI, domestic abuse, checkered NBA coaching career with limited success. No college experience. Limited connections, we assume, with the club scene and potential recruits.

Oh, no college degree.

He played at Cal, though ...

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Hot garbage take.

Kidd would be THE game-changing hire. Would come with notable (basketball-relevant) alumni backing and from what i gather, an injection of funding/support that would make a dedicated practice facility a reality.

AAU coaches would be way more receptive to Kidd than any coach we've likely ever had. Limited connections my a$$.

Also managing and coaching NBA millionaires in my estimation is a lot harder than coaching college kids. I think Kidd might do a lot better at the collegiate level than you give him credit for.

Going for the "safe" atypical Cal hire will ensure nothing more than the continuation of program apathy and a ceiling of NIT bids or the occasional 1st round flame-out for the program.

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He would be the big splash hire but not sure if he's the game changing hire. If he really learned how to coach during his time with the Nets and Bucks so be it. But we saw that Cuonzo had more coaching experience and could recruit 5 stars, but we discovered that he couldn't really coach offense. I'm for considering Jason, but I don't want a Cuonzo 2.0.

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Isn't the general consensus on Russell Turner that he is a Cuonzo/Braun defense oriented coach with a limited offense and poor game management skills? And IMO he likely will never be their level of recruiter.

Of the Monty Stanford assistants, the guy that the players liked, the guy who could recruit, was Trent Johnson. At Cal it was everyone but Monty, including Travis Decuire. Travis knows his offense, and is very flexible in his approach, which is critical in college. If Travis had strong California recruiters on his staff, he would be good and I'd be statisfied.

But I'd be excited for Cal basketball if we hired Kidd (I know you don't feel the same).

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I don't think that is the knock on Turner. His Irvine teams are balanced on both ends of the court. early during his tenure his thing was getting Euro bigs. Lately it has been getting sons of NBA players and ex-coaches (see Hazard).

There was an interesting article a few weeks ago about Mike Hopkins and how he "fit" the Pacific Northwest and that it was a big reason for his success and why the AD chose him. And I THINK you could use the same approach with this hire - but I would differ I think with a lot of you on the right "fit"......

Ultimately Cal at the SPORTS level is NOT an Ivy or a Furd. That just isn't the undergrad experience it provides or really the student body it attracts. Not now. Rather, we swim in the same waters as the southern branch or Michigan - big land grant schools. Cal is better than those 2 but generally speaking it is a difference in degree and not in kind.

To me that means you HAVE to lock down the Bay area - and lets be even more blunt - the largely african american community in the Greater Bay area - as YOUR territory. No kid you want and have a spot for should go anywhere else. You develop deep ties (as close to the line as you can get) with the AAU folks in this community (aka Oakland Soliders and others). You help build AAU programs up in the exurbs like Stocktorn and Tracy. You work HARD to make Cal the choice for those programs - with the clear understanding that to get here you need BOTH hoops AND grades (which honestly will appeal to 90%+ of families in AAU).

One of the reasons I was so high on Martin was I thought he was starting in that direction and could get it done. The problem was Martin was about doing Martin, and the above is a longer term effort becuase it might not yield recruits immediately.

Least that would be my strategic approach to building a pipeline. In a metro area of 10+ million there is no reason Cal can't find all the local talent it will ever need.

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concordtom said:

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Guys, he ain't coming to Cal. He's all about the NBA.

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Exactly. If Kidd had any interest in coaching at Cal, we all would know that by now. From what I can tell, his team's in the NBA seem to do better after he leaves.

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He coached two teams. The Bucks got significantly better after he left. The Nets got significantly worse.

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Bear19 said:

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concordtom said:

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Guys, he ain't coming to Cal. He's all about the NBA.

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Exactly. If Kidd had any interest in coaching at Cal, we all would know that by now. From what I can tell, his team's in the NBA seem to do better after he leaves.

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He coached two teams. The Bucks got significantly better after he left. The Nets got significantly worse.

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That looks like a draw. Any non "Kidd sucks as a coach" explanations for why Bucks got better?

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OaktownBear said:

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concordtom said:

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Guys, he ain't coming to Cal. He's all about the NBA.

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Exactly. If Kidd had any interest in coaching at Cal, we all would know that by now. From what I can tell, his team's in the NBA seem to do better after he leaves.

