Spencer steps down as Cal Softball coach.

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The softball program has never had the required facilities to host a postseason NCAA regional. The Bears have had to travel cross-country to play at a SEC power's home field. Two out of the last three seasons, Chelsea Spencer has taken her team to the Oklahoma Regional for a double-elimination format for four teams. The Sooners were ranked #1 and #2 in the nation on those two occasions. The softball program has deserved better facilities ever since they won the national championship.

I know your rugby program has just endowed itself. But I don't think that you should berate the softball program which has lots of diehard fans. They have never been able to play night games or host post season tournament play in Berkeley. They have been waiting patiently to get these facilities built and improved for year and years.
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Where in the world did you come up with my intent being to "berate the softball program"???????

I'm well aware of the problem with facilities. What I don't get is how with things looking brighter and some good players on the roster, how does Cal screw this up and lose a coach that, from what I could see, was putting something good together?

Your post didn't help explain the problem to me. It explained the (obvious) need for a new stadium. But it didn't address whatever issues there were that led to the resignation.

Now, where do you see me "berating" the program?
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TomBear said:

Where in the world did you come up with my intent being to "berate the softball program"???????

I'm well aware of the problem with facilities. What I don't get is how with things looking brighter and some good players on the roster, how does Cal screw this up and lose a coach that, from what I could see, was putting something good together?

Your post didn't help explain the problem to me. It explained the (obvious) need for a new stadium. But it didn't address whatever issues there were that led to the resignation.

Now, where do you see me "berating" the program?

I believe it was your comment about a "plastic field in the entire stadium". I'm sure that was done because of Bay Area weather conditions in the winter.

Ask Oregon State baseball about their "all-plastic field" in their stadium. It got them to the College World Series.
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I'm totally over hiring unproven assistant coaches to pinch pennies by the athletic departement. Coach Spencer looked solid on paper, but we all saw the obvious inadequacies from being young and inexperiencedlike sending runners out to get thrown out stealing, making aggressive plays at the worst times, not keeping the team chemistry vibes right, not knowing how to keep fans happy, overall questionable decision making skills when it comes to the program and dealing with other off-field drama. I think bringing in an older, more experienced head coach with a stable family setup would really turn things around for the program.

Seriously, it's time for CAL to step up, invest some real cash, and snag a proven head coach.

I dont know but I am very optimistic about our softball future. Perhaps I am an optimist.
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Oregon State got the the CWS because of their "all plastic field"??????? Are you NUTS???????

They got there despite their plastic field. They had a very good team that played well, hit the ball at critical times, and had a solid coach.

And again, how does my comment about Cal's field suggest I'm dissing the program?

Are you going to argue that the weather conditions in the Bay Area are so bad they need a rug? Talk to the athletes in Chicago, Green Bay, and most of MLB. There is a reason why the NFL-PA is lobbying for all grass fields, why Seattle has just installed a natural grass surface at their stadium, and why so much of Europe (with far worse weather than Berkeley) is moving away from plastic.

I'm not attacking you personally but your premise on what I wrote is absurd!
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Cal has too many sports
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TomBear said:


Oregon State got the the CWS because of their "all plastic field"??????? Are you NUTS???????

They got there despite their plastic field. They had a very good team that played well, hit the ball at critical times, and had a solid coach.

And again, how does my comment about Cal's field suggest I'm dissing the program?

Are you going to argue that the weather conditions in the Bay Area are so bad they need a rug? Talk to the athletes in Chicago, Green Bay, and most of MLB. There is a reason why the NFL-PA is lobbying for all grass fields, why Seattle has just installed a natural grass surface at their stadium, and why so much of Europe (with far worse weather than Berkeley) is moving away from plastic.

I'm not attacking you personally but your premise on what I wrote is absurd!
I'm sorry I got involved in your "debate" with S71.

Won't ever do it again. Too much drama.

