I was away when the streak ended but heard about it from my brother and dad.

For me it would be taking SCT Jr. to his first Bears BB game against Arizona when they were number 1 and Cobbs beat them with that sweet fadeaway.

As Roxie said

"Number 1, Unbeaten, no More!!"



Of course I have had to explain to him it all goes downhill from there ;-)

+1

socaltownie said:

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I was away when the streak ended but heard about it from my brother and dad.

For me it would be taking SCT Jr. to his first Bears BB game against Arizona when they were number 1 and Cobbs beat them with that sweet fadeaway.

As Roxie said

"Number 1, Unbeaten, no More!!"



Of course I have had to explain to him it all goes downhill from there ;-)

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Not even close to 1986 Cal win over Ucla. They are fucla you know.

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Can't argue with Breaking-the-Streak-vs-UCLA or beating #1 Arizona in the last seconds, so I will throw a different one into the mix just to add some variety:

Cal beats Oregon in 5 overtimes at Harmon, 1977. Cal's Gene Ransom goes for 36, the Duck's Greg Ballard for 43(?).

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I've answered this before, and it isn't just to add some variety. The 107-102 win over the Ducks in 5 OT is my favorite all-time moment inside Harmon/Haas.

Gene the Dream played all 63 1/2 minutes before fouling out! Forget about the 36 points, 63 1/2 minutes is the most impressive thing Gene did that day.

And, as I've also said before, my second favorite is the 67-65 victory over George Raveling's WSU team on January 13, 1979. If they took 64 teams to the tourney back then, WSU would have been one of them in 1979, finishing 10-8 in the Pac-10 and 8-1 OOC. The Bears finished solidly in last place in the Pac-10, 4-14 and 6-12 overall, the worst season in my time as a Cal fan until Wyking came along. That night, from the south stands, Tom Caselli, then an owner of the Come Back Inn (beer for all ages!), now dearly departed, willed the crowd to will the Bears to victory. I think you had to be there to really understand how it felt to be part of the crowd that night.

Beating UCLA in 1986 would have felt better if UCLA had been a better team that year. We weren't beating a great UCLA team, we weren't beating a #1 team, a top 10 team, or even a top 25 team. We were beating a UCLA team that having a worse year than the last one when they didn't make the NCAA but won the NIT. In 1986, the Bruins went on to finish 9-9 in conference, 15-14 overall, and lost in the first round of the NIT. It was crazy at Harmon that day, and great to get that monkey off our backs, but Cal played a more impressive game against the Bruins 3 years earlier when UCLA came into Harmon at #1 and squeaked out a 5 point win.

Beating-the-Streak was great, but since this isn't "best" but "favorite," I'll take the 5 OT game and the Tom Caselli game ahead of it.

I have Ransom's signature on the stub from the 77 game. Was a great game.

Beating asu and winning the conference is high on the list

socaltownie said:

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One that should be up there is beating ASU to win our first conference title in like FOREVER.

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Thanks socaltownie for posting this. I think winning the PAC12 conference regular season championship is one of the toughest things to do as a team, maybe even the toughest, because you have to play half your conference games in hostile arenas remote from home, not on a neutral floor like the PAC12 tournament or the NCAA. It isn't as important to modern fans these days, but it is still very important to the players.

History 4A Final in 1963. Pouring rain and hail hitting the glass windows creating horrible noise inside the gym where we were on folding tables scribbling in our Blue Books.

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Can't argue with Breaking-the-Streak-vs-UCLA or beating #1 Arizona in the last seconds, so I will throw a different one into the mix just to add some variety:

Cal beats Oregon in 5 overtimes at Harmon, 1977. Cal's Gene Ransom goes for 36, the Duck's Greg Ballard for 43(?).

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My roommate at the time wandered over to Harmon near the end of the game and ended up staying and hanging out for the equivilent of a whole nother game through 5 overtimes.


p.s. my roomie that year went to more game than me and I remember him telling me about Cal stomping (I think?) on the Furds and "Sugar" Ray Murray going off for lots of dunks and points. Can anyone corroborate this memory....

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Big C said:

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Can't argue with Breaking-the-Streak-vs-UCLA or beating #1 Arizona in the last seconds, so I will throw a different one into the mix just to add some variety:

Cal beats Oregon in 5 overtimes at Harmon, 1977. Cal's Gene Ransom goes for 36, the Duck's Greg Ballard for 43(?).

