It's funny because I thought the same thing viewing online games. Cavanaugh looked like she had a better handle, was quicker, better shooter. Was confused why she was ranked so high

She was rated lower by Hoopgurlz #17 and even lower by FullCourt's (early) rankings at #38. IIRC, her ranking went up after committing to UConn. Likely not a coincidence. IIRC, she committed to UConn before Gabby Williams and Kia Nurse committed. Both are off to great starts for UConn. Had they committed before Edwards, Geno probably would not have pursued her.

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She was rated lower by Hoopgurlz #17 and even lower by FullCourt's (early) rankings at #38. IIRC, her ranking went up after committing to UConn. Likely not a coincidence. IIRC, she committed to UConn before Gabby Williams and Kia Nurse committed. Both are off to great starts for UConn. Had they committed before Edwards, Geno probably would not have pursued her.

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Funny thing is HG/Olsen's tends to have certain players way lower/higher than the 3 other services. Sometimes he's right, other times hes wrong. I guess he may be right in this situation. I don't think thats the reason her ranking is high though, if so, Ekmark would be a lot higher in some services. Remember, Geno offered the Samuelson sisters, Englen, Gorecki, Peyton Little, etc in the past. So, its not like he only offers top rated kids. Plus Edwards had offers from Louisville, Kentucky, Tennessee, etc.

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Funny thing is HG/Olsen's tends to have certain players way lower/higher than the 3 other services. Sometimes he's right, other times hes wrong. I guess he may be right in this situation. I don't think thats the reason her ranking is high though, if so, Ekmark would be a lot higher in some services. Remember, Geno offered the Samuelson sisters, Englen, Gorecki, Peyton Little, etc in the past. So, its not like he only offers top rated kids. Plus Edwards had offers from Louisville, Kentucky, Tennessee, etc.

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Speaking of Ekmark, I doubt she is going to ever get the play time at UConn. I also cant see her wanting to ride the pines for 4 years. Perhaps if she does decide to leave she would fit Cals needs for an outside shooter.

bearinsocal;842429832 said:

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Funny thing is HG/Olsen's tends to have certain players way lower/higher than the 3 other services. Sometimes he's right, other times hes wrong. I guess he may be right in this situation. I don't think thats the reason her ranking is high though, if so, Ekmark would be a lot higher in some services. Remember, Geno offered the Samuelson sisters, Englen, Gorecki, Peyton Little, etc in the past. So, its not like he only offers top rated kids. Plus Edwards had offers from Louisville, Kentucky, Tennessee, etc.

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The Geno comment is dead on. He doesn't really care about ratings, and often not even film. Supposedly he infuriated his coaching staff by offering what was thought to be un-athletic Stefanie Dolson, as opposed to five star center who was ready to say yes as soon as offered. He was impressed by Dolson's play when he was actually there to watch other players. He loved Dolson's hustle, and her willingness as a big to run the floor. She got the offer.

I guess Geno got that one right (though it helps to have Briana Stewart as your other big). He does sorta recruit to a system and personality, but he isn't as bad as Patino, who is incredibly restrictive in who he recruits in that regard.

Dolson was ranked in the top 10 when the Hoopgurlz rankings for 2010 debuted. She fell later on. Stokes was also high (#11, IIRC) when her class rankings debuted then fell.

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Speaking of Ekmark, I doubt she is going to ever get the play time at UConn. I also cant see her wanting to ride the pines for 4 years. Perhaps if she does decide to leave she would fit Cals needs for an outside shooter.

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Yeah, especially with Katie Lou and Collier coming in next year (who are natural Wings, though I can see them playing some 4), and looking like Gabby Williams is a 3/4 instead of the 1/2 she was projected coming out of HS. Ekmark really is strictly a 3 (I can't see her guarding 2's). I liked what I've seen from Ekmark in HS though. Very high iq, good passer, great shooter. She would help us a lot.

