bearister said:

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"... but I remember about ten years or so ago, we had Eric Vierneisel as the next Glen Rice."

Hey, EV went 4 for 4 from the arc in his first game. He just should have retired after that game.

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I was there. It may have been 4 for 4, but it felt like 6 for 6. Agree on the last part, although he was decent on defense and seldom made mistakes. Just never shot very well after that first game.

Mike Williams, the last two years is 100% on you, you POS.

Civil Bear said:

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R90 said:

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GrandPa Bear said:

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* Lars is way ahead of Vanover at the same stage last year. He could be a star with more experience & conditioning.

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I agree completely.

Vanover progressed dramatically as the season went on. While Lars is a deserving starter now (and Vanover only started 15 of his 28 games), I don't see Lars playing this year at the level Vanover reached by the end of last season.

Vanover vs. Stanford:
33 minutes, 24 points on 9-12, 5-6 3s, 6 blocks, 5 rebounds.

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Vanover had a hell of game against the furds, but even with that nearly unconscious performance he only ended up at 35% from three on the season. Seems like his shooting is lauded quite heavily for matching the NCAA average.

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if he was 6'5", no one would notice his mediocre three point shooting.

SFCityBear said:

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bearister said:

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"... but I remember about ten years or so ago, we had Eric Vierneisel as the next Glen Rice."

Hey, EV went 4 for 4 from the arc in his first game. He just should have retired after that game.

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I was there. It may have been 4 for 4, but it felt like 6 for 6. Agree on the last part, although he was decent on defense and seldom made mistakes. Just never shot very well after that first game.

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Except for the year he lead his team in three-point shooting.

graguna said:

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...if he was 6'5", no one would notice his mediocre three point shooting.

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Yep, you have to have a lot more talent on the team than Cal has had the last few years in order to afford the luxury of a one trick pony playing significant minutes.

It is a Haas of Pain no more. Or at least until the next game.

bearister said:

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"... but I remember about ten years or so ago, we had Eric Vierneisel as the next Glen Rice."

Hey, EV went 4 for 4 from the arc in his first game. He just should have retired after that game.

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More one hit wonders -- I think Nick Vanderlaan went 17/10 in his first game at the pre-season Alaska tourney. It went downhill from there.

Civil Bear said:

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SFCityBear said:

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bearister said:

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"... but I remember about ten years or so ago, we had Eric Vierneisel as the next Glen Rice."

Hey, EV went 4 for 4 from the arc in his first game. He just should have retired after that game.

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I was there. It may have been 4 for 4, but it felt like 6 for 6. Agree on the last part, although he was decent on defense and seldom made mistakes. Just never shot very well after that first game.

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Except for the year he lead his team in three-point shooting.

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That actually is true, and thank you for pointing that out. It was especially impressive when we consider that team had excellent career three-point shooters in Theo Robertson, Jerome Randle, Ryan Anderson, along with some decent ones in Omar Wilkes, Ayinde Ubaka, and Patrick Christopher.

Vierneisel should be proud of that, even though Eric was a junior, and Randle, Anderson, and Christopher were just freshmen and Theo a soph, and all except PC would go on to become much better 3 point shooters, while Vierneisel would fall back to 0.298 in his final season. Vierneisel played only 13 minutes a game that season, shot threes at 0.388,which was the best average, but he only tied for 4th in threes made with 26, far behind the leaders. Ubaka with 59 and Anederson with 58. He made less than one three per game.

Vierneisel was a career 0.326 shooter on threes, far better than star players like Jaylen Brown at 0.294 and Tyrone Wallace at 0.292. I guess some of us fans just never forgave him for that first game where he got our hopes up so high, and never equaled that performance again.