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I've answered this before, and it isn't just to add some variety. The 107-102 win over the Ducks in 5 OT is my favorite all-time moment inside Harmon/Haas.

Gene the Dream played all 63 1/2 minutes before fouling out! Forget about the 36 points, 63 1/2 minutes is the most impressive thing Gene did that day.

And, as I've also said before, my second favorite is the 67-65 victory over George Raveling's WSU team on January 13, 1979. If they took 64 teams to the tourney back then, WSU would have been one of them in 1979, finishing 10-8 in the Pac-10 and 8-1 OOC. The Bears finished solidly in last place in the Pac-10, 4-14 and 6-12 overall, the worst season in my time as a Cal fan until Wyking came along. That night, from the south stands, Tom Caselli, then an owner of the Come Back Inn (beer for all ages!), now dearly departed, willed the crowd to will the Bears to victory. I think you had to be there to really understand how it felt to be part of the crowd that night.

Beating UCLA in 1986 would have felt better if UCLA had been a better team that year. We weren't beating a great UCLA team, we weren't beating a #1 team, a top 10 team, or even a top 25 team. We were beating a UCLA team that having a worse year than the last one when they didn't make the NCAA but won the NIT. In 1986, the Bruins went on to finish 9-9 in conference, 15-14 overall, and lost in the first round of the NIT. It was crazy at Harmon that day, and great to get that monkey off our backs, but Cal played a more impressive game against the Bruins 3 years earlier when UCLA came into Harmon at #1 and squeaked out a 5 point win.

Beating-the-Streak was great, but since this isn't "best" but "favorite," I'll take the 5 OT game and the Tom Caselli game ahead of it.

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One of the coolest/weirdest things from that game... so, with FIVE overtimes, players are fouling out, right? Round about the second or third OT, it was like, well, who do we have to put in? Off the bench comes freshman Kevin Singleton, who hit (IIRC) a couple of key buckets!

I'd have to agree with all the games mentioned here. They all bring back great memories.

My first game came when I was too young to understand much, but I do remember that the great Andy Wolfe had returned to Harmon after graduating the previous year. He had become the captain of the Stewart Chevrolet team, and they beat the Bears that night. In the early '50s, almost any game was a great experience, and I got to see the Ricksen twins, Bob McKeen, Bob Albo, Dick Tamberg, and Bob Matheny. In 1954, I got to see complicated plays for the first time with Pete Newell running things, and the years that followed I came to appreciate defense and great defenders like Imhoff, Buch, Dalton, Simpson, Gillis, and a whole lot more. Cal's best defender ever was maybe Jason Kidd, followed by Jorge, and I loved watching both of them in every game.

Almost any game that Gene Ransom, Rusty Critchfield, or Jason Kidd played in was electric. I saw so many great players come to Harmon or Haas: Bill Russell, KC Jones, Wilt Chamberlain, Bob Boozer, and even though Cal lost all those games, the Cal team gave those guys all they could handle. I'd be remiss if I didn't pay respect to the great Eddie House, who went for 61 points in ASU's double overtime win over Cal.

The most memorable time I had in Harmon was a personal and selfish memory. It was when I tried out for the Cal frosh over 3 days of scrimmages with 60 players. Six months before, Cal had won the NCAA title, so they had no trouble signing good recruits, and with 17 recruits already on the team, the rest of us were trying to get that one walk-on spot. My favorite memory was after the end of the final scrimmage, when I had just found out that even after playing the best basketball of my life, Dub Washington got the spot, and I was cut along with 42 others. I was sitting on the bench, wondering what to do next in my life, when an assistant coach came over to talk with me. He said I had played great, but they couldn't keep me because I was too small. He said I needed to bulk up to 175-180 lbs, and I weighed 145, if that. He told me to take some body-building classes, and eat a lot of bananas and milk shakes every day. Then he said the coaches wanted me to try out again next Fall. I think I became a Cal fan forever at that moment.

Also have to go with the Ransom game, especially because ge was LF jrs freshman coach at Berkeley.

This maybe weird but I have two favorite games that were losses. The first was when I was a student and Cal very nearly upset the Alcindor led UCLA squad. This may be a false memory but I recall "Tree" Johnson blocking one of Lew's shots.