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He coached two teams. The Bucks got significantly better after he left. The Nets got significantly worse.

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That looks like a draw. Any non "Kidd sucks as a coach" explanations for why Bucks got better?

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Mike Budenholzer is regarded as one of the top NBA coaches (2015 NBA coach of the year and a leading candidate this year).

I just don't see Jason Kidd's name striking any chords with 17-year-olds -- the fact that we remember how good he was is irrelevant.

OK, the DUI is not unusual; domestic abuse?

So Kidd goes into a home to sell Cal's academic reputation -- the dad asks if Kidd got his degree. Awkward silence ...

The million-dollar donation is something I didn't know about. Impressive ...

Kidd's reputation in the NBA is not good. He supposedly got one head coach fired (I think it was in Brooklyn) so he could get the head job -- and then he left in a hurry to take the Milwaukee job. There, the Bucks underachieved, according to folks in the league, and now that he left, have the best record in the NBA. (Of course Giannis improved, etc., but many give Budenholzer credit for righting a listing, if not sinking, ship.)

Alumni splash is great, and it means sell more season tickets to old folks. Cal's students have no idea who Jason Kidd was as a player, and likely have no interest in his NBA coaching resume -- and excitement in Haas starts with getting students there. The students will come if the team wins, not if some guy they've never heard of is standing on the sidelines calling NBA plays.

So can Jason Kidd win enough games quickly to make a difference? It would seem to me it would make more sense to do what is now common in pro sports: Start a rebuild from the bottom up, and lay a strong foundation -- as opposed to a flashy hire and some headlines that excite old folks.

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I just don't see Jason Kidd's name striking any chords with 17-year-olds -- the fact that we remember how good he was is irrelevant.

OK, the DUI is not unusual; domestic abuse?

So Kidd goes into a home to sell Cal's academic reputation -- the dad asks if Kidd got his degree. Awkward silence ...

The million-dollar donation is something I didn't know about. Impressive ...

Kidd's reputation in the NBA is not good. He supposedly got one head coach fired (I think it was in Brooklyn) so he could get the head job -- and then he left in a hurry to take the Milwaukee job. There, the Bucks underachieved, according to folks in the league, and now that he left, have the best record in the NBA. (Of course Giannis improved, etc., but many give Budenholzer credit for righting a listing, if not sinking, ship.)

Alumni splash is great, and it means sell more season tickets to old folks. Cal's students have no idea who Jason Kidd was as a player, and likely have no interest in his NBA coaching resume -- and excitement in Haas starts with getting students there. The students will come if the team wins, not if some guy they've never heard of is standing on the sidelines calling NBA plays.

So can Jason Kidd win enough games quickly to make a difference? It would seem to me it would make more sense to do what is now common in pro sports: Start a rebuild from the bottom up, and lay a strong foundation -- as opposed to a flashy hire and some headlines that excite old folks.

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Students and student groups are pushing for Jason on social media...

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I just don't see Jason Kidd's name striking any chords with 17-year-olds -- the fact that we remember how good he was is irrelevant.

OK, the DUI is not unusual; domestic abuse?

So Kidd goes into a home to sell Cal's academic reputation -- the dad asks if Kidd got his degree. Awkward silence ...

The million-dollar donation is something I didn't know about. Impressive ...

Kidd's reputation in the NBA is not good. He supposedly got one head coach fired (I think it was in Brooklyn) so he could get the head job -- and then he left in a hurry to take the Milwaukee job. There, the Bucks underachieved, according to folks in the league, and now that he left, have the best record in the NBA. (Of course Giannis improved, etc., but many give Budenholzer credit for righting a listing, if not sinking, ship.)

Alumni splash is great, and it means sell more season tickets to old folks. Cal's students have no idea who Jason Kidd was as a player, and likely have no interest in his NBA coaching resume -- and excitement in Haas starts with getting students there. The students will come if the team wins, not if some guy they've never heard of is standing on the sidelines calling NBA plays.

So can Jason Kidd win enough games quickly to make a difference? It would seem to me it would make more sense to do what is now common in pro sports: Start a rebuild from the bottom up, and lay a strong foundation -- as opposed to a flashy hire and some headlines that excite old folks.