Doctors say your blood pressure skyrockets with an overuse of question marks.
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AstroTurf or not it's still a good looking stadium and we can now host regionals. We just need to get by this one bad year playing on the road and I'm quite sure after that will be attracting recruits like a bee to honey. 2027 here we come!!!!
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BearinOC said:

I'm totally over hiring unproven assistant coaches to pinch pennies by the athletic departement. Coach Spencer looked solid on paper, but we all saw the obvious inadequacies from being young and inexperiencedlike sending runners out to get thrown out stealing, making aggressive plays at the worst times, not keeping the team chemistry vibes right, not knowing how to keep fans happy, overall questionable decision making skills when it comes to the program and dealing with other off-field drama. I think bringing in an older, more experienced head coach with a stable family setup would really turn things around for the program.

Seriously, it's time for CAL to step up, invest some real cash, and snag a proven head coach.

I dont know but I am very optimistic about our softball future. Perhaps I am an optimist.
+1,000,000. The Bay Area will never lack softball talent, we've got a plethora of top travel teams in the area to do so from.... a new stadium... AD can't F this up.

Worried we will go after someone young like a Tori Tyson to save money. Great player and coach but wrong for our needs.
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CalFanatic said:

BearinOC said:

I'm totally over hiring unproven assistant coaches to pinch pennies by the athletic departement. Coach Spencer looked solid on paper, but we all saw the obvious inadequacies from being young and inexperiencedlike sending runners out to get thrown out stealing, making aggressive plays at the worst times, not keeping the team chemistry vibes right, not knowing how to keep fans happy, overall questionable decision making skills when it comes to the program and dealing with other off-field drama. I think bringing in an older, more experienced head coach with a stable family setup would really turn things around for the program.

Seriously, it's time for CAL to step up, invest some real cash, and snag a proven head coach.

I dont know but I am very optimistic about our softball future. Perhaps I am an optimist.
+1,000,000. The Bay Area will never lack softball talent, we've got a plethora of top travel teams in the area to do so from.... a new stadium... AD can't F this up.

Worried we will go after someone young like a Tori Tyson to save money. Great player and coach but wrong for our needs.
Good lord. I dont know how to feel about this one. This would be an intriguing choice. Again, not a proven winning HC. I feel like we would be falling back into the looks good on paper problem.

Here is why it is intriguing. She is the daughter to Marty Tyson of the Corona Angels. Aside from the yeller and a screamer that Marty is, the family is kind of a softball royalty. Over 50% of her players are from California; pipeline anyone? Their players can flat out play.

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For those interested in reading about Tori Tyson: here is her Howard bio: Tori Tyson - Softball Coach - Howard University Athletics
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BearinOC said:

CalFanatic said:

BearinOC said:

I'm totally over hiring unproven assistant coaches to pinch pennies by the athletic departement. Coach Spencer looked solid on paper, but we all saw the obvious inadequacies from being young and inexperiencedlike sending runners out to get thrown out stealing, making aggressive plays at the worst times, not keeping the team chemistry vibes right, not knowing how to keep fans happy, overall questionable decision making skills when it comes to the program and dealing with other off-field drama. I think bringing in an older, more experienced head coach with a stable family setup would really turn things around for the program.

Seriously, it's time for CAL to step up, invest some real cash, and snag a proven head coach.

I dont know but I am very optimistic about our softball future. Perhaps I am an optimist.
+1,000,000. The Bay Area will never lack softball talent, we've got a plethora of top travel teams in the area to do so from.... a new stadium... AD can't F this up.

Worried we will go after someone young like a Tori Tyson to save money. Great player and coach but wrong for our needs.
Good lord. I dont know how to feel about this one. This would be an intriguing choice. Again, not a proven winning HC. I feel like we would be falling back into the looks good on paper problem.

Here is why it is intriguing. She is the daughter to Marty Tyson of the Corona Angels. Aside from the yeller and a screamer that Marty is, the family is kind of a softball royalty. Over 50% of her players are from California; pipeline anyone? Their players can flat out play.