My other one is Eddie House scoring 61 (I think). Been to a lot of games over 50 years but that was the most amazing performance.

The loudest moment I ever heard in Harmon was Kevin Johnson hitting a crucial shot toward the end of the first NIT game against California State Somebody (Long Beach?)
The place was far past capacity and it sounded like a jet engine at full power.

I think that was against Fullerton

Yes. I recall a guy next to me saying " If this is what the Nit is like, what must the Ncaa be like?"

Oh those were the greatest! Nothing beat going to a game at Harmon back then. I went to almost all games from 75-1991. The 5 OT Oregon game, finally beating fucla, beating Villanova, beating Fullerton in the NIT (Ithink that went to OT), there are/were so many others. Just being in that, it was so loud, obnoxious, hot, and very in your face.

We need to bring that back to Cal basketball.

TOC, McClymonds Oakland against Berkeley HS. Nate Williams vs Phil Chenier. So long ago, I can't remember who won. I think the Yellow Jackets. Total shootout.

My favorite moment was more than 60 years ago, either 1955 or 1956. USF (NCAA champion) vs Cal. Newell knew he had little chance against Russell. Russell was going to stay under the basket and block anything that was close (and he had long arms). Newell put the center, Dougherty, at half court with the ball and told him to hold it until Russell came out. Russell never came out. I think Dougherty held it for 7 or 8 minutes at one stretch. KC Jones slapped the ball out out of his hands, grabbed the ball, did a somersault and went in for a layup. Broke the game open. Legend has it that Dougherty had to pee and lost his concentration. The game ended in the 20s or 30s for both teams. Standing room only crowd.

After that game, the NCAA adopted the rule about advancing the ball in so many seconds. They widened the lane under the basket so you could not stand under it forever. Newell became, IMO, the best college coach EVER. He owned Wooden. Russell became the most dominant player in the NBA.

Everyone else has covered the games very well. My two big recollections other than games were going in as a scared freshmen in the fall of 59 and Registration was in Harmon. Walking down the stairs of Harmon with my mind on class selection, I was hauled aside by two to three very tall guys. Well, they stood on the stairs, had a tape on the wall on the side opposite them and pulled you aside if you covered the tape. My first and last offer to go out for Crew. Afraid to do so with an objective of dental school it is one of the things I really regret about not doing. I wound up living with 2 crew members and spent many fun Saturdays on the Estuary at the old boat house. I won't ever forget Oregon State after crossing the finish line the cox steered a bad course and the entire port side hit the bridge pillars and were dumped like a bad "crab".

The other great memory was playing in and winning the Intramural championship in BB there against the fraternity winners Phi Tau. Playing three man "rat ball" against Joe Kapp while he was waiting for a contract to sign either in the old NFL or Canadian league. He was relentless and would dive into the push back bleachers to keep a ball from going out. One speed.

Harmon was great. Filled to the brim for every game back in the day.

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Also have to go with the Ransom game, especially because ge was LF jrs freshman coach at Berkeley.

This maybe weird but I have two favorite games that were losses. The first was when I was a student and Cal very nearly upset the Alcindor led UCLA squad. This may be a false memory but I recall "Tree" Johnson blocking one of Lew's shots.

My other one is Eddie House scoring 61 (I think). Been to a lot of games over 50 years but that was the most amazing performance.

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My favorite loss was Groundhog Day 1981. 5th ranked ASU came in with sophomore Byron Scott (in 83 the #4 overall draft pick in the NBA and a 14 year NBA career), senior Alton LIster (first round NBA draft pick in 81, 21st overall, a 17 year NBA career), junior Fat Lever (in 82 the 11th overall draft pick, a 12 year NBA career with 2 All-Star selections and his number retired by the Nuggets), and senior Sam Williams (second round NBA draft pick in 81, 33rd overall pick, a 4 year NBA career).

We knew these guys were good. Harmon was pretty packed, with the eternal optimists hopeful of a Bears win plus getting to see good team with a lot of future NBA talent.

And the Bears came out and played a good game, a game we definitely had our chances to win, losing in double OT 84-81.