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I agree with you. As an aside, it is what I hope the Giants are doing as they shuffle around players that I've barely heard of.

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ClayK said:

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I just don't see Jason Kidd's name striking any chords with 17-year-olds -- the fact that we remember how good he was is irrelevant.

OK, the DUI is not unusual; domestic abuse?

So Kidd goes into a home to sell Cal's academic reputation -- the dad asks if Kidd got his degree. Awkward silence ...

The million-dollar donation is something I didn't know about. Impressive ...

Kidd's reputation in the NBA is not good. He supposedly got one head coach fired (I think it was in Brooklyn) so he could get the head job -- and then he left in a hurry to take the Milwaukee job. There, the Bucks underachieved, according to folks in the league, and now that he left, have the best record in the NBA. (Of course Giannis improved, etc., but many give Budenholzer credit for righting a listing, if not sinking, ship.)

Alumni splash is great, and it means sell more season tickets to old folks. Cal's students have no idea who Jason Kidd was as a player, and likely have no interest in his NBA coaching resume -- and excitement in Haas starts with getting students there. The students will come if the team wins, not if some guy they've never heard of is standing on the sidelines calling NBA plays.

So can Jason Kidd win enough games quickly to make a difference? It would seem to me it would make more sense to do what is now common in pro sports: Start a rebuild from the bottom up, and lay a strong foundation -- as opposed to a flashy hire and some headlines that excite old folks.

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I agree with you. As an aside, it is what I hope the Giants are doing as they shuffle around players that I've barely heard of.

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I respectfully disagree. Basketball fans are going to know an NBA Hall of famer. And, if they dont, they will surely will find out with a quick interent search. Furthermore, what point guard recruit would not want to play for a coach who was a phenomenal point guard and Hall of Famer. Cal basketball needs some excitement. While hiring Jason has its risks, I think he has a much higher upside than any of the other names mentioned. TD for instance, coaches at Montana. Montana iis one of if not the sports power house in the Big Sky conference. Players at the Big Sky level, want to play there. It is an exciting environment. I lived in Missoula and watched many Montana basketball and football games. It is the only game in town. Recruiting in the Big Sky is not like recruiting in the PAC-12.

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I just don't see Jason Kidd's name striking any chords with 17-year-olds -- the fact that we remember how good he was is irrelevant.

OK, the DUI is not unusual; domestic abuse?

So Kidd goes into a home to sell Cal's academic reputation -- the dad asks if Kidd got his degree. Awkward silence ...

The million-dollar donation is something I didn't know about. Impressive ...

Kidd's reputation in the NBA is not good. He supposedly got one head coach fired (I think it was in Brooklyn) so he could get the head job -- and then he left in a hurry to take the Milwaukee job. There, the Bucks underachieved, according to folks in the league, and now that he left, have the best record in the NBA. (Of course Giannis improved, etc., but many give Budenholzer credit for righting a listing, if not sinking, ship.)

Alumni splash is great, and it means sell more season tickets to old folks. Cal's students have no idea who Jason Kidd was as a player, and likely have no interest in his NBA coaching resume -- and excitement in Haas starts with getting students there. The students will come if the team wins, not if some guy they've never heard of is standing on the sidelines calling NBA plays.

So can Jason Kidd win enough games quickly to make a difference? It would seem to me it would make more sense to do what is now common in pro sports: Start a rebuild from the bottom up, and lay a strong foundation -- as opposed to a flashy hire and some headlines that excite old folks.

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Even if the 17 year old somehow doesn't know Kidd, the parent(s) will be star struck having an NBA legend in their house. Check out the 30 for 30 on Calipari. He basically just recruits these days with his celebrity factor.

Btw, I would be shocked if there was ever a time that the parents of a 4/5 star basketball recruit asked a coach if they earned their degree. And even if they did, it's such an easy answer - "No that's one of my regrets in life. I was so successful and made so much money in the NBA that education took a backseat. But now I'm working on my degree."

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ClayK said:

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I just don't see Jason Kidd's name striking any chords with 17-year-olds -- the fact that we remember how good he was is irrelevant.

OK, the DUI is not unusual; domestic abuse?

So Kidd goes into a home to sell Cal's academic reputation -- the dad asks if Kidd got his degree. Awkward silence ...