Not really a transfer but this seemed like the right topic to put this in.
At the end of the Oregon vs USC game yesterday the announcer on the Pac12 broadcast, mentioned that Kiki Alofaituli, for USC, has taken a leave of absence from USC for personal reasons.
I had heard she is done playing there. However, the door may still be open for her return if its called a "leave" vs departure from the program.
So far, since the summer, the following players are no longer with USC, either on their own or asked to leave.
Calhoun
Crook
Gibbs
Butler
Alofaituli.
USC now down to 10 players who dress.

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Not really a transfer but this seemed like the right topic to put this in.
At the end of the Oregon vs USC game yesterday the announcer on the Pac12 broadcast, mentioned that Kiki Alofaituli, for USC, has taken a leave of absence from USC for personal reasons.
I had heard she is done playing there. However, the door may still be open for her return if its called a "leave" vs departure from the program.
So far, since the summer, the following players are no longer with USC, either on their own or asked to leave.
Calhoun
Crook
Gibbs
Butler
Alofaituli.
USC now down to 10 players who dress.

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How many on scholarship for SC? Cal has ten, without walk-ons. I'd imagine the talent level really drops off if you have to use non-scholarship players, although Ucla got by last year doing that when they had the injury bug.

So what is the word Iminoc? You said last spring you were going to tell us.

Somewhat OT - does anyone know if we are looking for a graduate transfer next year? Such a player would be eligible immediately and could bring needed experience to our lineup.

Cal will graduate four and is bringing in four new recruits next season, correct? This still nets an inadequate ten players on the roster...Is there an chance that the Bears bring in someone in the late signing period for 2015? Why not grab a juco outside shooter like so many teams have done...GO BEARS!

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Cal will graduate four and is bringing in four new recruits next season, correct? This still nets an inadequate ten players on the roster...Is there an chance that the Bears bring in someone in the late signing period for 2015? Why not grab a juco outside shooter like so many teams have done...GO BEARS!

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Five recruits coming in for a total roster of eleven next year.

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So what is the word Iminoc? You said last spring you were going to tell us.

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I have spoke to some people who advised me not to mention too much.

And who was that? The USC mafia?

Thank you for the correction! Two posts, two guards and a wing. GO BEARS!

It has never bothered you in the past. Why now?

Calvert and Okonkwo have left USC.
Returning roster down to 6
2 freshman incoming, plus UConn transfer Edwards available for conference play.

Yet they keep the coach. Does Rueck have a twin brother available ? Maybe I should ask if Lavonda Wagoner has a twin sister?

http://www.fullcourt.com/ncaa/25332/two-freshman-transfer-university-southern-california

Something is wrong down there. Maybe the coach, but maybe there is another major reason. I will say that Cooper doesn't seem to stay in one place any too long.

Edwards will go against her former prep school teammate, Cavanaugh, when the toejams face the Bears.

Bobbie K reported on the UCLA Forum that Recee Caldwell is looking to transfer from the Bruins.

[COLOR="#0000CD"]@macsmith413: UCLA G Recee Caldwell has requested a transfer from the Bruin program. Caldwell missed last two months of season with knee injury. #espnW[/COLOR]

One of three Bruins to play in the 2014 McDonald's All-American game ... made the USA Basketball Women's U18 National Team and started every game for the Americans, winning gold at the 2014 FIBA Americas Championship in August in Colorado Springs, Colo. ... was also on the Team USA U16 squad with Jordin Canada that won a gold medal

Caldwell was ranked as one of the Top 10 players in the country by most recruiting services including No. 6 by Prospects Nation, No. 7 by PB Media, No. 9 by ESPN’s HoopGurlz and No. 19 by Full Court ... also ranked near the top in the point guard rankings, coming in as the No. 2 rated PG by PB Media, the No. 3 rated PG by HoopGurlz and Prospects Nation and the No. 5 PG by Full Court ...

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Bobbie K reported on the UCLA Forum that Recee Caldwell is looking to transfer from the Bruins.