There were guys that were fun to watch on that 80-81 Cal team. Michael Chavez, Mark McNamera, Michael Pitts, Kevin Singleton as a fifth year senior, Butch Hayes was a freshman, Wes Howell was in his first year as a JuCo transfer (it wasn't until the next year that new football coach Joe Kapp saw Howell on the basketball court and recruiting him to play football for a season, Howell's most important moment at Cal being his TD catch in the 82 Big Game).

The Bears only went 5-13 in conference, but played some tough games like the ASU game. The home loss to #6 ranked UCLA that year was only by 6. The home game against #2 Oregon St. was 4 days after the ASU loss, and the team seemed a little emotionally worn out, and lost by 15, but then came out the next night and beat Oregon. The Bears beat LSJU at home by 2 to open the conference season and had a 2 point OT win over USC.

No game that season, however, was as exciting and thrilling as the 2 OT loss to ASU, easily my "favorite moment" in a loss at Harmon/Haas.

I was fortunate to be at the 5OT game vs. Oregon in '77. With all the stuff that Ransom was doing, if I recall correctly the Bears were down by 2, with the ball, with seconds left in the third overtime when Gene drove to the center of the key and "teardropped" the ball in at the buzzer to send the game in to OT#4. As already mentioned in the fifth overtime freshman Kevin Singleton who was rarely used was the hero. I'm also pretty sure that between the two teams nine players fouled out, including Gene.

In more recent times 2 games stand out. The year we had Amit Tamir and were down 18 to Oregon last first half and won, I think it was in single overtime. And the "Jorge" game vs Stanfurd, again I think we were down 18 or 19, and in that one we actually won the game going away.

Cal8285 said:

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LudwigsFountain said:

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Also have to go with the Ransom game, especially because ge was LF jrs freshman coach at Berkeley.

This maybe weird but I have two favorite games that were losses. The first was when I was a student and Cal very nearly upset the Alcindor led UCLA squad. This may be a false memory but I recall "Tree" Johnson blocking one of Lew's shots.

My other one is Eddie House scoring 61 (I think). Been to a lot of games over 50 years but that was the most amazing performance.

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My favorite loss was Groundhog Day 1981. 5th ranked ASU came in with sophomore Byron Scott (in 83 the #4 overall draft pick in the NBA and a 14 year NBA career), senior Alton LIster (first round NBA draft pick in 81, 21st overall, a 17 year NBA career), junior Fat Lever (in 82 the 11th overall draft pick, a 12 year NBA career with 2 All-Star selections and his number retired by the Nuggets), and senior Sam Williams (second round NBA draft pick in 81, 33rd overall pick, a 4 year NBA career).

We knew these guys were good. Harmon was pretty packed, with the eternal optimists hopeful of a Bears win plus getting to see good team with a lot of future NBA talent.

And the Bears came out and played a good game, a game we definitely had our chances to win, losing in double OT 84-81.

There were guys that were fun to watch on that 80-81 Cal team. Michael Chavez, Mark McNamera, Michael Pitts, Kevin Singleton as a fifth year senior, Butch Hayes was a freshman, Wes Howell was in his first year as a JuCo transfer (it wasn't until the next year that new football coach Joe Kapp saw Howell on the basketball court and recruiting him to play football for a season, Howell's most important moment at Cal being his TD catch in the 82 Big Game).

The Bears only went 5-13 in conference, but played some tough games like the ASU game. The home loss to #6 ranked UCLA that year was only by 6. The home game against #2 Oregon St. was 4 days after the ASU loss, and the team seemed a little emotionally worn out, and lost by 15, but then came out the next night and beat Oregon. The Bears beat LSJU at home by 2 to open the conference season and had a 2 point OT win over USC.

No game that season, however, was as exciting and thrilling as the 2 OT loss to ASU, easily my "favorite moment" in a loss at Harmon/Haas.

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Great memory. Thanks.

During my freshman year in 1974, I swished a half court shot during halftime at the San Jose State game. I was the first time winner of the contest. I won two roundtrip tickets on P.S.A. and tickets for the UCLA and USC basketball games. Funny addition to this memory, just before I was presented with my award during halftime of the Stanford game at the end of the season, I was sitting behind a guy who was telling the two girls next to him that he won the contest by making a half court shot. Needless to say, it was fun to tap his shoulder to ask him to slide over so I could pick up my prize as the first time and only winner.