The million-dollar donation is something I didn't know about. Impressive ...

Kidd's reputation in the NBA is not good. He supposedly got one head coach fired (I think it was in Brooklyn) so he could get the head job -- and then he left in a hurry to take the Milwaukee job. There, the Bucks underachieved, according to folks in the league, and now that he left, have the best record in the NBA. (Of course Giannis improved, etc., but many give Budenholzer credit for righting a listing, if not sinking, ship.)

Alumni splash is great, and it means sell more season tickets to old folks. Cal's students have no idea who Jason Kidd was as a player, and likely have no interest in his NBA coaching resume -- and excitement in Haas starts with getting students there. The students will come if the team wins, not if some guy they've never heard of is standing on the sidelines calling NBA plays.

So can Jason Kidd win enough games quickly to make a difference? It would seem to me it would make more sense to do what is now common in pro sports: Start a rebuild from the bottom up, and lay a strong foundation -- as opposed to a flashy hire and some headlines that excite old folks.

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Even if the 17 year old somehow doesn't know Kidd, the parent(s) will be star struck having an NBA legend in their house. Check out the 30 for 30 on Calipari. He basically just recruits these days with his celebrity factor.

Btw, I would be shocked if there was ever a time that the parents of a 4/5 star basketball recruit asked a coach if they earned their degree. And even if they did, it's such an easy answer - "No that's one of my regrets in life. I was so successful and made so much money in the NBA that education took a backseat. But now I'm working on my degree."

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Saying that you were "so successful and made so much money" might not be the best thing if you care about building a positive public image. And you would have to be actually working on your degree to claim you're working on your degree. Kinda long odds that a power conference head coach is going to be doing that. In any case, he'd be an exception.

Interesting no one's countered the domestic abuse aspect ...

Of course platitudes can be mouthed, and yes, it was a while ago, but this is the age of the hashtag.

And really, from what I saw in the NBA (and I follow that league closely), he never seemed to be a particularly good coach at that level. And since he's never recruited, I just don't see the odds being in his favor.

Now, is there a path to success with Jason Kidd as Cal's head coach? Yes. The question is whether it's a more difficult one than for other potential hires.

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I just don't see Jason Kidd's name striking any chords with 17-year-olds -- the fact that we remember how good he was is irrelevant.

OK, the DUI is not unusual; domestic abuse?

So Kidd goes into a home to sell Cal's academic reputation -- the dad asks if Kidd got his degree. Awkward silence ...

The million-dollar donation is something I didn't know about. Impressive ...

Kidd's reputation in the NBA is not good. He supposedly got one head coach fired (I think it was in Brooklyn) so he could get the head job -- and then he left in a hurry to take the Milwaukee job. There, the Bucks underachieved, according to folks in the league, and now that he left, have the best record in the NBA. (Of course Giannis improved, etc., but many give Budenholzer credit for righting a listing, if not sinking, ship.)

Alumni splash is great, and it means sell more season tickets to old folks. Cal's students have no idea who Jason Kidd was as a player, and likely have no interest in his NBA coaching resume -- and excitement in Haas starts with getting students there. The students will come if the team wins, not if some guy they've never heard of is standing on the sidelines calling NBA plays.

So can Jason Kidd win enough games quickly to make a difference? It would seem to me it would make more sense to do what is now common in pro sports: Start a rebuild from the bottom up, and lay a strong foundation -- as opposed to a flashy hire and some headlines that excite old folks.

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Even if the 17 year old somehow doesn't know Kidd, the parent(s) will be star struck having an NBA legend in their house. Check out the 30 for 30 on Calipari. He basically just recruits these days with his celebrity factor.

Btw, I would be shocked if there was ever a time that the parents of a 4/5 star basketball recruit asked a coach if they earned their degree. And even if they did, it's such an easy answer - "No that's one of my regrets in life. I was so successful and made so much money in the NBA that education took a backseat. But now I'm working on my degree."

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Saying that you were "so successful and made so much money" might not be the best thing if you care about building a positive public image. And you would have to be actually working on your degree to claim you're working on your degree. Kinda long odds that a power conference head coach is going to be doing that. In any case, he'd be an exception.

