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And the award ,( by a landslide) aided by ballot harvesting and hundreds of mail-in-ballots trucked in by another State with no return address , goes to Monty and Roxy...Roxy provides decent coverage masquerading as play-by-play as well as a foil to Montys rapier wit and excellent, balanced game analysis. monty does not play favorites. He points out the strengths and weaknesses of both teams and well as to what each team should be doing in order to maximize their chances of winning. He'a a sarcastic bugger; but, he has earned the right to be sarcastic.

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Something we can agree on...

Go xCoach Monte and thrive.

I am also a huge fan of Don MacLean* because his wit reminds me of Brad Duggan's color work on KTVU in the 1980's (with Steve Physioc on play by play).



*Duggan's comments were Bill Murray-esq...but with lots of hoop knowledge.

*I believe Don still holds the league most points scored record (he averaged 20 points a game for 4 years)

helltopay1 said:

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And the award ,( by a landslide) aided by ballot harvesting and hundreds of mail-in-ballots trucked in by another State with no return address , goes to Monty and Roxy...Roxy provides decent coverage masquerading as play-by-play as well as a foil to Montys rapier wit and excellent, balanced game analysis. monty does not play favorites. He points out the strengths and weaknesses of both teams and well as to what each team should be doing in order to maximize their chances of winning. He'a a sarcastic bugger; but, he has earned the right to be sarcastic.

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Ted Robinson and Bill Walton have to be a very close second.

Monty is #1, just like he was #1 in post game interviews... at least if you want real info and insight

Monty also said that "every team needs three (3) point guard's.." I can count to three, and, we don't have three point guards. Ted Robinson is competent: but, for some reason, he annoys me. Bill Walton should have been shipped to a nursing Home years ago. His shtick is 50% silly, 10% nostalgia, 5% drug hallucinations, 10% poseur, and 25% basketball. He surpassed his sell-buy date decades ago.

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I am also a huge fan of Don MacLean* because his wit reminds me of Brad Duggan's color work on KTVU in the 1980's (with Steve Physioc on play by play).



*Duggan's comments were Bill Murray-esq...but with lots of hoop knowledge.

*I believe Don still holds the league most points scored record (he averaged 20 points a game for 4 years)"

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"In the NBA, a player going in for a layup looks like he is on a bicycle"..........Brad Duggan on the lack of traveling calls in the League.

"Pros are punks".........Brad Duggan

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I am also a huge fan of Don MacLean* because his wit reminds me of Brad Duggan's color work on KTVU in the 1980's (with Steve Physioc on play by play).



*Duggan's comments were Bill Murray-esq...but with lots of hoop knowledge.

*I believe Don still holds the league most points scored record (he averaged 20 points a game for 4 years)

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Hated MacLean when he played at FUCLA (largely because he would kill us) and so then was surprised that he's good now.

Monty-the-color-guy is to Braun-the-color-guy as Monty-the-coach was to Braun-the-coach.

Rarely have the sound up for sports these days, but the the Roxy-Montgomery duo is hard to beat.
Roxy clearly does his homework on every player and has material going back years.
Some "edgy/out-of-the-box" television producer guy thinks Walton is good. Few others do.

"The game itself hasn't changed, but the quality of coaching and playing has gone way down. There are too many guys coaching who aren't capable of teaching a first-grader how to open a carton of chocolate milk." Brad Duggan, 2002

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"The game itself hasn't changed, but the quality of coaching and playing has gone way down. There are too many guys coaching who aren't capable of teaching a first-grader how to open a carton of chocolate milk." Brad Duggan, 2002

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For a few years, Cal was so unwatchable for me that I stopped going to games, and I went to CCSF games instead. The gym was about 10 minutes from my house and parking was a snap. The coach was Brad Duggan. His Rams won the conference title every year, and won the state title one of those years. He was a terrific coach, not only producing winning teams but especially in tailoring his offense to utilize the strengths of his players. If he had players who were fast and could shoot well, he had them fast break with most every possession. Scores were in the 100s, and they blew teams out. When he had slower players who were good defenders, he ran a half court offense with lots of plays and beat most teams easily.

Duggan was like a father with his players. He treated all of them with respect, and they loved him, even when he had to discipline a player. I remember one game where a player made a mistake on defense a couple of times. Duggan called time out, and started screaming at the player, using a lot of colorful language (maybe one of the reasons why Duggan never landed the Cal job). When Duggan was finished, the player went sheepishly down to the end of the bench to sulk. Duggan yelled at him again to get back into the huddle and listen to the play he was calling. He put him right back in the game. Duggan was a close friend of Bobby Knight, and they talked often. Duggan sent some of his players on to play in 4-year colleges, and one of his players started for a Bobby Knight Indiana team which won the NCAA, I believe. He always taught players that they would not be playing basketball forever, and they had to think about what they would do for a living. He talked with most or all of them for years after they graduated to be sure they were doing OK.