Unfortunately watching Eddie House torch us for 61 pts was most memorable. From that day forward my description of what I witnessed has been: "The guy was casting off from NBA 3 point range, then falling down to the court and NOTHING BUT NET!

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My favorite moment was more than 60 years ago, either 1955 or 1956. USF (NCAA champion) vs Cal. Newell knew he had little chance against Russell. Russell was going to stay under the basket and block anything that was close (and he had long arms). Newell put the center, Dougherty, at half court with the ball and told him to hold it until Russell came out. Russell never came out. I think Dougherty held it for 7 or 8 minutes at one stretch. KC Jones slapped the ball out out of his hands, grabbed the ball, did a somersault and went in for a layup. Broke the game open. Legend has it that Dougherty had to pee and lost his concentration. The game ended in the 20s or 30s for both teams. Standing room only crowd.

After that game, the NCAA adopted the rule about advancing the ball in so many seconds. They widened the lane under the basket so you could not stand under it forever. Newell became, IMO, the best college coach EVER. He owned Wooden. Russell became the most dominant player in the NBA.

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You got most of this right, and with all respect, a couple of corrections: First,the second-string center who held the ball for 8 minutes was Joe Hagler. You may have been thinking of Dick Doughty, who was the second-string center on Cal's '59 NCAA champion team, and on Cal's '60 NCAA Runnerup team. I don't think Doughty had yet arrived at Cal in 1956.

To be accurate, I think Newell came to own Wooden, winning their last 8 matchups, but prior to that Wooden had the upper hand. They first faced each other in December of 1948 when Newell was coaching at USF, and UCLA won that game over Newell's USF team that would go on to finish the season as 1949 National Champions of the NIT. In the 1949-50 season Newell would get his first victory over Wooden. They did not face each other again until 1952 and 1953, when Newell was coach of Michigan State, and Wooden won both of those games. Newell then came to Cal in 1954, and Wooden and UCLA defeated Newell and Cal in their first 7 meetings, so that Wooden at that point had 9 straight wins and 10 wins over all against Newell at USF and Michigan State, to only a single win by Newell. Newell finally beat Wooden for his second win in their rivalry in 1957. Newell would go on to win the next 7 games, or 8 wins in a row over Wooden. The final tally for Wooden at UCLA and Newell at USF, Michigan State, and Cal was Wooden 10 wins, and Newell 9 wins. But Newell was dominant over the last 4 years of their matchups.

Finally, I remember an interview on TV with Russell and Chamberlain, where Russell said that Chamberlain was the most dominant player in the NBA, as no one could stop Wilt. Russell said he was only able to slow him down sometimes, or keep him below his average. Wilt replied that Russell was the better player, because he made his teammates better, while Wilt said his own teammates made him better.

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Can't argue with Breaking-the-Streak-vs-UCLA or beating #1 Arizona in the last seconds, so I will throw a different one into the mix just to add some variety:

Cal beats Oregon in 5 overtimes at Harmon, 1977. Cal's Gene Ransom goes for 36, the Duck's Greg Ballard for 43(?).

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That Oregon game for me. I was exhausted. Can't imagine how tired the players must have been.

Wasn't at the streak breaker or the AZ game, just saw on tv so not the same.

Winning the Pac under Montgomery was good, as was the Stanford game Jorge's freshman year when he laid waste to their offense in the second half.

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Big C said:

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Can't argue with Breaking-the-Streak-vs-UCLA or beating #1 Arizona in the last seconds, so I will throw a different one into the mix just to add some variety:

Cal beats Oregon in 5 overtimes at Harmon, 1977. Cal's Gene Ransom goes for 36, the Duck's Greg Ballard for 43(?).

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My roommate at the time wandered over to Harmon near the end of the game and ended up staying and hanging out for the equivilent of a whole nother game through 5 overtimes.


p.s. my roomie that year went to more game than me and I remember him telling me about Cal stomping (I think?) on the Furds and "Sugar" Ray Murray going off for lots of dunks and points. Can anyone corroborate this memory....

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Yeah, Cal scored 101 and Murry had 41. Harmon was LOUD that day.