Valid point- we've probably had a hundred kids from that program wear a Cal uniform. The earliest I can recall are Brittany LaRosa and Christina Schallig, up to the transfer we just signed. That's a lot of talent..
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Sorry SF.......I was writing while trying to multi-task (involved with work) and because of work I think some frustration set in with my writing.

I seldom do multiple question marks. But I think doctor's may be right

BTW, I just read this morning that Nebraska is now going back to natural grass for their football stadium this year as well.
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D1 softball.com sez Stacey Nuvemann-Deniz (SDSU) and Gina Carbonatto (SCU) are front runners for the Cal job. The latter has done a great job turning around a program that had losing season's for many years in a row.




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Ccajon2 said:

D1 softball.com sez Stacey Nuvemann-Deniz (SDSU) and Gina Carbanotto (SCU) are front runners for the Cal job. The latter has done a great job turning around a program that had losing years for many years in a row.





This seems like a no brainer. Stacey Nuvemann-Deniz (SDSU) would be a better choice and the geography of San Diego to the SO CAL hotbed is 50-100 miles away. She would be familiar with all the recruits in this area.
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BearinOC said:

Ccajon2 said:

D1 softball.com sez Stacey Nuvemann-Deniz (SDSU) and Gina Carbanotto (SCU) are front runners for the Cal job. The latter has done a great job turning around a program that had losing years for many





This seems like a no brainer. Stacey Nuvemann-Deniz (SDSU) would be a better choice and the geography of San Diego to the SO CAL hotbed is 50-100 miles away. She would be familiar with all the recruits in this area.


Absolutely especially if she brings her Ace pitcher with her: Cece Cellura 19-9 2.25 ERA

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SND would be a fantastic hire. Really hoping we can close the deal.
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LONG post so I apologize in advance. Long time lurker on the BI boards but new to posting about softball. I've thought long and hard about what I would say because I have close ties to the program in a few different ways - I help coach in the Corona Angels organization (so I know Marty Tyson and his players as well as Tori Tyson very well) and a daughter that played softball at Cal. I'm Cal alum so I have a decent understanding of Cal as a whole and, through my daughter, the unique challenges the university presents to student-athletes. I'm trying to not come off as a disgruntled parent my daughter played quite a bit. I merely want to try to provide some additional thoughts and context on what's going on with the softball program.

To make it relevant to this thread, as it relates to Coach Spencer stepping down, I suspect that some of you may have heard rumblings of what was going on (CF, BearinOC and others). Without saying too much, there were absolutely some things going on within the team that should not be which, quite frankly IMHO, deserved and necessitated a change in head coach. I think that there were issues at all levels from coaches to even players to some extent.

Coach Spencer was a great player enthusiastic, aggressive, confident (to the point of arrogant), and with a swagger. She coached like she played IMO. That includes perhaps sending runners when maybe she shouldn't have. But I would rather that than someone who is too conversative and doesn't take any risks. I agree that there are times to take risks and there are times to not and I think that's what Coach Spencer was still learning. You may not believe it, but she did tone it down a little this last year (but I don't have data to back me up on it). Some of the running errors were on the players (missed signs, mental errors, etc)… However, while I was hopeful, it appears that she was still not quite ready for a head coaching position at a place like Cal as much as I wanted her to be. BTW, Coach Spencer wasn't the only issue as it relates to the coaches.

