annarborbear;842409201 said:

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This is the second game in a row where 100% of our points came from our top six players. I hope in some easier games coming up we can start to try to work in at least some scoring contribution from other people.

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I'm hoping we can develop Penina as a 7th regular contributor.

I flew home today after witnessing the Big Game debacle and decided to go to the WBB game to get rid of the bad taste in my mouth. Here are my non-expert comments: Regarding Brittany's shooting stats, about half of her misses came on good looks when she drove to the basket but the ball wouldn't drop. She was instrumental in our pressing defense forcing numerous turnovers, steals, and charging fouls on the opposing guards. In addition, most of Reshanda Gray's FGs came on perfectly-placed entry passes from Brittany. Mikayla Cowling was our best 3-point shooter tonight, and she also drove for another basket and hit a couple of mid-range shots. Things to work on from tonight: better FT shooting, blocking out on rebounds, and having another big to back up for Reshanda.

I sat with Mikayla's parents as well as Gabby Green's mom and aunt and had a great time!

:cheer:gobears::cheer

stu;842409205 said:

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I'm hoping we can develop Penina as a 7th regular contributor.

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They need to find a go-to move for her where she can at least get to the line.

SanseiBear;842409212 said:

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I flew home today after witnessing the Big Game debacle and decided to go to the WBB game to get rid of the bad taste in my mouth. Here are my non-expert comments: Regarding Brittany's shooting stats, about half of her misses came on good looks when she drove to the basket but the ball wouldn't drop. She was instrumental in our pressing defense forcing numerous turnovers, steals, and charging fouls on the opposing guards. In addition, most of Reshanda Gray's FGs came on perfectly-placed inlet passes from Brittany. Mikayla Cowling was our best 3-point shooter tonight, and she also drove for another basket and hit a couple of mid-range shots. Things to work on from tonight: better FT shooting, blocking out on rebounds, and having another big to back up for Reshanda.

I sat with Mikayla's parents as well as Gabby Green's mom and aunt and had a great time!

:cheer:gobears::cheer

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Thanks for the first-hand report. Everybody here is a Boyd fan. She has always been the ultimate warrior, and always fills up a stat sheet in valuable ways. In our Final Four year, she was a very valuable player, but did not always have the ball in her hands, and was not the team leader. That was Layshia Clarendon. Last year, with Layshia gone, Brittany tried to win games by herself too often through most of the season. However, at the end, she overcame that tendency, and the team played better. She wants badly to be a great shooter, just like she excels at everything else, and has put countless hours to improve. But some people simply are not going to be great shooters, and need to contribute in other ways. We are all hoping some good balance can be achieved this year.

Totally agree, annarborbear!

http://hawaiiwarriorworld.com/rainbow-wahine-basketball/rainbow-wahine-classic-games-delayed/

annarborbear;842409224 said:

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Thanks for the first-hand report. Everybody here is a Boyd fan. She has always been the ultimate warrior, and always fills up a stat sheet in valuable ways. In our Final Four year, she was a very valuable player, but did not always have the ball in her hands, and was not the team leader. That was Layshia Clarendon. Last year, with Layshia gone, Brittany tried to win games by herself too often through most of the season. However, at the end, she overcame that tendency, and the team played better. She wants badly to be a great shooter, just like she excels at everything else, and has put countless hours to improve. But some people simply are not going to be great shooters, and need to contribute in other ways. We are all hoping some good balance can be achieved this year.

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+1

Brittany Boyd is a tremendous basketball player: tough, quick, strong, great passer, good competitor. She's just not a very good outside shooter ...

She'll be a top ten WNBA draft pick, and, barring disaster, should have a solid pro career.

If she could shoot, she'd have been on USA Basketball teams and would be looked at as a lottery pick. I know I'm often guilty of focusing too much on player's flaws and not on their strengths, and I'm sure I sometimes come across as having a negative opinion of Boyd -- but I've seen her since she played for Hercules, and she's one of the best point guards ever to come out of Northern California.

So after the win over Nevada, LG talked about her "ten-man rotation" and how everyone can help.

In truth, the Bears have six players who seem capable of winning the Pac-12 and getting them to the Elite Eight. So job one is to keep those six healthy; job two would be to see if Davidson can develop into a seventh player -- the issue with her would seem to be defense. She doesn't look like a top-shelf interior defender but if she improves on that end, she appears to have the skills to contribute.

When they show the 5-20, does that include the 0-4 on threes?

ClayK, here's a Hawai'i fan's opinion on Davidson that pretty much coincides with yours: "Penina Davidson played 11 mins and had 3 rebounds and one assist. I wasn't impressed with her defense, she seemed lost at times and was very weak on the boards. I have no doubt she will be coached up and become a complete player by her senior season but right now she doesn't look ready for prime time." His interest in Davidson is because Hawai'i had a MBB player named Isaac Fotu from New Zealand who left school this season to go to the pros in Europe.

SRBear;842409321 said:

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When they show the 5-20, does that include the 0-4 on threes?

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Yes, the Total FG/FGA column includes 3-pointers.

http://www.calbears.com/pdf9/2999617.pdf

Please remember the lousy start Range had last year. Perhaps we should have written her off after 4 games as a non-contributor. Ya think?