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Public image yes, but I'm talking about a recruiting pitch. Think about the audience. Ie. the best youth basketball players in the country who eat, sleep, and breathe basketball, and their parents, many of which are counting on their kid as their meal ticket. I would be shocked if more than a few of the top 50 recruits each year cared about academics. Yes, most of them have a canned response about being interested in education that they were taught to repeat, but their actions show otherwise. And frankly, I would be the same if I were in their position.

If I were signing 6 or 7 figure checks to Cal athletics, I would rather rub elbows with Jason Kidd than with Travis DcCuire....but even if I were signing those checks, I would want what is best for Cal basketball more than I would want to rub elbows with a NBA hall of famer......Please do the right thing for Cal, not for your ego....

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concordtom said:

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Guys, he ain't coming to Cal. He's all about the NBA.

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Exactly. If Kidd had any interest in coaching at Cal, we all would know that by now. From what I can tell, his team's in the NBA seem to do better after he leaves.

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He coached two teams. The Bucks got significantly better after he left. The Nets got significantly worse.

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That looks like a draw. Any non "Kidd sucks as a coach" explanations for why Bucks got better?

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No reason to give a complicated answer when the simple answer is correct. The Bucks played crappy offense AND crappy defense under Kidd relative to their personnel. He sucked.

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ClayK said:

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I just don't see Jason Kidd's name striking any chords with 17-year-olds -- the fact that we remember how good he was is irrelevant.

OK, the DUI is not unusual; domestic abuse?

So Kidd goes into a home to sell Cal's academic reputation -- the dad asks if Kidd got his degree. Awkward silence ...

The million-dollar donation is something I didn't know about. Impressive ...

Kidd's reputation in the NBA is not good. He supposedly got one head coach fired (I think it was in Brooklyn) so he could get the head job -- and then he left in a hurry to take the Milwaukee job. There, the Bucks underachieved, according to folks in the league, and now that he left, have the best record in the NBA. (Of course Giannis improved, etc., but many give Budenholzer credit for righting a listing, if not sinking, ship.)

Alumni splash is great, and it means sell more season tickets to old folks. Cal's students have no idea who Jason Kidd was as a player, and likely have no interest in his NBA coaching resume -- and excitement in Haas starts with getting students there. The students will come if the team wins, not if some guy they've never heard of is standing on the sidelines calling NBA plays.

So can Jason Kidd win enough games quickly to make a difference? It would seem to me it would make more sense to do what is now common in pro sports: Start a rebuild from the bottom up, and lay a strong foundation -- as opposed to a flashy hire and some headlines that excite old folks.

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Even if the 17 year old somehow doesn't know Kidd, the parent(s) will be star struck having an NBA legend in their house. Check out the 30 for 30 on Calipari. He basically just recruits these days with his celebrity factor.

Btw, I would be shocked if there was ever a time that the parents of a 4/5 star basketball recruit asked a coach if they earned their degree. And even if they did, it's such an easy answer - "No that's one of my regrets in life. I was so successful and made so much money in the NBA that education took a backseat. But now I'm working on my degree."

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Saying that you were "so successful and made so much money" might not be the best thing if you care about building a positive public image. And you would have to be actually working on your degree to claim you're working on your degree. Kinda long odds that a power conference head coach is going to be doing that. In any case, he'd be an exception.

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Simple answer (if ever asked): "I want your son to have the same opportunity I did: to either receive a great education and a great degree from one of the world's great universities on the way to a professional career, or, if your son and I are successful, have the opportunity to leave Cal for the NBA and become a multimillionaire early as Kevin Johnson, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Jaylen Brown, Ivan Rabb and I were able to do. It is a no-lose, win-win decision."

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I just don't see Jason Kidd's name striking any chords with 17-year-olds -- the fact that we remember how good he was is irrelevant.

OK, the DUI is not unusual; domestic abuse?

So Kidd goes into a home to sell Cal's academic reputation -- the dad asks if Kidd got his degree. Awkward silence ...

The million-dollar donation is something I didn't know about. Impressive ...

Kidd's reputation in the NBA is not good. He supposedly got one head coach fired (I think it was in Brooklyn) so he could get the head job -- and then he left in a hurry to take the Milwaukee job. There, the Bucks underachieved, according to folks in the league, and now that he left, have the best record in the NBA. (Of course Giannis improved, etc., but many give Budenholzer credit for righting a listing, if not sinking, ship.)