I often arrived at the gym before the game started. While the players were getting dressed, Duggan would come out and work his way around the stands, stopping to talk with his former players and all the parents and relatives of players past and present who had come to see the game. It seemed like the whole nearby neighborhood was there. Duggan finally stopped coaching and became CCSF's Athletic Director. He may still be at CCSF, helping out in some capacity. I think he was very happy doing what he was doing at CCSF.

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AunBear89 said:

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It happened again: helltopay found the keyboard his grandchildren hid from him. "Only old people are allowed to complain about politics. Everyone else: stay in your lane."

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It wasn't his grandchildren who hid the keyboard. It was the moderators who took it away from him briefly. If only they would have the same rules for the Left leaning fans, who outnumber helltopay1 on this board about 100 to 1, and say pretty much whatever they want in this forum,

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I was going to chime in from the left but I think HTP gets more of a senior allowance than I do.

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bearister said:

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"The game itself hasn't changed, but the quality of coaching and playing has gone way down. There are too many guys coaching who aren't capable of teaching a first-grader how to open a carton of chocolate milk." Brad Duggan, 2002

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For a few years, Cal was so unwatchable for me that I stopped going to games, and I went to CCSF games instead. The gym was about 10 minutes from my house and parking was a snap. The coach was Brad Duggan. His Rams won the conference title every year, and won the state title one of those years. He was a terrific coach, not only producing winning teams but especially in tailoring his offense to utilize the strengths of his players. If he had players who were fast and could shoot well, he had them fast break with most every possession. Scores were in the 100s, and they blew teams out. When he had slower players who were good defenders, he ran a half court offense with lots of plays and beat most teams easily.

Duggan was like a father with his players. He treated all of them with respect, and they loved him, even when he had to discipline a player. I remember one game where a player made a mistake on defense a couple of times. Duggan called time out, and started screaming at the player, using a lot of colorful language (maybe one of the reasons why Duggan never landed the Cal job). When Duggan was finished, the player went sheepishly down to the end of the bench to sulk. Duggan yelled at him again to get back into the huddle and listen to the play he was calling. He put him right back in the game. Duggan was a close friend of Bobby Knight, and they talked often. Duggan sent some of his players on to play in 4-year colleges, and one of his players started for a Bobby Knight Indiana team which won the NCAA, I believe. He always taught players that they would not be playing basketball forever, and they had to think about what they would do for a living. He talked with most or all of them for years after they graduated to be sure they were doing OK.

I often arrived at the gym before the game started. While the players were getting dressed, Duggan would come out and work his way around the stands, stopping to talk with his former players and all the parents and relatives of players past and present who had come to see the game. It seemed like the whole nearby neighborhood was there. Duggan finally stopped coaching and became CCSF's Athletic Director. He may still be at CCSF, helping out in some capacity. I think he was very happy doing what he was doing at CCSF.

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The CCSF player was Dean Garrett...I saw him play several times...

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SFCityBear said:

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bearister said:

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"The game itself hasn't changed, but the quality of coaching and playing has gone way down. There are too many guys coaching who aren't capable of teaching a first-grader how to open a carton of chocolate milk." Brad Duggan, 2002

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For a few years, Cal was so unwatchable for me that I stopped going to games, and I went to CCSF games instead. The gym was about 10 minutes from my house and parking was a snap. The coach was Brad Duggan. His Rams won the conference title every year, and won the state title one of those years. He was a terrific coach, not only producing winning teams but especially in tailoring his offense to utilize the strengths of his players. If he had players who were fast and could shoot well, he had them fast break with most every possession. Scores were in the 100s, and they blew teams out. When he had slower players who were good defenders, he ran a half court offense with lots of plays and beat most teams easily.

Duggan was like a father with his players. He treated all of them with respect, and they loved him, even when he had to discipline a player. I remember one game where a player made a mistake on defense a couple of times. Duggan called time out, and started screaming at the player, using a lot of colorful language (maybe one of the reasons why Duggan never landed the Cal job). When Duggan was finished, the player went sheepishly down to the end of the bench to sulk. Duggan yelled at him again to get back into the huddle and listen to the play he was calling. He put him right back in the game. Duggan was a close friend of Bobby Knight, and they talked often. Duggan sent some of his players on to play in 4-year colleges, and one of his players started for a Bobby Knight Indiana team which won the NCAA, I believe. He always taught players that they would not be playing basketball forever, and they had to think about what they would do for a living. He talked with most or all of them for years after they graduated to be sure they were doing OK.

I often arrived at the gym before the game started. While the players were getting dressed, Duggan would come out and work his way around the stands, stopping to talk with his former players and all the parents and relatives of players past and present who had come to see the game. It seemed like the whole nearby neighborhood was there. Duggan finally stopped coaching and became CCSF's Athletic Director. He may still be at CCSF, helping out in some capacity. I think he was very happy doing what he was doing at CCSF.

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The CCSF player was Dean Garrett...I saw him play several times...

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You're right. Thanks for that.