For who would replace her, there are a lot of great talented coaches out there. I know I'm biased, but Tori is a great coach cut from similar cloth as her dad. She knows the game well, understands how to build culture (as she did at Howard), and gets the most of her players. I'm not sure if she would be interested quite frankly, but who knows. Similarly, I'm not sure if Stacey Nuveman-Deniz would be interested either. It's my understanding that her husband works in the SD area and that's partly why she has been at SDSU for so long. But, if she's interested, she would be great! BTW, @ccajon2, Cellura signed with LSU already she had been in the portal. Gina Carbanotto would be interesting as mentioned, she's helped turn around the Santa Clara program. Agree with BearinOC that it would be highly unlikely that Courtney Deifel would leave Arkansas for Cal. And without saying much more, I would not try to get Telesco… Regardless, the next coach should hopefully be someone with decent Cal or at least Bay Area ties (for longevity), who can recruit and is aggressive (at least on offense to put pressure on the defense). I would posit that while it would be good to get a name like Valerie Arioto, just being a great player doesn't necessarily translate to being a great or even a good coach. Still possible but not an automatic… I leave it to others to suggest other possible candidates.

For our players who left, most, if not all were a result of the aforementioned chaos. Most were leaving to get away from the chaos. Others who left contributed to it. Just in case it wasn't known, Ashanti McDade is going to Univ of Louisiana Monroe, Lagi Quiroga to Texas Tech, Miranda De Nava to Cal Baptist University, Tianna Bell to Arkansas (joined by her travel ball teammate Dakota Kennedy), Elon Butler to Oregon, Anna Reimers to Utah (as grad transfer), Holly Medina to Georgia Tech, Kaylee Pond to ASU and Nailyn Marshall to Iowa (presumably following the former Fresno State coach). Also, unfortunately, with the coaching change, the portal opens up for our players again - I'm hearing as-of-now unsubstantiated rumors of a few other players now entering...

As for recruiting softball players, I would caution those here on this board to lean too much into high school numbers and stats. I tend to see many posts of how recruits did in HS ball. They are fun to look at (and, often, the only stats readily available), but, in the end, they rarely mean much and often do not translate well to the college game. Instead, I would encourage folks to see how the players do against the top organizations/teams. OR how they do against HS players going to the top colleges. So what if someone can go 4-4 with 4 HRs against a team ? How did they do against the top teams like Batbusters Stith or Texas Bombers? That will give you a better indicator of chances for success at the collegiate level. I know I'm biased here, but there's a reason that so many former Corona Angels players (most recently Mika Lee, Elon Butler, Alyssa Herrera, Candace Yingling, Amani Bradley, Jazmyn Jackson, Kylie Reed, Khala Taylor, Alleah Laxamana, and many others like Brittany LaRosa) do well in college even All-Americans. They're used to being on teams with big rosters (many travel ball teams carry 13-15 ensuring that everyone plays no matter what Marty carries 20-25 playing time is earned like it is in college). The common trait they have is that they all know how to compete against the top teams as well as within the team to get in the starting lineup. They also know how to grind. And they know the game so well because that's what Marty Tyson teaches them! And there are many great travel ball organizations out there from Bay Area: Sorcerers, Warriors Academy, Lady Magic, Cal Nuggets. Others like Batbusters (specifically Stith, Maroon, Gomes), Firecrackers Rico/Brashear and many others around the country.

But it's such a different game now with NIL. You'd like for players to stay out of loyalty. However, if you were 18-22 years old and given the opportunity to make 5- or 6- (or very rarely 7-) digit sums of money, it would be VERY hard to pass up since there is not much money to be made in professional softball (yet hopefully). This is potentially life-altering money! And, with some of the roster limits coming up (although, it doesn't, in general, affect softball programs that much), I know that some teams will ask players to leave the program to make roster space not so with Cal (at least not recently). I hate what's currently going on with the transfer portal but I understand it with the rules that they are and the money that can be made. I don't know what, but something should change. Student-athletes are essentially entering free agency every year potentially. IMO, there's something fishy going on at Texas Tech for example with all of their signees, but that's a different post potentially…

I remain hopeful for reasons that have been mentioned new stadium, location, Cal degree. However, unfortunately, many HS (and even some college) athletes and parents do not see it that way… Prior to Coach Spencer stepping down, I would have hesitated recommending players go to Cal (and that just kills me as an alum). Now, there's hope with a fresh start… Go Bears!!
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CAGB3 said:

LONG post so I apologize in advance. Long time lurker on the BI boards but new to posting about softball. I've thought long and hard about what I would say because I have close ties to the program in a few different ways - I help coach in the Corona Angels organization (so I know Marty Tyson and his players as well as Tori Tyson very well) and a daughter that played softball at Cal. I'm Cal alum so I have a decent understanding of Cal as a whole and, through my daughter, the unique challenges the university presents to student-athletes. I'm trying to not come off as a disgruntled parent my daughter played quite a bit. I merely want to try to provide some additional thoughts and context on what's going on with the softball program.

