Transfers/ returnees/recruits

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parentswerebears
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Seriously, who is going to want to come to Cal at this point? I know a couple of the guys will be back or still be coming, but this a COMPLETE rebuild.

Maybe Fox can sell the "you'll be a star" line, but really, who are we kidding? This is going to be yet another BDW year- at least for the foreseeable future.

I know that if I have any skill, I'm not going to Cal. What can they possibly offer me from a basketball standpoint?
calgo430
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very little feom a bball view
bluesaxe
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parentswerebears said:

Seriously, who is going to want to come to Cal at this point? I know a couple of the guys will be back or still be coming, but this a COMPLETE rebuild.

Maybe Fox can sell the "you'll be a star" line, but really, who are we kidding? This is going to be yet another BDW year- at least for the foreseeable future.

I know that if I have any skill, I'm not going to Cal. What can they possibly offer me from a basketball standpoint?
Playing time. Possibly player development from what seems to be a competent teaching staff.

That's about it.
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parentswerebears said:

Seriously, who is going to want to come to Cal at this point? I know a couple of the guys will be back or still be coming, but this a COMPLETE rebuild.

Maybe Fox can sell the "you'll be a star" line, but really, who are we kidding? This is going to be yet another BDW year- at least for the foreseeable future.

I know that if I have any skill, I'm not going to Cal. What can they possibly offer me from a basketball standpoint?
A lot of playing time. If the player is a scorer, a lot of shots.

Sluggo
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Booth
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oski003 said:

Booth
Player coming from overseas. Awesome education, great weather, play some ball for free...
Big C
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bluesaxe said:

parentswerebears said:

Seriously, who is going to want to come to Cal at this point? I know a couple of the guys will be back or still be coming, but this a COMPLETE rebuild.

Maybe Fox can sell the "you'll be a star" line, but really, who are we kidding? This is going to be yet another BDW year- at least for the foreseeable future.

I know that if I have any skill, I'm not going to Cal. What can they possibly offer me from a basketball standpoint?
Playing time. Possibly player development from what seems to be a competent teaching staff.

That's about it.
Add in...

Full ride scholarship at a university with a valued diploma, in a nice area with good weather.

Media exposure, playing, usually on TV, in a major metropolitan area, in what has traditionally been considered a major conference.

Sure, lots of players aren't going to be sold by that, but that's where the coach comes in, identifying the right student athletes and selling the product.
parentswerebears
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You phrased that perfectly. The right coach. When is he/ she going to come to Cal?
calumnus
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sluggo said:

parentswerebears said:

Seriously, who is going to want to come to Cal at this point? I know a couple of the guys will be back or still be coming, but this a COMPLETE rebuild.

Maybe Fox can sell the "you'll be a star" line, but really, who are we kidding? This is going to be yet another BDW year- at least for the foreseeable future.

I know that if I have any skill, I'm not going to Cal. What can they possibly offer me from a basketball standpoint?
A lot of playing time. If the player is a scorer, a lot of shots.

Sluggo


One of the criticisms of Fox at Georgia is he didn't play his best scorers or give them enough shots, preferring a slow down, "defense" oriented lineup and strategy.

BearSD
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Silver wisecracks about the player exodus...

KoreAmBear
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bluesaxe said:

parentswerebears said:

Seriously, who is going to want to come to Cal at this point? I know a couple of the guys will be back or still be coming, but this a COMPLETE rebuild.

Maybe Fox can sell the "you'll be a star" line, but really, who are we kidding? This is going to be yet another BDW year- at least for the foreseeable future.

I know that if I have any skill, I'm not going to Cal. What can they possibly offer me from a basketball standpoint?
Playing time. Possibly player development from what seems to be a competent teaching staff.

That's about it.
Like our man Don Coleman who got all the PT he wanted in his first year.
bearister
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Grant, Kelly, Austin, a healthy Jacobi Gordon, and Especially Matt Bradley can play ball. Departures: Sueing will be good to go wherever he ends up. I had hopes for McNeill, the man who can literally disappear from a stat sheet, if he could get his confidence level up (which I was positive was going to happen his last two years at Cal). Now that he is starting over and has to prove himself, he runs a serious risk of a permanent disappearing act. I like his humility and wish him well. JHD is hopeless and will never get off the bench. If you can't make a bunny at his age it is never, ever going to happen for you.
Vanover: I spent half the season hating on him and half the season loving him. He will never gain enough weight, he will never run the floor well and he will always be a defensive liability. Will his shooting continue on an upward trend and outweigh his deficiencies or, like ex Niner QB Steve Bono, as his playing time increases will he gyroscope back to his true mediocrity? With more play, he may be injury prone. Only time will tell. Roman Davis' departure, like JHD's, is little more than freeing up a scholarship.

Bring in a 4 pack of fundamentally sound scrappy Australians to plug the holes and lets win a few games with guys that want more than just basketball out their time at Cal. GO BEARS!

...and I forgot to add that the thing that tickles me the most about this whole sad affair is that the best player on our team, by a wide margin, Matt Bradley, appears as of this date to be staying. He will make his mark in the sports pages in the Bay Area these next 3 years and YOU CAN BANK ON THAT!
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KoreAmBear
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bearister said:

Kelly, Austin, a healthy Jacobi Gordon, and Especially Matt Bradley can play ball. Departures: Sueing will be good to go wherever he ends up. I had hopes for McNeill, the man who can literally disappear from a stat sheet, if he could get his confidence level up (which I was positive was going to happen his last two years at Cal). Now that he is starting over and has to prove himself, he runs a serious risk of a permanent disappearing act. I like his humility and wish him well. JHD is hopeless and will never get off the bench. If you can't make a bunny at his age it is never, ever going to happen for you.
Vanover: I spent half the season hating on him and half the season loving him. He will never gain enough weight, he will never run the floor well and he will always be a defensive liability. Will his shooting continue on an upward trend and outweigh his deficiencies or, like ex Niner QB Steve Bono, as his playing time increases will he gyroscope back to his true mediocrity? With more play, he may be injury prone. Only time will tell. Roman Davis' departure, like JHD's, is little more than freeing up a scholarship.

Bring in a 4 pack of fundamentally sound scrappy Australians to plug the holes and lets win a few games with guys that want more than just basketball out their time at Cal. GO BEARS!
That's your Moraga DNA talking.
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I said it because we now have an Aussie assistant coach. And lest we forget, there is a significant number of people in the BI community that think Randy Bennett is one crackin' coach. WRONG! Dem Aussies are crackin'!

Speaking of Aussies, I forgot Grant. I am a huge fan of his. Unlike Vanover, I think the more Grant plays, the better he is going to get. I love that kid.
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KoreAmBear
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bearister said:

I said it because we now have an Aussie assistant coach. And lest we forget, there is a significant number of people in the BI community that think Randy Bennett is one crackin' coach. WRONG! Dem Aussies are crackin'!

Speaking of Aussies, I forgot Grant. I am a huge fan of his. Unlike Vanover, I think the more Grant plays, the better he is going to get. I love that kid.
He is a great kid. I was at the USC game in LA this year. Grant played like 1 minute in the game. After the game he chatted with us, had this very pleasant demeanor and thanked us for coming. He could have easily just been reserved and set back, feeling sorry for himself that he had another near DNP.
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