Alumni splash is great, and it means sell more season tickets to old folks. Cal's students have no idea who Jason Kidd was as a player, and likely have no interest in his NBA coaching resume -- and excitement in Haas starts with getting students there. The students will come if the team wins, not if some guy they've never heard of is standing on the sidelines calling NBA plays.

So can Jason Kidd win enough games quickly to make a difference? It would seem to me it would make more sense to do what is now common in pro sports: Start a rebuild from the bottom up, and lay a strong foundation -- as opposed to a flashy hire and some headlines that excite old folks.

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Even if the 17 year old somehow doesn't know Kidd, the parent(s) will be star struck having an NBA legend in their house. Check out the 30 for 30 on Calipari. He basically just recruits these days with his celebrity factor.

Btw, I would be shocked if there was ever a time that the parents of a 4/5 star basketball recruit asked a coach if they earned their degree. And even if they did, it's such an easy answer - "No that's one of my regrets in life. I was so successful and made so much money in the NBA that education took a backseat. But now I'm working on my degree."

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Yes, but to my knowledge, Jason is not working on his degree.

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OaktownBear said:

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Bear19 said:

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concordtom said:

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Guys, he ain't coming to Cal. He's all about the NBA.

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Exactly. If Kidd had any interest in coaching at Cal, we all would know that by now. From what I can tell, his team's in the NBA seem to do better after he leaves.

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He coached two teams. The Bucks got significantly better after he left. The Nets got significantly worse.

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That looks like a draw. Any non "Kidd sucks as a coach" explanations for why Bucks got better?

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It's tough to draw a conclusion from either of those sequences. Kidd's Bucks teams were really inconsistent, played atrocious defense and he didn't adjust his schemes when they didn't work, and they generally were considered underachievers the last year or two. But the improvement since is not only due to Budenholzer, who is a really good coach, but also to some pretty significant improvements in personnel. They added Lopez and later Mirotic, both bigs who shoot the three well, which opens up offense for Giannis.

Kidd only coached the Nets one season and did not leave on good terms. His rep with the Nets was that his bench coaches did most of the in-game work and their offense was so iso-based and vanilla that it was easy to defend. He also tried to push out most of the front office and grab more power over personnel for himself, which backfired and ended in him getting traded to the Bucks.

Tell me more about this "social media" thing.

I thought I heard that Jason Kidd was working on his Cal degree now????????

anyone know for certain?

Methinks that if Jason Kidd ever wanted the Cal job, he could get it in a snap.

Start showing up to Cal events.
Glad-hand alumni.
Show that he wants to work with teens, not NBA players. Show that he will work to recruit.
Show up at high school playoff games. Tweet at California prospects, tell them you like their game.
Sit in studio at Pac12 Network or College Gameday on ESPN. Be a media guy at the McD all American game.

On Kidd's media appearances this week, it was all NBA stuff, not college stuff.
He said that the interest from Cal "shows that I'm doing something right".

Uh, no, Jason.
When you arrive at next November still unemployed, that will show that you've done everything wrong. (The Lakers are not hiring him.)

If you want a job, go get it.
Clearly, you did not want the Cal job.
Maybe next time.

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Methinks that if Jason Kidd ever wanted the Cal job, he could get it in a snap.

Start showing up to Cal events.
Glad-hand alumni.
Show that he wants to work with teens, not NBA players. Show that he will work to recruit.
Show up at high school playoff games. Tweet at California prospects, tell them you like their game.
Sit in studio at Pac12 Network or College Gameday on ESPN. Be a media guy at the McD all American game.

On Kidd's media appearances this week, it was all NBA stuff, not college stuff.
He said that the interest from Cal "shows that I'm doing something right".

Uh, no, Jason.
When you arrive at next November still unemployed, that will show that you've done everything wrong. (The Lakers are not hiring him.)

If you want a job, go get it.
Clearly, you did not want the Cal job.
Maybe next time.

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Well, he was doing the first two and a half last year. I have a picture with him at a Cal event, glad handing me, while he talked about spending most of his time with AAU and local youth programs. He also mentioned that he feels he is NBA material at heart and doesn't want to burn any more bridges.

That was pretty much the extent of my fanboy convo