To make it relevant to this thread, as it relates to Coach Spencer stepping down, I suspect that some of you may have heard rumblings of what was going on (CF, BearinOC and others). Without saying too much, there were absolutely some things going on within the team that should not be which, quite frankly IMHO, deserved and necessitated a change in head coach. I think that there were issues at all levels from coaches to even players to some extent.

Coach Spencer was a great player enthusiastic, aggressive, confident (to the point of arrogant), and with a swagger. She coached like she played IMO. That includes perhaps sending runners when maybe she shouldn't have. But I would rather that than someone who is too conversative and doesn't take any risks. I agree that there are times to take risks and there are times to not and I think that's what Coach Spencer was still learning. You may not believe it, but she did tone it down a little this last year (but I don't have data to back me up on it). Some of the running errors were on the players (missed signs, mental errors, etc)… However, while I was hopeful, it appears that she was still not quite ready for a head coaching position at a place like Cal as much as I wanted her to be. BTW, Coach Spencer wasn't the only issue as it relates to the coaches.

For who would replace her, there are a lot of great talented coaches out there. I know I'm biased, but Tori is a great coach cut from similar cloth as her dad. She knows the game well, understands how to build culture (as she did at Howard), and gets the most of her players. I'm not sure if she would be interested quite frankly, but who knows. Similarly, I'm not sure if Stacey Nuveman-Deniz would be interested either. It's my understanding that her husband works in the SD area and that's partly why she has been at SDSU for so long. But, if she's interested, she would be great! BTW, @ccajon2, Cellura signed with LSU already she had been in the portal. Gina Carbanotto would be interesting as mentioned, she's helped turn around the Santa Clara program. Agree with BearinOC that it would be highly unlikely that Courtney Deifel would leave Arkansas for Cal. And without saying much more, I would not try to get Telesco… Regardless, the next coach should hopefully be someone with decent Cal or at least Bay Area ties (for longevity), who can recruit and is aggressive (at least on offense to put pressure on the defense). I would posit that while it would be good to get a name like Valerie Arioto, just being a great player doesn't necessarily translate to being a great or even a good coach. Still possible but not an automatic… I leave it to others to suggest other possible candidates.

For our players who left, most, if not all were a result of the aforementioned chaos. Most were leaving to get away from the chaos. Others who left contributed to it. Just in case it wasn't known, Ashanti McDade is going to Univ of Louisiana Monroe, Lagi Quiroga to Texas Tech, Miranda De Nava to Cal Baptist University, Tianna Bell to Arkansas (joined by her travel ball teammate Dakota Kennedy), Elon Butler to Oregon, Anna Reimers to Utah (as grad transfer), Holly Medina to Georgia Tech, Kaylee Pond to ASU and Nailyn Marshall to Iowa (presumably following the former Fresno State coach). Also, unfortunately, with the coaching change, the portal opens up for our players again - I'm hearing as-of-now unsubstantiated rumors of a few other players now entering...