Davidson showed at the end of the Hawaii game that she can be counted on to hold her own. She defended, rebounded, and made good choices during a hectic time. I am excited to see her progress as the season continues.

Continued..Maybe I am being soft on her because she is a freshman but I thought she did what she needed to do... She doesn't need to be great or even that good. If she can come in and not melt down on the road in a close game than I am happy. We are only 4 games Into the season!!

CalFanatic;842409559 said:

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Continued..... She doesn't need to be great or even that good. If she can come in and not melt down on the road in a close game than I am happy. We are only 4 games Into the season!!

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Agree with that! Hopefully, a combination of Hartman, Davidson, and Waters can provide sufficient minutes of rest for Reshanda or when she's in foul trouble.

I think Penina is going to be fine - would like to see her take more 3 point shots.

Brittany Boyd is a solid player and if the goal was to win a mid major conference then her play could be acceptable. To shoot 50 % from the free throw line and then continue to shoot
20 shots off the first or second pass sometimes a off the dribble is fairly questionable. Cowlings shot a way higher percentage and only shot 7 times. I'm a bit tough because she is a Senior and should be leading the way in providing opportunities for her teammates. Until Gray proved should could stay out of foul trouble I probably would start Cowlings and maybe that would lead to some brainstorming on how not to foul. Hopefully we will see a true commitment to defense before conference play. Unacceptable for a team with high d 1 athletes to not be able to contain on the ball. The foul trouble can be attributed a lot of times to poor on the ball D or unsound closeouts. Even in zones, you can't allow direct passes, you have to contain the ball and force over the top passing which allows the players away from the ball to move in proper position. If you aren't sound in base man D principles then you are going to get picked apart when you play zone. Having great athletes isn't a luxury if you are not completely sound then the players are great because they are great athletes. Soooo much potential, hopefully they get back to the basics and work on just being sound defensively anthen offensively the game will work itself out. Basketball karma, commit on the defensive end and don't take the small things for granted.

Calfans;842408396 said:

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http://www.mutigers.com/collegesportslive/?media=471132

6:30 pm PT

:Lindsay

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Great game, thanks for sharing!

Grainger2874;842409747 said:

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Brittany Boyd is a solid player and if the goal was to win a mid major conference then her play could be acceptable..

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just guessing, you're gonna do great here.

#tough love not my thing.

Sounds like a lot of Hate to me. Maybe these girls are doing something you wish your daughters were doing. Remember let's build these young ladies up and not tear them down, yes this is a board to express you opinions but what read on here is a lot of hating and bashing certain players. I have always and will always cheer these girls on no matter how bad they play.

I was going to be quite but this has got to stop.

#GoBears #DoOneMore

Cali Bear;842409839 said:

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Sounds like a lot of Hate to me. Maybe these girls are doing something you wish your daughters were doing. Remember let's build these young ladies up and not tear them down, yes this is a board to express you opinions but what read on here is a lot of hating and bashing certain players. I have always and will always cheer these girls on no matter how bad they play.

I was going to be quite but this has got to stop.

#GoBears #DoOneMore

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I agree that the first post was a bit much but I don't agree with this. Boyd has been described in this thread as "the best PG to come out of Northern California".. "Having an all-american stat line"... " Top Ten Draft Pick". She also has been questioned for taking 20 shots and not making the best of choices. Davidson- some have said she isn't ready for the spotlight while I mentioned I thought she had poise and made good choices during the end of the game.

This is a top 25 program that is in the national spot light. People can have their own opinions. If you think this is remotely bad go to Boneyard. This is PG.

Cali Bear;842409839 said:

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Sounds like a lot of Hate to me.

I was going to be quite but this has got to stop.

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+1

You can suggest areas of improvement without getting nasty.

I am a bit tough, I have an old school approach. I just see the skies the limit for this team and the potential. Being critical and trying to understand how you can improve in order to attain a level of success is not hate. I like the direction the program is headed and I'll be the first to acknowledge when strides are being made. Can be frustrating to watch when you know they are capable of much more.

Here's a better report on another site from a Cal alum who with his family was on the same flight to Hawaii on Sunday where they'll be having a reunion with his parents and other siblings. His dad was a well-known high school basketball coach in Hawai'i:

"I was at the game in Hawaii. Boyd was spectacular despite an off night shooting. She controlled the tempo, pushed the ball, created opportunities, made brilliant passes to Gray and others including Cowling who is a smooth 3 point shooter but also slashes to the basket. I really think she had more than 6 steals but if they say she caused 10 turnovers it's all right with me.

One problem we had in asserting our physical dominance is that collisions with the less athletic Missouri Tigers were alway deemed a Cal foul. That was true for incidental contact and even when Missouri Tigers ran into our women and fell on the floor (Reshanda Gray's 4th foul). I think that made us tentative on the boards.

But overall, Gray was just dominant in the paint and Boyd was superb in running the floor at both ends. Sitting behind the bench, I was impressed with how the coaching staff kept cool and focused and made adjustments when needed."