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During my freshman year in 1974, I swished a half court shot during halftime at the San Jose State game. I was the first time winner of the contest. I won two roundtrip tickets on P.S.A. and tickets for the UCLA and USC basketball games. Funny addition to this memory, just before I was presented with my award during halftime of the Stanford game at the end of the season, I was sitting behind a guy who was telling the two girls next to him that he won the contest by making a half court shot. Needless to say, it was fun to tap his shoulder to ask him to slide over so I could pick up my prize as the first time and only winner.

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Very cool story. I always dreamed of getting called to participate in one of those contests. I always took some half-court shots as part of my daily practice routine, but it never happened. Now I don't have the strength to reach the rim.

I remember once when I was living in DC, Earl Monroe was a rookie playing for the Baltimore Bullets, and my roommate and I heard that the Bullets were having a lot of trouble drawing fans, so they had a promo of a half court shot at halftime for a trip to Hawaii for two. The participants would be chosen in a drawing of numbers in the programs. So we put on our basketball shoes and headed to Baltimore. They got just over 1000 fans in attendance, so we figured the odds were good that we might get picked, and we each bought about 10 programs, but alas, our numbers were not called. Someone actually made the shot and won. As a consolation give away, the Bullets tossed dozens of basketballs into the stands, but we were not lucky there either. The night was not a total loss, however, as we got to see one of the all-time greats, Earl the Pearl drop 40 points on a dazzling array of moves and fakes and feints, mostly resulting in buckets in the lane or layups against much bigger players.

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I was fortunate to be at the 5OT game vs. Oregon in '77. With all the stuff that Ransom was doing, if I recall correctly the Bears were down by 2, with the ball, with seconds left in the third overtime when Gene drove to the center of the key and "teardropped" the ball in at the buzzer to send the game in to OT#4. As already mentioned in the fifth overtime freshman Kevin Singleton who was rarely used was the hero. I'm also pretty sure that between the two teams nine players fouled out, including Gene.

In more recent times 2 games stand out. The year we had Amit Tamir and were down 18 to Oregon last first half and won, I think it was in single overtime. And the "Jorge" game vs Stanfurd, again I think we were down 18 or 19, and in that one we actually won the game going away.

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I'd forgotten about the Tamir game. That was crazy good. Luke Jackson had 30 or something for Oregon iirc.

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TOC, McClymonds Oakland against Berkeley HS. Nate Williams vs Phil Chenier. So long ago, I can't remember who won. I think the Yellow Jackets. Total shootout.

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I looked it up, and you are right on all points. Must have been quite a game. It was a semi-final matchup in the Championship Bracket, won by Berkeley, 78-63, led by future Cal star Chenier's 42 points, a single game TOC record for points and field goals (18). Williams scored 20 points for McClymonds.

Wilson won the TOC championship that year, led by Larry Haren and future Cal star, Ansley Truitt (19 rebounds in the championship game). Chenier set the TOC 3-game record with 82 points, and set the TOC career scoring record with 164 points. Both Chenier and Truitt made the All-TOC team, along with Nate Williams.

Most of the TOC history is here: http://www.weebly.com/uploads/3/0/9/7/30972031/tochistory.pdf

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NVBear78 said:

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Big C said:

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Can't argue with Breaking-the-Streak-vs-UCLA or beating #1 Arizona in the last seconds, so I will throw a different one into the mix just to add some variety:

Cal beats Oregon in 5 overtimes at Harmon, 1977. Cal's Gene Ransom goes for 36, the Duck's Greg Ballard for 43(?).

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My roommate at the time wandered over to Harmon near the end of the game and ended up staying and hanging out for the equivilent of a whole nother game through 5 overtimes.


p.s. my roomie that year went to more game than me and I remember him telling me about Cal stomping (I think?) on the Furds and "Sugar" Ray Murray going off for lots of dunks and points. Can anyone corroborate this memory....

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Yeah, Cal scored 101 and Murry had 41. Harmon was LOUD that day.

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Ray Murray: There's a player I hadn't thought about for awhile! I doubt he had "lots of" dunks, but I seem to remember one, which would've brought the house down, as he was not a high flyer.

For those Bears who don't go that far back, Murray was 6'5" and maybe 220 and it wasn't all muscle. I wanna say he was a JC transfer and his senior year, he really began to light it up over the course of the season, culminating in that 41 point game. He put a lot of arc on his jump shots -- maybe the most I've ever seen -- and his last several games for Cal, they were just dropping straight through the net. And this was before the 3-pt shot, right?