As for recruiting softball players, I would caution those here on this board to lean too much into high school numbers and stats. I tend to see many posts of how recruits did in HS ball. They are fun to look at (and, often, the only stats readily available), but, in the end, they rarely mean much and often do not translate well to the college game. Instead, I would encourage folks to see how the players do against the top organizations/teams. OR how they do against HS players going to the top colleges. So what if someone can go 4-4 with 4 HRs against a team ? How did they do against the top teams like Batbusters Stith or Texas Bombers? That will give you a better indicator of chances for success at the collegiate level. I know I'm biased here, but there's a reason that so many former Corona Angels players (most recently Mika Lee, Elon Butler, Alyssa Herrera, Candace Yingling, Amani Bradley, Jazmyn Jackson, Kylie Reed, Khala Taylor, Alleah Laxamana, and many others like Brittany LaRosa) do well in college even All-Americans. They're used to being on teams with big rosters (many travel ball teams carry 13-15 ensuring that everyone plays no matter what Marty carries 20-25 playing time is earned like it is in college). The common trait they have is that they all know how to compete against the top teams as well as within the team to get in the starting lineup. They also know how to grind. And they know the game so well because that's what Marty Tyson teaches them! And there are many great travel ball organizations out there from Bay Area: Sorcerers, Warriors Academy, Lady Magic, Cal Nuggets. Others like Batbusters (specifically Stith, Maroon, Gomes), Firecrackers Rico/Brashear and many others around the country.

But it's such a different game now with NIL. You'd like for players to stay out of loyalty. However, if you were 18-22 years old and given the opportunity to make 5- or 6- (or very rarely 7-) digit sums of money, it would be VERY hard to pass up since there is not much money to be made in professional softball (yet hopefully). This is potentially life-altering money! And, with some of the roster limits coming up (although, it doesn't, in general, affect softball programs that much), I know that some teams will ask players to leave the program to make roster space not so with Cal (at least not recently). I hate what's currently going on with the transfer portal but I understand it with the rules that they are and the money that can be made. I don't know what, but something should change. Student-athletes are essentially entering free agency every year potentially. IMO, there's something fishy going on at Texas Tech for example with all of their signees, but that's a different post potentially…

I remain hopeful for reasons that have been mentioned new stadium, location, Cal degree. However, unfortunately, many HS (and even some college) athletes and parents do not see it that way… Prior to Coach Spencer stepping down, I would have hesitated recommending players go to Cal (and that just kills me as an alum). Now, there's hope with a fresh start… Go Bears!!
I agree 100% on trying to use HS stats as a determining factor for college performance. Club softball is so much more competitive it is really almost 2 different sports. My son played college soccer and he viewed HS soccer as just for fun. Club travel programs are where you find out if you can play or not.

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CAGB3, thanks for you very insightful post

you instantly jump to the top of heap in terms of providing realistic, insightful, knowledgable info into D1 college softball

I hope you stick around and post more
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HoopDreams said:

CAGB3, thanks for you very insightful post

you instantly jump to the top of heap in terms of providing realistic, insightful, knowledgable info into D1 college softball

I hope you stick around and post more
Same. I appreciate your measured thoughts and insight. Easy to realize I don't know much lol. Thanks for deciding to share.

Please feel well received.


Oh one added thought not related to the above comments. If there are public podcasts and other sources for information about why Spencer (and certain players) left, why is all of this being treated like some clandestine mission to hide the information? If it's public, it's public. And it sounds like it's public.
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@Hoop and @HOTB,

Thank you for those words. I will definitely try to post more when I can and have something to offer. I often feel that I can't add much so I stay off lol...

@6596bear, agree 100% For many (certainly in softball and soccer), high school is often seen as a respite from the grind of club/travelball teams. They can try different/new positions that they wouldn't get to in club/travelball teams.

As for why Coach Spencer stepped down, I have to admit that I've not seen the reason disclosed publicly. Because of that, I don't want to throw anything out there because I don't necessarily have all of the facts. But, what is known and understood by me, it's not pretty... I tried looking for those podcasts that was referred to but couldn't find it... If someone happens to have it, would appreciate a link(s) if possible.
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Mia Phillips is now in the transfer portal. Every starter is now gone.
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I feel like it's fair to say this part since it was public, but one of the coaches posted a slew of text messages from former players after what seemed like a split between Coach Spencer and that coach--it was very odd, to say the least. That coach abruptly departed from the staff and online roster maybe a day later...

