CalBears/com Headline: WBB Bears Come Up Short Against Cardinal

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SFCityBear
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Lady Bears come up short? Really? The score was Stanford 83, and Cal 38.

I wish the press and the fans would cut the Cal men's basketball team the same kind of slack. Something like "Cal Men's Basketball team blows out USF with perfectly executed game-long strategy, ending in setting up Makale Foreman for the clinching three near the end." Or something like that.
NVBear78
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Can someone explain why the women have no wins? I thought they had a top rated recruiting class coming in with a couple of five star recruits???
Bobodeluxe
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There are five stars, and then there are five stars. Also, Cal.
stu
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The Cal women had four players out with injuries, all guards. We started a freshie combo guard, a walk-on small forward, a freshie combo forward, a soph power forward, and a freshie post. Our bench was two freshie posts and one walk-on guard/forward with a back injury. And these are December freshies, deer in the headlights who didn't even get proper preseason practice. BTW Stanford is the #1 women's basketball team in the country. Stanford's Fran Belibi even dunked on a breakaway.

So it wasn't pretty but we player hard for 40 minutes and looked decent inside. Our telling stats were 23% shooting and 33 turnovers.
SFCityBear
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stu said:

The Cal women had four players out with injuries, all guards. We started a freshie combo guard, a walk-on small forward, a freshie combo forward, a soph power forward, and a freshie post. Our bench was two freshie posts and one walk-on guard/forward with a back injury. And these are December freshies, deer in the headlights who didn't even get proper preseason practice. BTW Stanford is the #1 women's basketball team in the country. Stanford's Fran Belibi even dunked on a breakaway.

So it wasn't pretty but we player hard for 40 minutes and looked decent inside. Our telling stats were 23% shooting and 33 turnovers.
Ouch. This hurts. Especially the stats you gave.

Why all the injuries? Is the women's game rougher with more contact than the men's game?
stu
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Why all the injuries? Is the women's game rougher with more contact than the men's game?
Two guards were injured and out for the season before we played our first game. One was a foot injury, the other I don't know. A third guard tore her ACL near the end of her first game and is out for the season. A fourth guard is out for an indeterminate time with a concussion suffered in practice.

I've heard women have a higher incidence of knee injuries than men but I don't know why. Maybe training techniques haven't been adapted to women, dunno. I saw the ACL injury on TV, it was on a lateral defensive movement with no contact.

To put the lineup in perspective consider this roughly comparable Cal men's lineup:
PG: Klonaras or Brandon Smith
SG: McCullough
SF: Bird (as an early-season freshie)
PF: Kelley (as a soph)
C: Vanover (as an early-season freshie)
Bench: Winston or Hamilton, Thorpe (as an early-season freshie), Lee (as an early-season freshie)

Then put them against the #1 men's team in the country.

SFCALBear72
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SFCityBear said:

Lady Bears come up short? Really? The score was Stanford 83, and Cal 38.

I wish the press and the fans would cut the Cal men's basketball team the same kind of slack. Something like "Cal Men's Basketball team blows out USF with perfectly executed game-long strategy, ending in setting up Makale Foreman for the clinching three near the end." Or something like that.


Fyi. They are not the Lady Bears. That's Baylor.
Cal WBB is preferred reference. Or California Women's Basketball. Or California Golden Bears like other sports teams.
SFCityBear
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SFCALBear72 said:

SFCityBear said:

Lady Bears come up short? Really? The score was Stanford 83, and Cal 38.

I wish the press and the fans would cut the Cal men's basketball team the same kind of slack. Something like "Cal Men's Basketball team blows out USF with perfectly executed game-long strategy, ending in setting up Makale Foreman for the clinching three near the end." Or something like that.


Fyi. They are not the Lady Bears. That's Baylor.
Cal WBB is preferred reference. Or California Women's Basketball. Or California Golden Bears like other sports teams.
I am totally ignorant when it comes to women's sports. Closest I ever came to it was when I sometimes played mixed doubles in tennis. Entered the City Championships with my future girlfriend, and we got blown out in the first round by the eventual champions, Nick and Gerry Carter. My partner played much better than I did. She was great. Anyway, thanks for the correction.
Big C
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I was curious about this, too. Stu, how do the first-year players look who were the 4-5 star recruits?
stu
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Big C said:


I was curious about this, too. Stu, how do the first-year players look who were the 4-5 star recruits?
From very limited observation I'd say:

Dalayah Daniels was a five-star recruit. She's long (6-3) and has a great skill set. I think her natural position is SF but could also be stretch PF (where she hasn't played due to our current lack of guards). Right now I can see the talent but I think she's trying to do too much by herself. I expect her to be all-conference when she's better acclimated to the college game and her teammates recover from injuries and/or gain experience.

Michelle Onyiah was a four-star recruit. She reminds many people of Gennifer Brandon with her motor, quickness, and jumping. She's a little raw but great on the offensive boards and able to defend on the perimeter and even on the press. I think at this time her game is less constrained by what others may not be doing well. I expect her to develop into a superb PF.

Fatou Samb was a four-star recruit. She has good strength and skills, reminds me of Talia Caldwell. She's looked a little more comfortable every game and I expect her to be a solid center.

Sela Heide was a four-star recruit. She has great length (6-7) and while she's not a great athlete she shows maturity and prior good coaching. In limited minutes she's been effective against a variety of opponents. I think she'll be a center who gives opponents matchup problems at both ends.

Alma Elsnitz was unranked coming from Sweden. She's probably a combo guard. In her only game she looked strong and intense and displayed a wide variety of skills but tore an ACL and is out for the season. The coaches said she was the freshie most ready to play right away. I think she'll be a very good guard when healthy.

Ornela Muca was unranked coming from Greece. She also looks like a combo guard. At this time she doesn't seem as strong or as ready to play as Alma but she's been thrown into the deep end as our only remaining scholarship guard. She's reputed to be a good shooter but hasn't been able to get decent shots playing at college speed with our depleted team. Her defense also needs work. At this point I can't tell if she'll be a role player or more.
smh
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bearinsider also has a (less visited) women's basketball bbs aswell..
https://bearinsider.com/forums/4
# go bears
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