[COLOR="#0000CD"]@macsmith413: UCLA G Recee Caldwell has requested a transfer from the Bruin program. Caldwell missed last two months of season with knee injury. #espnW[/COLOR]

One of three Bruins to play in the 2014 McDonald's All-American game ... made the USA Basketball Women's U18 National Team and started every game for the Americans, winning gold at the 2014 FIBA Americas Championship in August in Colorado Springs, Colo. ... was also on the Team USA U16 squad with Jordin Canada that won a gold medal

Caldwell was ranked as one of the Top 10 players in the country by most recruiting services including No. 6 by Prospects Nation, No. 7 by PB Media, No. 9 by ESPN's HoopGurlz and No. 19 by Full Court ... also ranked near the top in the point guard rankings, coming in as the No. 2 rated PG by PB Media, the No. 3 rated PG by HoopGurlz and Prospects Nation and the No. 5 PG by Full Court ...

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Really not that surprise. I think at the time I predicted someone would transfer because of the over abundance of PGs!!

OBear073akaSMFan;842507126 said:

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Really not that surprise. I think at the time I predicted someone would transfer because of the over abundance of PGs!!

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Another example of why you can't just stockpile talent on the bench. At most, eight or nine people can get meaningful playing time on a good team.

You knew Jordin Canada was the PG, and she plays a lot of minutes. What minutes are left?

On the bench? When both were healthy, Caldwell missed the 2nd half of the season, Caldwell averaged 25 minutes per game.

I always felt Caldwell was overrated and that she wouldn't beat out Canada. Still, she's a good player and will help someone.

Though they only would overlap 1 yr, wherever R. Caldwell lands might be considered a favorite for her little sister who is ranked #6 for 2018 at this point and will play PG for the U16 team. Recall R. Caldwell originally committed to Baylor early on.

OBear073akaSMFan;842507126 said:

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Really not that surprise. I think at the time I predicted someone would transfer because of the over abundance of PGs!!

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I think what's surprising is that Caldwell was the one reported to have helped convince Canada to go to UCLA. There were definitely plenty of minutes left for Caldwell, who was in their top 5 for mpg before she got hurt.

The question of PG and how the defined roles play out is a different question.... They had played together for USA basketball so had at least a glimpse of what co-existing might be like before they got to UCLA.

If you recall, I am not a fan of the UCLA head coach. And I like her a lot more than I do Mulkey! Caldwell has made her mistakes in choosing schools, but you have to say this. She is not shy about pulling the trigger to rectify them.

IMHO, she will find what she is looking for in a school. She'd probably be happy here in Berkeley, but does she fit into LG's Plan for the Future? Lindsay's call. Certainly not mine or anyone posting here. Her staff will have her ear, but that is their function. I think she would bring a lot to the Bears. We don't have anyone like her now unless it's the new guard from O'Dowd, but Caldwell is a much better shooter. Will Close let her transfer within the PAC12 or does Caldwell want to go back to Texas?

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If you recall, I am not a fan of the UCLA head coach. And I like her a lot more than I do Mulkey! Caldwell has made her mistakes in choosing schools, but you have to say this. She is not shy about pulling the trigger to rectify them.

IMHO, she will find what she is looking for in a school. She'd probably be happy here in Berkeley, but does she fit into LG's Plan for the Future? Lindsay's call. Certainly not mine or anyone posting here. Her staff will have her ear, but that is their function. I think she would bring a lot to the Bears. We don't have anyone like her now unless it's the new guard from O'Dowd, but Caldwell is a much better shooter. Will Close let her transfer within the PAC12 or does Caldwell want to go back to Texas?

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I'm hearing that she will not be released within the Pac12, and possibly more. You often hear players wanting to be closer to home given as a reason for transferring -- though I haven't seen that reported in Caldwell's case. While it's not that uncommon for schools to restrict transfers within their conference, if UCLA is refusing to release her to outside schools as well that's a different story.

Remember when everyone was worried UCLA would overtake Cal?

Not going to happen. They won the WNIT. So what? And mind you, I I thought the same thing when Cal won, it is a consolation prize at best. Caldwell now out. I hope UCLA finds greener pastures at some point but it won't be with CC

No surprise about not being released within the conference -- that's pretty much SOP. But if Close restricts Caldwell's transferring options outside the Pac-12, it will hurt her down the road with future recruits.