Unsure about this podcast... I've looked at all the major softball podcasts on spotify and apple music. I've found nothing.
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With that said…on to the future. A brand new stadium, a new coach can come in and bring stability, we've got some great recruits (if we can keep them).

All is not lost. If some cards fall our way with keeping the recruits together I'd say just the opposite. I'm optimistic once the dust settles.
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CalFanatic said:

With that said…on to the future. A brand new stadium, a new coach can come in and bring stability, we've got some great recruits (if we can keep them).

All is not lost. If some cards fall our way with keeping the recruits together I'd say just the opposite. I'm optimistic once the dust settles.
UW suffered a cataclysmic portal avalanche and was able to regroup and produce a season of respectable results but they had retained their almost certain to be HOF coach and had a super frosh power hitter to lay the foundation.Cal is likely to be trying a rebuild with an unknown running the show and no home. field. Helluva challenge!
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It's been a week already but no new coach. If the Bears landed a decent one, it could stabilize things. The two starting sophs were the last two to jump ship because they were the only starters left on the team. They might be salvagable if someone reputable is running the show. It might also help keep the classes of 2025 (5) and the class of 2026 (7) intact. Any rumors of visiting candidates that are being considered?
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My take on this is the the AD did not have a lot of warning on this decision. If I am correct, it will take another week or so to lock down the next coach.
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Polodad said:

My take on this is the the AD did not have a lot of warning on this decision. If I am correct, it will take another week or so to lock down the next coach.
Cal plays in one of the top 2 softball conferences in the nation along with the SEC. They are building a new facility. They have been in the past 3 NCAA tournaments. They play in a state where good players literally fall out of the sky. They have a strong prior history. This opening should be in demand for an up and comer. Either a major assistant at a high performing program or a HC from a mid major with some recent good history.

if the job is not considered a good one then that is on the now departed AD and his replacements. You can win here. And the right HC matters. This is not Oklahoma or UCLA but it is a good opportunity.

I hope they find a good replacement. Reading this thread makes me think internal team dynamics were a concern. And not handled well. Then the wheels came off.

Cal just made a big commitment to softball with the new facility being built. No reason they cannot find a good replacement for Spencer. Oh wait, yes there is. Cal's poor leadership and incompetence.
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In effect, Lyons is the Acting AD. JSO will have to run every key decision by him until he settles on the structure he wants and the leader he wants in place. Cal has made a huge commitment to softball and that should be a selling point in attracting a candidate who can right the ship in short order.
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Polodad said:

My take on this is the the AD did not have a lot of warning on this decision. If I am correct, it will take another week or so to lock down the next coach.


He had plenty of time. From Mary Nutter to the blowup at the Virginia game.

I hope we take the time for the right coach to come along for the long haul; not for the new recruits.
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BearinOC said:

Polodad said:

My take on this is the the AD did not have a lot of warning on this decision. If I am correct, it will take another week or so to lock down the next coach.


He had plenty of time. From Mary Nutter to the blowup at the Virginia game.

I hope we take the time for the right coach to come along for the long haul; not for the new recruits.



Yes, it's good to take our time to get the right coach but wait are our new recruits thinking? All this uncertainty is probsbly making it more difficult fir the recruit..to stay or not.
OBear073akaSMFan
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Any updates or rumors on the head coach. Season starts in less than 2 months! Is too late for our incoming freshman to transfer?
Schroeder71
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Three weeks have passed with no softball HC and counting...This is the longest that I can recall a major program going without someone at the helm. What's up?
Ccajon2
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A a buddy on Clemson board said that Cal has asked the ACC to cancel their softball season for next year. And yeah I said huh? There's only 12 players on the roster. They have no home field. And the players they recruited for 2026 I believe have all transferred. How can they compete with only 12 players on the roster.?


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